Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker
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nameless888
on 16/04/2013, 06:35:24 UTC
It's insane to see this and then imagine what the price of these coins could be even a year away from now. If this goes mainstream it could be one of the last times they ever reach a low price like this. Can't believe I've got no money to buy some for a while yet. (I know I could easily be completely wrong, have just got a weird feeling about this.)
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Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker
Just remember : it doesn't matter how many manipulators out there try to crash this, it only fails if we collectively decide to give up on it. If we keep our faith in it and enough of the currency ends up in stable hands, it means less available for people trying to end it.
What, you think it was worth $250?
w/o the ability to short, there is a key moderating factor for these BS spikes missing
I'm new to this and can't even off the top of my head work out what your post means. (thanks if you can explain a bit though.) I'm just certain that there's groups out there trying to cause problems, and I don't think the currency should naturally be this volatile.
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Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker
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nameless888
on 16/04/2013, 06:22:59 UTC
Just remember : it doesn't matter how many manipulators out there try to crash this, it only fails if we collectively decide to give up on it. If we keep our faith in it and enough of the currency ends up in stable hands, it means less available for people trying to end it.
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Still new to these charts, what do the figures on the right represent? And is the center at the bottom an average of buys and sells which creates the current price?
The sum volume of Bids/Asks.
I think I get it a bit more now, thanks.
As for the whole thing crashing : there's a massive amount of manipulation going on now, surely. The only way it can work is if people ignore all this madness and keep in mind that with more people using it things should get more stable. I mean the banking system for a start : if they want to try to mess up this whole thing, they just use their fiat money that's endlessly printed for them, buy loads of bitcoins, then try to flood and crash the market, right? Or just keep things going up and down all the time so they can work with the media to say that bitcoin is too volatile to be taken seriously.
I think MtGox are the least of our problems when looking at the bigger picture. Banksters are obsessed with controlling the money supply and this is a massive threat to them, (it's on the verge of going mainstream and is possibly the biggest threat to their money making they've faced since ancient times.) and I think they're causing a lot of this. It's annoying because it has so much potential, but needs more people using it to become more stable.
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Still new to these charts, what do the figures on the right represent? And is the center at the bottom an average of buys and sells which creates the current price?
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Re: Armory scanning the whole blockchain every time i start the program
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nameless888
on 16/04/2013, 02:48:20 UTC
Turns out I've been whitelisted for around a day to post in here and I didn't even notice the message saying I was....will teach me to check messages in future.
Have also had issues with armory taking ages with the blockchain, but this was just the first scanning of it. The reason I didn't get any further was because it was taking up so much resources on my laptop (T61 Thinkpad, it has dual core and thought it'd handle something like this easily, but maybe not. First time I've ever had a problem with a program slowing down like this too.) that I just had to stop trying. Couldn't really open firefox or browse properly because the whole laptop was crawling at a really slow pace. That was on windows though, and as I've already said a few times I botched a partition and have lost windows now, so maybe ubuntu will handle it better?
But either way, was just wondering how things are going with making it use less resources, and also if the scanning each time for long periods has been fixed? I'm mainly asking because I've only just started using bitcoin last night (due to partition mess though I lost my first wallet! No bunny run bitcoin bonus this time around...) but for over a week I've been reading up a decent bit and wanted to use this on a raspberry pi for cold storage once I got started after testing bitcoin out, so I knew that things were probably secure (if done properly.) from the off. Without this I don't think there's any other way of having a watching only wallet and that idea just seems like such a great way of doing things.
Thanks if you can let us know how things are going anyway, and I might try this again with ubuntu, because bitcoin-qt seems to load way faster, so maybe armory will also work this time around.
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Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker
Thanks if you can add me too : 16nCQkJRgD9QbqqR3oqHJfNhBm33J8vVex
And thanks for the links! Will try some of them later.
Hi there, you can delete this address as I lost my old wallet when I broke windows, trying to add ubuntu on a partition. (think I added ubuntu to the windows partition instead of the extra space, which was a bonus actually because I'm done with windows now hopefully.) It was no big deal either incase anyone's wondering, just 0.0001 and some other bits after, was just testing for the 1st time, will obviously back up regularly if I start getting into it properly.
Will probably post back with another address when I'm up and running again.
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Re: Help needed : New to Ubuntu, no idea how to install Bitcoin
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nameless888
on 15/04/2013, 19:38:25 UTC
edit : I've done it!
I replaced the last command : sudo apt-get install bitcoin
Kinda funny, you're using the exact same laptop I'm using And I'm also using Lubuntu and can't figure out how the hell to install Bitcoin.
I'm thinking about switching back over to windows.
Gah, hopefully we'll be able to suss it somehow! I really don't want to switch back to windows, I loathe the stupid thing. Besides, I haven't even got a CD to go back! Surely there's a way of doing this.
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Re: Help needed : New to Ubuntu, no idea how to install Bitcoin
Yeah I tried that too but wasn't sure exactly how to do it, sorry I forgot. But you have to remember you're talking to a complete n00b here when it comes to ubuntu. Can you or anyone else post a step by step please, or a link that fully explains how to do it?
in the terminal run this command, to add the bitcoin repo:
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sudo add-apt-repository ppa:bitcoin/bitcoin
and then update:
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sudo apt-get update
and then, to install bitcoin:
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sudo apt-get install bitcoin
Doesn't work, because it needs these files and the pages are down :
This was actually one of the main reasons I didn't switch to linux ages ago. The lack of .exe files for things.
edit : Thanks Coincrazy, but the instructions in that video are the same and it can't find the files due to pages that are down.
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You are about to add the following PPA to your system: Bitcoin and related applications. More info: https://launchpad.net/~stretch/+archive/bitcoin Press [ENTER] to continue or ctrl-c to cancel adding it
E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. nameless@nameless-ThinkPad-T61:~$ sudo apt-get install bitcoin Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done E: Unable to locate package bitcoin
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Re: Help needed : New to Ubuntu, no idea how to install Bitcoin
edit : nope, been there. It's talking about an xterm and I only know of the terminal. Same thing? if so, I've tried each command there and it didn't work. Either that or the bitcoin folder is somewhere and I don't know how to get to it.
edit 2 : it says "Just launch the package manager and install bitcoin-qt" I don't even know what the package manager is, will have to search around again but I think I'm still stuck.
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Re: Help needed : New to Ubuntu, no idea how to install Bitcoin
Yeah I tried that too but wasn't sure exactly how to do it, sorry I forgot. But you have to remember you're talking to a complete n00b here when it comes to ubuntu. Can you or anyone else post a step by step please, or a link that fully explains how to do it?
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Help needed : New to Ubuntu, no idea how to install Bitcoin
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nameless888
on 15/04/2013, 19:04:41 UTC
Hi there.
So I decided I'd check out linux for the first time, and installed the ubuntu 12.10 demo on a USB. It seemed to work well so I thought I'd partition then install it, but I messed up the partition and totally destroyed my windows installation. I'm on a thinkpad T61 with no CD either, so even pressing the thinkvantage button to try to reinstall it failed, but luckily I still had the USB with ubuntu, so here I am after installing it, almost completely clueless and new to ubuntu/linux, but stuck with it.
So I have bitcoin-0.8.1-linux, which took an effort to even extract from the tar.gz, and also the original bitcoin-0.8.1-linux.tar.gz file. Other than that I'm stuffed. Tried using extracting methods via the terminal after searching around a bit, but there's threads from years back with older ubuntu versions, and they're talking about extracting it but the GUI doesn't even show up, and that natty has to be switched to maverick in some area. Please tell me it's easier than that, and please help me get this thing working on linux. Thanks loads of you can help!
I also lost my first wallet.dat but the only thing I'm really going to lose is the bitcoins from 2nd place on bunny run, so not too bad I guess! (on a sidenote, can't people just bypass the 1 a day limit on bunny run by using different wallets/addresses? Surely not right? So how is that prevented?)
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Re: Other decentralized Projects wich could change society
by
nameless888
on 15/04/2013, 01:07:47 UTC
Diaspora is something I've been hoping can change things for quite a while now, but it's moving along fairly slowly. It's a decentralized social network (anyone can set up a pod for others to use.) that if sorted out enough, could really take off. It's currently needing some work done to get it sorted out, but hopefully that'll be done over time. Site is here : https://joindiaspora.com/
I'm a newbie and I get that, but I've spent hours researching bitcoin and am just in the process of getting things started so I can use it. The thing is, I wanted to start with an offline secure wallet using armory and a raspberry pi, but it's hogging my laptop resources and taking ages to do its first scan of the blockchain, and was hoping I could ask etotheipi if :
a) that's being worked on at the moment so the whole thing can be made faster b) if it's going to start using less resources, because it's slowing my thinkpad down to almost a standstill, and it's dual core as far as I remember, have never seen anything slow it down like armory does. c) if it's going to start re-scanning the whole blockchain if I get past the first scan (I've not done that yet, but have tried several times.) or if that problem has been fixed yet, which is what that thread is about.
I'm definitely not spamming anyway, am here to learn how bitcoin works and some of the other programs linked to it, like armory. Thanks if you can let me post in the thread, if not will just wait.