Interesting facts about miner.

You say "its free if you dont want to spend anything. you do have to invest some time though".. Yes, right - invest, as they wants.
Because if you use it free, you need many months to grow it to 10 lvl (I still have 4 lvl miner for about a month being an active user, it is ~30 Points in a day.... not even for 1 inFrame ad... And I invested in Tools and multiplyer!).

So, as a "fully understanding this program" user I must purchase the next 5th lvl miner for 8 000 satoshi..  Right? But lets see what it means.

I will pay 8k sat (- 8k from my poor balance), then I will have 8k points, so sure I will click inFrame ads (80-100 ads), and I`ll get 8k sat back (+ 8k to my balance).....

Anybody see what happens? I spend my time clicking inFrame ads for nothing! I watch it free!  I earned zero.  -8k and +8k on my balance gives the same balance as before. 

Oh yes, sorry, it is not a nothing, because i got miner lvl 5. What can it give to me? 18k credits per hour = ~40 points per day... loool

Bits-Pays takes advertisers money (100 sat per ad), then takes users (my) previously earned  satoshi (8k), and give to user (me) only 5lvl miner for it. For next level miner I have to purchase again and the next inFrame ads I will click again for nothing.

I know what I say, guys. I had that shit when I purchased Tool multiplayer for 2k sat, then I clicked a lot of inFrame ads feeling myself a big fool because I did it for nothing... just for useless miner`s tools.. 
And I have clicked all inFrame ads, so, for now I see inFrames ads only for 30 sat and less, not for 100 (for 2 weeks as I understand from rules).

So I dont want to purchase that miner lvl5 for 8k sat, and who knows how much will cost the next level. 

New users come to earn 100 sat per ad (as banner says), and they see that stupid price 1 sat per inFrame and 5 sat per Flash ad. They are new, and dont have miner lvl 10+.  And in a few days they understand how many months (or earned satoshies) they need to spend here in order to earn more than 700-800 sat per day.

You are happy with this site - ok, it is your choice. I`m just waiting for withdraw and leave it.  BTW, did you try to withdraw? I did. It is another stupid quest, where they did a lot to keep my earnings as long as possible, I must wait 14 days (!!!) in order to get my earned 28k satoshi LOL
Or I must pay them for withdraw...  Yes they again wants money.

ok, bro, I`m reading it every day, but it seems we are talking about two different websites here, or you never tried to get Points just clicking on ads as you say... Did you try? Do you know how much points you can earn from clicking ads? I will tell you - all Flash+all noFrame ads give you only 250-350 points. Try it please.

I must say I`m pretty active user, I login almost every day, add food to miner, collect mined credits (100-200k = 10-20 points), run helper for miner, solve captcha like a crazy for energy points, then I watch all Flash ads (5 sat most), all noFrame ads, collect D bonus (solving a lot of captcha again), and after all this work I have only 350-500 points to view inFrame ads.

Well, Bits-Pays, what kind of user I am? Am I cheater, as you say? Or real active user, who can click only a few inFrame ads because of your rules?

How much inFrame ads can I click?  3-5.  And when I finally click that few inFrame ads - I have got so tired already, while was watching all other ads before, and solving a lot of captcha (yes, I`m tired, I`m a human, not a robot) ...so sometimes I just open inFrame ad and go away from computer until it ends. Do inFrame advertisers must be happy? I dont think so. I`m not happy from this too.

I`m not an expert, but I think it must be much more easy for users to watch ads on PTC. More easy = more users = more views = more sence for advertisers.
Especially it must be easy for new users, who dont have miner lvl 10 and dont have enough amount on balance to pay for upgrade it.

But Bit-Pays dont care about users or advertisers. They do the best for themselfs only. They take money from advertisers and do not give it to users as long as possible. As result, advertisers get less views, users get less earnings, but Bits-Pays gets more money. All is simple.

Бесспорно - свой собственный горький опыт и ошибки учат лучше всего, хотя и больнее )) Но мы все же не теряем надежду, что предупредить - значит хотя бы насторожить, и стараемся пускать блог по системам активной рекламы, там где кишит ими,  прямо рядышком со всеми этими лохотронами ))   

И конечно мы всех не спасем, но если хоть кто-то прочитает, и не попадется на развод - уже не зря писали.

Да, мы тоже так думали, но нет, они процветают и плодятся..

Проблема в том, что новички будут всегда. Кто-то уже давно все знает, а кто-то только начал интересоваться, и это совсем не значит, что он лох, он просто еще не в курсе.

Зайдите на любой биткоин-букс (где платят сатоши за просмотр рекламы) ну или кран, и вот оно, все разнообразие облачных майнингов и генераторов перед вами!

Понятно, что не на нас с вами рассчитанных, но ведь если знаем мы, то это не значит, что знают все.

yes, by the way, I finally found a one offerwall and earned 1500 satoshi..

Offer:
LuckyWheel
satoshis:
1500 satoshis
Status:
Credited
Date:
31-03-2019 15:50:14

oh I was so happy, so many points!... But I was wrong - my balance at Bits-Pays didnt changed, I dont see my earnings and I dont see that damn points, which lets me to watch inFrame ads and earn there.
I contacted support, but no answer. I tried to read FAQ, but nothing, all text about offers that I can find is:

"Complete Offers and receive Satoshis in return. Please do not try cheating as if cough cheating earnings can be taken away from your balance."

Damn, who is cheating??  Where is my satoshies and my points?

So we are all wrong - me, and previous users who agree...

Why I should use miner or something else to have rights for watch ads??? Advertisers pay, I earn a part of this for watching their ad. Where is the problem?

And I dont know how to set up miner, it is still lvl 1, there are food, energy, maps - what are all these things?? I must read, understand, try to set up....
I see, maybe it is a nice game, but I dont like games, which I must play.. I play game only if I want to play it and like it, not if I must.

Anyway, I spended my time at Bits-Pays, and I will try to earn that 20k satoshies for withdraw (it should be a hard long work, i have only 11k, and miner lvl 1 ), then I will out.
Also their pop-up ads is annoing. They make users watch much more ad, than they pay. Not fair.

+ Agree too.

I`m not investor yet, I decides to earn some more sat before invest in my ad, but I cant earn!!

I log in, first I must watch all flash ads (most 5 sat per view), then I must watch all noFrame ads (max 80 sat at all), then I collect D Bonus ~200 sat, and finally i have only 350-400 points to watch inFrame ads. It will be 3-4 ads, not more.

Offerwalls = 1 or 2 satoshi per ad  -  nonsence
Miner = 1 point for 10k credits  - I need a weeks to earn 100 points - nonsence
What`s else?
Thats all. No way to earn, except Deposit! But I dont want to deposite, I came to earn!

Your banners says "come and earn with us 100 sat per view ad". I came and you dont let me earn as you promised, you make me waste my time for most 5 sat/view.

And who is cheating here? Me?

And another side - I cant understand, let say I`m Advertiser. I pay you for expensive ad, so I want my ad seen as many users as possible, but most of users can not watch  my ad! Most users are watching cheap flash ads, not mine, because they must earn points first! So what is the reason for me to advertise there? No reason. No sence.

And stop calling us cheaters in any page of your website! If you offer 1 ad for 100 sat and another one for 5 sat  -- sure I will watch for 100!  It is not  a cheating. It is just normal choise. Thats why I came to you - to earn 100 sat per view as you promised! So why I am cheater??

Не вели казнить, модератор, не нашли куда пристроить данный пост, поэтому он тут, в корне..
Плюс, нехорошо новичкам постить ссылки, но это не спам, это чтобы не дублировать все страницы блога сюда

Итак, информация в основном для новичков в мире криптовалюты, но именно они и являются главной целью лохотронщиков. И, наверное, именно тут новички и черпают большую часть знаний о биткоине.

Надеемся, им пригодится наш скромный (даже без картинок) блог:

moneygames-ru.blogspot.com

в котором идет речь о самых примелькавшихся и наглых лохотронах и лохотрончиках, которые явно рассчитаны на людей, не обладающих достаточными знаниями, чтобы понять, что их разводят. Может, многие тут посчитают, что и коню ясно, что это развод, но поверьте, очень многие попадаются, а впоследствии разочаровываются в биткоине, думая что биткоин (или форки) сам по себе и есть развод.
Нехорошо это. Поэтому не будет лишним объяснить в который раз.

На данный момент мы постарались разъяснить, в меру своих скромных "объяснительных" способностей, следующие лохотроны (если лень идти по ссылке и читать, просто знайте, что это развод, в названии статей вся суть развода, какими бы сайтами или картинками эту суть не оформляли):

Лохотроны, в которых предлагается зарабатывать на комиссии с транзакций биткоина

Лохотроны, в которых предлагают заработать на обмене криптовалюты или иной валюты онлайн

Лохотроны, в которых предлагают установить расширение blockchain-deductions или подобное

Лохотроны-умножители биткоинов и генераторы биткоинов

Облачный майнинг, он же клауд майнинг (Cloud Mining) - лохотрон или нет?

Пока что все, блогу всего несколько дней отроду, но останавливаться мы не собираемся. Будем пополнять.

Ну и хотелось бы. чтобы эта информация распространялась быстрей, чем распространяется реклама лохотронов. Мы стараемся пускать ее по системам активной рекламы, вроде сео-спринтов и биткоин-буксах, там просто кишит мошенниками, но у лохотронщиков походу денег больше, чем у нас ) Так что хотя бы расскажите своим друзьям-знакомым, уже поможете кому-то.

И Спасибо за внимание!

Well.. We even didnt officially introduce ourself here, but there is a discussion already exist! :-)

Anyway, thanks for your opinions and critics - it is always helpful.

We are not sure ready for big introduction yet, but it seems we must explane a bit about us (to avoid fast "death" of our beginning due to wrong understanding and negative rewiews).

So let us explane:


As you can see, there are no paid advertising on our website (no pop-ups, no push, no paid banners or links, no any paid ads). We dont get paid for advertisement at the moment, maybe later, but it will be not annoing ads, we hate it. That"s why, yes, we placed our referral links, as we play all listed games, and yes, we need some support to keep our website alive... And we need advertise ourself a bit, we are new, nobody knows about us...
And refferal earnings is not much, but if you dont want to give us these some satoshi (not even yours) - you are welcome anyway, you can found the game with us, register not using our link and read our guide if you need it.



Yes, you are right - listed games and faucets pay not much, but we told about it at the main page, as a first info. The main idea is not make you rich fast, we are not HYIP, the main idea is to get reward for time wasted in games.

People play a lot of games. If you play game (any game) - you waste your time in it. Some games need not only your time, but even your money to play it, so you waste your time and your money in such games.

But we want to find other games, which dont want money from you, but will pay you for your time (yes, not a lot, but something is better than nothing).

About mobile, yes, we know, sorry, but our website is still not mobile friendly :-(  We have no big team to work on it, just a few entusiasts, so our development is slow and cheaper than we wants.

But better do slow than do nothing.

Thanks, if you managed to read all of this