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Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
Ton on Telegram after pretending not to know the amount collected. Ton is a liar.
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The total funds raised per currency:
BTC: 1590.919664
LTC: 7807.588
XRP: 1325280.390
ETH: 6477.095
MAID: 765482
DASH: 1916.643
WAVES: 31145.630
DOGE: 23577240.970
ETC: 4126.090
Conversion rates per currency into BTC*:
BTC: 1
LTC: 0.01688190
XRP: 0.00010822
ETH: 0.12242700
MAID: 0.00019581
DASH: 0.07139310
WAVES: 0.00167559
DOGE: 0.00000109
ETC: 0.00760768
Total BTC raised (at these exchange rates): 3055.120324
Total USD raised at the BTC-USD price (Bitstamp): 7790556.826
This means that any price changes for you, as an investor, no longer matter. You can use these numbers to estimate the number of tokens that you will receive.
BTC: 1590.919664
LTC: 7807.588
XRP: 1325280.390
ETH: 6477.095
MAID: 765482
DASH: 1916.643
WAVES: 31145.630
DOGE: 23577240.970
ETC: 4126.090
Conversion rates per currency into BTC*:
BTC: 1
LTC: 0.01688190
XRP: 0.00010822
ETH: 0.12242700
MAID: 0.00019581
DASH: 0.07139310
WAVES: 0.00167559
DOGE: 0.00000109
ETC: 0.00760768
Total BTC raised (at these exchange rates): 3055.120324
Total USD raised at the BTC-USD price (Bitstamp): 7790556.826
This means that any price changes for you, as an investor, no longer matter. You can use these numbers to estimate the number of tokens that you will receive.
There is only remaining 1,140BTC sitting here 36Uh2ine6UzWGPTDYdENqS6pj6Rzx4Q67R
It is funny, in current prices it's 7,3M USD, if they buy back 15M NVST all investors can get ~0.5 USD per token.
Bitcoin magic
Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
@Cool4y is the real hero. He tried to warn all of us, but we didn't listen. There's always some truth to every conspiracy. I disappointed in myself that I didn't cash out when NVO hit $4 in bull run.
Cool4y was not only who spokes truth but he was constantly harassed by band of sock puppets. There are tons of comments calling him "an idiot" or so. I glad to see how the time had point out who are man and who are piece of crap here.
Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
Agreed. I'm a sockpuppet, not the newbie account that's making these claims. msktrader15 1 - Chris! 0. You have won the internet. Everyone looks up to you and your 22 posts. Thanks for stopping by.
Of course you are sock puppet.
Who cares about your Hero member status? Maybe those who hadn't read all of your shitposts.
Someday i'll pick up all of your shitty shill posts with proof links in one single comment. Then everyone could see who actually you are.
Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
I "invested" 8BTC into this so called ICO crowsale so I want my 8BTC back.You can keep the Btrash for yourself as it is only a shitcoin along with all other forks but I would like my Bitcoin as in real bitcoin BTC refunded.
Lol. If you didn't read the OP a year ago then I don't feel sorry for you. Maybe now would be a good time to read into and get to understand what you invested in and how the escrows work in this situation.
Keep your Lol to yourself asshole.Your opinion is as irrelevant as you are.I have read the farcical OP and even the statement about Maidsafe on it breaches the original agreement nullifying any contractual T&C's.Funds released from escrow will legally have to be returned by these clowns to anyone who requests a refund.
Better to not paying attention to piece of shit like Chris also like TSWR, centermissing, radiumsoup (list is not complete) they reveal themselves as a dirty sock puppets and shills.
Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
The truth has been spoken, kudos buddy.
Congrats man, looks like the ice shield is moved finally
Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
Hey investors, you might be interested whats going on with NVO
Since the development details had been classified (by tons of reasons) as super-duper-uber important...
we only can check whats going on with collected funds
Couple months ago i had follow the money from the escrow address (u can find it on first page)
3AiGej11G8jUXvEBPvQKPLiHXC7ruUCp1Z (Final Balance 0.00293019 BTC)
and following the biggest transactions i ended up on this address
3D8LSnVv3DvwkXdmTtAsUzygeQUzpDJcPv (Final Balance 0 BTC)
i remember in june 2018 it contained the round number of 1,313 BTC
Lets take a look to whats happen next
In 28june2018
1,293.962072 BTC was moved to address 3PH6aW83TwXWJXNKXP4fdfAd6eNftfYe65
another 20 BTC was moved to 1w8ULAUvRDoEqTjCupvhjpvfL6PYNLEog where it was split to small fractions and sprayed at bunch of address, and one of that addresses was like 3BMEXaTFuhkGvBpnvyi3iwVmai6MGKWpQH
For those who trade on a BitMex is known that address like 3BMEX.... is the only addresses of this exchange.
So looks like the part of NVO development is supporting trade positions (wth x100 leverage lol) on a BitMex.
Good job guys, good job
Since the development details had been classified (by tons of reasons) as super-duper-uber important...
we only can check whats going on with collected funds
Couple months ago i had follow the money from the escrow address (u can find it on first page)
3AiGej11G8jUXvEBPvQKPLiHXC7ruUCp1Z (Final Balance 0.00293019 BTC)
and following the biggest transactions i ended up on this address
3D8LSnVv3DvwkXdmTtAsUzygeQUzpDJcPv (Final Balance 0 BTC)
i remember in june 2018 it contained the round number of 1,313 BTC
Lets take a look to whats happen next
In 28june2018
1,293.962072 BTC was moved to address 3PH6aW83TwXWJXNKXP4fdfAd6eNftfYe65
another 20 BTC was moved to 1w8ULAUvRDoEqTjCupvhjpvfL6PYNLEog where it was split to small fractions and sprayed at bunch of address, and one of that addresses was like 3BMEXaTFuhkGvBpnvyi3iwVmai6MGKWpQH
For those who trade on a BitMex is known that address like 3BMEX.... is the only addresses of this exchange.
So looks like the part of NVO development is supporting trade positions (wth x100 leverage lol) on a BitMex.
Good job guys, good job
Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
should have sold already and just leave your not doing anything really useful by bitching about how you "think" its a scam.
Better to buy more NVST on DIP right now cuz when devs finally release NVO dexchange you'll get mounthly income based on collected fees. The more token you hold, the bigger your share and income. Also NVST rate will rise to a least tens of dollars ahahhahahahha just shoot me somebody.
Lets be honest, who is an idiot. Those who asking actual questions or trust(or shilling) in a bullshit as above?
UPD That is not necessary to be a bagholder if someone wants to observe whats going on on this project. A good example of gentle scam exit.
Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
Yes we are paid by NVO to keep the facade alive long enough for them to finish their grand exit strategy, along with the escrows who have decided to tarnish their names forever for a share of the crowdsale funds. Its obvious. In fact, its really like oceans eleven and we have been planning this ever since early last year in Tons basement...
You arent going to catch us, there is nothing you can do as we have planned everything out to the t including making it difficult to liquidate tokens.
Very funny, really. Even if it's not a joke. Law of jungles - those who weak and stupid will pay for it, isn't it?
That's one possible approach however especially during end of last year they could get significant investment and boost their dev team like ten times which would lead to stronger product and faster development. This year, there are many DEX projects and it will be much harder, especially for a small (in terms of capital and resources) project like NVO. I believe closest competition for NVO is Exodus wallet/exchange and it is already much bigger beast. I wish NVO the best (still holding few tokens) however it's hard to imagine they will succeed against current competition.
In addition to previous optimistic post from TSRW and countermissing, i must say next:
- deadline of DEX was moved three times from ICO start.
- useless wallet released with half year delay (who will use it and for what?!)
- 60% of collected funds are released from escrow in 2017
- no any evidence of development and no public statements from team
- band of shills/trolls personally attacking any who shows doubts on NVO or mentioned other working DEXes.
Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
First, I wish I was paid by NVO.
Right now the only scam is the one the top 100 are playing in tearing the project up so people sell below ICO price so we can get NVO at an even deeper discount during consolidation. Never thought I would increase my holding by 10x by using fear without paying a dime.
Right now the only scam is the one the top 100 are playing in tearing the project up so people sell below ICO price so we can get NVO at an even deeper discount during consolidation. Never thought I would increase my holding by 10x by using fear without paying a dime.
good luck with Xing your NVST stack
The biggest issue is the team overestimated and instead of fixing the communication they are doing something much "smarter" and that is to let the community burn to the ground so they can re-brand and re-launch a working product.
Srry man, with all respect to you personally, i can only commits those sentences as an "very old song". Since I've read all 150 pages of this tread.I tell TSWR to stop posting updates because all it brings is more people angry and complaints so might as well report nothing.
He doing great job. It keeping us up to date and also clearly shows whats going on.The team is not stupid and they know if they release a product that doesn't work 100% the community will just shit on it like the TSWR updates.
Listen, i never call them stupid. They was smart enough to raise thousands of bitcoins. But in the product delivery aspect they doesn't show any significant evidence of their proficiency.The SEC also made it hard for NVO since it is technically an unregistered security token.
Will see in next 12 month.Now on the topic on if NVO is a scam:
1. Screw all of you that keep comparing NVO to other DEX. You are saying your (insert DEX) is better after the fact, no one knew a year ago your DEX would increase in value and succeed.
Here i agree with you. And i'm not shilling for any other DEX, sorry1. Screw all of you that keep comparing NVO to other DEX. You are saying your (insert DEX) is better after the fact, no one knew a year ago your DEX would increase in value and succeed.
2. How the hell is this a scam if they already got the money? Why bother with updates, Telegram, Slack, and Bitcointalk? NVO doesn't have an endless supply like FUTR and Monkey Capital ICO that depend on a flow of new money, and have you seen the NVST token price?
40% still escrow, its 1400btc +1400bch another twelve millions in today's prices. Imagine what happens when btc takes new ATH?About prices. Just for history i mark it here.
Look at this order dept. If you have 5000+ NVST the average you get is about 17 cents. or 0.000022BTC. The BTC price today is TEN TIMES less than at ICO sale.
https://imgur.com/a/g6GDC1T
*Today XCP/13.10USD/0.00170426 BTC
Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
You are literally the definition of a sockpuppet account. Please log into your main account so we know who we're talking with. Thanks.
Why you quote me with phrases which i never say?
If you are an optimistic investor stay positive in communication.
60% of funds been released, it's 2100 btc or $15M in today's prices. And what positive investors see? Useless releases, lack of PR and communication, and as a consequence low liquidity and very low price (90% of time NVST rate was far low below ICO price).
Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
Read the warnings at the beginning of the year. These guys are paid by NVO to "support" it till the end. It's kinda obvious.
Do the they have a goal to distract investors from real problems? Or they think their reputation still clear and everybody forget about this?
Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
radiumsoup
Seems like you from early days supporting NVO with bright words of optimism. This is a brave act for sure.
On ICO stage people bought 1 NVST per 0.00023333 BTC 1st july 2017 (then It was about $0,55). Adding BCH fork.
And using today's BTC-USD, BCH-USD rates gets potential value of NVST token:
0.00023333btc*7700(current rate)= $1,8 + 0,0002333bch*1100=$0,25 == $2,05
Price backed by collected funds in crypto is equivalent now to $2,05 don't you agree?
Seems like you from early days supporting NVO with bright words of optimism. This is a brave act for sure.
On ICO stage people bought 1 NVST per 0.00023333 BTC 1st july 2017 (then It was about $0,55). Adding BCH fork.
And using today's BTC-USD, BCH-USD rates gets potential value of NVST token:
0.00023333btc*7700(current rate)= $1,8 + 0,0002333bch*1100=$0,25 == $2,05
Price backed by collected funds in crypto is equivalent now to $2,05 don't you agree?
Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
Looks like the circlejerk crew is back ....
Hey Kindest Sir, who cares about kind of my person? We all here crying or fighting for attention, it's a forum. The place for discussion.
Let's talk about subject. Stay stick to project details instead of personal problems, as we not on Psychological forum.
Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended] NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet
Escrows will not release funds to token holders because of delays.
1) What are be right conditions to release escrow funds? Another deadline break?
2) What can we still count as the Escrow funds? Original ICO address 3AiGej11G8jUXvEBPvQKPLiHXC7ruUCp1Z now nave zero balance. Series of transactions from those address ended up on one address 3D8LSnVv3DvwkXdmTtAsUzygeQUzpDJcPv which is now contain 1313 btc. Where is other 2K btc, any information?
In devs pockets obviously that simulate working on this project. Their accomplishment is 30% working wallet, for over a year with millions of budget on their disposal, isn't that absurd? None milestones have been reached. Forget about escrows, they are compromised, no one is getting a refund.
I agree it's an absurd.
Trying to draw the possible scenario for next coming months.
Would they just finally scam exit and disappears? Or continue to spread bs promising to deliver something?
Least possible scenario i guess is the team are commit failure and distribute remain funds between token holders. (and don't forget BCH fork which is add 15% to funds value https://bitcoincash.blockexplorer.com/address/3AiGej11G8jUXvEBPvQKPLiHXC7ruUCp1Z )
Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended] NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet
Escrows will not release funds to token holders because of delays.
1) What are be right conditions to release escrow funds? Another deadline break?
2) What can we still count as the Escrow funds? Original ICO address 3AiGej11G8jUXvEBPvQKPLiHXC7ruUCp1Z now nave zero balance. Series of transactions from those address ended up on one address 3D8LSnVv3DvwkXdmTtAsUzygeQUzpDJcPv which is now contain 1313 btc. Where is other 2K btc, any information?
Please don't waste your brain power on this. The project is in active development, the game is not over at all; just because you do not see much communication from the team does not mean they are not working. Just because they made a deadline months ago and did not meet it does not raise a case for refunds. If they had given a deadline for end of year 2018 would you feel better? If they do not meet 2018 deadline but the project is almost complete should they refund and give up the right for token holders to reap rewards off the exchange? Most people want this to work and want to see a high token value and dividends, as well as a quality exchange. There are a few of you spoiled by projects who give good twitter and hire pr guys who think getting back refund chump change for their tokens is a good idea. Chill out and let the guys do their job.
The narrative of "hard working team" we heard since Nov 2017, when first deadline was broken.
Even if they do all as you said (i personally don't believe in this, but let it stay just my concern) even so, that its not an answer about Escrow funds, why is there only 1,313 btc and not 3,000+ btc?
Why there is no update in pinned post if funds were moved on other escrow address?
Whilst this question still uncleared by team/escrows, any other question really not so important. Don't you think so?
PS: i really have nothing bad against you personally. Hope our discussion will develop in the constructive way.
Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended] NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet
Yesterday you complained in slack that team is not communicating with you ( the insider), here is the proof:
https://i.imgur.com/KyijWZK.png
Your projection of "complaining" is particularly puzzling, since the actual context of the carefully cherry-picked screenshot you took using your PaperNick alt was part of a larger discussion about how much I am impressed with their dedication and work ethic. It wasn't a complaint at all; it was, in fact, quite the opposite. To remind the poor readers subjected to this nonsense: because the developers have been so busy recently, I hadn't heard from them in a while, and thought I would check in with them. When I did, I immediately got a surprisingly large amount of information in a very short amount of time that gave me renewed confidence in their diligence and tirelessness. Kind of like how you yourself are diligent and tireless in propagating half-truths and subjective inferences as if they were established facts - but they provide actual real-world outcomes, unlike your little fists mashing fruitlessly on your keyboard in a misguided effort try and look important to a group of people who largely already dismiss you as psychotic and irrelevant.
As it is, my reputation in the NVO community speaks for itself, and I don't need to lift a finger to defend it in any way. Yours, on the other hand, also speaks for itself, and needs no further effort to expose. We are at an impasse, it seems. I, on the side of rational and clear thought, and you on the side of wild accusations of conspiracy and subterfuge and an irrational fear of being wrong. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You know what? Just few comments back some of you said that devs communicated recently. Unlike you, i provided solid proof that about your lies . And I just NAILED you . What you do is logical fallacies - I provide arguments, you can't handle them and instead attack the poster (me) not the argument. TSWR started digging about me and to make personal threats, isn't that pathetic, you guys are mentally ill and obsessed. I literally EXPOSED your little filthy game. People can scroll back several pages and see all the valid question and concerns, none of which were addressed only swearing. I don't have another account in slack, Papernick is different person, as few months back he was there commenting with me and many others. You see conspiracy everywhere. The truth is project is dead. Look at the facts, 2 months left for DEX release and yet even the wallet is not fixed, no words from the team (what a surprise). There won't be any dividends. You are paid shills in order sustain the dead community ( 5 people in slack literally)
The team does not have the decency to allocate ICO token which were from 1 year ago, this is world record.
I'm leaving you so you can continue pumping the coin and keep dreaming about being millionaires with imaginary dividends
Last quote for today. That was in early January this year.
User Cool4y was alone against army of shills. Now we can see the only proofs of his words.
Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended] NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet
Escrows will not release funds to token holders because of delays.
1) What are be right conditions to release escrow funds? Another deadline break?
2) What can we still count as the Escrow funds? Original ICO address 3AiGej11G8jUXvEBPvQKPLiHXC7ruUCp1Z now nave zero balance. Series of transactions from those address ended up on one address 3D8LSnVv3DvwkXdmTtAsUzygeQUzpDJcPv which is now contain 1313 btc. Where is other 2K btc, any information?
Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended] NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet
Escrows will not release funds to token holders because of delays. Just because one token a guy could have bought is worth more than NVO, just because so and so thinks this such and such dex will be better means absolutely nothing. The truth is NVO underestimated the timeline and that is it. This wallet and dex is much more robust and complex than others out there, it wont happen overnight. These words of truth you are hearing are from the village idiot that most people know is a bit off his rocker. Join forces with him at your own risk!
Look, even if truth in underestimation of developing complexity, we all agree that game is [[almost]] over.
Maybe the most important thing now how to get money back.
If team now commit the failure, those 1313BTC can fully cover fiat losses since 2017. Rough calculation 1,313BTC divided by 15,000,000NVST gives 0.00008753333333 BTC per NVST which is about $0.7 now.
If we imagine the team used to take only 10% of ICO funds, exactly how they promise in whitepaper, than it shall be not 1,313 btc but little more than 3,000 btc in ecrow.
Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended] NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet
this project is a joke..
still aint selling cause im too lazy to do it but i dont expect the exchange to be released anytime soon.
99% sure that neonexchange will be released before nvo and they still havent started with the ico yet
still aint selling cause im too lazy to do it but i dont expect the exchange to be released anytime soon.
99% sure that neonexchange will be released before nvo and they still havent started with the ico yet
It's a joke fore sure, to be more precise it's a complete scam. No exchange will be released, be sure about it. 25 April was the deadline for Versus. The price has fallen 50% in a week.
NEX is going to be the best DEX, they started 1 year later than NVO and will launch before them
NEX has the potential to achieve 50$ in the long run.NEX already has a working MVP. All NVO had was a white paper during their ICO. Believe it or not, I was trying to decide between OmiseGO and this project and I went with this one
I could have bought OmiseGO at 65 cents, but I opted to invest in NVO. OmiseGO is now around $18. NVST is less than 50 cents. I sure can pick winners, can't I?You're not the only one that made a bad choice. These guys mislead and tricked many people into believing them. My worst decision, ever.
Agreed u guyz. Good to hear words of truth here.
Is there any chance that they would refund token hodlers?
If say, to distribute last visible 1313 BTC from here 3D8LSnVv3DvwkXdmTtAsUzygeQUzpDJcPv the address with ICO funds
Re: [ANN][CrowdSale Ended]🌟🌟🌟🌟 NVO Decentralized Exchange | MultiWallet 🌟🌟🌟🌟
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It is not wise to trade with investor's money, and not permitted I am sure.
Not permitted doesn't means its not happened.
Is there any evidence that all the funds are stored at a certain address and have not moved since last year?