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Hello folks, so just recently stumbled upon an article about an upcoming ICO which is trying to get itself regulated. Does it give a greater appeal to you as an investor? Maybe this should become a norm and ICOs should seek to get reasonably regulated themselves? Want to know your opinion on that.
You can read the article here: https://thebitcoinnews.com/moirai-prediction-market-become-one-first-regulated-icos/
You can read the article here: https://thebitcoinnews.com/moirai-prediction-market-become-one-first-regulated-icos/
Re: [ANN] [Pre-ICO October 28th] MOIRAI - Decentralised Prediction Market | MVP
Really interesting project. This should def get more attention. I already tried their mvp and its looking really nice. Will be joining bounty
Re: [ANN] [PRE-ICO 12th October] 🔶 Exxor - Next Generation IOT 🔶
Can't wait till the sale starts. Just followed you on twitter and joined telegram. Will be investing as soon as its open
We appreciate your support. Please be aware that we will be temporarily turning off our telegram channel in order to protect our investors.
Stay tuned for more updates moving closer to start time.
I like that you are trying to protect your investors. Are there any other security measures? Safety of funds?
The project has big potential and really like your aggressive business approach. I might as well chip in for a few btc, just in case this turns out to be a successful product and I can make some decent profit as I did with IOTA. Good luck
Re: [ANN] [PRE-ICO 12th October] 🔶 Exxor - Next Generation IOT 🔶
People here can tell the difference between IoT and IOTA, they think its the same thing 
A bit sad. That's why I understand the frustration this project causes for some people. There are business already out there, who would be more than happy to implement IoT solutions even on a small scale, but there aren't many choices atm. IOTA promises a lot, but they will take another 2-3 years to do develop. I would actually love to see more similar projects focusing on IoT, AI, etc. , not some useless coins which is going to be obsolete when blockchain and crypto becomes loses its relevance in a few years
A bit sad. That's why I understand the frustration this project causes for some people. There are business already out there, who would be more than happy to implement IoT solutions even on a small scale, but there aren't many choices atm. IOTA promises a lot, but they will take another 2-3 years to do develop. I would actually love to see more similar projects focusing on IoT, AI, etc. , not some useless coins which is going to be obsolete when blockchain and crypto becomes loses its relevance in a few yearsI got a refund but only 6 months and asking for it about 250 times.
Worst consumer experience ever.
Go to woodlaw - fill out their form and take the mother fucker ken to court and get him into prison where he can't cause any more shit ever again.
Worst consumer experience ever.
Go to woodlaw - fill out their form and take the mother fucker ken to court and get him into prison where he can't cause any more shit ever again.
They are giving out refunds now. Just fill out the form you were mailed and send it back to them... Albeit Bitcoin at current exchange rate... He's not a con artist just a fumbling fuckwit. No excuse though. He is breaking the law. Be persistent
Re: [Guide] Dogie's Comprehensive Manufacturer Trustworthiness Guide
VMC -
They have refunded on average one customer per week since the start of this year.
I had been given bankers check from VMC BOA #123 in feb and another check numbered #138 last week.
138-123 = just 15 Refunds in 4 months - just under one a week.
I am one of the lucky ones but there is an army of people still waiting for theirs.
If it takes one week to do one refund then there's something wrong.
Either they are deliberately keeping the money or have no money.
on the plus side, they are throwing boards and hashfast chips out of the door cheap.. but no one trusts them to deliver.
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Offered and honoured refunds from the start.
They have refunded on average one customer per week since the start of this year.
I had been given bankers check from VMC BOA #123 in feb and another check numbered #138 last week.
138-123 = just 15 Refunds in 4 months - just under one a week.
I am one of the lucky ones but there is an army of people still waiting for theirs.
If it takes one week to do one refund then there's something wrong.
Either they are deliberately keeping the money or have no money.
on the plus side, they are throwing boards and hashfast chips out of the door cheap.. but no one trusts them to deliver.
another Refund:
@danielbrogren "Im also still waiting for my refund. The product ordered is one platinum 768GH
2014-02-10 08:13:40 Refund
2013-12-02 16:38:23 Payment accepted
2013-11-21 22:32:12 Awaiting bank wire payment
2013-11-21 22:32:12 Pre-Ordered"
@danielbrogren "Im also still waiting for my refund. The product ordered is one platinum 768GH
2014-02-10 08:13:40 Refund
2013-12-02 16:38:23 Payment accepted
2013-11-21 22:32:12 Awaiting bank wire payment
2013-11-21 22:32:12 Pre-Ordered"
I ordered 2x Fast-Hash One Platinum Edition Bitcoin Mining Machine - 256 GH/s Expansion Modules : No 256GH/s Expansion Modules, Fast-Hash Expansion Case : No Expansion Case, Fast-Hash ONE Platinum 256 GH/s Module : 1.536TH-1,400 Watts on 2013-09-17 @ VMC (order reference JTICURDUZ) for $18,079.20.
I asked multiple times for refund as they are completely unable to deliever.
I didn't receive my money back. Will give them one week, then it's up to the police.
I asked multiple times for refund as they are completely unable to deliever.
I didn't receive my money back. Will give them one week, then it's up to the police.
Class action towards VMC here: http://www.woodlaw.com/cases/virtual-mining-corporation-and-active-mining-corporation
another refund added just now
@btcricon - 256 GH/s Module : 1.536TH-1,400 Watts on 2013-09-17 @ VMC (order reference JTICURDUZ) for $18,079.20. I asked multiple times for refund as they are completely unable to deliever. I didn't receive my money back. Will give them one week, then it's up to the police.
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@btcricon - 256 GH/s Module : 1.536TH-1,400 Watts on 2013-09-17 @ VMC (order reference JTICURDUZ) for $18,079.20. I asked multiple times for refund as they are completely unable to deliever. I didn't receive my money back. Will give them one week, then it's up to the police.
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Update [May 9 2014]
Of the 31 known Prospector boards ordered from VMC:
15 Delivered are dead on arrival - still waiting for replacement - (computerjesus/ Kodemadge)
4 delivered and working. (2 to bargraphics & 2 to 'unknown user')
5 Delivered - waited 30 days - all confirmed working (emjay47)
6 ordered by rogerli9 (ordered 2014-04-11) delivered 25 days late
1 orderd by VinceSaimos - took 5 weeks to arrive - working ok.
Refunds:
@Magzy- 2nd Refund check arrived - awaiting clearance at bank.
@metalchain - Still waiting - I sent PM to Ken many times. He always reply to me "We will ~~, ASAP~~~, Quickly~~~, next week~~~"
@cryptoconomist- still waiting - "Two weeks ago on a Friday I spoke to him again and he literally promised me he was going to ship my order on the following Monday, but haven't heard from him. Since then, when I log into my account, my initial order has now been moved to "refund" status and my new order to "cancelled" which contradicts what Ken and I discussed. I wrote so many emails to him and to the Active Mining threads but my posts keep getting deleted"
@meccaflare0 - still waiting "ken owes me like $x"
@greek_hephaestus - unknown -"Thank you very much Magzy for your suggestion . I will do it in a few days. [contact the AG] First I send one more message to VMC. Thank's again."
@coindesk - http://www.coindesk.com/mining-hardware-companies-miners-roundup/
@lenart_o - I'm waiting for refund [of $10k] since february this year there is no chance to get back my money?? I'm from Poland and I don't have idea how to get back my money . I was stupid and I was belive in company with no proof now I'm without money
Anyone affected by VMC's total incompetence can take court action: http://www.woodlaw.com/cases/virtual-mining-corporation-and-active-mining-corporation
Of the 31 known Prospector boards ordered from VMC:
15 Delivered are dead on arrival - still waiting for replacement - (computerjesus/ Kodemadge)
4 delivered and working. (2 to bargraphics & 2 to 'unknown user')
5 Delivered - waited 30 days - all confirmed working (emjay47)
6 ordered by rogerli9 (ordered 2014-04-11) delivered 25 days late
1 orderd by VinceSaimos - took 5 weeks to arrive - working ok.
Refunds:
@Magzy- 2nd Refund check arrived - awaiting clearance at bank.
@metalchain - Still waiting - I sent PM to Ken many times. He always reply to me "We will ~~, ASAP~~~, Quickly~~~, next week~~~"
@cryptoconomist- still waiting - "Two weeks ago on a Friday I spoke to him again and he literally promised me he was going to ship my order on the following Monday, but haven't heard from him. Since then, when I log into my account, my initial order has now been moved to "refund" status and my new order to "cancelled" which contradicts what Ken and I discussed. I wrote so many emails to him and to the Active Mining threads but my posts keep getting deleted"
@meccaflare0 - still waiting "ken owes me like $x"
@greek_hephaestus - unknown -"Thank you very much Magzy for your suggestion . I will do it in a few days. [contact the AG] First I send one more message to VMC. Thank's again."
@coindesk - http://www.coindesk.com/mining-hardware-companies-miners-roundup/
@lenart_o - I'm waiting for refund [of $10k] since february this year there is no chance to get back my money?? I'm from Poland and I don't have idea how to get back my money . I was stupid and I was belive in company with no proof now I'm without money
Anyone affected by VMC's total incompetence can take court action: http://www.woodlaw.com/cases/virtual-mining-corporation-and-active-mining-corporation
Ken,
please tell me about the status of my refund cheque!
please tell me about the status of my refund cheque!
Ken has wrote a total of 15 checks since Feb. One a week. ( this is going of 2 check number differences in that time) you need to try harder or take him to court. There's a VMC class Acton link on my unofficial thread
Edit. I got my refund check 5 months after asking for it. Worst customer service ever.
Ken refund him already!
Thanks for your support Magzy!
@Magzy Seems like your forgot that the refund check was mailed 3 months ago to you.
You need to read this book instead of berating your customers.http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/0471772720?pc_redir=1399293763&robot_redir=1
And yet, your thread is out of date. VinceSamos has received his unit (has been at least a day or two now).
If you are going to try and keep some sort of 'log' to show how crappy Ken is, at least make the effort to keep it updated.
when was it last updated?
I cannot find it. Link plz.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=491609.0Ken,
please tell me about the status of my refund cheque!
please tell me about the status of my refund cheque!
Ken has wrote a total of 15 checks since Feb. One a week. ( this is going of 2 check number differences in that time) you need to try harder or take him to court. There's a VMC class Acton link on my unofficial thread
Edit. I got my refund check 5 months after asking for it. Worst customer service ever.
Ken refund him already!
Re: IN STOCK - $1.73/gh - VMC Fast Hash One Gold Rush - 750GH/s 0.83w/gh [SM]
Bam - they are real! And came with a USB cable thingo...
When did you pay for this? Also what payment method? Curious as to how fast they really ship.
Vince Paid and had to wait 2.5 weeks for payment to be acknowledged. Then a further 7 days for it to leave the VMC door. then a further 7 days for delivery to the UK..
Total time = 4 weeks, 3ish days
In that time difficulty went up by 30% and a large portion of vince's profit went out the door.
Of course, Vince being an activemining shareholder and all out shill for VMC and Ken, has painted this in a positive light.
Being a customer of VMC I can attest to their waywardness and all out bulshittery.
If I was you I'd buy from china with EMS express shipping.