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Re: [NLG] The even greater Gulden thread!
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negatief
on 30/11/2022, 18:16:33 UTC
Quote from: FlorrinMiner
link=topic=4937333.msg61268493#msg61268493 date=1668067373
Is the florin price below the IPO price?

More people like MUNT, florin is ok for holding but MUNT getting gulden nft early next year.

The problem with MUNT and Florin and will be same with the NFT is blockhut only raises funds from dev funds and nft sales. Blockhut can be cleared of funds and 100s of users waiting to buy which would normally drive the value up but it doesn't. Most of the community don't want to buy on exchanges. When Gulden was on litebit and Nocks the price was higher.

This is why Gulden missed out on the last bull market. We only start to understand how important Nocks was for Gulden, maybe one day a new Nocks will come.



Truth but Nocks did rip off some people in the community with the Ncks token. A community member that was admin on telegram got screwed, when Nocks became a exchange it cost too much for them to maintain so it would not work in the long run. Nocks was much better when it was a broker then when it became a full exchange and started adding other coins and its own token.



The fact that gulden already experienced a microcosmic version nearly 5 years ago of what is now happening with the entire cryptosector tells me that in key ways the entire MUNT/NLG/XFL project, despite "lack of visibility" is actually ahead of the curve in some ways because going forward, less and less people will trust exchanges as a way to acquire and hold their coins despite the continued interest in digital currencies that aren't cbdcs.

 Tether, Gemini, even Binance could eventually pop which would essentially reset the whole market, bitcoin included, providing a brand new basis for the entire industry which could really favor under the radar projects with strong fundamentals, strong tech and the ability to survive without huge amounts of liquidity, which is exactly what munt/gulden/florin represents.

 Once the liquidity does return, the investor saaviness factor will be geared towards finding these exact durable, non-hyped projects of which the entire centure group of coins could very well set the new standard for the future of adoption.

Just look at the respective supply ratios compared to other very recent, overly hyped defi/smartcontract/tokenomics projects that will all continue to collapse if more exchanges melt down. Meanwhile, None of these centure coins are exposed to these outsized risk factors with exchange meltdowns like virtually all of the currently still frothy evaluations of the top 100 in CMC.
 It is not out of the realm of possibility to see these three offerings really set a higher quality bar for digital asset investments in the next 2-5 years.

Bitcoin was started in 2008, all crypto bear markets occurred when the normal markets were doing fine. What do you think is coming for stocks, housing,  businesses etc in 2023? We will have a crypto bear market with a global recession for the first time. It's not going to be pretty.

The 100 million premine will have to be sold on the exchanges to cover costs for centure as less people will have money to buy into crypto. The community will have to split their investments into 3 different centure projects and pray for the best. The 100 million premine looks to be dropping fast and I am willing to bet another 100 million premine will be needed to cover costs.





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Re: [NLG] The even greater Gulden thread!
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negatief
on 05/05/2022, 06:28:41 UTC
Florin will be pumped before end of the year. New 100 million Gulden premine coming. Rijk has well known people invested in Florin and can't mess it up, this is the only way to create value for Florin and his own Florin investment.

Buy Florin and market the Gulden premine in the netherlands,  use the funds to buy Florin. Florin will be a good investment this year if enough investors buy the gulden premine.

Where is the evidence of this happening? Please post all pertinent information.

Didn't you see it? Right above the text discussing the amount of the next dev block reward after the new @jonnydepps postmine is implemented.
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Re: [NLG] The even greater Gulden thread!
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negatief
on 03/05/2022, 06:07:49 UTC
Florin will be pumped before end of the year. New 100 million Gulden premine coming. Rijk has well known people invested in Florin and can't mess it up, this is the only way to create value for Florin and his own Florin investment.
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Re: [NLG] The even greater Gulden thread!
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negatief
on 30/03/2022, 09:56:53 UTC
For Factchecker_NL

Why will I invest in a coin where the investor has to do the work and invest but investors have there own work to do. When I have invest in stocks or other cryptos like HEX it's not expected that I work to make the company or crypto a success.
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Re: [NLG] The even greater Gulden thread!
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negatief
on 29/03/2022, 14:49:51 UTC

These funds already raised for an exchange, Rijks close followers Jason, Martin, Robby and Bart use delay tactics because these funds will be used for development. Rijk must of made a deal with the florin premine investors that Gulden will pay for the development.

Below is the funding raised for a exchange listing and always excuses for it not to be used on exchanges.
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/bc1qzeutgh895tj9wzpdt6kg50pcmeguk4ddp0tj82

Those funds were raised 90% by dev rewards. At the time price was over 2 cents and there was an excess of funds coming in. Gab and Rijk decided to put it into btc. Which in hindsight was a great decision because if it was kept in Gulden then it would be worthless now.

The funds were raised for a specific exchange: Bitvavo. For a NLG Euro pair. Using those funds for a exchange like XT makes no sense.

It does not make sense for Florin either but when users look at coinmarketcap and see more exchange they will have more confidence to invest.
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Re: [NLG] The even greater Gulden thread!
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negatief
on 29/03/2022, 07:16:11 UTC
I have just indicated to the GAB that I will no longer strive for a new Gulden or an adjustment of the current Gulden. It costs me too much energy and I can't think of a good solution, maybe I'm just completely wrong and it's good as it is. I will therefore no longer post texts about a whale problem or anything in that direction.

However, one challenge remains and that is budget for development. I don't know how we can solve that, but it is a problem.

Thanks for everyone who contributed to the discussion in any way. All input has been useful to me. The discussion was fierce and unfiltered, especially on my part. That's who I am and I can't pretend otherwise, also because I see others as equal and experience it that way, since the responses my way are harsh as well. Which I have no problem with. It's not a contest, but if it was, the opponents won. Congratulations and thanks for pushing your point of view.

Take out 25-50% of the remaining dev reward as a premine, adjust the dev reward down by 25-50%. Won't this solve the development fund shortage and give the coin time to get back on track?

I want Gulden to succeed as much as you but don't want to be thrown under the bus because of low lives that have nothing better to do





Best would be if large holders pay for development and no dev reward is needed.

Best for large holders to pay for exchanges and keep the dev reward. Take a hint from the florin investors giving money for a new exchange listing and not reserving the money towards development.

More exchanges higher price and these whales can't have it easy when bigger whales take over and your dev reward becomes more valuable.

Any one with common sense can see the double standards on display






These funds already raised for an exchange, Rijks close followers Jason, Martin, Robby and Bart use delay tactics because these funds will be used for development. Rijk must of made a deal with the florin premine investors that Gulden will pay for the development.

Below is the funding raised for a exchange listing and always excuses for it not to be used on exchanges.
https://www.blockchain.com/btc/address/bc1qzeutgh895tj9wzpdt6kg50pcmeguk4ddp0tj82
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Re: [NLG] The even greater Gulden thread!
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negatief
on 27/03/2022, 05:57:55 UTC
Rijk says the wallets will stop working if there is no development,  is this true? This is related to funding running out.

That is a lie, wallets and blockchain will still run but no new development. Another Dutch coin efl blockchain still works and hasn't updated in 7 years. 90% of the coins have no development and the blockchains work.

Because of Novo and florin gulden hasn't had a update in 2 years besides reduced max supply and reward halving and the blockchain still works.

By right Florin should he paying all development costs, florin had a new wallet update 2 weeks ago.



The story comes together. I smell desperation because without Gulden supplying him development funds , florin has no development or he is forced to sell his florin premine. This is why i see no big buy orders and when one biggish buy order came on the market at 300000 is was sold quickly.
I can see the pressure on the florin market and trading in the 200000 - 280000 but Rijk keeps saying how people are holding. My better judgment is telling me he is telling others to hold while he can sell the premine.
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Re: [NLG] The even greater Gulden thread!
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negatief
on 26/03/2022, 13:20:19 UTC
Rijk says the wallets will stop working if there is no development,  is this true? This is related to funding running out.
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Re: [NLG] The even greater Gulden thread!
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negatief
on 26/03/2022, 07:28:36 UTC
The lower the Florin price falls the less chance of the community accepting a new coin. First large buy order was dumped on yesterday which shows large holders are planning to exit.

From what I see as Rijks yes men, Bart and Robbie are aiming to dissolve the GAB and this will lead to decisions that will become more centralized and less resistance for Rijk to make changes.
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Re: [NLG] The even greater Gulden thread!
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negatief
on 25/03/2022, 10:26:09 UTC
Don't go buy a lot of Gulden or Florin if you not a influener yourself or it will end badly for you.

This must be the dumbest thing i read on here fore a while, and that is an achievement because there is a lot of dumb sh*t being said on here in the past :-)


Before claiming it's the dumbest thing you've read, think about it.

Rijk has admitted it's up to the community or whoever invests to make the coin successful outside of development, if I buy 20% of the florin supply and I know I can't put any effort into it's success how much motivation is there with the other 80% who own coins?
What if a few own 50% and they investors like me, who is going to go to conferences, do promoting etc to make my investment successful.

With coins like HEX as another poster mentioned, you have Richard Heart doing all that promotional work and a development team which = less risk for investors as you have a team driving it's complete success.

Florin and Gulden have a dev team but no one is driving it's success, it's up to us and I can't so I would rather invest in other coins that have a complete plan.



Rijk looks to be settled on a Anarchy style for Gulden and in real life this does not work because someone will rise up to be a leader. I notice Rijk is pressing for a solution he likes on starting a new coin for Gulden because without him involved in the conversation I don't see any changes made without a leader.

Rijk doesn't give a shit, he only wants a new premine to support Florin and he will have to rush a decision soon because it will take time for the developers to get the new premine scheme moving. He can't let Gulden go because he needs it to support his turbo dumpwhale status in florin.


 

The thought has crossed my mind because Rijk says he has no Gulden, he will then have all his crypto wealth in Florin, therefore its not beyond the realm of imagination that his only interest is a new premine for his interests in Florin.
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Re: [NLG] The even greater Gulden thread!
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negatief
on 24/03/2022, 10:56:53 UTC
Don't go buy a lot of Gulden or Florin if you not a influener yourself or it will end badly for you.

This must be the dumbest thing i read on here fore a while, and that is an achievement because there is a lot of dumb sh*t being said on here in the past :-)


Before claiming it's the dumbest thing you've read, think about it.

Rijk has admitted it's up to the community or whoever invests to make the coin successful outside of development, if I buy 20% of the florin supply and I know I can't put any effort into it's success how much motivation is there with the other 80% who own coins?
What if a few own 50% and they investors like me, who is going to go to conferences, do promoting etc to make my investment successful.

With coins like HEX as another poster mentioned, you have Richard Heart doing all that promotional work and a development team which = less risk for investors as you have a team driving it's complete success.

Florin and Gulden have a dev team but no one is driving it's success, it's up to us and I can't so I would rather invest in other coins that have a complete plan.



Rijk looks to be settled on a Anarchy style for Gulden and in real life this does not work successfully.
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Re: [NLG] The even greater Gulden thread!
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negatief
on 22/03/2022, 14:39:33 UTC
For me it's fascinating concept, in practice I don't see it working because of indecision. Like this new topic can take the community 2 years to decide on a path unless Rijk or another starts pushing for results in a centralized way. I am waiting to see the results in action.
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Re: [NLG] The even greater Gulden thread!
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negatief
on 22/03/2022, 07:10:20 UTC
Rijk thanks for talking about bitcointalk in lounge. I didn't want to express my opinion on slack because I will look dumb and this forum I feel I can be more open with my thoughts.

Tomu thoughts is the same impressions I had, as a crypto newbie I had no idea we had to help make Gulden work if we invest in Gulden. It's true I didn't understand the concept of decentralization and as a guy that has his own life, family and work I can't do much
besides promote to people in my circle. The problem I find is most of these people are in my shoes where they can't contribute to Gulden by creating development,most know less about crypto then I do and I don't know a lot.

Is it possible to add to Gulden.com before people buy that they must contribute if they make an investment, if this was communicated better you will have less problems but understand it will scare people away if they have to work on it when they don't understand it.
It's why it's easy to scam people in this industry.

For young people who have a lot of free time and can code, Gulden is the perfect coin because of it's low value and can help turn Gulden into a gem. This might be your target audience , developers without work and you can use the premine to pay them.

Speaking for myself I am useless as a investor to this coin because I don't add value besides my purchases on bitcoinmeester before Gulden was delisted.

I got advise from a younger work college to invest in Hex last year and that is a coin where you can invest and pray the people behind it are not scammers. With this coin the community is not asked to do work when they invest and my small investment is up over 1000%. For people in my shoes coins like this are more attractive because no work is required from us. Most people have their own lives to lead and don't have time to help out in a practical way.