I've yet to sit down and actually study the Bible or any other religious text of antiquity.  It's on my list of things to do, but it's a fairly big undertaking...and I don't read to good.

I will say that people do pull some jaw-dropping things out of both the Bible and the Talmud on regular basis.  I enjoy these things a lot.  The reason the Babylonian Talmud stuff interests me is because it is clearly a driving force in my country (the U.S.) at the moment.  We will probably have Kushner as president fairly soon, and that husband/wife team are Chabad-Lubavitch who take the most objectionable things out of the Talmud and run with them.  Run hard.  The unabashed ethnic supremacy of these folks is staggering and as a goy I'm not real comfortable being under their thumb.  Did you know that all of us goyim who ever lived are not even as valuable as the fingernail of any Jew?   The last Lubavitcher Rebbe, who's grave Jared and Ivanka went to pray for the Donald to win POTUS at, said as much.

Rabbinical Jews will say that it is impossible to read the Talmud as a non-believing Goyim and one needs a lifetime of study to understand it.  Bullshit!  The stuff is as clear as a bell (if it is not invented of whole cloth by anti-semites) and it is also clear why Jesus stood up against them and why some of the Jews hold a grudge against the guy to this day.

There are a lot of itemized excuses for this and that in the Babylonian Talmud.  Trouble is, the concepts outlined in the Talmud explain the behavior of the zionists toward Palestinians (and every other group of goyim for that matter) that we see every day to a tee.  The proof is in the pudding so to speak.

Turns out that being distinctly NOT an ethic supremacist is a good way to gain a world-wide following which is what happened with Christ and Christianity by the looks of things.  Who would have thunk it?  Only some real idiot goyim will follow these ethnic supremacists with their '7 Noahide laws' and the rest of their bullshit.  That's the evangelical flock these days.  Not the mega-church pastors of course.  They are obviously on the dole and are very likely hard-core Lucifarians anyway.

Matter is created and destroyed all of the time. A highly energetic photon can create a matter/antimatter pair. Likewise a matter/antimatter pair can annihilate each other to create a photon. Furthermore, a proton can be converted into a neutron by emitting a positron and a neutrino via the weak force. The positron is then usually annihilated quickly by encountering a electron. This creates a gamma ray photon. The latter process that I explained is what is keeping the sun going.. In the end, the mass of a alpha particle (which is basically the nucleus of a helium 4 atom) is actually less than the four protons that were fused to create it and the two electrons annihilated. The mass is converted into the energy of the two gamma photons created when two of the protons were converted to the neutrons.


Edit:It appears the proton-proton chain is a little more complicated than I inferred. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proton%E2%80%93proton_chain_reaction  However, in the end, you do get matter/antimatter being created and destroyed and mass being converted into energy.

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You've so far, said four or five things that were untrue, dodged real issues a number of times, and topped it off with a bunch of emotional and juvenile attempts at insults.

This is not the behavior of one who should imitate Christ.

How about let's have a real miracle here, and you see the light?

I don't mind doing up publicly if anyone cares.

I'm probably an atheist for several main reasons.  1) brain wiring, and 2) I was from an 'atheist family' so to speak.

What I've come to believe rather recently is that even if someone is an atheist they still grew up an environment shaped by the prominent religion there-of, and usually it had a significant influence on them.  Shrieks to the contrary, the U.S. actually is, or at least until recently was, a 'Christian Nation' for all intents and purposes, and my own ethics were to a noticeable degree shaped by this fact.  That suites me fine because as I study things I come to the conclusion that many of the messages ascribed to the teachings of Jesus Christ were among the most noble devised by mankind anywhere.  It's fun to troll the modern American peeps with such a message since it really gets under some of their skin, but it also happens to be the truth...as I currently see it.  And as I always say, it's almost impossible to do a good troll without saying the truth since that is what makes it good.  And effective.

I would also say that some people call themselves 'atheist' because they don't fit into one of the 'big [int]' religions.  When they say 'but I am spiritual', they are not 'atheist' in my opinion.  Not even 'agnostic'.  In the West at least they are usually kabbalahists/luciferians more closely related to modern Judaism than anything else, but usually the don't know it.  That's what all this new-age weirdness is all about as I see it.  Molding the masses in anticipation of a hoped-for 'turning.'  And doing a bang-up job of it to my consternation.

I'm an atheist and many of my friends and family are also.  I can assure you that very very few of them are 'free thinkers', though it is not uncommon for them to believe they are, and sometimes by virtue of their atheism itself.

Currently I find that some of the people I respect the most in terms of being 'free thinkers' are are least mildly religious.  They tend to be unafraid to 'admit' their religiosity, but at the same time they rarely lean on their beliefs to inform their thinking and rhetorical arguments.  Most of the time I don't know that they are religious for a long time.

I've come to feel that being mildly religious gives people a certain freedom from certain constraints and lets them analyze with at least a different if not a lesser burden of baggage.  It is abundantly clear why more totalitarian forms of government are adverse to organized religion, or at least religions that are outside of their control.  There is a strong correlation between atheism (and especially militant atheism) among my friends/family and obedience/affection for the socialist state apparatus.

Well, that's the fourth false thing you have said so far in this discussion.

There has been no such thing. Perhaps you don't understand or care to, and just wanted me to elaborate on the many scammers, present and past, that pose as preachers?

It's curious you wouldn't appreciate the good work such people do...

Oh, I see. Well, perhaps that is your point now, but it was not with the prior post and quote. However, your prior post along with this belief are consistent. I certainly know scientists who are devout Christian/Muslim/whatever and do not see any conflict between their beliefs and science.

Yes, this world did come from pretty much nothing. It was all compressed into pretty much nothing before the Big Bang.