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This is a great idea for a thread. The importance of Amazon accepting bitcoins just can't be overstated.
Here is how my conversation went*:
You are now connected to Alan from Amazon.co.uk.
Me:
Hi, do you accept bitcoins and if not will you consider accepting them?
Alan:
Hi David,
Bitcoin? I'm sorry but I've never heard of that.
Is that like a temporary visa card or does it relate to virtual coins like on facebook?
Me:
it's an e-currency, at the moment one is worth roughly £3.40 but that fluctuates by supply and demand
there are no transaction costs
which should make it reasonably attractive to you I should have thoguht
Alan:
Ah, currently we do not accept e-currencies like this. What is your domestic currency?
Me:
sterling
bitcoin is very different to any other e-currency for a variety of reasons
you can find a bunch of info on it using google
Alan:
Thanks for that, any charges you incur placing an order on our website using a sterling account would relate to your bank, we have no control over that.
Me:
I am talking from your perspective
in that when you accept credit cards and so on at the moment
you have to pay a fee
where as you wouldn't if you used bitcoin
there is no company behind bitcoin, it's all open source
Alan:
thanks for the suggestion, I didn't relaise you were just chatting from our point of view just there.
I can pass on your suggestion to our business team for review.
Me:
I would be pleased if you could, yes
Alan:
I have just looked up bitcoin as we have spoken.
Me:
a good site for learning more about bitcoins with a video they could look at is http://www.weusecoins.com/
Alan:
If the payments are irreversible as far as I can see.
Interesting.
The official bitcoin site als says the process is experimental
http://bitcoin.org/
Either way I'll pass on your feedback, if it proves secure and convenient for customers it will be considered in due course.
Can I help with anything else?
Me:
the client is experimental, but the network itself is running and other merchants are using it
nothing else other than bitcoin - although would you be able to get whatever committee it is that you are passing it on to to respond to me after they have looked at it?
Alan:
The internal teams generally don't do that. If it was something we would take up it would be announced publicly.
Me:
ok, fair does
have a good weekend!
Alan:
you too.
*I'm aware the thing about transaction costs is not strictly correct, but I was out to sell it!
I applaud your effort! =)Here is how my conversation went*:
You are now connected to Alan from Amazon.co.uk.
Me:
Hi, do you accept bitcoins and if not will you consider accepting them?
Alan:
Hi David,
Bitcoin? I'm sorry but I've never heard of that.
Is that like a temporary visa card or does it relate to virtual coins like on facebook?
Me:
it's an e-currency, at the moment one is worth roughly £3.40 but that fluctuates by supply and demand
there are no transaction costs
which should make it reasonably attractive to you I should have thoguht
Alan:
Ah, currently we do not accept e-currencies like this. What is your domestic currency?
Me:
sterling
bitcoin is very different to any other e-currency for a variety of reasons
you can find a bunch of info on it using google
Alan:
Thanks for that, any charges you incur placing an order on our website using a sterling account would relate to your bank, we have no control over that.
Me:
I am talking from your perspective
in that when you accept credit cards and so on at the moment
you have to pay a fee
where as you wouldn't if you used bitcoin
there is no company behind bitcoin, it's all open source
Alan:
thanks for the suggestion, I didn't relaise you were just chatting from our point of view just there.
I can pass on your suggestion to our business team for review.
Me:
I would be pleased if you could, yes
Alan:
I have just looked up bitcoin as we have spoken.
Me:
a good site for learning more about bitcoins with a video they could look at is http://www.weusecoins.com/
Alan:
If the payments are irreversible as far as I can see.
Interesting.
The official bitcoin site als says the process is experimental
http://bitcoin.org/
Either way I'll pass on your feedback, if it proves secure and convenient for customers it will be considered in due course.
Can I help with anything else?
Me:
the client is experimental, but the network itself is running and other merchants are using it
nothing else other than bitcoin - although would you be able to get whatever committee it is that you are passing it on to to respond to me after they have looked at it?
Alan:
The internal teams generally don't do that. If it was something we would take up it would be announced publicly.
Me:
ok, fair does
have a good weekend!
Alan:
you too.
*I'm aware the thing about transaction costs is not strictly correct, but I was out to sell it!
Just need a couple bitcoins, here's some of my feedback:
http://www.bitcoinfeedback.com/viewuser.php?un=nefanon&id=240
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=nefanon&sign=ANY&type=RECV
PM with your paypal email and your offer and if I accept I'll pay it as a "payment of services", NO GIFTS (too risky).
http://www.bitcoinfeedback.com/viewuser.php?un=nefanon&id=240
http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=nefanon&sign=ANY&type=RECV
PM with your paypal email and your offer and if I accept I'll pay it as a "payment of services", NO GIFTS (too risky).
It may not be too soon. Amazon can always roll out a trial for limited purchases like certain 'digital goods' only. They could also limit bitcoin to certain countries with restricted payment options during any such trial. Also, I cannot imagine that Amazon is just ignoring the millions of USD/EUR/GBP/etc that could be saved in VISA/MC/AMEX/PayPal merchant processing fees!
Agreed!In a similar thread in this section I've presented a way to get Bitcoins and paying by Paypal. In order to prevent fraud, a PIN code (free) is sent to the customer's mobile phone. It could be interesting for newbies and people needing immediate bitcoins at a premium.
The thread is at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=38873.0 and so far customers are satisfied
I may be wrong here, however there were times I used to sell on ebay through paypal. From what I got there, the main issue with scammers is not about anonymous guys playing with a bunch of stolen CCs. A person may scam you just because there's an opportunity to do so. He/she could be 100% real, with confirmed address, phone and whatever else. Still if there is a safe and painless way to rollback credit card spendings, many of them will surely go this way. The thread is at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=38873.0 and so far customers are satisfied
The bottomline as I see it - verifying buyer identity, intention and consciousness could never protect from further chargebacks if there's no legal obsticles for a person to perform it.
This is true as well. There are some legit people who learned about bitcoins and buy and dispute.
The case I am currently in dispute with is only for a single bitcoin that I sold at a premium I think the rate was 11 at the time and i sold for $20 maybe even $25.. to a member with plenty of feedback...
This was before I had the idea of the physical book with a unique code in it.
After a week they charged back, I told e-bay it seemed like he was willfully defrauding and showed all communication and screen grabs of the confirmed transaction and blockchain.
The money popped out.. was held... popped in.. they said they are disputing the bank with my evidence. I was surprised.
We shall see.
See my other thread I am starting for those looking to buy and sell coins with paypal
The reliable buyer seller paypal thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=44767.msg534685#msg534685
kind of like the web of trust with out all the insane complication of gpg on #bitcoin-otc which is still loaded with fraudsters
anyway.
- Blackout
How did this turn out?
If you people are really into talking to Amazon support, don't forget to remember them that bitcoin can be a strong competitor to Paypal, which belongs to e-bay, a direct competitor of Amazon. 
+1I also contacted Etsy.com, here's their email response:
Quote
Thank you for writing, as well as for your idea for improving Etsy!
We do realize that many of our members would prefer to submit electronic payments on Etsy without the use of a third party processing service, such as PayPal, and we are currently taking that into consideration. While I can't really tell you when or if such a feature would be put into effect, I can assure you that it's not something we've forgotten. I will definitely pass along your link to our engineers!
Thank you so much again for your suggestion! We really do take member feedback into account when making changes to the site, so it's always nice when someone writes in with ideas.
Let me know if you have any further questions or concerns, and have a nice day!
We do realize that many of our members would prefer to submit electronic payments on Etsy without the use of a third party processing service, such as PayPal, and we are currently taking that into consideration. While I can't really tell you when or if such a feature would be put into effect, I can assure you that it's not something we've forgotten. I will definitely pass along your link to our engineers!
Thank you so much again for your suggestion! We really do take member feedback into account when making changes to the site, so it's always nice when someone writes in with ideas.
Let me know if you have any further questions or concerns, and have a nice day!
He was very slow to respond though, I wonder if he was busy or asking around.
Chat support typically handles multiple conversations at the same time. They may have been dealing with a difficult customer.Yeah I heard they kept asking about this thing called Bitcoin.
lolol
Well, it doesn't look like ThinkGeek is supporting bitcoin anytime soon...
He was very slow to respond though, I wonder if he was busy or asking around.
- Kevin D: Hello! How can I help you today?
- Nefanon: Hi Kevin, I was looking at your payment options and I was curious: Does ThinkGeek plan to offer bitcoin payments in the future?
- Kevin D: We have no plans to offer any other forms of payment at this time.
- Nefanon: Aw, that's disappointing, a lot of geeks are getting into bitcoins and I'd love to share ThinkGeek with the bitcoin community as a supported retailer. Has ThinkGeek heard of bitcoins?
- Kevin D: They have been introduced to us before and at this time there are no plans of using them.
- Nefanon: Ok, cool! Well, I just wanted to make a formal request for ThinkGeek to accept them. It's an awesome technology that I think will only grow and become more popular.
- Kevin D: I will forward that feedback for you.
He was very slow to respond though, I wonder if he was busy or asking around.
This is the real deal. I sent actual bitcoins and received physical products in the mail. Not sure how much better you can get
Thanks
Is there somewhere where I can see updates on the progress of this project? Can you update the 1st post?
EDIT: Found it! (Thanks deslok)
EDIT: Found it! (Thanks deslok)