Centralized services are not the root problem—they are imperfect but functional solutions. Until decentralized CoinJoin coordinators emerge and gain widespread adoption, users must rely on what actually works. In this current landscape, that often means centralized approaches.


That’s not entirely accurate. CoinJoins, in themselves, are not inherently problematic. Over the last seven years of CoinJoin history, only a handful of incidents—primarily during the pre-AML period of zkSNACKs—led to exchange freezes or bans. Once AML filtering was introduced, those incidents stopped. Now, we’re seeing them return for users participating in non-AML CoinJoin rounds. This clearly shows the problem isn’t CoinJoin as a concept, but rather when illicit funds and legitimate users are part of the same transaction.


I completely agree that privacy is something we must actively defend—it’s no longer a default. That’s exactly the mission of the GingerPrivacy team: to build tools that empower users with privacy while navigating the realities of today’s regulatory landscape.

You're mistaken. The effect is the opposite. The most active free coordinators will get most of the users. There is no such thing as a "fed coordinator" - it would not make any sense. If you know anything about Wasabi (Zero-Link, WabiSabi), you would know that the coordinator is not able to extract any information even if they wanted to. If you want a real discussion, be concrete and avoid talking in riddles, what updates? which scammers? who is everyone? where is the lie and who lied?

Wasabi has silently broken compatibility with non-free coordinators since the last release v2.0.9 by removing the free remix and friends don't pay feature. If you see "IncorrectRequestedAmountCredentials" exceptions on the client side, it is because of this. The coordinator fee will be completely removed with the next release - https://github.com/WalletWasabi/WalletWasabi/pull/13297#issuecomment-2283555140. The last Wasabi version that is working properly with non-free coordinators was v2.8.0.1.

What do you mean? Ginger provides the same coordinator in that sense as zkSNACKs which was working well for years until the shutdown. It had AML as well.

Good job - professional!



It will be the opposite, Wasabi won't be compatible with the current coordinators, including Ginger. Wasabi is planning to have breaking changes in the future https://github.com/WalletWasabi/WalletWasabi/tree/Downsize%2BFOSS. My latest information from them is "No rush ... minimum 6 months until the hard fork".


Ginger currently does not perform any KYC (Know Your Customer) checks. While the AML (Anti-Money Laundering) procedures are correctly implemented, they do not apply to user transactions, that occur on the client side P2P manner. It would be more accurate if the text would be: "The coordinator applies AML procedures for coinjoin transactions.".

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