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Re: AMD Mem Tweak XL - Read/modify timings/pp/straps on the fly
Can somebody explain to me WTF is going on with my GPUS? 
so using teamredminer latest version while having my vega 64 (nitro+) on stock bios core1100@ 820mV mem 1100 @ 850 mV
with memory timings cl 22 ras 35 rcdwr 12// rcab 44 rcpb 44 // rrds rrdl 5// faw 20 //REF 17550//RFC 247
I get 51Mh/s @ about 140 watts.
When I downgrade my bios to a vega 56 one (so from vega 64 TO vega 56, not the other way arround!)
1) the memory timings mentioned above dont work
2) this memory timings work 0 --RAS 26 --RCDRD 13 --RCDWR 12 --RC 38 --RP 12 --RRDS 3 --RRDL 5 --RTP 6 --FAW 12 --CWL 8 --WTRS 4 --WTRL 9 --WR 14 --REF 20600 --RFC 244
and with the above ("2") and core at 1100 810Mv and mem 1045 @ 82Mv The damn thing runs at 55Mh/s while consuming less power!!!
unfortunately I cant got more than 1045 though (despite when being on vega 64 bios I cat get easilty to 1100)
but the question is HOW DOES THIS WORK? can anybody give me a kinda technical explanation as to why with a downgraded bios + slower mem frequency the GPU performs so much better ?
Can I make it even better?
so using teamredminer latest version while having my vega 64 (nitro+) on stock bios core1100@ 820mV mem 1100 @ 850 mV
with memory timings cl 22 ras 35 rcdwr 12// rcab 44 rcpb 44 // rrds rrdl 5// faw 20 //REF 17550//RFC 247
I get 51Mh/s @ about 140 watts.
When I downgrade my bios to a vega 56 one (so from vega 64 TO vega 56, not the other way arround!)
1) the memory timings mentioned above dont work
2) this memory timings work 0 --RAS 26 --RCDRD 13 --RCDWR 12 --RC 38 --RP 12 --RRDS 3 --RRDL 5 --RTP 6 --FAW 12 --CWL 8 --WTRS 4 --WTRL 9 --WR 14 --REF 20600 --RFC 244
and with the above ("2") and core at 1100 810Mv and mem 1045 @ 82Mv The damn thing runs at 55Mh/s while consuming less power!!!
unfortunately I cant got more than 1045 though (despite when being on vega 64 bios I cat get easilty to 1100)
but the question is HOW DOES THIS WORK? can anybody give me a kinda technical explanation as to why with a downgraded bios + slower mem frequency the GPU performs so much better ?
Can I make it even better?
Hi, I have 2 Vega 64 Nitros. I tried flashing Vega 56 Pulse BIOS (because of the lower TDP I thought it would be e better idea) - it killed it. The card cannot be seen neither in Safe mode (no win driver) neither in DOS with bootable flash drive with ATI flash on it. Luckily there's a BIOS switch. I downloaded the Nitro+ version for 56 bios that has the same device ID 1002 687F - 1DA2 E37F and 180W TDP (socket and battery) the other ones had 220W as far as I remember. Guess what - I killed the second 64 as well. So I wonder which BIOS did you use to flash your Vega 64 nitro to Vega 56? I read somewhere else that another user killed his gigabyte 64 when attempting to flash 56 BIOS on it, so I guess this is not universal and there is trial and error involved.
On your other question. memory performance is a combination of Mhz and timings. It is really complicated to measure which exact parameter makes what difference. If you look at the timing numbers from your 2 cases - they are VERY different. I assume ethash uses the memory in a very specific way, but some timings compensate for others. So you can get similar results with very different combinations. I believe this could end up being so complicated that you actually need an AI to test and evaluate all the 100000s of combinations.
55 is close to a record high! If you get that stable I guess it makes only sense to look for ways to lower power consumption. Or if you dont care - simply dont mess around with it anymore
Having reached the max of a rig is a moment where I'd be pleased to open up a beer or two, sit back and relax 
I downloaded the most recent (as in date uploaded) Sapphire nitro+ vega 56 bios from the techpowerup database and it worked for all my cards.
55.55+ Which I get is not record high per se I have seen a russian guy doing a youtube using also atitool settings in raveOS doing 62.5Mh/s but I cant understand what he is saying and dont know how to install that atitool on windows so I did not attempts his method yet.
Re: AMD Mem Tweak XL - Read/modify timings/pp/straps on the fly
Can anybody help me make amdtweak run via CMD (windows 10)
like as it does in a windows console.
E.g if I run on my cmd amdtweak --current it does not print the current timing state of my GPUs but rather executes the gui of amdmemtweak...
It is important for me to manage running it via cmd only cause in that way I can write a bat script that will set the timings automatically on boot instead of me manually have to import a profie for that.
Oh and if anybody would like to help me sort this out as a 2ndary request if possible (if not just ignore that running on cmd is more importand than being able to do my 2ndry request) is how to not just set timings but also clocks and fan speeds etc because on the flag list I could find on github it only lists flags for timings.
thanks.
like as it does in a windows console.
E.g if I run on my cmd amdtweak --current it does not print the current timing state of my GPUs but rather executes the gui of amdmemtweak...
It is important for me to manage running it via cmd only cause in that way I can write a bat script that will set the timings automatically on boot instead of me manually have to import a profie for that.
Oh and if anybody would like to help me sort this out as a 2ndary request if possible (if not just ignore that running on cmd is more importand than being able to do my 2ndry request) is how to not just set timings but also clocks and fan speeds etc because on the flag list I could find on github it only lists flags for timings.
thanks.
Re: Will I MELT my Asrock H110 motherboard? Electrical advice needed.
In this very threat:
the reason is if you dont use powerered risers than you can connect the onoard molex and still have enough power.
if you look at the manual you can read that these molex supply extra power to pci slots
saying that I dont need to
I think they have the warning because the riser kits ASRock sells provide +12V power through a cable connected to the PCI-E slots. In that case, you definitely need to use the PCI-E supplemental power connectors on the motherboard.
http://www.asrock.com/mb/spec/card.asp?Model=BTC+PRO+Kit
USB powered risers supply +12V power directly from the PSU and there is only a small +3.3V current coming from the PCI-E slot through the USB cable to the riser. That's why ASRock lets you disable the warning, though they should make more clear when you need to use the PCI-E supplemental power connectors.
nice riser kit, i like
and yeah, those would need the molex connected
Saying that I need to.
saying that I need to.
And now you saying that I need to (also a few more posts saying that I dont need to but I omitted them)
So please dont be cynical, I am not an idiot in fact I worked as a computer technician back in the day and my gut tells me that it is unnecessary but as I said here and on what I can find by googling there are mixed messages about what to do and I cant afford to damage my mobo and potentially my cards just by going with my gut feeling because this is a non standart application and there might be electrical reasons against or for it that I am not aware of.
hence I am asking for the advise of people that actually WORK with this board, how they connect it in order to work without issues not for ironic posts like yours thank you
You don't need to use the motherboard molex PCI-E supplemental power when using all powered risers. You do need to disable the power check in the Bios or you will get a warning message at Post.
Saying I dont need to as long as I check a setting in the biosThanks! Where is the "power check" in the bios? What's is called?
Also, per the manual, and because it's 13 gpu's, it says these molex must be plugged in. I have to believe it's for a reason since this is a "mining" board, and ASrock is well aware of powered risers, no?
Are you using this board now?
Is the "power check" option in the bios something different? Where can I find it specifically?
Also, per the manual, and because it's 13 gpu's, it says these molex must be plugged in. I have to believe it's for a reason since this is a "mining" board, and ASrock is well aware of powered risers, no?
Are you using this board now?
Is the "power check" option in the bios something different? Where can I find it specifically?
You don't need to use the motherboard molex PCI-E supplemental power when using all powered risers. You do need to disable the power check in the Bios or you will get a warning message at Post.
the reason is if you dont use powerered risers than you can connect the onoard molex and still have enough power.
if you look at the manual you can read that these molex supply extra power to pci slots
I've used Asrock H81 boards without molex.
However, the manual for H110 makes it sound like total meltdown if you don't use molex. Thought, maybe, since it's 13 GPUs, it might be different.
Thanks for the info!
the reason is if you dont use powerered risers than you can connect the onoard molex and still have enough power.
if you look at the manual you can read that these molex supply extra power to pci slots
However, the manual for H110 makes it sound like total meltdown if you don't use molex. Thought, maybe, since it's 13 GPUs, it might be different.
Thanks for the info!
Thanks! Where is the "power check" in the bios? What's is called?
Also, per the manual, and because it's 13 gpu's, it says these molex must be plugged in. I have to believe it's for a reason since this is a "mining" board, and ASrock is well aware of powered risers, no?
Are you using this board now?
Is the "power check" option in the bios something different? Where can I find it specifically?
Also, per the manual, and because it's 13 gpu's, it says these molex must be plugged in. I have to believe it's for a reason since this is a "mining" board, and ASrock is well aware of powered risers, no?
Are you using this board now?
Is the "power check" option in the bios something different? Where can I find it specifically?
You don't need to use the motherboard molex PCI-E supplemental power when using all powered risers. You do need to disable the power check in the Bios or you will get a warning message at Post.
the reason is if you dont use powerered risers than you can connect the onoard molex and still have enough power.
if you look at the manual you can read that these molex supply extra power to pci slots
I think they have the warning because the riser kits ASRock sells provide +12V power through a cable connected to the PCI-E slots. In that case, you definitely need to use the PCI-E supplemental power connectors on the motherboard.
http://www.asrock.com/mb/spec/card.asp?Model=BTC+PRO+Kit
USB powered risers supply +12V power directly from the PSU and there is only a small +3.3V current coming from the PCI-E slot through the USB cable to the riser. That's why ASRock lets you disable the warning, though they should make more clear when you need to use the PCI-E supplemental power connectors.
nice riser kit, i like
and yeah, those would need the molex connected
Saying that I need to.
The extra power connectors are there for a reason. Its pure laziness not to plug power into them.
Also, you do not need the 5v for those connectors. I run a PCI-E to 3 molex cable to power my H110s directly off of a server PSU along with a 160w PICO
Also, you do not need the 5v for those connectors. I run a PCI-E to 3 molex cable to power my H110s directly off of a server PSU along with a 160w PICO
saying that I need to.
If you don't understand the previous replies how would you know good advice from bad?
If you don't understand and are that concerned then don't take any chances, go by the book
and connect everything.
But it's always better to understand before doing.
If you don't understand and are that concerned then don't take any chances, go by the book
and connect everything.
But it's always better to understand before doing.
And now you saying that I need to (also a few more posts saying that I dont need to but I omitted them)
So please dont be cynical, I am not an idiot in fact I worked as a computer technician back in the day and my gut tells me that it is unnecessary but as I said here and on what I can find by googling there are mixed messages about what to do and I cant afford to damage my mobo and potentially my cards just by going with my gut feeling because this is a non standart application and there might be electrical reasons against or for it that I am not aware of.
hence I am asking for the advise of people that actually WORK with this board, how they connect it in order to work without issues not for ironic posts like yours thank you
Re: Will I MELT my Asrock H110 motherboard? Electrical advice needed.
Sorry for digging up this old thread but I am about to build my first 13 GPU system using this port and I get mixed messaged when googling and also I am not sure if I understand what people said here on this specific topic.
So if I use molex powered risers (each of the 13 usb risers will be powered separately via molex)
Do I need to also plug the additional power inputs on the motherboard as the manual suggests? or will I melt my motherboard.
I really cant afford to melt it (and potentially the GPUs as well) so please answer only if you had this board or similar boards and know that the way you suggest will indeed work.
I thank you in advance.
So if I use molex powered risers (each of the 13 usb risers will be powered separately via molex)
Do I need to also plug the additional power inputs on the motherboard as the manual suggests? or will I melt my motherboard.
I really cant afford to melt it (and potentially the GPUs as well) so please answer only if you had this board or similar boards and know that the way you suggest will indeed work.
I thank you in advance.
Re: AMD Mem Tweak XL - Read/modify timings/pp/straps on the fly
Can somebody explain to me WTF is going on with my GPUS?
so using teamredminer latest version while having my vega 64 (nitro+) on stock bios core1100@ 820mV mem 1100 @ 850 mV
with memory timings cl 22 ras 35 rcdwr 12// rcab 44 rcpb 44 // rrds rrdl 5// faw 20 //REF 17550//RFC 247
I get 51Mh/s @ about 140 watts.
When I downgrade my bios to a vega 56 one (so from vega 64 TO vega 56, not the other way arround!)
1) the memory timings mentioned above dont work
2) this memory timings work 0 --RAS 26 --RCDRD 13 --RCDWR 12 --RC 38 --RP 12 --RRDS 3 --RRDL 5 --RTP 6 --FAW 12 --CWL 8 --WTRS 4 --WTRL 9 --WR 14 --REF 20600 --RFC 244
and with the above ("2") and core at 1100 810Mv and mem 1045 @ 82Mv The damn thing runs at 55Μh/s while consuming less power!!!
unfortunately I cant got more than 1045 though (despite when being on vega 64 bios I cat get easilty to 1100)
but the question is HOW DOES THIS WORK? can anybody give me a kinda technical explanation as to why with a downgraded bios + slower mem frequency the GPU performs so much better ?
Can I make it even better?
so using teamredminer latest version while having my vega 64 (nitro+) on stock bios core1100@ 820mV mem 1100 @ 850 mV
with memory timings cl 22 ras 35 rcdwr 12// rcab 44 rcpb 44 // rrds rrdl 5// faw 20 //REF 17550//RFC 247
I get 51Mh/s @ about 140 watts.
When I downgrade my bios to a vega 56 one (so from vega 64 TO vega 56, not the other way arround!)
1) the memory timings mentioned above dont work
2) this memory timings work 0 --RAS 26 --RCDRD 13 --RCDWR 12 --RC 38 --RP 12 --RRDS 3 --RRDL 5 --RTP 6 --FAW 12 --CWL 8 --WTRS 4 --WTRL 9 --WR 14 --REF 20600 --RFC 244
and with the above ("2") and core at 1100 810Mv and mem 1045 @ 82Mv The damn thing runs at 55Μh/s while consuming less power!!!
unfortunately I cant got more than 1045 though (despite when being on vega 64 bios I cat get easilty to 1100)
but the question is HOW DOES THIS WORK? can anybody give me a kinda technical explanation as to why with a downgraded bios + slower mem frequency the GPU performs so much better ?
Can I make it even better?
Every exchange have their rules and work method.
Binance uses the same adress, but you have to consider they can change / update your adress from time to time, if you are going to use exchange adress, just be well informed and check your deposit adress regularly
And even if you deposit to old adress, some exchanges can recover the amount to you. (it's not guaranteed)
But I have to say, a good practice is to have your own wallet, with your keys, and mine to this wallet, it's safer than any other method.
thanks for your reply. Binance uses the same adress, but you have to consider they can change / update your adress from time to time, if you are going to use exchange adress, just be well informed and check your deposit adress regularly
And even if you deposit to old adress, some exchanges can recover the amount to you. (it's not guaranteed)
But I have to say, a good practice is to have your own wallet, with your keys, and mine to this wallet, it's safer than any other method.
I just wanted to shave some overhead since even by having my own wallet I will deposit them to binance but thanks
So I am a noob and I am not sure about this...
I mean @ the ethermine pool (for ethereum)
and I set it so that the payouts go to my binance address (the ERC20 address binance gives once you setup an account and then go to wallet>overview>deposit>ETH)
In theory as far as I understand when payout day comes then ethermine should deposit my mined tokens to that address and I should be able to see them on my binance balance.
But what I would like to know is if this address will remain the same or that if binance periodically changes that deposit address (which would mean that the tokens would still payout to the initial address which probably wouldnt be assigned to me anymore so I lose tokens) ?
I hope that it is static/permanent . ..
I mean @ the ethermine pool (for ethereum)
and I set it so that the payouts go to my binance address (the ERC20 address binance gives once you setup an account and then go to wallet>overview>deposit>ETH)
In theory as far as I understand when payout day comes then ethermine should deposit my mined tokens to that address and I should be able to see them on my binance balance.
But what I would like to know is if this address will remain the same or that if binance periodically changes that deposit address (which would mean that the tokens would still payout to the initial address which probably wouldnt be assigned to me anymore so I lose tokens) ?
I hope that it is static/permanent . ..
Re: PhoenixMiner 5.5c: fastest Ethereum/Ethash miner with lowest devfee (Win/Linux)
I'd say 5.5c with the below Sha sum is safe to use.
PhoenixMiner,
Thanks for the hard work and clarification. All the public needs to know is regardless of how NiceHash handled this,
is EVERY version of PhoenixMiner plugin that has been used or updated by nicehashminer safe and free of malware?
Or do nicehashminer users need to try and figure out what version of phoenixminer they are running and if it was
compromised? If no downloadable miners from the nicehash miner program was able to download the wrong or
compromised file, then I would say every nicehash user has nothing to worry about from Phoenixminer. Is this the
case? Because Nicehash is scaring people into wasting countless hours wiping their entire PCs and changing all
passwords. No one should need to do that unless nicehash miner software did truly incorporate a phoenix miner
plug in that wasn't yours. Please let us know your thoughts on this.
Thank you
Thanks for the hard work and clarification. All the public needs to know is regardless of how NiceHash handled this,
is EVERY version of PhoenixMiner plugin that has been used or updated by nicehashminer safe and free of malware?
Or do nicehashminer users need to try and figure out what version of phoenixminer they are running and if it was
compromised? If no downloadable miners from the nicehash miner program was able to download the wrong or
compromised file, then I would say every nicehash user has nothing to worry about from Phoenixminer. Is this the
case? Because Nicehash is scaring people into wasting countless hours wiping their entire PCs and changing all
passwords. No one should need to do that unless nicehash miner software did truly incorporate a phoenix miner
plug in that wasn't yours. Please let us know your thoughts on this.
Thank you
Yes, but what the download link?
To rephrase a quote from zohan
Re: PhoenixMiner 5.5c: fastest Ethereum/Ethash miner with lowest devfee (Win/Linux)
It is not official. It's full of typos.
You either got it from Github or the link at the top if this thread.
Anywhere else it is possibly compromised.
phoenixminer.org IS NOT OFFICIAL.
This should be put in as a sticky here.
You either got it from Github or the link at the top if this thread.
Anywhere else it is possibly compromised.
phoenixminer.org IS NOT OFFICIAL.
This should be put in as a sticky here.
lol I thought it was the official one I run the one downloaded from there for like a month now and dont have any issue yet (although maybe it has done something to my windows which seem to respond slower from time to time but this could be also windows rott dunno...)
Anyway where is the official place to download the legit version of it? googling phoenixminer github doesnt point me to a place where I can download zip files for windows just some code
I am a noob And the mega link on the first tab of this topic doesnt work
Re: PhoenixMiner 5.5c: fastest Ethereum/Ethash miner with lowest devfee (Win/Linux)
Ok a noob question here, I want to mine in ethermine using phoenix but I dont understand how the "worker" naming is going to work
so this is my default script
I just paste my wallet code and leave everything else as is? I dont know why it has "asus" next to
no dots? e.g -wal walletname.workername ?
Does it matter what worker name I have ? I mean should I somehow register the worker name on etheremine's webpage? or should I just delete the worker name and leave it blank?
so this is my default script
Code:
PhoenixMiner.exe -pool eu1.ethermine.org:4444 -wal 0xBwalletcode -worker asus -epsw x -mode 1 -log 1 -mport 0 -etha 0 -ftime 55 -retrydelay 1 -coin eth
pause
pause
I just paste my wallet code and leave everything else as is? I dont know why it has "asus" next to
Code:
-worker
should I delete that? no dots? e.g -wal walletname.workername ?
Does it matter what worker name I have ? I mean should I somehow register the worker name on etheremine's webpage? or should I just delete the worker name and leave it blank?