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Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - Working Beta - Launches June 7th, 2015
Now I am having a problem sending coins back and forth to my wallets. 2 wallets are giving me -" Error calling /wallet/send "malformed amount" when I hit send? I have tried both old and new addresses, and get that error message. So basically cannot send any coins from 2 test SIA 3.3.2 wallets.
EDIT: Just did create new address and still get that error message? any ideas? May try to go back to 3.3.1 and see if I can get to my coins.
EDIT: Just did create new address and still get that error message? any ideas? May try to go back to 3.3.1 and see if I can get to my coins.
Sorry, that was a foolish oversight on my part. The binaries have been patched to fix this issue.
(for those who are curious, it was because the UI was sending the amount in scientific notation, like 1e27. This used to be supported by siad, but not anymore. Floating point is dangerous when you're dealing with money!)
Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - Working Beta - Launches June 7th, 2015
But SIA still does not let me announce... So it would seem the problem lies with SIA?
Taek, any take on this? My ISP will see if they can update my firmware so maybe that could do something and SIA will also work after that, but I will let you all know how that turns out...
If it makes you feel any better, you are not the only one who has had this problem. If canyouseeme.org can find your service, then it's probably a problem with Sia.
There is a chance that you've put in the wrong local ip address. For example, one of the computers on our network is 10.0.0.35, one is 10.0.0.26, etc. They are all on different endpoints, perhaps you've selected the wrong endpoint.
My router shows the IP for that PC on the connected equipments list. Also when I run ipconfig on that same PC it tells me IPv4 Address is that same one. So that has to be the correct local IP right? What else could it be?
I'm really curious as to why people are having these problems. Most of our testing is done on Linux so it could be a Windows problem. Hard to say for sure if I can't reproduce it locally.
Maybe until we have UPnP support we should just add a "--force" option that allows you to announce even if Sia doesn't think you're reachable. I'm not sure that's a great idea though.
Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - Working Beta - Launches June 7th, 2015
We're building a platform called 'Sunfish' which will make sharing and tagging files a lot easier. The early version of that will be ready in July.
Sunfish is going to be an open source file tracker, anybody is going to be able to run their own sunfish server, and the GUI will have support for pointing at custom sunfish instances.
Would it be possible to put sunfish into the wallet and build it using sia so it too is decentralized? Otherwise centralized file trackers could lead to possible censorship.
It's not hard to envision a DHT where you ask your peers for the file with a given hash, etc. But as of now there are no plans to add such functionality. Separate servers are nice because they can be completely separate from Sia, whereas a DHT would essentially require that we force peers to "opt-in" by default, or else risk low participation.
Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - Working Beta - Launches June 7th, 2015
Question:
Would you rather have the wallet go into your home (C:/Users/You/.hidden/Sia) folder, or do you like it with the executable? Either way we're going to be adding a siac call (and perhaps a memo to the 'about' page) that tells you where your wallet.dat file is being kept. The big advantage to putting the wallet.dat in the home folder is that you don't have to fret if you delete the folder with the executable, and you don't have to worry about losing it when you upgrade.
We can do it either way, I'm curious what you guys think is best. I'm personally leaning towards the home folder because I don't want people to lose their coins. (As an alternative, we could put a backup in the install folder, and keep the primary next to the executable)
Would you rather have the wallet go into your home (C:/Users/You/.hidden/Sia) folder, or do you like it with the executable? Either way we're going to be adding a siac call (and perhaps a memo to the 'about' page) that tells you where your wallet.dat file is being kept. The big advantage to putting the wallet.dat in the home folder is that you don't have to fret if you delete the folder with the executable, and you don't have to worry about losing it when you upgrade.
We can do it either way, I'm curious what you guys think is best. I'm personally leaning towards the home folder because I don't want people to lose their coins. (As an alternative, we could put a backup in the install folder, and keep the primary next to the executable)
I like the home folder option. With this option I don't need to worry about updating or losing my wallet or blockchain (assuming blockchain is there too) every time when updating the client. When blockchain gets bigger in the future, it could take long time to download.
The assumption is that you would update by running an updater, which wouldn't overwrite your wallet.dat or blockchain.
Still, it would be easy for an uninformed user to accidentally wipe out their wallet.dat.
I think automatically backing up the wallet.dat to another location is a good compromise.
(The advantage of keeping the wallet.dat alongside the executable is that it makes Sia completely portable).
Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - Working Beta - Launches June 7th, 2015
Why different addresses in sia wallet and checking http://127.0.0.1:9980/miner/status? Normally this?
When you view your wallet, it generates a new address that you can use to receive money. The wallet is able to generate new addresses on demand.
When the miner runs, it asks the wallet to generate a new address for it to "mine into." So even though the addresses are different, they both point to the same wallet.
Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - Working Beta - Launches June 7th, 2015
Can someone tell me, how to send Sia via "siac" ?
"siac help" should tell you all you need to know.
siac is organized by subcommands. The wallet subcommand is "siac wallet". You can get help specifically with wallet commands with "siac help wallet".
Specifically, you can send money with "siac wallet send [amount] [address]". Note that the amount can be in exp. notation, e.g. 5e27. Also note that the amount is in base units, not SC or KS (5e27 = 5KS).
When everyone refers to Siafunds, what is that referring too? The amount of KS .... or more? confused.
Siafunds are assets that were sold in our crowdfund last year to fund initial development of Sia. They entitle the owner to receive a portion of all host income. i.e. they generate passive income. More info at http://www.siacoin.com/sianotes.html
Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - Working Beta - Launches June 7th, 2015
I love how David put it that mining is a necessary evil. Remember Siacoin was intended as proof of storage.
But apparently that is very difficult to do with high security and reliability. So these guys are pretty smart and
used proven bitcoin tech which still isn't broken in 6 years for consensus to fuel the real tech behind Sia which is
storage renting.
Altcoin miners range from skilled technical people to simple kids. But they all have in common they mine for free
money and have little interest or vision. Sia will have asics like bitcoin and the miner will go away just like
the altcoin mining market will die eventually. Main stream will never use litecoin let alone litecoin clones. Mining
is just so dumb and not the future of adopted crypto currency. Smart contracts will help some coins reach the
holy grail of adoption and market cap not gpu mining lol.
Maybe a storage coin will come out with proof of storage one day but will you trust it? How many years will it
take before you're pretty sure its not broken and you lose all your coins and files. Even if they do manage to do it
thats great for them but Sia will already be out for a while and people will hopefully have fallen in love with storing
their files on its network.
I have siafunds and I mined some and I'll probably buy some more but the thing to remember is its not a
to da moon coin. The value of siacoin should not be fueled by speculation. It should and always will be
tied to the price of cloud storage. How much is it worth it to you to store your files on a decentralized network?
Thats how much you'll pay and thats how much a siacoin will be worth. In the beginning there will be trading
and speculation but after a while there will really be no point in staring at coinmarketcap eveyday. Siacoin will
move in relation to the storage market which people will always need.
But apparently that is very difficult to do with high security and reliability. So these guys are pretty smart and
used proven bitcoin tech which still isn't broken in 6 years for consensus to fuel the real tech behind Sia which is
storage renting.
Altcoin miners range from skilled technical people to simple kids. But they all have in common they mine for free
money and have little interest or vision. Sia will have asics like bitcoin and the miner will go away just like
the altcoin mining market will die eventually. Main stream will never use litecoin let alone litecoin clones. Mining
is just so dumb and not the future of adopted crypto currency. Smart contracts will help some coins reach the
holy grail of adoption and market cap not gpu mining lol.
Maybe a storage coin will come out with proof of storage one day but will you trust it? How many years will it
take before you're pretty sure its not broken and you lose all your coins and files. Even if they do manage to do it
thats great for them but Sia will already be out for a while and people will hopefully have fallen in love with storing
their files on its network.
I have siafunds and I mined some and I'll probably buy some more but the thing to remember is its not a
to da moon coin. The value of siacoin should not be fueled by speculation. It should and always will be
tied to the price of cloud storage. How much is it worth it to you to store your files on a decentralized network?
Thats how much you'll pay and thats how much a siacoin will be worth. In the beginning there will be trading
and speculation but after a while there will really be no point in staring at coinmarketcap eveyday. Siacoin will
move in relation to the storage market which people will always need.
Thanks grandpa_seth. It's refreshing to see that at least some people understand our vision.
Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - Working Beta - Launches June 7th, 2015
For those confused about updating versions and what not Sia is not an install. The folder you unzipped to is your install directory.
Yes That is one huge plus with this software. Basically it is a portable program, but If I am thinking right? when you run SIA wallet from a flash drive etc., it will create a UI folder in apps/roaming on the host computer.
I'm thinking we ought to leave the wallet folder where it is in the main working directory. Not reside in the roaming UI folder, if I am reading it all correctly
Yes That is one huge plus with this software. Basically it is a portable program, but If I am thinking right? when you run SIA wallet from a flash drive etc., it will create a UI folder in apps/roaming on the host computer.
I'm thinking we ought to leave the wallet folder where it is in the main working directory. Not reside in the roaming UI folder, if I am reading it all correctly
Yes, Sia is completely portable. It does not create any folders in Roaming or elsewhere, only subdirectories alongside the siad program. (EDIT: Sia-UI might create a Roaming folder, but if it does it doesn't contain anything important)
I'm interested in what other people think about this though. There are two options: 1) keep everything inside one folder, or 2) spread it out into Roaming/homedir/etc. (Bitcoin takes the latter approach)
The advantage of 1) is that it's very clear where everything is on-disk. It's easy to backup your entire Sia install or move it to a new computer without having to copy your wallet.dat separately.
The advantage of 2) is that you can overwrite the wallet program without having to worry about losing your wallet.dat (and the blockchain db, which is less important but a pain to re-download). Whereas in 1) we'd have to create an install script that would copy the wallet.dat for you so that unsuspecting people don't accidentally overwrite all their money.
Basically, 1) seems harder on the programmer and 2) seems harder on the user. So personally I'm in favor of 1), but I'm interested in hearing the opinions of people who are more familiar with Bitcoin and other wallet programs.
Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - Working Beta - Launches June 7th, 2015
Open a command prompt, go to the directory where you had Sia (the graphical exe), and run siad in this command prompt; leave it open.
Then open another command prompt, run "siac status" (might take a couple seconds for the daemon to start.) Check block height - run "siac sync" to order the daemon to sync, and use "siac status" again to see if the block height goes up.
Then open another command prompt, run "siac status" (might take a couple seconds for the daemon to start.) Check block height - run "siac sync" to order the daemon to sync, and use "siac status" again to see if the block height goes up.
more to the point, "siac gateway" will show you if you have any peer connections. If you have no connections you're outta luck.
Taek pointed out that v0.3.2 was still the testnet, not the fullnet. So those coins are no good now, sorry.
Can someone answer please why this is not on an exchange yet?
no need to shout lol. We're working with an exchange right now, just need to implement some API calls to support their platform: https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia/issues/576
Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - Working Beta - Launches June 7th, 2015
I know where the wallet file is, but copying it into the newer version wallet folder DOES NOT WORK. That is what many of us are complaining about. My coins are trapped in v3.2, which is not functioning properly so I cannot send the coins to the newer version that way either.
Hmm. The wallet.dat layout has changed since v0.3.2, but there should be code to load it into a v0.3.3 wallet. I'll look into it.
Generally speaking, v0.3.2 is incompatible with v0.3.3; the network protocol changed, so you won't be able to connect to peers.
I was able to upgrade from 0.3.0 b365 to the 0.3.3 b372 version by just copy pasting the wallet folder. So maybe you could try and upgrade to that version then the newest one. I did run the new wallet first let it make new wallet files then I OVERWRITE those files and it worked for me.
To clarify, the proper upgrade procedure is:
1) unzip the new Sia-UI
2) close the old Sia-UI
3) copy the old wallet/ folder from the old Sia-UI/Sia folder into the new.
4) run the new Sia-UI
Apologies if this was not very clear. We're working on making updates much easier (i.e. just click a button and restart Sia-UI). It's already possible to update siad in this way, but not Sia-UI.
Just in reference to this - that's not a joke - I copied an address wrong (missed the last two digits, cause it wrapped in my terminal, which had been in a screen session at the time, causing the newline to be copied) and send 20MSia to oblivion.
yeesh. I'm surprised the send did not return an error though. It should fail if you supply an address that is not long enough.
Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - Working Beta - Launches June 7th, 2015
Has anyone actually uploaded files??? I've uploaded a couple but it needs to clear 6000 blocks first before it uploads?
"6000 blocks remaining" is the duration of the file contract, i.e. the minimum time that the data needs to be available. Your files should be available as soon as the upload % reaches 100.
Can you imagine some people eventually uploading their movie file collections and music and work and data backups,,,,, wow let hope this concept fly's!!!
Ill make some storage room lol for a fee
But it will have to stay competitive with normal cloud services and fees. I think that is what will determine the SIA coin price when the dust settles. It may be more than just about price however for some. Some may pay more for a decentralized storage. we'll have to wait and see.
Ill make some storage room lol for a fee
But it will have to stay competitive with normal cloud services and fees. I think that is what will determine the SIA coin price when the dust settles. It may be more than just about price however for some. Some may pay more for a decentralized storage. we'll have to wait and see.
Our goal is to be cheaper than traditional cloud storage services. The theory is that the average person renting out their hard drive has no overhead costs: no massive server room, no dedicated 10Gbps fiber connection, etc. So their margins can be smaller.
btw, the latest release is out (v0.3.3.1). Should fix the miner stability issues. Download from www.siacoin.com as usual.
Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - Working Beta - Launches June 7th, 2015
for 1 LTC i will keep post this news on other forums and keep replying using different accounts too promote this
Please don't.
Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - Working Beta - Launches June 7th, 2015
I got this error with the wallet on win 32 and win 64?
sia.exe Entry Point Not Found
The procedure entry point SetCurrentProcessExplicitAppUserModelID
could not be located in the dynamic link library shell32.dll
sia.exe Entry Point Not Found
The procedure entry point SetCurrentProcessExplicitAppUserModelID
could not be located in the dynamic link library shell32.dll
sounds like your windows resources may have been corrupted. Try running "sfc /scannow" from an administrative command prompt, then run Sia again.
Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - Working Beta - Launches June 7th, 2015
nice work on sia, but when will the next GUI wallet be released? Also when is the desktop integration like dropbox coming out?
We are taking the (copious amount of) feedback we've received into account and working on the next release around the clock. We hope to have it out by the end of the week.
Desktop integration is probably a long ways off. First and foremost, the platform needs to stabilize a bit, more hosts need to join, etc. Furthermore, desktop integration is not a simple task; on Mac/Linux, we'd probably use FUSE, and on Windows we might look at file system events to trigger uploads/downloads. I haven't worked out the details yet because we've had more pressing concerns.
Hmm. It's possible that you need to open the port on your firewall as well. Failing that, the only thing I can think of that would prevent connectivity is that the timeout for the test is only 1 second. If your latency is so high that it's taking more than a full second to ping yourself, you may see the "cannot announce" error.
I will extend the timeout in the next release. In the meantime, I can create a special win64 binary with an extended timeout. Let me know if you're willing to test the fix.
I will extend the timeout in the next release. In the meantime, I can create a special win64 binary with an extended timeout. Let me know if you're willing to test the fix.
Ho, forget to tell, I also tried with firewall off and I still get the error. So firewall is not the cause.
I would test the fix.
ok, I changed the timeout to 20 seconds. Please test this binary (wait for the full 20 seconds) and let me know if the problem persists: www.siacoin.com/dist/Sia-HostTest-win64.zip
If you are using the UI, you will need to replace the copy of siad in your Sia-UI/Sia folder with the one in this binary. Alternatively, you can test it from the command line with "siac host announce".
Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - Working Beta - Launches June 7th, 2015
In order to become a host, peers need to be able to connect to you on your host port. If you're behind NAT (and most of you are), you need to set up port forwarding on your router. Most routers have a web interface available at 192.168.0.1 or 10.0.0.1 where you can configure port forwarding. There are lots of guides for how to do this, e.g. www.portforward.com.
You can use this site to test your connectivity: http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports
Enter your host port (default is 9982) and hit "Check." If it says that the port is closed, you cannot become a host until it's open.
Port forwarding is a pain and it would be nice if you didn't have to do it. This is where technologies like UPnP and NAT-PMP come in: they automatically forward your ports so you don't have to monkey around in your router settings. We are working to add UPnP to an upcoming release, but we don't have a precise ETA yet.
You can use this site to test your connectivity: http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports
Enter your host port (default is 9982) and hit "Check." If it says that the port is closed, you cannot become a host until it's open.
Port forwarding is a pain and it would be nice if you didn't have to do it. This is where technologies like UPnP and NAT-PMP come in: they automatically forward your ports so you don't have to monkey around in your router settings. We are working to add UPnP to an upcoming release, but we don't have a precise ETA yet.
Why do I also get this annouce error? But both port 9981 and 9982 on my computer are correctly forward and pass the test of that webpage. Any possible reasons? Thanks for helping.
Hmm. It's possible that you need to open the port on your firewall as well. Failing that, the only thing I can think of that would prevent connectivity is that the timeout for the test is only 1 second. If your latency is so high that it's taking more than a full second to ping yourself, you may see the "cannot announce" error.
I will extend the timeout in the next release. In the meantime, I can create a special win64 binary with an extended timeout. Let me know if you're willing to test the fix.
Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - Working Beta - Launches June 7th, 2015
I'm getting this error when setting up space to lease on hosting tab of 0.3.3:
Error calling /host/announce : host address not reachable; ensure you have forwarded port 9982
Think we all are seeing that for the most part. I think the dev mentioned a fix for that coming, somewhere in the thread lolError calling /host/announce : host address not reachable; ensure you have forwarded port 9982
In order to become a host, peers need to be able to connect to you on your host port. If you're behind NAT (and most of you are), you need to set up port forwarding on your router. Most routers have a web interface available at 192.168.0.1 or 10.0.0.1 where you can configure port forwarding. There are lots of guides for how to do this, e.g. www.portforward.com.
You can use this site to test your connectivity: http://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports
Enter your host port (default is 9982) and hit "Check." If it says that the port is closed, you cannot become a host until it's open.
Port forwarding is a pain and it would be nice if you didn't have to do it. This is where technologies like UPnP and NAT-PMP come in: they automatically forward your ports so you don't have to monkey around in your router settings. We are working to add UPnP to an upcoming release, but we don't have a precise ETA yet.
Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - Working Beta - Launches June 7th, 2015
Granted, I know there has to be many man hours involved.
Is it possible to release a clean ready to mine" wallet with just the CPU mining activated again? as an option? seems there is no reason why not? Better to have many small miners stay involved and pull interest that way.
Is it possible to release a clean ready to mine" wallet with just the CPU mining activated again? as an option? seems there is no reason why not? Better to have many small miners stay involved and pull interest that way.
I guess I don't see the harm in it. I've made a special Windows 64-bit release with the miner view re-enabled: https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia-UI/releases/download/v0.3.3-beta/Sia-UI-v0.3.3-beta-win64-CPU.zip
gpu miner after a bit of time says "curl did not receive enough bytes", restart it, mines 50 blocks per second :-D
need to restart wallet to make it work again.
need to restart wallet to make it work again.
The GPU miner seems to be glitching out a bit right now. It's reporting way more blocks than it's actually mining. Seems to be related to the difficulty changing. We're looking into it.
Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - Working Beta - Launches June 7th, 2015
Weird, just reinstalled SIA 3.3 beta and my Glasswire picked it up as Electron? connection any ideas? previous installs it showed the connection as SIA
yes taskmanager shows it as electron as well. Really shows the lack of effort put into the release
I agree, it's a bit unprofessional. Fixing this requires modifying the Windows binary with a tool like ResEdit, and we do all our development on Linux (for now). I think it's pretty apparent that going forward, we need to focus on the Windows experience because that's where most of our users are.
However, I think the word you want is polish, not "effort."
We have poured many thousands of man-hours into Sia, but first and foremost we have focused on the core technology, not the look and feel of the application. Rest assured, this will be our top priority for the next few weeks.Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - Working Beta - Launches June 7th, 2015
v0.3.2 will not be able to mine on the fullnet. You need v0.3.3.
Mining has been disabled from the UI, but can still be done using the "siac" command-line utility packaged with Sia: https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia/releases/v0.3.3
To CPU mine, first run "siad", then run "siac miner start [threads]" from a separate terminal.
Unfortunately siac will not display your CPU hash rate, but you can find it by viewing to localhost:9980/miner/status in your browser.
Mining has been disabled from the UI, but can still be done using the "siac" command-line utility packaged with Sia: https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia/releases/v0.3.3
To CPU mine, first run "siad", then run "siac miner start [threads]" from a separate terminal.
Unfortunately siac will not display your CPU hash rate, but you can find it by viewing to localhost:9980/miner/status in your browser.
Siad v0.3.3 + Sia-GUI v0.3.2 works fine. I'm find block №101. And now got ~300k sc.
Sorry, my mistake, I thought you meant siad v0.3.2. Still, I don't recommend running different versions of Sia-UI/siad because the API has changed and may cause unexpected behavior.
another question: is upnp support included? if yes, is it enabled by default?
because when I click "announce", it says I need to open the port.
because when I click "announce", it says I need to open the port.
No UPnP support yet, sorry. You will need to forward your ports manually. (In fact, we encourage everyone to do this, because it improves overall network health.) The default ports are 9981 and 9982.
Re: [ANN] Sia - Decentralized Storage - Working Beta - Launches June 7th, 2015
How do you mine in CPU I tried but I have no idea.
Download Sia-GUI 0.3.2 https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia-UI/releases/download/v0.3.2-beta/Sia-UI-v0.3.2-beta-win64.zip
Good luck
v0.3.2 will not be able to mine on the fullnet. You need v0.3.3.
Mining has been disabled from the UI, but can still be done using the "siac" command-line utility packaged with Sia: https://github.com/NebulousLabs/Sia/releases/v0.3.3
To CPU mine, first run "siad", then run "siac miner start [threads]" from a separate terminal.
Unfortunately siac will not display your CPU hash rate, but you can find it by viewing to localhost:9980/miner/status in your browser.