I have experience withdraw usd straight from my bank account, and also from my chase debit card. Everything goes without issue.

The only difference is the timeframe of funding. from bank account = 7 days. From debit = instant

Here is what I was able to come up with.  Initially 150 million.

103,548,812 tokens offered during the ICO.  I guess roughly about 12 million were sold?  The rest will be burned.

5,201,188 were sold in a presale.

41.8 million to the team/advisors/board/bounty.  Of this I don't know how much was allotted for the bounty program because I did not participate.

Thank you for the calculations. I also invested, but am worried a bit because of the numbers. I'd like to add a bit to the math:

Only the unsold coins meant for the ICO will be burned, none of those meant for the team or the bounty programm! This means there will be 22.5M tokens for the team, 19M tokens for the bounty programm, and only 8.5M held due to pre-sale and ICO (gives you a total of 50M). If ICO doesn't raise significantly more, which it only will if some changes are made, these are the numbers. Sure, the individual percentage of tokens held rises, but the percentage for all buyers is lowered.

 So, current token value: $3.5M/50M  = $0.07 ea.
 final token value (if al tokens were sold): $50M/150M = $ 0.33 ea.
During ICO one has to pay almost ten fold.

Other ICOs (real estate type too) calculate the team share as a percentage of the sold tokens. As mfgex correctly statet, you'll have to burn the same percentage of team tokens, ICO tokens and bounty tokens in order for sale contributors not having to pay everything but only be getting 20% of the tokens, not 69% as you state on the website. That number is only true if all 100M were sold. Other ICOs fix the percentage held by buyers at at least 50%. Sorry, team and bounty people, but I'm sure you'll see the injustice towards investors, if only they lose token percentage.

Unfortunately this way the ICO is mathematically simply unattractive. One can expect the token value to drop by a factor of ten once the tokens are on the exchange and basically feel how ones investment is simply drained towards the team members.


I'm new to the forum and hope not to be judged solely because of that. Only sharing my thoughts in a civil manner. Hope the project still makes it, despite an unfair situation for ICO investors.

The reason the cap is large is because we are aiming to fix a global issue. We can start fixing it wirth one street or with one continent, or anything in between.

Obviously the funds required to reinvent the way real estate is transacted is well north of our cap, yet our goals are ambitions enough to do just that.

I didn't yet check your math, but it is largely irrelevant.  The reason is that we have declared from the very start that we will burn any unsold tokens. Because of this anyone who participates should benifit from an anti dilutive effect.

I heard you can take dinosaurs with ark. Can anyone confirm?

I have a strong feeling this is because the US government is pressuring every group/company that's working with crypto.  It wouldn't surprise me if Bittrex was approached, shown BTC-e, and highly suggested they begin to limit actions of unverified users if they want to keep operating.  I'm in the US and it's quite frustrating how antagonistic my government is to crypto.

Does anybody else have the same feeling that because this ICO is so huge ($180M invested at the moment) and has no cap, it will be much efficient to wait until it reaches the exchanges and buy in dump due to newbie panic sell at the start for maybe a half price compared in ICO?