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After years of mining I'm in the "boring" category with nothing good currently to mine or that I can find on the horizon. Anyone have anything good they are mining I might have missed or coming up? I'm sure there are others out there who are starting to feel the same...
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Anyone test with nexys ? How hashrate? This is the stuff https://store.digilentinc.com/nexys-video-artix-7-fpga-trainer-board-for-multimedia-applications/
no but we are testing the FPGA of Intel FPGA cards, so far they doing better then the xilinx https://nocroom.com/fpga
... but the price for a Stratix 10 is so high 
.Do you ever tested the Intel XEON CPU with integrated fpga ?
This?
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/altera-www/global/en_US/images/products/devkits/altera/images/arria10_fpga_kit.jpg
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/programmable/products/boards_and_kits/dev-kits/altera/kit-a10-gx-fpga.html
Or do you mean this CPU?
https://www.top500.org/static/media/uploads/.thumbnails/xeon-fpga-front.jpg/xeon-fpga-front-360x485.jpg
With the same FPGA built in.
https://www.intel.com/content/dam/altera-www/global/en_US/support/boards-kits/arria10/FPGA/arria_10_fpga_diagram_updated.png
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She says the new product consists of a Xeon Scalable Processor 6138P (Gold) processor hooked up to an Arria 10 GX 1150 FPGA on the same package.
https://www.top500.org/news/intel-ships-xeon-skylake-processor-with-integrated-fpga/
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2GB DDR4 SDRAM, 2GB DDR3 SDRAM
Funny I was thinking using all ddr4 was not cost effective nor needed (?).
It would have to be an entire system build per chip?
I don't even want to know what they are charging for that chip, probably $10k+
Wow the Intel XEON with ingegrated Arria 10 GX 1150 FPGA is killer!
Did anyone tryed low-end Xilinx chips like "Artix 7 XC7A200T" ? It can be bought real cheap and maybe stacked to bigger FPGA cluster, It is also awailable from Ztex as module 2.18b, I would be interested in hashrates that one small fpga can make.
Hy
i wan´t build a liquid cooling system and my question now is, what are the max chip-temps for my Antminer?
i have:
S9 13.5 (overclock to Frequency 650 with 13.7 temp 80)
D3 19.3 (overclock to Frequency 600 with 22.5 temp 80)
L3+ 504 (overclock to Frequency 500 with 655 temp 60)
B3 780(overclock to Frequency 750 with 1100 temp 38)
Z9 10 (overclock to Frequency 750 with 17.5 temp 45)
all with air!!!
When I go on liquid what temps then and can I put Frequency up?
What are the max?
Thanks Thomas
i wan´t build a liquid cooling system and my question now is, what are the max chip-temps for my Antminer?
i have:
S9 13.5 (overclock to Frequency 650 with 13.7 temp 80)
D3 19.3 (overclock to Frequency 600 with 22.5 temp 80)
L3+ 504 (overclock to Frequency 500 with 655 temp 60)
B3 780(overclock to Frequency 750 with 1100 temp 38)
Z9 10 (overclock to Frequency 750 with 17.5 temp 45)
all with air!!!
When I go on liquid what temps then and can I put Frequency up?
What are the max?
Thanks Thomas
Simple answer is yes, but I think you can still go to max. 850 and maybe adjust some voltage settings, temperature is not the only limiting factor I think, there are voltage regulators with their limits also... (correct me if I´m wrong)
The hardest part would be to remove current coolers, because they are glued by epoxy (didnt tried by myself, but you can read it on forum).
I was thinking about some kind of foam, that can have contact with original coolers...
Maybe another cooling solutions would work better (imersion/oil etc..) but it is not clear how long can device in such fluid work... (not for long term I think)
You can find some oil cooling experiments on YouTube (S9 in proper oil can work few months max. I think), If you have nothing to loose
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Hi folks,
I was just thinking about one thing
- Is this even possible for 4+ companies (BM,Baikal,Halong, Pinidea and maybe more) to randomly come with CryptoNight (-light) miners in almost same time?
I smell something fishy there, just call it something like mafia or "Cartel"
Is it only me who is observing too many things pointing that release of new algo miners arent so random?
I was just thinking about one thing
- Is this even possible for 4+ companies (BM,Baikal,Halong, Pinidea and maybe more) to randomly come with CryptoNight (-light) miners in almost same time?
I smell something fishy there, just call it something like mafia or "Cartel"
Is it only me who is observing too many things pointing that release of new algo miners arent so random?
My guess is that it really is using a new chip with the old board design (why reinvent that portion if its works?).
I'm wondering if this is the new Samsung chip that has been in the news and that they simply don't work to spec? This happened commonly in the "old days" back around 2014 with GAWs rebranded miners and other manufacturers.
If so, they are likely just dumping at a small margin to recover their losses while they work out whatever went wrong.
My 2 cents.
I'm wondering if this is the new Samsung chip that has been in the news and that they simply don't work to spec? This happened commonly in the "old days" back around 2014 with GAWs rebranded miners and other manufacturers.
If so, they are likely just dumping at a small margin to recover their losses while they work out whatever went wrong.
My 2 cents.
Samsung is manufacturing 10nm for EBANG miners, Im pretty sure.
This is most probably dump of old chips, because new miner on 12nm TSMC process comes March-April (Lets say S9+).
It make sense, because when Dragons (if exist) and Bitfury and new S9+ hits the market, theese chips will be worth nothing. Now there can be some desperate users with cheap or free electricity that can buy it.
Thats my view.
Hello everybody,
i am looking to buy an Antminer S9 or L3+ .
can you tell me where can i find them? to be at a reasonable price , i see on amazon and ebay that they are at 4500 euro. in my opinion is expensive
in this case at 4500 euro on mining bitcoin you get your money back in 6 mounts if the bitcoin mining difficulty remain the same
i look over
https://antminersshop.com/ and i found on youtube someone that have a review that he didn't receive the product ( SCAMMER )
https://bitminerstore.net/index.php?route=common/home they also have the products but the reviews on Antminer S9 14 th/s look so fake, i don't trust them
https://antshopeu.com/index.php?route=common/home have tho products at a good price but looks to good to be true
did someone buy from somewhere else in Europe ??
i am looking to buy an Antminer S9 or L3+ .
can you tell me where can i find them? to be at a reasonable price , i see on amazon and ebay that they are at 4500 euro. in my opinion is expensive
in this case at 4500 euro on mining bitcoin you get your money back in 6 mounts if the bitcoin mining difficulty remain the same
i look over
https://antminersshop.com/ and i found on youtube someone that have a review that he didn't receive the product ( SCAMMER )
https://bitminerstore.net/index.php?route=common/home they also have the products but the reviews on Antminer S9 14 th/s look so fake, i don't trust them
https://antshopeu.com/index.php?route=common/home have tho products at a good price but looks to good to be true
did someone buy from somewhere else in Europe ??
Wait for next batch from Bitmain directly, it is the best way to get them... Do not waste your money on resellers (90% of them are scam)
Interesting topic guys. I´m still thinking about things you are talking about there, and this should be possible.
I went through the whole process from FPGA to ASIC as a microelectronics student, from design to fabrication, yes I was personally in the clean room holding the wafers.
The saddest thing is that it was 5+ years back and the crypto was not so well known and I had no clue what can be done in this area.
Now I´m still on the same faculty as a PhD. student, I think I can pull some triggers and be helpful in this area.
If a group of members decide to try something, count me in.
Moderator's note: This post was edited by frodocooper to remove an unnecessary quote.
I went through the whole process from FPGA to ASIC as a microelectronics student, from design to fabrication, yes I was personally in the clean room holding the wafers.
The saddest thing is that it was 5+ years back and the crypto was not so well known and I had no clue what can be done in this area.
Now I´m still on the same faculty as a PhD. student, I think I can pull some triggers and be helpful in this area.
If a group of members decide to try something, count me in.
Moderator's note: This post was edited by frodocooper to remove an unnecessary quote.
hi there,
please I want your help with my problem, I have antminer s9 that I purchased recently which stopped mining after two days with a red light blinking
I reset it but not use plz see the attachments with my antiminer
https://www.gulf-up.com/01-2018/1515418187181.jpg
https://www.gulf-up.com/01-2018/1515418187232.jpg
https://www.gulf-up.com/01-2018/1515418187273.jpg
https://www.gulf-up.com/01-2018/1515418187314.jpg
I clicked your images before reading 2nd post so I hope its clear
Answer: This was caused by connection to pool error in my case, check cable, router and use "Network>Diagnostics>Ping" to check if your router have access to internet.
Re: What is Bitmain doing with the new 12nm chips they're buying in 2018?
This lines up with the rumors ive heard that Bitmains next miner will be 12nm. They are supposed to announce it this month.
Hopefully, better to announce new miner than overtake network
Re: What is Bitmain doing with the new 12nm chips they're buying in 2018?
the long link mentions bitmain and it would be 10k chips a month for first 3 months of year
and a total of 100k chip order.
which if you are putting into a 180 chip s11 is not a lot of s11's
and a total of 100k chip order.
which if you are putting into a 180 chip s11 is not a lot of s11's
Your counting is not correct IMHO,
100.000 wafers is not 100.000 chips... There are usually a lot of chips on one wafer, there is the same mistake on 8btc website who re-take this news...
Something big is happening there! It is a lot of chips.
Maybe it is 12nm-16nm for next batches of S9 (maybe S9+) because they hyped price and there is still no competing company, they have a monopol now. So why make new miner now?
This is why I think that:
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"An enhanced version of TSMC's 16nm process was introduced in late 2016 called "12nm"
"In late 2016 TSMC announced a "12nm" process (e.g. 12FFC) which uses the same design rules as the 16nm node. The enhanced process is said to feature lower leakage better and cost characteristics and perhaps a better name (vs. "14nm"). 12nm is expected to enter mass production in late 2017."
[Source: https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/16_nm_lithography_process]
"In late 2016 TSMC announced a "12nm" process (e.g. 12FFC) which uses the same design rules as the 16nm node. The enhanced process is said to feature lower leakage better and cost characteristics and perhaps a better name (vs. "14nm"). 12nm is expected to enter mass production in late 2017."
[Source: https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/16_nm_lithography_process]
the article said chips not wafers
http://news.8btc.com/bitmain-urgent-order-100k-12nm-chips-from-tsmc-in-2018
Digitimes is original source:
https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20180102VL201.html
"The short lead-time orders total about 100,000 wafer starts, and will be built using a 12nm process at TSMC"
There is a mistake in re-taken article on 8btc
So this is a hell lot of chips... Maybe BM is trying to overtake some cryptocurrency or make private hard-fork? I'm just speculating...
that article appears to refer to the entire 12nm production of the foundry with more then 1 company in on that amount
well if you think every chip from 100,000 wafers is for Bitmain damn that would be a lot of gear.
Havw ro wait and see.
1 wafer = $3500 I am not sure that bitmain order 350 million dollars in chips
3500 x 100000 = 350,000,000 I think that is all wafers for all companies but if it is just for bitmain that is very impressive
Is there somebody who knows what is BM1387 chip size? And what is TSMC 12nm wafer size?
maybe some deeper search on the internet can help to figure estimated chips amount The main question is: is it only for BM?
In case of $350m invest, I'm not skeptical, because they made a lot of money via BCH hype.
Some fast digging for 16nm:
Quote from: @jimmyson
If you know the die-size of the chip, you can figure out exactly how many chips you can print per wafer. The Bitmain BM1387 chip is somewhere below 20 mm² in die size, and though it isnt published, looks to be 3mm x 4mm by measuring the inside.
We can plug in these numbers to a die-per-wafer calculator and get 5158 chips per wafer (were using the 300mm/12" wafers as is industry standard). Each S9 miner uses 189 such chips, so each wafer can make enough chips for a little over 27 S9's. Each wafer costs around $8000, so the chips for each S9 costs roughly $300.
source: https://medium.com/@jimmysong/just-how-profitable-is-bitmain-a9df82c761a
We can plug in these numbers to a die-per-wafer calculator and get 5158 chips per wafer (were using the 300mm/12" wafers as is industry standard). Each S9 miner uses 189 such chips, so each wafer can make enough chips for a little over 27 S9's. Each wafer costs around $8000, so the chips for each S9 costs roughly $300.
source: https://medium.com/@jimmysong/just-how-profitable-is-bitmain-a9df82c761a
So if 12nm would be the same size (probably should be even smaller?), this is for 27*100.000 = 2.700.000 units
If it stays on same hashrate (14TH/s) they have: 2.700.000 * 14 = 37.800.000 TH/s = 37.800 PH/s
This would be >100% attack
BTW. its not bad to overtake $16.279.200.000 total network cap with $350.000.000 investment
In other side, if I would overtake whole BTC network, I would not get this message leaked
Re: What is Bitmain doing with the new 12nm chips they're buying in 2018?
the long link mentions bitmain and it would be 10k chips a month for first 3 months of year
and a total of 100k chip order.
which if you are putting into a 180 chip s11 is not a lot of s11's
and a total of 100k chip order.
which if you are putting into a 180 chip s11 is not a lot of s11's
Your counting is not correct IMHO,
100.000 wafers is not 100.000 chips... There are usually a lot of chips on one wafer, there is the same mistake on 8btc website who re-take this news...
Something big is happening there! It is a lot of chips.
Maybe it is 12nm-16nm for next batches of S9 (maybe S9+) because they hyped price and there is still no competing company, they have a monopol now. So why make new miner now?
This is why I think that:
Quote
"An enhanced version of TSMC's 16nm process was introduced in late 2016 called "12nm"
"In late 2016 TSMC announced a "12nm" process (e.g. 12FFC) which uses the same design rules as the 16nm node. The enhanced process is said to feature lower leakage better and cost characteristics and perhaps a better name (vs. "14nm"). 12nm is expected to enter mass production in late 2017."
[Source: https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/16_nm_lithography_process]
"In late 2016 TSMC announced a "12nm" process (e.g. 12FFC) which uses the same design rules as the 16nm node. The enhanced process is said to feature lower leakage better and cost characteristics and perhaps a better name (vs. "14nm"). 12nm is expected to enter mass production in late 2017."
[Source: https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/16_nm_lithography_process]
the article said chips not wafers
http://news.8btc.com/bitmain-urgent-order-100k-12nm-chips-from-tsmc-in-2018
Digitimes is original source:
https://www.digitimes.com/news/a20180102VL201.html
"The short lead-time orders total about 100,000 wafer starts, and will be built using a 12nm process at TSMC"
There is a mistake in re-taken article on 8btc
So this is a hell lot of chips... Maybe BM is trying to overtake some cryptocurrency or make private hard-fork? I'm just speculating...
Re: What is Bitmain doing with the new 12nm chips they're buying in 2018?
That's the question, is it 100K wafers or 100K chips? 100K chips is not even one lot of 25 wafers if it were bm1387-sized chips, so that's a debug run or metal split or something.
100K wafers on the other hand is a stupidly large order, on the order of one billion chips in 4000 lots. The upfront cost would be quite staggering, especially if it were expedited to TSMC's highest priority as suggested by the mention of urgency.
100K wafers on the other hand is a stupidly large order, on the order of one billion chips in 4000 lots. The upfront cost would be quite staggering, especially if it were expedited to TSMC's highest priority as suggested by the mention of urgency.
That's what I was trying to get my head around, the possibility that it is the actual number of wafers... I mean, SkyNet probably used less to destroy the world.
I wouldn't be surprised though if BitMain could actually handle that serious frontend cost, they've made quite a profit just in only taking BCH and running that racket.
Yes, surprisingly they are releasing next batch of S9 today... I'm curious when they will come out with 12nm because if the news about new miner come out, nobody would buy S9 now...
or maybe they will keep them for their farms?
Re: What is Bitmain doing with the new 12nm chips they're buying in 2018?
the long link mentions bitmain and it would be 10k chips a month for first 3 months of year
and a total of 100k chip order.
which if you are putting into a 180 chip s11 is not a lot of s11's
and a total of 100k chip order.
which if you are putting into a 180 chip s11 is not a lot of s11's
Your counting is not correct IMHO,
100.000 wafers is not 100.000 chips... There are usually a lot of chips on one wafer, there is the same mistake on 8btc website who re-take this news...
Something big is happening there! It is a lot of chips.
Maybe it is 12nm-16nm for next batches of S9 (maybe S9+) because they hyped price and there is still no competing company, they have a monopol now. So why make new miner now?
This is why I think that:
Quote
"An enhanced version of TSMC's 16nm process was introduced in late 2016 called "12nm"
"In late 2016 TSMC announced a "12nm" process (e.g. 12FFC) which uses the same design rules as the 16nm node. The enhanced process is said to feature lower leakage better and cost characteristics and perhaps a better name (vs. "14nm"). 12nm is expected to enter mass production in late 2017."
[Source: https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/16_nm_lithography_process]
"In late 2016 TSMC announced a "12nm" process (e.g. 12FFC) which uses the same design rules as the 16nm node. The enhanced process is said to feature lower leakage better and cost characteristics and perhaps a better name (vs. "14nm"). 12nm is expected to enter mass production in late 2017."
[Source: https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/16_nm_lithography_process]
Things in China are getting unpredictable , We are planning to move our machines to Europe. Right now we are looking for cheap electricity power . our capacity is 150MKH. any advice ? 
Welcome to the forum,
sorry but I don't have any advice for you, but can you explain what is going on in China?
We have read many articles about closing mining facilities, but what is the real situation?
I guess my MKH you mean Mw/h
Re: What is Bitmain doing with the new 12nm chips they're buying in 2018?
Article here: http://news.8btc.com/bitmain-urgent-order-100k-12nm-chips-from-tsmc-in-2018
TL;DR:
So what are this chips going to become? If they are getting these chips in Q1, product sales will start soon. Or maybe they are producing next-gen hardware for them and we won't see the new miners for months?
TL;DR:
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According to Digitimes, TSMC has received an urgent order from Bitmain for 100k 12nm HPC (high performance computing) chips at the beginning of 2018. 10k chips will be delivered every month in Q1 2018 and more in Q2.
So what are this chips going to become? If they are getting these chips in Q1, product sales will start soon. Or maybe they are producing next-gen hardware for them and we won't see the new miners for months?
Interesting find, but I did not find any other source of this news. Link to "Digitimes" marked as a source is not working, direct search on DigiTimes shows nothing.
I'm not sure if this is reliable message to take care of.
It will be interesting to see more replies from members on this topic.
Thanks for the info anyway.
I have contacted official Bitfury via email, their price is 7.000 USD per unit, with delivery within 8 months.
You can contact sales@bitfury.com
Dont use the fake scam website... contact them directly
You can contact sales@bitfury.com
Dont use the fake scam website... contact them directly
FYI to all, there is a flash sale on ebang for E10 delivery around end of Jan for USD4300
At 1 pm Jan 4th, who knows what time zone. Min 20 units! And delivery is actually March 31st.It is GMT+8 so its up for sale now. The MOQ is killer...
86.000 USD invest to unknow company miners that was made for testing purpose? No thanks...
(Btw. stock for this BATCH-0 shows 770pcs, just to note...)