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People seem to forget what money and BTC is.
Money is just a form of communication, a subset of language.
Bitcoin is the evolution of this made possible by the internet. It is not really in our control anymore.
We narcissistically think of humans as separate from nature but this is a subjective, short sighted delusion.
Nothing is separate from nature. The fact that we can not see how we are just part of the pattern means the processes and evolution that determine our fate as a species, planet, solar system is something we don't have a complete picture of. We don't know what we don't know.(Hell... until recently we did not even have a good theory on how we developed, now thankfully we have evolution.)
I alternate between being dumbfounded by how stupid humans are to being astounded by how clever we are. Take this Satoshi guy for example. Genius. Brilliant.
Yet just like any other discovery that has changed humanity this did not happen in a vacuum. He/She/It/They were also just a product of genetics, proteins being programmed, environmental influence and the accumulation of changes that built humanity, social structure, language, electronics, internet and now algorithms living independently on the internet. Bitcoin could not have been born any earlier time and yet the birth was inevitable.
BTC is an idea that has taken on a life of its own.
Even if the creator/s wanted to stop it now, it would very likely be impossible.
If it survives or dies does not depend on any human or group of humans but purely on nature and the rules that govern any other living thing.
An idea that simmers to the top of the collective consciousness and manifests in the way that Bitcoin did, can not simply disappear, it changes everything.
I am sure that this is the start of the greatest revolution I will see in my lifetime.
In essence it is nothing less than the whole organism that we know as human civilisation evolving into something new.
This happened before, maybe 10k years ago with drawings in a cave, language became more complex, then more recently with writing, printing.
Then telephones, internet.
Now it is happening over the matter of days, weeks and months. We can watch it in realtime. It is like watching an astronomical event that you expect should take a thousand years, except it is sped up like some BBC documentary and splashed on a 3d 60 inch curved OLED home TV for your viewing pleasure.
Nature does not care for people in love with the status quo. There is constant change, seeking the shortest path with least friction, least fragility.
If you have ever seen a lightning strike slowed down to ultimate slow motion and tendrils seeking and then finding the best pathway to consolidate in a blinding flash of light, you will understand how I see bitcoin and why the question about its survival seems ridiculous to me.
TLDR: read post above me
Money is just a form of communication, a subset of language.
Bitcoin is the evolution of this made possible by the internet. It is not really in our control anymore.
We narcissistically think of humans as separate from nature but this is a subjective, short sighted delusion.
Nothing is separate from nature. The fact that we can not see how we are just part of the pattern means the processes and evolution that determine our fate as a species, planet, solar system is something we don't have a complete picture of. We don't know what we don't know.(Hell... until recently we did not even have a good theory on how we developed, now thankfully we have evolution.)
I alternate between being dumbfounded by how stupid humans are to being astounded by how clever we are. Take this Satoshi guy for example. Genius. Brilliant.
Yet just like any other discovery that has changed humanity this did not happen in a vacuum. He/She/It/They were also just a product of genetics, proteins being programmed, environmental influence and the accumulation of changes that built humanity, social structure, language, electronics, internet and now algorithms living independently on the internet. Bitcoin could not have been born any earlier time and yet the birth was inevitable.
BTC is an idea that has taken on a life of its own.
Even if the creator/s wanted to stop it now, it would very likely be impossible.
If it survives or dies does not depend on any human or group of humans but purely on nature and the rules that govern any other living thing.
An idea that simmers to the top of the collective consciousness and manifests in the way that Bitcoin did, can not simply disappear, it changes everything.
I am sure that this is the start of the greatest revolution I will see in my lifetime.
In essence it is nothing less than the whole organism that we know as human civilisation evolving into something new.
This happened before, maybe 10k years ago with drawings in a cave, language became more complex, then more recently with writing, printing.
Then telephones, internet.
Now it is happening over the matter of days, weeks and months. We can watch it in realtime. It is like watching an astronomical event that you expect should take a thousand years, except it is sped up like some BBC documentary and splashed on a 3d 60 inch curved OLED home TV for your viewing pleasure.
Nature does not care for people in love with the status quo. There is constant change, seeking the shortest path with least friction, least fragility.
If you have ever seen a lightning strike slowed down to ultimate slow motion and tendrils seeking and then finding the best pathway to consolidate in a blinding flash of light, you will understand how I see bitcoin and why the question about its survival seems ridiculous to me.
TLDR: read post above me
*sigh*
[edit] I was mildy interested in this thread until this post
Like to buy them all.....please pm me for ordering details asap
Sold them all to Sjoerd - trustworthy character - positive feedback left!
Can't login on the bitmain site - is it just me?
I can log in, just nothing I can buy!I just get a spinning circle 'Waiting for passport.bitmain.com' and nothing happens - rest of the site seems fine - just the login...
Re: [5000 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + VarDiff
I WANT TO MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENT
I have moved all my hardware to BTC guild so you people should be getting plenty of blocks now !!!!!!!!
I have moved all my hardware to BTC guild so you people should be getting plenty of blocks now !!!!!!!!
Hate to see you go, drop a note on how the luck is over there. I will tell you about the 10 or so blocks a day we get since you have left.
Thanks buddy
Will keep you informed If I were you I'd swing your miners back about now bob...
Re: [5000 TH] Slush's Pool (mining.bitcoin.cz); TX FEES + VarDiff
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i recommend the S3 antminer to start off with.
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i recommend the S3 antminer to start off with.
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meh - S3 is not a good deal even if it was shipping today - but it won't even ship for 30 odd days from now...
My advice is to hold back and watch for now - if you must jump in then asicminer has the best deal at the moment with 8TH for approx $5000.
But even that will just about (maybe/might/unlikely) ROI (make your money back in BTC).
Buying BTC (as advised by others) is probably not a bad idea - but it's boring as hell and you might as well put your money in stocks and shares.
Well, without getting into a larger debate on USA vs UK - we know how to spell "colour"...At this point, the only thing I'm still waiting for is the bitcoin address that each party wants their bitcoins sent to.
Looks like you done you best here given the circumstances Dan, always with integrity...
...Americans Most people in the world (which is larger than America), despise being associated with failure...
ftfy
Could anybody give me any suggestions as to why my antminer seems to be running kinda shit?
Seems to want to only hold 400 gh/s comfortably. Those spikes at the end are the results of reboots. Whenever I reboot it, it runs nicely for a bit, then deteriorates back down to 400. Never seems to be able to hold the 440gh/s as expected.
I have it running off a Corsair 750W PSU with all four PCI-E cables connected so power shouldn't be an issue. It is also running completely stock, I tried overclocking to 'compensate' for this shortfall but even slight overclocks produced great instability and knocked out one of the chips.
I've looked about and this seems kinda like a rare issue but my ant just doesn't want to play ball.
Seems to want to only hold 400 gh/s comfortably. Those spikes at the end are the results of reboots. Whenever I reboot it, it runs nicely for a bit, then deteriorates back down to 400. Never seems to be able to hold the 440gh/s as expected.
I have it running off a Corsair 750W PSU with all four PCI-E cables connected so power shouldn't be an issue. It is also running completely stock, I tried overclocking to 'compensate' for this shortfall but even slight overclocks produced great instability and knocked out one of the chips.
I've looked about and this seems kinda like a rare issue but my ant just doesn't want to play ball.
That's typical of ghash - try a different pool
Shipping when fc?
it's in the OP, when I read it fully, the info was there.Shipping Dates are from 16th August to 26th August.
Sorry yeah I see it - could do with bolding
Guys, i was away and i did not know what happened, I opened this scam accusation against this scammer "deathman" and i got the -ve feedback at the end? I did not deny that i bought from him before and he was so legit but this time has scammed me and scammed all my customers. and also i deleted my feedbacks against "depokate" : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=363713 , he sold me a lot of AGCs before and now he started to scam everyone on here. so I don't deserve this negative feedback since i have a lot of +ve feedbacks and i did not make any problem with any deal i did on here.
i agree as on this but you as reseller should know that there is always a risk i hope it can be fixed somehow
I am trying man to do my best and to reach this guy "deathman" but with no good. I hope that he can refund the money so i can payback to my buyers.
Assuiming (which everyone does here apart from your good self) that it's more or less a definite you're not going to reach this guy 'deathman' - you need to take the loss on your chin, gain the wisdom for future reference and pay those people back. "I have to scam you cos he scammed me" - just doesn't work...