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UK GBP : Looking to regularly buy BTC with UK Bank Payment (and Escrow)
Hi,
Do you have access to a reliable long term source of Bitcoins ?
Are you willing to sell them at (or below) Bitstamp / Bitfinex prices ?
I am trading approximately £1000 - £2000 per day at LocalBitcoins.com (clearblueskies)
However my source will not last for much longer so I'm looking for new Trading partners !!!
If you are interested and can supply a decent amount of Coins in return for "Faster Payment" direct into your bank account then please get in touch with me
Thanks,
Odlal / ClearBlueSkies
Do you have access to a reliable long term source of Bitcoins ?
Are you willing to sell them at (or below) Bitstamp / Bitfinex prices ?
I am trading approximately £1000 - £2000 per day at LocalBitcoins.com (clearblueskies)
However my source will not last for much longer so I'm looking for new Trading partners !!!
If you are interested and can supply a decent amount of Coins in return for "Faster Payment" direct into your bank account then please get in touch with me
Thanks,
Odlal / ClearBlueSkies
Re: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers.
Correct, it is another ponzi and the owners even promote it as such on their facebook page ...
First it was called "CryptoDouble" ... then not long after it re-appeared as "CryptoWin" ... and now there's one called "MultiCrypto" !
All variations on a theme obviously however there's one additional commonality I see which is that it's the same person who comes on here to "Promote" it
Now I wonder why that could be ...
Re: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers.
Thank you, I'll keep providing as much information as I can without inviting additional risk to the situation.
Don't forget to pass on some relevant information about your intended "Recovery Plan" will you
How's that looking now ? I'd consider it to be in everyone's interest for you to be as Honest as you can about it and if there's no chance whatsoever of it coming to fruition then please just make an announcement to that effect ! How say you ?
Re: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers.
Now Michael would you be kind enough to provide the TXN ID of one of your own "Investments" so that I can compare against it please ?
Sure thing, here you go ... b9ed3b2d4cf2ee290c556ad131e7e080a56875e33d1718286cfe652fc337c82e That's the first 100 hour cycle showing 2.98 (1.49x2) paid to my wallet
Sorry, I wasn't clear enough, I meant the TXN ID for the initial deposit INTO their system, so in this case, the one where you paid in 1.49 BTC ?
Hope that's ok with you ?
Thanks BTW
EDIT: Because what you should find is that your TXN won't have a second OUTPUT Wallet whereas 99.9% of all of the remaining "Investments" DO !
06e365e50f574e8485e8a6c6e674ec594b9c9ae78ff97ba064ecc1046dce5a3c: Seen by 3 peers. Appeared in best chain at height 336552, depth 818, work done 7846305748742629641972.
Hey thanks very much for the quick turn around
And as I suspected your TXN looks different from all of the other ones shown on their website because it doesn't PAY OUT to a further wallet !!!
I'd advise AGAINST anyone to "invest" anything which they can't afford to lose ...
PS 2:30AM Bed
Re: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers.
Now Michael would you be kind enough to provide the TXN ID of one of your own "Investments" so that I can compare against it please ?
Sure thing, here you go ... b9ed3b2d4cf2ee290c556ad131e7e080a56875e33d1718286cfe652fc337c82e That's the first 100 hour cycle showing 2.98 (1.49x2) paid to my wallet
Sorry, I wasn't clear enough, I meant the TXN ID for the initial deposit INTO their system, so in this case, the one where you paid in 1.49 BTC ?
Hope that's ok with you ?
Thanks BTW
EDIT: Because what you should find is that your TXN won't have a second OUTPUT Wallet whereas 99.9% of all of the remaining "Investments" DO !
Re: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers.
You could care less that you are taking coins from other people who are going to get screwed over eventually, good for you.
Absolutely correct ... If it is a ponzi, then they are going to get screwed over whether I'm in there or not.
I've had several contacts with CryptoDouble and they continually tell me that they are not a scam and are honestly doubling the value of invested coin in 100 hours.
Do I believe that ? Well, frankly the jury is still out on that one, but in the mean time I'm going to take it at face value and make hay while the sun shines
Edit: Just checked and so far 9506 investments have been made and 3172 payouts too.
Oh of course it's a scam, where on Earth can you get a 100% increase in just FOUR DAYS eh ?
Anyway, I'm not going to argue that ... however if you look at their opening screen, like I did, and then choose any of the BTC so-called "Investments", now move along the line to where the amount of BTC is shown with a dashed underlining and click on that to get the Transaction ID ok ?
I couldn't actually copy the value shown under "DEPOSIT TRANSACTION ID" nor does their icon seem to work but I got it anyway from right-clicking on it and then "Inspect Element"
So now check the BlockChain transaction and sure enough it shows the correct amount of BTC as PART OF THE OVERALL TXN but if you do it for enough of their "Investments" I'm pretty sure what you'll find is that it's simply THEIR OWN coins ALREADY looping around but made to look like there's a continual stream of new investments
Because what you'll see looking at each of the transactions does not tally with one person simply making a deposit into their system, there's 99.9% ALWAYS at least a second wallet OUTPUT for each transaction which to me indicates it's a SCAM !
So Michael, perhaps you are telling the truth and you have doubled up as you've said previously but I seriously doubt it's anything but a HIGH RISK / SHORT TERM SCAM setup !
Now Michael would you be kind enough to provide the TXN ID of one of your own "Investments" so that I can compare against it please ?
Re: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers.
hopefully pbmining is buying some actual equipment with its profits to sweep this whole ponzi under the rug.
Trouble is, and please feel free to correct me, unless you've got access to wholesale unlimited "next-to-Free" Electricity there's simply no profit to be made from Cloud Mining anymore ... AFAICS there's almost next to zero Profit Margin in it !
Unless of course the million-to-one shot comes in and the price of BTC takes off again in a huge way ...
Re: [ANN] .0017 BTC per GH/s - 12 month contract **www.BitcoinCloudServices.com**
I´m suspicious of everybody in the BTC marketplace.
As for cloudmining.website I´m well on the way to ROI
and hope it lasts.
As for cloudmining.website I´m well on the way to ROI
and hope it lasts.
Hmmm ... Well that does surprise me, correct me if I'm wrong but they've only been in business since the beginning of November right ?
Well, I´m awfully sorry to disappoint you. Bye, bye.
Seems like I've touched a nerve there somehow ...
Re: [ANN] .0017 BTC per GH/s - 12 month contract **www.BitcoinCloudServices.com**
I´m suspicious of everybody in the BTC marketplace.
As for cloudmining.website I´m well on the way to ROI
and hope it lasts.
As for cloudmining.website I´m well on the way to ROI
and hope it lasts.
Hmmm ... Well that does surprise me, correct me if I'm wrong but they've only been in business since the beginning of November right ?
Re: [ANN] .0017 BTC per GH/s - 12 month contract **www.BitcoinCloudServices.com**
That's good and stable. Just their contracts are a bit costly now.
Nudge nudge wink wink look at my Signature he says
LOL !---> CloudMining.Website 0.001 BTC / GHs <---
BTW aren't you at all suspicious as to HOW CloudMining can even Run at such incredibly low prices given the cost of Electricity these days combined with the astronomical Difficulty level in recent months ?
I know I would be !!!
My first ever message on here was abut Group Bitcoin and wanted to change a few things now because sme time as passed and I did get my payments sorted out. So this company or service does pay on time now and have done for a few months now.
I still have one more thing to sort out. These were the first mining company that I ever put money into but compared to the prices these days I still don't understand how me paying neary £93 pounds for. I've time contract for only 50 GH/S is even profitable cobcidering I am getting around 75p a month in Bitcoins.
I feel I can trust you guys now as time= trust in my books but the fact remains I am not going to get my investment back for 9 years. I would have sunk my £600 in to your company instead of pbmining if you had sorted out my payments.
I actually would like to invest in you again if you messaged me or posted on here to sort out my payments because 9 years is bad to get an investment back. Cobcidering I got back in 4 months 30 percent of what I invested in to PB.
You seen my comment in another thread so would like you to reply please if possible.
I still have one more thing to sort out. These were the first mining company that I ever put money into but compared to the prices these days I still don't understand how me paying neary £93 pounds for. I've time contract for only 50 GH/S is even profitable cobcidering I am getting around 75p a month in Bitcoins.
I feel I can trust you guys now as time= trust in my books but the fact remains I am not going to get my investment back for 9 years. I would have sunk my £600 in to your company instead of pbmining if you had sorted out my payments.
I actually would like to invest in you again if you messaged me or posted on here to sort out my payments because 9 years is bad to get an investment back. Cobcidering I got back in 4 months 30 percent of what I invested in to PB.
You seen my comment in another thread so would like you to reply please if possible.
We actually buy and run mining hardware which seems to be a rather novel idea within cloud mining these days.
Unfortunately electricity in the UK is very expensive we have a great deal at 12p per Kwh but even at that rate we barely break even when you add rent/cooling we're now running at a substantial loss and looking for cheaper premises.
Mining in the UK is finished unless you get/steal free electricity.
We're finished now and haven't accepted new customers for a while, we'll just be running the 12 month contracts for the duration specified and the indefinite ones for as long as they cover their running costs, which they're now falling bellow.
It's a shame really, we started in October 2013 everything was looking great then the network went from 0.9PH to well over 200PH in a few months.
It's only possible to mine in the cheapest electricity areas in the world like Washington but even then it'll be difficult to ROI on the hardware costs, if we had gotten to the size of PB we would have considered moving to a cheaper country.
Mining is now for hobbyists and companies like KNC, Bitmain and Cointerra they can get cheap hardware they build it and run it on an industrial scale.
Well a very Happy New Year 2015 to all at Group Bitcoin
I can imagine you might be having a day off today all things considered ... however if you would be so good as to get around to sending out this month's BTC's I'd very much appreciate it
From my point of view I'm obviously glad the Difficulty has remained fairly constant over the last couple of months and also that the range of the BTC price hasn't dropped any further than it did back at the beginning of October !
BTW Sorry to hear you're looking for new premises now ...
Re: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers.
Despite the negative responses, i will continue to try to help.
Look there is no "trying" to help, you either Help by answering questions truthfully and providing honest information or you don't !
IMO it's not so much about negativity versus positivity ... it's actually about getting to the root of the issue and YOU being more forthcoming with HOW you intend to Help
Re: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers.
Saying "It's a tough middleman situation" explains very little ... You need to make that clearer for it to be understood, so please explain.
I don't need to explain that. What has happened has happened and we are dealing wih the consequences. if we are ever obligated to provide specifics then we will. My number one goal is to take care of the customers and I will spend every last ounce of resources to do that. Why else do you think I would be sitting here 10 minutes before New Years? I obviously want to see continued success in this company, and I believe it's possible.
One Definition of a "Sociopath" from http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sociopath :
"A person with a psychopathic personality whose behavior is antisocial, often criminal, and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience".
No, of course you don't need to explain anything ... sheesh
Re: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers.
Where is the proof it is a Ponzi/Scam?
I don´t see any scam , PBMining always paid me. But those payouts are very low.
Low payouts are not nice but SCAM? Nope
I just can´t see myself going to the police because my sha-256 cloudmining service has low payouts.
They would laugh at me and say
"boy go home sleep we have better things to do here. your own fault with your low payout virtual tokens. What was the name? bitcoin? ah anyway: bye"
I don´t see any scam , PBMining always paid me. But those payouts are very low.
Low payouts are not nice but SCAM? Nope
I just can´t see myself going to the police because my sha-256 cloudmining service has low payouts.
They would laugh at me and say
"boy go home sleep we have better things to do here. your own fault with your low payout virtual tokens. What was the name? bitcoin? ah anyway: bye"
Seriously dude... not a scam? serously? excuse my bluntness ... but are you high or something?
Nah he/she is just fishing to see who can be caught with such Mis-Information !
Re: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers.
Where is the proof it is a Ponzi/Scam?
Payments to old customers were made from payments received from new customers. That's the pure definition of a ponzi.
Don't let him/her [5ick3uffalo] Hook you so easily !
Re: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers.
Fcuking ONE PERCENT ! What a fcuking P!sstake 
Dear Mr Scam-A-Lot,
In keeping with the Spirit of Christmas, and how I appreciate you must be feeling somewhat under Pressure just now, I have decided to GIVE YOU BACK my astronomically HUGE payout towards any Lawyer fees I presume you're going to have to Pay For in the near Future !!!
Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year,
Ha! I think NOT in your case !
Yours,
Odlal.
PS In future if you decide to carry on with these Paltry amounts of BTC then please kindly Donate mine towards a Homeless Shelter or some other needy cause instead ... OK ?
PPS You Sir are a TW@T !!!
PPPS I reserve the right to change my opinion of You if in fact you have the balls to come back here onto this thread and provide some insight into what you intend to do ...
Dear Mr Scam-A-Lot,
In keeping with the Spirit of Christmas, and how I appreciate you must be feeling somewhat under Pressure just now, I have decided to GIVE YOU BACK my astronomically HUGE payout towards any Lawyer fees I presume you're going to have to Pay For in the near Future !!!
Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year,
Ha! I think NOT in your case !
Yours,
Odlal.
PS In future if you decide to carry on with these Paltry amounts of BTC then please kindly Donate mine towards a Homeless Shelter or some other needy cause instead ... OK ?
PPS You Sir are a TW@T !!!
PPPS I reserve the right to change my opinion of You if in fact you have the balls to come back here onto this thread and provide some insight into what you intend to do ...
Re: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers.
Ponzi collapses and Kübler-Ross model sets in in at varying speeds for different people: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. Many still seem stuck in phase 1.
+1
Note to SELF : Now you might find it helpful, when / if feeling 'stuck', to take into Consideration the following :
Dont be afraid to cry. It will free your mind of sorrowful thoughts
(Native American proverb, Hopi)
And you can then move THROUGH the Stages of Your Grief ...
Re: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers.
Does your definition of a Ponzi includes honest admission by the "scammer" that he is in a dire situation and efforts to recover ?
An "honest" man would have no problem posting to this thread every once in a while eh ?
EDIT: It may even help him to process his Emotions !
Re: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers.
Ponzi collapses and Kübler-Ross model sets in in at varying speeds for different people: denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance. Many still seem stuck in phase 1.
+1
Re: Recovery program beginning in January for PB Mining customers.
Thanks for the suggestion however I feel the full weight of Responsibility now lies with the owners of PBM and it is up to them to provide details of any forthcoming Refund Plan otherwise I shall leave the matter in the hands of the Authorities to deal with.