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Re: ★[ANN] [NAV] NAVAJO COIN - EVENT IN TAIPEI ● NEW ROADMAP ● ANONYMOUS TECH. ● CHAT ●
Why are my year old posts getting deleted by moderators? Seems like they were relevant. I asked in a civil tone about the devs going into hiding and not answering questions. Trying to scrub history so nobody sees a pattern?
Re: [ANN] Navajo Coin [NAV] - *NOW ON CRYPTSY* *New wallet with chat & improved UI!*
true but i think we have to have a few weeks/months of patience. This because the first beta period isnt over yet and untill that is finished we dont see the anon beta getting launched.
But i have to say things are turning more positive with regular updates and stuff like that. Its just a matter of time before we reach a point that nav will be interesting for the mass as well.
But i have to say things are turning more positive with regular updates and stuff like that. Its just a matter of time before we reach a point that nav will be interesting for the mass as well.
Yeah but the problem is.. When this coin is released from sum2 -> navajo and all the attention about ANON everybody want that because ANON should mean $$.. We also saw that in the price what rised verry fast to the top 50 on coinmarketcap.
After that nothing happen anymore, and we also saw that on the vallue from the coin. NAV dropped down to place 174 ( checked 10 sec ago ). While in the mean time many other coins get launched with anon transaction. Those coins rised in the coinmarketcap, but also that nothing changed, they all fall back below 100 and lower. WHY? People lost the intereset in ANON transaction..
The only thing people want now is darkcoin or bitcoin. Bitcoin because its world wide, and darkcoin for the criminals what will change the darkcoin into bitcoin.. So at the end the only thing people want is make profit with the alt coins and get there bitcoins.
Ofc there are a few altcoins what are doing great business in the real world if u look at cannabiscoin ( cannabis patients can buy there goods in herbal centers in America with paying cannabiscoin CANN ).. But also that is a small market..
Navajo should be released directly with an anon beta wallet.. Now 4-5months later there is still nothing changed..
I'm not here for FUD or anything else, but u must see the reality in ur eyes. It's not good when new comming people in this cryptoworld get advised by u guys for buying more and more, and 1 day later they make big lost. Because everyday now like 3 months non stop, the price is getting lower and lower. Be fair for urself and for other people.
I sold all of those coins already because i already lost enough money by this many words but zero actions. Ofc i will buy again when there are getting actions and no words.
Also something simple like the POD ( proof of dev status ) is still missing after weeks.. Most coins are releasing with the POD status on the op. So it's not hard to get that status if the dev got a good attention. So can somebody tell me why the nav team did not receive the POD status? What is the reason for that?
i agree with most of your story. but lets be clear i never push people to buy! buying coins is always risky, nobody can give guarantees.
its possible nothing happens when anon gets released, its also possible price will spike....nobody knows.
anon still gives a coin more value, but i agree that for the long term the anon has to be combined with something in the real world, like a marketplace, so demand for the usage will go up.
I can't agree here bros. Real Anonymous Solution still hasn't been made in crypto. Darkcoin - yeah, it's a good technology, but it doesn't provide FULL anonymity. That's a fact. About other anon coins - most of them are pretty much copy/paste solutions. They don't provide true and full anonymity either. They just give some part of it - makes transactions harder (but still able to !) to trace. New, innovative Anon System can really become a huge deal in crypto world.
Just my two sats
Maidsafe is hitting all it's marks. Testnet 2 just started. installers for every platform coming in a couple weeks. Launch in the next few months.
They will have anonymous EVERYTHING. FWIW, I think NAV's window of opportunity has just about closed. Good luck!
Heh, sure, it's understandable that You're trying to promote things You're into everywhere You can. But seriously - I don't care about that much for now. I'm here for NAV and I believe in it's concept. Maybe NAV will be the one that will close Your project's window of opportunity? Today it's an open game. We'll see! Good luck to You too!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Maidsafe has been working on their project for 8 yrs. COO of Skype is on their board. They raised $6mil in 5 hrs. Seriously doubt NAV will have any impact on their outcome. I'll come find you when safecoins are worth a dollar
Re: [ANN] Navajo Coin [NAV] - *NOW ON CRYPTSY* *New wallet with chat & improved UI!*
true but i think we have to have a few weeks/months of patience. This because the first beta period isnt over yet and untill that is finished we dont see the anon beta getting launched.
But i have to say things are turning more positive with regular updates and stuff like that. Its just a matter of time before we reach a point that nav will be interesting for the mass as well.
But i have to say things are turning more positive with regular updates and stuff like that. Its just a matter of time before we reach a point that nav will be interesting for the mass as well.
Yeah but the problem is.. When this coin is released from sum2 -> navajo and all the attention about ANON everybody want that because ANON should mean $$.. We also saw that in the price what rised verry fast to the top 50 on coinmarketcap.
After that nothing happen anymore, and we also saw that on the vallue from the coin. NAV dropped down to place 174 ( checked 10 sec ago ). While in the mean time many other coins get launched with anon transaction. Those coins rised in the coinmarketcap, but also that nothing changed, they all fall back below 100 and lower. WHY? People lost the intereset in ANON transaction..
The only thing people want now is darkcoin or bitcoin. Bitcoin because its world wide, and darkcoin for the criminals what will change the darkcoin into bitcoin.. So at the end the only thing people want is make profit with the alt coins and get there bitcoins.
Ofc there are a few altcoins what are doing great business in the real world if u look at cannabiscoin ( cannabis patients can buy there goods in herbal centers in America with paying cannabiscoin CANN ).. But also that is a small market..
Navajo should be released directly with an anon beta wallet.. Now 4-5months later there is still nothing changed..
I'm not here for FUD or anything else, but u must see the reality in ur eyes. It's not good when new comming people in this cryptoworld get advised by u guys for buying more and more, and 1 day later they make big lost. Because everyday now like 3 months non stop, the price is getting lower and lower. Be fair for urself and for other people.
I sold all of those coins already because i already lost enough money by this many words but zero actions. Ofc i will buy again when there are getting actions and no words.
Also something simple like the POD ( proof of dev status ) is still missing after weeks.. Most coins are releasing with the POD status on the op. So it's not hard to get that status if the dev got a good attention. So can somebody tell me why the nav team did not receive the POD status? What is the reason for that?
i agree with most of your story. but lets be clear i never push people to buy! buying coins is always risky, nobody can give guarantees.
its possible nothing happens when anon gets released, its also possible price will spike....nobody knows.
anon still gives a coin more value, but i agree that for the long term the anon has to be combined with something in the real world, like a marketplace, so demand for the usage will go up.
I can't agree here bros. Real Anonymous Solution still hasn't been made in crypto. Darkcoin - yeah, it's a good technology, but it doesn't provide FULL anonymity. That's a fact. About other anon coins - most of them are pretty much copy/paste solutions. They don't provide true and full anonymity either. They just give some part of it - makes transactions harder (but still able to !) to trace. New, innovative Anon System can really become a huge deal in crypto world.
Just my two sats
Maidsafe is hitting all it's marks. Testnet 2 just started. installers for every platform coming in a couple weeks. Launch in the next few months.
They will have anonymous EVERYTHING. FWIW, I think NAV's window of opportunity has just about closed. Good luck!
Re: [ANN] Navajo Coin [NAV] - *NOW ON CRYPTSY* *New wallet with chat & improved UI!*
Been a while. Thought I'd check in to see if there was any progress.
1. The richlist is a great feature. Coins are obviously VERY centralized though. Kinda scary.
2. No meaningful update about the anon transactions. It's been around 4 months. Seems like the typical vaporware pump and dump at this point. People have been asking direct questions about the timeline, and they never get a direct answer.
3. Nobody cares about chat. The fact that you wasted time on a feature that was not your original selling point is lame from an investor's point of view.
Best of luck to you all. I'll check back at the end of the year...
1. The richlist is a great feature. Coins are obviously VERY centralized though. Kinda scary.
2. No meaningful update about the anon transactions. It's been around 4 months. Seems like the typical vaporware pump and dump at this point. People have been asking direct questions about the timeline, and they never get a direct answer.
3. Nobody cares about chat. The fact that you wasted time on a feature that was not your original selling point is lame from an investor's point of view.
Best of luck to you all. I'll check back at the end of the year...
Re: The Official Mastercoin Foundation, Master Protocol & Mastercoin Thread
a bot just bought all the MSC on bter at 10BTC/MSC 
Looks like there is a bug in this bot. It is basing everything on the future price of MSC. A bit like David Irvine and the Mastercoin crims
David Irvine is a symbol of everything that is right in this world. You might as well get on the table and shout that you have a tiny brain hahahahahahahahahahaha
IMO the blokes an idiot, a fake asshole and although probably nievely and unwittingly; is trying to create yet another part of the internet for a niche group of dumb liberals and pedophiles that represent everything I find sickening in this world.
Each to their own point of view I suppose, but I think you missed the context of the original jokey comment you thought was idiotic.
Yes. Each is entitled to their own point of view. Just remember, at one point people believed that the world was flat. lol. Time will tell what is written in history. For now, I'm calling it as I see it......you're a flat-lander!
Re: The Official Mastercoin Foundation, Master Protocol & Mastercoin Thread
a bot just bought all the MSC on bter at 10BTC/MSC
Looks like there is a bug in this bot. It is basing everything on the future price of MSC. A bit like David Irvine and the Mastercoin crims
David Irvine is a symbol of everything that is right in this world. You might as well get on the table and shout that you have a tiny brain hahahahahahahahahahaha
Re: [ANN] Navajo Coin [NAV] - *Messaging System BETA Started*
Hey, it's not our fault some idiot wants to sell down almost half a million NAV. What do you expect to happen to the price? It's already rebounded to above 250. This week will be a good week!
In the end, i guess we'll see who the idiot is.....
Re: [ANN] Navajo Coin [NAV] - *Messaging System BETA Started*
Lot's of cheerleading still. Seems like the price is speaking volumes about everyone's true feelings (190!).
'Love and light' has turned to 'spite and darkness'!
We've certainly got proof of dumb cheerleaders (PODC). What about proof of code (POC)?
SoopY! Seriously? You're justifying your bitcoin hustling by saying that you have no vested interest yet in NAV? Why did you sign up to do this? So you could hold us hostage in the end? Serious lack of integrity. Someone should have asked the community for funds before he did any work. To hold the community hostage at this point, and continue to drag his feet.....that wasn't what we all signed up for.
I hate the fact SoopY is so comfortable hiding behind his anonymity. In real life, someone would have slapped the turban off his head and asked "WTF?". Nobody likes a false prophet. Thus far, that's all SoopY's 'visions' have proven to be.....false.
Thoughtful and grounded,
NUNL
'Love and light' has turned to 'spite and darkness'!
We've certainly got proof of dumb cheerleaders (PODC). What about proof of code (POC)?
SoopY! Seriously? You're justifying your bitcoin hustling by saying that you have no vested interest yet in NAV? Why did you sign up to do this? So you could hold us hostage in the end? Serious lack of integrity. Someone should have asked the community for funds before he did any work. To hold the community hostage at this point, and continue to drag his feet.....that wasn't what we all signed up for.
I hate the fact SoopY is so comfortable hiding behind his anonymity. In real life, someone would have slapped the turban off his head and asked "WTF?". Nobody likes a false prophet. Thus far, that's all SoopY's 'visions' have proven to be.....false.
Thoughtful and grounded,
NUNL
Re: [ANN] Navajo Coin [NAV] - *Messaging System BETA Started*
Seriously? This is what replaces actual news? Insider whispers and gossip? SoopY had this ready to go 3 months ago, and there is still no proof of anything. At any moment he could show what he's up to. If there is actually software....and it's not just vaporware....FUD would be squashed in an instant.
Words aside, SoopY's actions speak very loudly. Sad. I never met someone from India with so little integrity, yet spewing so much about love and light. First time for everything.
Words aside, SoopY's actions speak very loudly. Sad. I never met someone from India with so little integrity, yet spewing so much about love and light. First time for everything.
Re: [ANN] Navajo Coin [NAV] - *Messaging System BETA Started*
Soopy is back, I told you that he would deliver.
VAPORWARE!
Re: [ANN] Navajo Coin [NAV] - *Messaging System BETA Started*
Hello Guys,
The Development team is working hard behind the scenes , there are testers , supporters , investors working their asses off on everything perfecting , testing and most of all making Navajo a success , we are looking towards a solid future for NavajoCoin not a pump and dump one , we are looking to move up in the ladder to stand along the most successful coins , my future for NavajoCoin is to be next to Litecoin , oh well let's say Bitcoin since I'm not sure of the future of Litecoin , that is the dream of all the people working behind Navajo , While the Developer team is working behind the upcoming client releases I can assure you the path and the vision we all share are close to reality that we all live in , we are not here to make a coin, pump it and then let it die , we are all here to stay.
Hope I talked for everyone who's serious in the cryptoworld and to the hearts of everyone who share the same passion and most foremost for NavajoCoin.
Love & Light.
~SoopY~
The Development team is working hard behind the scenes , there are testers , supporters , investors working their asses off on everything perfecting , testing and most of all making Navajo a success , we are looking towards a solid future for NavajoCoin not a pump and dump one , we are looking to move up in the ladder to stand along the most successful coins , my future for NavajoCoin is to be next to Litecoin , oh well let's say Bitcoin since I'm not sure of the future of Litecoin , that is the dream of all the people working behind Navajo , While the Developer team is working behind the upcoming client releases I can assure you the path and the vision we all share are close to reality that we all live in , we are not here to make a coin, pump it and then let it die , we are all here to stay.
Hope I talked for everyone who's serious in the cryptoworld and to the hearts of everyone who share the same passion and most foremost for NavajoCoin.
Love & Light.
~SoopY~
Herewith I promise you, when you mange to bring nav first to Litecoin region I will book a flight and bring your a sixpack of german beer to your house ;-)Yes. Nav coin will make your dinner and do your laundry! The next upgrade will tuck your kids into bed at night. Have faith!
Lot's of fluff again SoopY. We asked if the code could be reviewed so we can see exactly where we are at. It doesn't have to be finished. We want to see the quality and quantity of your work so far. If that's a problem, maybe you could address it, rather than sweep it under the rug....again. You wonder why tensions are high here. It's because simple, reasonable requests are ignored. Investors feel disrespected.
Am I the only one who is bothered that SoopY hides behind his anonymity. Why can't we act like this is a real business? Investors deserve transparency. Instead we feel held hostage by SoopY.
Re: [ANN] Navajo Coin [NAV] - *Messaging System BETA Started*
I think we all understand it's not finished. We'd like to know exactly where we're at. If you want to gain some support, let's have his work up till now reviewed by another developer. If indeed, everything is as you say....it would be a HUGE boost of confidence, and we can all go back to trusting SoopY unconditionally.
Plenty of guys like this out there https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=745275.0 https://github.com/Earlz/coinreviews https://github.com/Earlz/coinreviews/blob/master/commonproblems.md
Thank God, you have started making reasonable comments. Thanks for the change of tone. This is what we need to succeed, to ultimately get soopy back to business.Plenty of guys like this out there https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=745275.0 https://github.com/Earlz/coinreviews https://github.com/Earlz/coinreviews/blob/master/commonproblems.md
This was my tone on July 29, in a private message to sum2dev
"Hey there. Lots of scam coins going on these days. 'USB coin' devs were active on bitcointalk. They were communicating....but not informing. The entire time they were dumping coins they stole. People are realizing that just communicating is not enough to trust someone. They also have to keep you informed.
Things are looking really bad here. You say that the dev is working behind the scenes, but I feel like now would be a good time for proof. You have a lot of good people here who believed in you, and these circumstances have turned them into trolls (myself included).
Let's get back to the old ways and make everyone a happy team. OK?
I'd be your biggest advocate, and would be happy to donate to the foundation.
Let me know what you think,
C-"
It's almost 3 months later and we still have no proof. You can see where my outrage comes from.
Still can't believe that after my request went unanswered I was still asked to donate a FULL BTCITCOIN to SoopY...
Re: [ANN] Navajo Coin [NAV] - *Messaging System BETA Started*
Is the chat even anonymous? Or is it just a copy of what he did for beecoin on Aug 11......before NAV?
If it's just a copy, not anonymous, and beecoin got the feature first....it says a lot about our development timeline.
If it's just a copy, not anonymous, and beecoin got the feature first....it says a lot about our development timeline.
Hello
We explained the chat in our last beta client's start announcement. There is non anonymous chat and the anonymous chat, which soopy is finishing. Also pakage works on adding other suggested features/improvements to the beta client.
Cheers
Can we see some proof of code for the anon transactions?
If You want, we can of course ask soopy for that, since that's one of the things he's continuously working on
I think we all understand it's not finished. We'd like to know exactly where we're at. If you want to gain some support, let's have his work up till now reviewed by another developer. If indeed, everything is as you say....it would be a HUGE boost of confidence, and we can all go back to trusting SoopY unconditionally.
Plenty of guys like this out there https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=745275.0 https://github.com/Earlz/coinreviews https://github.com/Earlz/coinreviews/blob/master/commonproblems.md
Re: [ANN] Navajo Coin [NAV] - *Messaging System BETA Started*
Is the chat even anonymous? Or is it just a copy of what he did for beecoin on Aug 11......before NAV?
If it's just a copy, not anonymous, and beecoin got the feature first....it says a lot about our development timeline.
If it's just a copy, not anonymous, and beecoin got the feature first....it says a lot about our development timeline.
Hello
We explained the chat in our last beta client's start announcement. There is non anonymous chat and the anonymous chat, which soopy is finishing. Also pakage works on adding other suggested features/improvements to the beta client.
Cheers
Can we see some proof of code for the anon transactions?
Re: [ANN] Navajo Coin [NAV] - *Messaging System BETA Started*
Is the chat even anonymous? Or is it just a copy of what he did for beecoin on Aug 11......before NAV?
If it's just a copy, not anonymous, and beecoin got the feature first....it says a lot about our development timeline.
If it's just a copy, not anonymous, and beecoin got the feature first....it says a lot about our development timeline.
Re: [ANN] Navajo Coin [NAV] - *Messaging System BETA Started*
Just got this PM from strugg.
"Hi nousernamesleft
I'm only negative because I've been waiting almost 3 months for these same promises to manifest...
"Hi nousernamesleft
I'm only negative because I've been waiting almost 3 months for these same promises to manifest...
The thing is... whining will really not make things better eitherway.
If you fear it is a scam, whining will not improve the situation because it will not generate features. It will speed up the downfall of the coin making it even harder for you to get out.
And you have made it clear that you want to get out, right?
Are you are just venting because your investment did now go as planned? Well guess what, we are all on the same boat here. Nobody would have bought had they known what was to follow. I guess our future prediction skills suck.
If you thing there is some hope, again whining will not do anything to speed things up. It might just encourage a few mini-panics along the way, further concentrating the coins within an ever smaller circle of investors. This might not be a big deal IF the coin recovers
In that case it only helps if you are just acting in hopes of getting more cheap coins. As if they are not dirt cheap already. Otherwise, at best you are not doing permanent damage, at worse you are slowing things down and scaring people away
At least that's how I see it, but if you have a plausible justification for whining please let us know
If you consider my valid points 'whining', you need to get your head out of the sand. Asking to be shown the code immediately is a far cry from whining. We invested real money. We should be able to see the state of the project....whatever condition it's in. He's had complete control of the timeline, and project roadmap for 3 months. Let's check his work. Would be nice to have proof of code.
Our decision to hodl or sell should be based on facts....not blind faith in promises.
Re: [ANN] Navajo Coin [NAV] - *Messaging System BETA Started*
Just got this PM from strugg.
"Hi nousernamesleft
Like I said I understand You completely and I agree that we need to ask soopy many difficult questions. But please leave it to us - dev Team. You are talking very negatively in the thread about the same things. It won't help You, won't help the Community. We know that we have to ask soopy all these questions and we will do it asap. Things will change. So please just leave it for us and stop writing all the time about that in the thread - You said many important things and we will ask soopy about everything You wanted.
Best Regards
- Strugg"
If Ben Franklin were still alive, I'm sure he'd have a few choice words for him. PRIVACY / SECURITY / FREEDOM All 3 are important, not just the first two and anonymous chat.
I'm only negative because I've been waiting almost 3 months for these same promises to manifest. I left it to the devs, and nothing happened. Trust is at an all time low. Anon was supposed to be ready for beta when I bought in. I think it's time to see some proof of code. NOW. Shit or get off the pot. I invested real money. Let's see what we all invested in!
Be careful who you try to censor. You may be stirring a wasp's nest!
"Hi nousernamesleft
Like I said I understand You completely and I agree that we need to ask soopy many difficult questions. But please leave it to us - dev Team. You are talking very negatively in the thread about the same things. It won't help You, won't help the Community. We know that we have to ask soopy all these questions and we will do it asap. Things will change. So please just leave it for us and stop writing all the time about that in the thread - You said many important things and we will ask soopy about everything You wanted.
Best Regards
- Strugg"
If Ben Franklin were still alive, I'm sure he'd have a few choice words for him. PRIVACY / SECURITY / FREEDOM All 3 are important, not just the first two and anonymous chat.
I'm only negative because I've been waiting almost 3 months for these same promises to manifest. I left it to the devs, and nothing happened. Trust is at an all time low. Anon was supposed to be ready for beta when I bought in. I think it's time to see some proof of code. NOW. Shit or get off the pot. I invested real money. Let's see what we all invested in!
Be careful who you try to censor. You may be stirring a wasp's nest!
Re: [ANN] Navajo Coin [NAV] - *Messaging System BETA Started*
Without code review....launching chat, and calling it 'anonymous' is irresponsible at best.
Does anyone have any proof that it's really anonymous?
Has it been tested?
Upload it to github?
We need Dan.
+ 1000
Finally! Someone asking common sense questions!