A game, and an ICO, the best is yet to come.

If Casinos are legal, why shouldn't there be a Slot crypto game? Why hasn't anyone thought of this before?

LOL, we must have been listening to two different broadcasts. I challenge anyone to listen to it and come up with all those "points" you stated. It sounds more like you're part of the Maza team and am trying to convey a positive message that wasn't conveyed well at all during the broadcast. No regular person would be able to garner that much info from it, but you somehow have a very detailed list of "points" that were supposedly made. Again, I challenge anyone to listen to it and come to the same conclusions that you did. Whatever "points" they talked about were merely glanced over as to retain no serious value for the people listening. Let people listen to it and have them chime in. Maybe I'm totally off-base, but this is my opinion after listening to it. Others may feel differently.

Trying to listen to their live radio discussion is worse than fingers on a chalkboard. They have no clue on how to do it and have no direction on what they're talking about. Payu seems to have a "blame it on others" mentality with why the price is so low. The other "guests" are his friends and cousin and they have no clue on how to address the real issues behind the coin. You couldn't hear Payu for most of the time cause he was mumbling and shuffling around too much. These are the last remaining idiots behind this coin and they show no direction for the coin's future. Pretty sad state of affairs to having the coin being reduced to a few morons glossing over vague issues while not talking about any new plans or direction for the coin. Be glad you didn't listen to this babble.

Yeah, anything in the middle of the night would not be appropriate.

This thread is getting so ridiculous I keep coming back to it every day for the LOLs. When a man brings up where his 13 y/o daughter had a special private party at in order to defend his character and positions on cryptos (i.e., BC specifically), that's when this thread turned into a circus. PT Barnum has arrived!!!!

wrong thread.

Yeah I don't know why the BC community would not like the fact that WC exists. If it's a clone of BC, then why not buy it for SOOOOO much less and take the ride up just like BC did. You're getting the same exact coin for 30 times less the price. Wouldn't you like to have bought BC at 1000, or adjusting for total coins, at 4000?

Either way is fucked up...driving the price down would be may more fucked up of course.

It very well may go up, but I'm reading into the situation differently. To me, he is saying this coin is fuuuuuucked. Their intentions and mission are still honorable, so don't get me wrong there. I have to take what the devs say at face value. To not would raise the question of why invest in a coin in that you don't trust the devs and what they say. So if he's really trying to get people to sell so he or they can get even cheaper coins, well that would be even a worse situation.

In any case, I'm out...again, lol!

I'm gonna agree with this. Why? Because last night I sold off my 3 Mill Maza the minute AP put that latest statement up bashing someone who invested. Before that came out I just invested again in Maza too! I believe in their mission but they suck at so many other things. He basically says that this coin isn't going anywhere for years and anyone who invests in it at these low prices is stupid and gambling. Ok then, I will no longer be a part of it. I've lost a lot in Maza from my first go around but still believe in their mission, which is why I recently reinvested. But I cannot ignore AP's latest statement and what it implies. 

This spoke volumes for me: "after all the endless warnings not too and you are STILL buying?" and "clear publicity problems."

Sounds like to me the Maza teams' sentiment is to not buy or hold this coin. Ok then, I won't!

I like the statement cause it shows their dedication to the project and counteracts any accusations that this is some scam. If it were, wouldn't they do everything in their power to appease the investors (i.e., doing the fork, being available 24/7 for investors, making outlandish claims, etc... ) and then dump all their coins on us? It shows they have guts and determination to stay focused on what their mission is...which is NOT simply to make us money. It's kind of like a tough love relationship.  We want to be comforted and know everything will work out in the end and they are like, "bitch, let me get back to work and handle business." I like that. We should be investing in their goals, purpose and visions for Maza...which are far better than 99% of other Alt coins out there.  

Instead of us looking at the immediate financial reward of a hard fork we should look at the value of their actions and invest in that. There was a massive sell off last month because of their bad actions or in-actions for that matter when people felt misled and there were a bunch of PR problems. So we should equally reinvest when they issue a statement like this...I am.  They are saying what they've been saying, which is they are fighting for Maza each day to make it widely accepted by tribes. That's what I want to hear.  

Think of it this way; we invest in the vision and mission of what Maza can become and in turn the price will go up. We can't just wait for the dev team to make an announcement or a news story to spark us to invest. Maza has a purpose. We all should be happy that the dev team won't cave into what that main purpose is. If that statement doesn't say they are serious about Maza being the future for tribes, I don't know what else will. Tribes should be grateful that the team won't cave into investors' needs. That shows Maza can be a stable, viable currency for them.

I think we will see at least 1k sat within the month of May. I also think that will become the new bottom for this coin and it will only go up from there. I'm snatching up as many as I can at this price. We've tested sub 100 several times already and if the coin was ever going to die than that would have been the time to do it. So being that it didn't die when it hit sub 100 and dropped down to 60 sat, I have to take the whole "this coin is dead theory" and disregard it completely. So when you look at buying right now, there really is no downside and only upside...many, many times over. I think this coin will start gaining momentum and then skyrocket again. There is just too much purpose behind it to do anything but.

Again, if the coin was going to die it would have when we saw that big sell off. The market has spoken that the coin isn't going anywhere so why not invest in something that has little chance of dropping further and a huge chance of gaining in value?

Yeah the sub 100 mark was tested several times yesterday and rebounded nicely each time.

I snatched up some from that dump. Approaching 3 Mill for me. So cheap right now so even if it drops to unrecoverable levels, I don't get hurt too much.

We rebounded really nice after going sub 100 to around 70-80 sat. About 3 BTC sold down to that level. Levels are exactly back to where they were before it happened (around 110 sat). The 100 range does seem to be the true bottom as we tested it with a rather big sell off (relatively speaking of course) and the buy orders brought it back.

We are now sub 100. I had to buy a couple BTCs worth at these prices...they're just too low to not take advantage of. Yes, it is a risk but the rewards could be great. If I'm wrong, I don't get hurt too bad this time around being its only a couple BTCs.

I said it earlier and I'll repost what I said in reference to how the importance of outside valuation is (i.e., from the investors):

I think you're dead wrong with the assumption that the tribe will set the "real price" of the coin, and here's why: Say they have a grocery store and someone wants to buy 1 weeks worth of food with 80 maza lets say, the whole supply chain would have to agree on such a price for it to work. So what this means is the grocery store pays for their supply of goods from outside vendors and distributors, who would have to agree to the maza standard and accept it's worth. Then, they would have to pay the individual food brands who supply the store in maza who would have to pay their workers in maza, etc...   

The whole system breaks down immediately because if I want to buy a loaf of bread with 1 maza lets say, the store who is selling that loaf to me actually paid USD for it from their vendors, and so on and so on. The entire chain of supply would have to acknowledge to a universally standard of what 1 maza is really worth. Otherwise, the store clerk would say, "wait a sec, we just paid $1.50 for this bread in real money and now we're selling it for something worth less than a penny?"

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think adopting a different standard for the worth of maza outside of what the market says is completely pointless, because the supply chain simply won't allow it. Now if you have two people who independently create something and sell/trade with each other, then yes, they can price 1 maza for whatever they want. Once you add in outside factors of the supply chain, then you would have to convince each and every factor to adopt the "real price" according to the tribe.  The supply chain extends to everything you could think of...buildings, streets, schools, food, gas...whatever. Each industry has multiple supply chains and countless companies who agree to the USD value of goods and services. I highly doubt anyone of those checkpoints in the supply chain are going to spend millions of USD on supplies or services and get paid on the backend with the "real value" of maza. Sure, they can get paid with maza, so don't get me wrong there. But the price of each maza will solely depend on USD market value.

So, it truly is the investors who set the price of the coin and not the tribe saying, "No, Maza is worth $1 each on the reservation." It doesn't work that way because 99.9% of the supply chain works outside of the reservation to produce the goods and services to bring into the reservation and as such, it spends USD in doing so.

Again, please correct me if I'm wrong.

I think you're dead wrong with the assumption that the tribe will set the "real price" of the coin, and here's why: Say they have a grocery store and someone wants to buy 1 weeks worth of food with 80 maza lets say, the whole supply chain would have to agree on such a price for it to work. So what this means is the grocery store pays for their supply of goods from outside vendors and distributors, who would have to agree to the maza standard and accept it's worth. Then, they would have to pay the individual food brands who supply the store in maza who would have to pay their workers in maza, etc...  

The whole system breaks down immediately because if I want to buy a loaf of bread with 1 maza lets say, the store who is selling that loaf to me actually paid USD for it from their vendors, and so on and so on. The entire chain of supply would have to acknowledge to a universally standard of what 1 maza is really worth. Otherwise, the store clerk would say, "wait a sec, we just paid $1.50 for this bread in real money and now we're selling it for something worth less than a penny?"

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think adopting a different standard for the worth of maza outside of what the market says is completely pointless, because the supply chain simply won't allow it. Now if you have two people who independently create something and sell/trade with each other, then yes, they can price 1 maza for whatever they want. Once you add in outside factors of the supply chain, then you would have to convince each and every factor to adopt the "real price" according to the tribe.  The supply chain extends to everything you could think of...buildings, streets, schools, food, gas...whatever. Each industry has multiple supply chains and countless companies who agree to the USD value of goods and services. I highly doubt anyone of those checkpoints in the supply chain are going to spend millions of USD on supplies or services and get paid on the backend with the "real value" of maza. Sure, they can get paid with maza, so don't get me wrong there. But the price of each maza will solely depend on USD market value.

So, it truly is the investors who set the price of the coin and not the tribe saying, "No, Maza is worth $1 each on the reservation." It doesn't work that way because 99.9% of the supply chain works outside of the reservation to produce the goods and services to bring into the reservation and as such, it spends USD in doing so.

Again, please correct me if I'm wrong.

lol, I do have mzc...a lot in fact. I'm trying to have an open discussion here. If you feel its best to leave certain questions off the table then I rest my case. I haven't brought up any FUD here, just concerns that I have and that we should all have. Nothing more, nothing less.