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Re: FYI: Vircurex ANC deposits not showing for days now.
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mgoldfinger
on 10/07/2014, 08:08:19 UTC
still broken. still no response
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FYI: Vircurex ANC deposits not showing for days now.
by
mgoldfinger
on 09/07/2014, 07:56:56 UTC
Customer Service is also not responding.

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Re: Should banks offer Bitcoin custody and payment services?
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mgoldfinger
on 02/07/2014, 11:32:46 UTC
good old bump!
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Re: Should banks offer Bitcoin custody and payment services?
by
mgoldfinger
on 27/06/2014, 11:11:53 UTC
Interesting link:

http://www.doge-coins.nl/news-2/dutch-bank-abn-amro-reportedly-experimenting-bitcoin/

I also read several articles that suggest banks are mostly interested in the underlying technology.
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Re: Should banks offer Bitcoin custody and payment services?
by
mgoldfinger
on 25/06/2014, 15:24:53 UTC
A lot of "bank hate" in this thread.

Of course, bitcoin is open source and available to everyone (including banks).

I strongly expect that some sort of audited, regulated, insured custody accounts will exist in the future.  Nobody will be forced to use them, but many people will choose to use them.  It will be very profitable for the institution that is holding the custody accounts, and many people who fear their own technical ability to secure their bitcoins will make use of such institutions.

Custody could be very cheap I believe (perhaps even as little as 50 USD per year).  I personally think that the profitability would come from exchange/broker services. Banks usually charge a fee when (e.g.) you buy stock, or foreign currency.

Edit: payment services usually also charge a fee, to the merchant
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Re: Should banks offer Bitcoin custody and payment services?
by
mgoldfinger
on 25/06/2014, 10:54:30 UTC

I don't care how much regulation you throw at them. If you let them bitcoins in custody we'll have one billion bitcoins in circulation before a year. They simply can't be trusted.

Thats not possible; Banks can't just create more bitcoins, just like a bank can not produce more gold or simply issue more stocks of a certain company. (that is the beauty of the Bitcoin)

actually, if banks did hold bitcoins as a financial product they offer. it wouldnt be to much of a stretch for them to try off-chain transactions.
by giving people a SQL bank database balance of bitcoins and let people trade the database (leading to fractional reserving) where there are only 21million real bitcoins, but the banks showing 1billion bitcoins on their SQL database..

... just like the current FIAT debt crisis
... just like karpals let people trade his SQL database while hiding the real coins.

sounds almost like we will be screwed either way.... no ethics left anymore....
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Re: Should banks offer Bitcoin custody and payment services?
by
mgoldfinger
on 25/06/2014, 10:38:10 UTC
Remember Cyprus.

that was not really a bank, now was it. I am talking more about banks such as: Barclays, Bank Of America. Standard Bank, etc.

The money wasn't stolen from piggy banks and matresses, was it?

And no bank can be trusted.

Banks Face a Storm of Investigations and Litigation

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-11-14/2014-outlook-banks-face-investigations-and-litigation


yes, very true. Good thing to I would say.

Still, Banks can't operate like Mark Karpelès did. He does seem to have a nice appartment though  ;-)
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Re: Should banks offer Bitcoin custody and payment services?
by
mgoldfinger
on 25/06/2014, 10:33:15 UTC

thanks for the reply. Understand that most banks are staying away from BTC. But what if a Bank would offer such services, that is my question.

in reality banks are under contract to only touch FIAT directly, by the mint/fed/government.

but in a hyperthetical / political fiction story.
anyone can get bitcoins more easily, and businesses can pay bills/taxes more easily.

but that wont happen in reality. its far easier to make bitcoin grow to a point that bank accounts are not needed for daily living. rather then getting banks to distribute bitcoins.

I can store my Gold at a bank, or even the deed to my house. I can deposit my stocks and transfer them in and out.
Mind you, I never said that BTC should be treated as a Currency. Most tax authorities see it as an asset anyway. Very tradable asset though ;-)
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Re: Should banks offer Bitcoin custody and payment services?
by
mgoldfinger
on 25/06/2014, 10:29:57 UTC
read all of the bank announcements. they only deal with fiat directly. not bitcoins, not baked beans not gold.

if you want bitcoins go to an exchange/localbitcoins
if you want baked beans go to a grocery store
if you want gold go to a pawn shop.

if banks included bitcoins as on of their 'financial products' then regulation will own bitcoins


thanks for the reply. Understand that most banks are staying away from BTC. But what if a Bank would offer such services, that is my question.

Edit: and I do mean a respectable, traditional Bank.

I don't care how much regulation you throw at them. If you let them bitcoins in custody we'll have one billion bitcoins in circulation before a year. They simply can't be trusted.

Thats not possible; Banks can't just create more bitcoins, just like a bank can not produce more gold or simply issue more stocks of a certain company. (that is the beauty of the Bitcoin)
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Re: Should banks offer Bitcoin custody and payment services?
by
mgoldfinger
on 25/06/2014, 10:24:40 UTC
Isn't the whole point of bitcoins that we don't need any bank?

not as far as the network itself is concerned.
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Re: Should banks offer Bitcoin custody and payment services?
by
mgoldfinger
on 25/06/2014, 10:23:39 UTC
Remember Cyprus.

that was not really a bank, now was it. I am talking more about banks such as: Barclays, Bank Of America. Standard Bank, etc.
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Re: Should banks offer Bitcoin custody and payment services?
by
mgoldfinger
on 25/06/2014, 10:19:02 UTC
read all of the bank announcements. they only deal with fiat directly. not bitcoins, not baked beans not gold.

if you want bitcoins go to an exchange/localbitcoins
if you want baked beans go to a grocery store
if you want gold go to a pawn shop.

if banks included bitcoins as on of their 'financial products' then regulation will own bitcoins


thanks for the reply. Understand that most banks are staying away from BTC. But what if a Bank would offer such services, that is my question.

Edit: and I do mean a respectable, traditional Bank.
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Should banks offer Bitcoin custody and payment services?
by
mgoldfinger
on 25/06/2014, 09:58:12 UTC
I have been playing around with the idea of a (non-investment) Bank offering BiTCoin custody and payment services. Some of the key benefits I see:
- Bank standard IT security; same IT security as for your cash/debit/savings accounts.
- Integrated with your non-crypto accounts; one stop shop.
- Under regulatory framework; consumer protection and yearly (tax) statements.
- High level of familiarity for the less BiTCoin experienced user (from the user perspective it works, more or less, just like any other bank account).
- BiTCoin addresses are legally linked to owner; no anonymous accounts. Together with the regualtory framework, I believe this would be very valuable for merchants, as it provides a vehicle through which they can 'guarantee’  their accounts and BTC holdings.
- Proper, audited and regulated accounting (if anything, Banks generally run tight accounting; very unlikly a MT Gox scenario could unfold at a bank).

I do have some premises though:
- On the basis of a custody account like structure only (e.g. like a equity deposit account). Added benefit is that, if the bank defaults, your holdings are guaranteed (at least this is how Dutch Law works).
- No lending activities, secured or unsecured.
- No speculation by both the Bank and the Consumer.
- No termed business.
- More or less the same qualifications and identifications needed to open a BTC Account, as for (e.g.) a regular Checking account.
- Banks opt as a Broker only for USD/BTC conversions. A central clearing organization may be needed here to support.

One key downside i see is that you will likely not get any interest. That’s the price you pay for prohibiting lending and termed business.

So what do you think?


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Re: My Cryptsy Account just got Hacked/Compromised!!!!
by
mgoldfinger
on 24/06/2014, 15:37:41 UTC
How do you guys feel if a Bank would offer BitCoin (custody) services?

They should be able to offer the same level if (IT) protection, as for their cash/checkings/savings accounts. They would also fall under a regulatory framework and will likly not accept any anonymous accounts.
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Re: My Cryptsy Account just got Hacked/Compromised!!!!
by
mgoldfinger
on 24/06/2014, 15:29:58 UTC
Next time i suggest you using NOD32 antivirus it really protects you even from keyloggers.

thanks for the tip.
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Re: My Cryptsy Account just got Hacked/Compromised!!!!
by
mgoldfinger
on 24/06/2014, 15:21:09 UTC
If u use trash like cryptsy AND arent able to secure ur account then u deserve to get hacked man

~CfA~

come-from-above, goes-down-the-drain

Thumbs up to you!
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Re: My Cryptsy Account just got Hacked/Compromised!!!!
by
mgoldfinger
on 24/06/2014, 15:20:14 UTC
Great

the fuckers also got my Blcokchain account!

fucking ASSHOLES should DIE!

Nazi scumbags

Were you using the same password for your Cryptsy, Gmail, and Blockchain accounts? Did you not have two factor authentification enabled on any three of the aforementioned accounts? If yes, you have no one to blame but yourself because this was bound to happen by not taking security seriously. If no, you should probably ditch the Symantec for a product that is capable of protecting you from a keylogger, or you should simply avoid malware sources altogether..

Edit:
Yeah....

Painfull exposure to the biggest reason btc can not become truly mainstream: accounts not linked to owners....
Wallets are a pretty mainstream concept at this point in human history, but if I remove your ID from your wallet, the wallet and its contents are no longer linked to an owner.

i was wondering that too sounds like same password on multiple sites but he has avoided mentioning that so i suspect he did..

coindesk ran a story on this kinda stuff and what i though was funny is Google puts sponsored links first i guess (i don't see them i use scripts / hax / adblockers etc)
what was interesting though is Blockcahin was the example in the new story showing how the google result was a fake site that looked legit.

last year a guy on cryptsy chat got hit by going to google to go to cryptsy and he went to a fake site that stole his login cookie.. he got owned hard !

i have for about a year told people don't use google to find any crypto sites.. for starters
get smart..

there is gonna be a lot of people ripped off.. inevitable

I was using very different passwords for both.

The google incident you described above is actually what happend to me, I think. What I find strange though is how they got my blockchain password, as I did not link this to my google e-mail account, nor do I ever e-mail passwords to my gmail account. FYI I also have other accounts outside of Cryptsy/Blockchain, that they did not hit.


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Re: My Cryptsy Account just got Hacked/Compromised!!!!
by
mgoldfinger
on 24/06/2014, 15:16:34 UTC
2FA is what I believe should be a standard process for all your IMP accounts.
In today's world where hackers can get access to your passwords using keyloggers, 2FA protects you.

Their is no formal registration that you are the owner of a Bitcoin wallet, therefor legally you can not prove / very difficult to prove that you own the bitcoins on the account.

For your bankaccount however, there is formal registration. Probably linked to your full Name, social security number and/or Passport; you can never question the ownership of the account. (e.g. if I ask a Bank to verify the owner of a Account, they can do that)
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Re: My Cryptsy Account just got Hacked/Compromised!!!!
by
mgoldfinger
on 18/06/2014, 02:04:04 UTC
Yeah....

Painfull exposure to the biggest reason btc can not become truly mainstream: accounts not linked to owners....
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Re: My Cryptsy Account just got Hacked/Compromised!!!!
by
mgoldfinger
on 18/06/2014, 01:52:18 UTC
On my phone now.....