1. Now you are admitting you closed active participants club completely? I mean, just a few days a go, you said its just some token holders now, others later.... etc...

2. yes you do use bot, DONT make me to take a video this time what you are doing on sh*tty mercatox! Just dont, I have other things to do, just dont want it to seem as I lost an argument and your company is not scamming people cause it is a scamming people. Dont make me take a video how a sale is executed before general users can even see an offer...

3. Payments optional mean usage of B2B is optional, meaning people who have ETH or LTC will prefer to pay in ETH or LTC, ppl with fiat will prefer fiat etc...we talked about this already.

So, as of now, no participants club, you use bots to sell / buy your own tokens to increase volume and payments in B2B are optional.

Look Noa, on some level I am sure you understand all this but you have a job to do to defend these people as an employee, but I got to say, its a sh*tty job you got yourself there!

Finally, you need to understand that I know this project inside and out. I know where its strengths could be, weaknesses and where you are scamming people. For example, I also know that you employed bots on your exchange to boost volume and I can even post a proof here if you make me.

What you need to do is, sit and talk to your community and give them a share. Give them something so they profit as well. Get together, explain that you are canceling APC but add something to replace it. Also, you take fiat for fees and buy tokens from your self. Explain to your community that it isnt easy to explain to professionals that they need to shop around exchanges to gather tokens for fees, but provide a solution that will make them profit too, not just buying from your self...be creative and most of all methodical...

There are solutions, which wouldnt cost you much, but would have enormous impact on token price.

If you are fair, that is what you need to do. Take it up to your bosses and if they are not greedy pricks I think they are, they will do it.

ok this is not even funny anymore... update on latest from B2B: they removed active participants club altogether!?

@Noa, I am not sure if you really have difficulty to understand or just playing dumb. Either way,  to answer your question about blaiming:

Your token is utility token. Meaning, there needs to be a usage of said token for the price to rise. Main reasons for demand of a token are:

1. sharing 20% of your net profit with token holders. You removed this entirely! So no more active participants, no more 20% sharing.

2. Commissions to be paid exclusively in B2B token, but you also accept fiat and claim to "purchase tokens from the market". Here is how you purchase tokens from the market:

https://imgur.com/zJ9og16

You just use a bot to place buy and sell order from your self. Technically, you are purchasing B2B tokens, the problem is, you are not buying them from organic market, you are buying them from your self and it doesnt affect demand so the price stagnates.

3. Other fees for your services are CAN be paid in B2B but you also accept fiat and other cryptocurrencies. So payment with B2B is optional.

So what exactly is the use of your "utility token"?

I just cannot believe you cannot understand this. Its not that hard!

I bust my ass posting these screenshots and links you just avoid them. Its like you have a focus span of a 5 yo...

Is this you buying on organic market:

https://imgur.com/zJ9og16


?

hahahahaha

https://imgur.com/zJ9og16

now you are doing it again?

wow... you are really shameless!

Ok, now you admit to having accept fiat instead of tokens for commission. All is good so far, but see the disturbing is the following:


So after you accept fiat for commission, you go to changes and buy tokens from your self? I ask, because you say, "why would we need to buy back from contributors". You see, to raise a value of a token, there needs to be a demand for it. No demand = no use, no use, useless token in a wallet.


Its not my thought, it is straight from your tokenomy part which you removed from your website! Read tokenomy and see if it says that 20% of net profit is shared with active participant? Then check and see if it says that you are not obligated to accept anyone to "active participants" club and if it says, you are not obligated to share 20% of net profit?


I am first to admit that I get emotional when I see a scam. You better be right otherwise I would consider myself a poor human being. Saying I am wrong without proving it means nothing.
Was it my emotions that caused 2+ million of trading volume to come down to 25k volume? Thats 80 times less!


This is where you are wrong. You develop product with the money people gave you for some "imaginary tokens" you issued. Those people expect you to build a product that will in return produce a demand for said token, hence increasing its value in due time. What you did is, take the money, develop your self a product, but somehow forgot the part where you are obligated to increase the demand for tokens. Buying from organic market, pushes the demand and you are not doing it. Sharing 20% of net profit, means less tokens in your pocket = greater demand etc. All of this, you just removed. You unilaterally decided to change your own whitepaper! is that not a scam?


No you are not open to questions. I am banned from telegram channel for asking questions and you personally avoid answering questions.

ho hooooo bois, same account but new cookie it seems... buckle up!

Here, mr. I answer everything:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2149935.msg31419085#msg31419085

Start there and continue reading my posts.

Wash trading (volume went down 80 times since I reported this, from 2 million on average to 25k)??
Tokenomy, changing tokenomy active participants to non-obligatory 20% of net profit share with them?
Accepting fiat money for fees, then buying them from your self instead of exchanges from people who invested, hence why the price didnt move.

etc etc etc

so many things exposed about your company SCAM and you want me to avoid word scam... read my posts you will find definition of a word scam too (should be your company picture next to it in dictionary).

Also, after I made these posts, got investors riled up seeking answers, price of B2B token went up 120 - 140% at a time. Only time that happened is in January when you started accepting commission for your products, but it would seem you dont like sharing with investors, you would rather have all that money for your self.

Anyway, any sane person will not believe B2B lies any more. You have been exposed and I just wish more people read this so you dont dump the rest of your tokens on them!

So here is your chance, answer all of my posts with evidence, or be quiet!

P.S. I am banned on your telegram channel, cant ask anything any more

yes new ICOs, launch on B2B scam company platform! Awesome start for your project and while you are at it, ask B2B to tell you how to take peoples money, make profit, build company and never give back to those who invested in you in first place. You get that advice for free!

I missed that... didnt pay attention at all.

In any case, I do believe they will get on some "bigger" exchange. They are loaded with peoples money, will use that. The real question is WHY. It is because they have 4 more million to dump on people. Once that is done, they can enjoy working with their product, getting money and token holders will have only each other to sell the tokens to, or someone naive enough to buy.

It is basically well thought out dump scheme.

Seeing as they didnt reply to any of the issues I brought up, except just saying " we dont do wash trading", here is a little update for everyone:

 - they said they dont do "wash trading", however, after my post I waited for their response which never came. After that, I sent notifications to all major exchanges (yes, ALL more or less, especially ones they were in talks with). After the post and my letter, B2B volume on exchanges dropped some 80x. From 2 million to 25k !!!!!!!  For me, that is undisputable proof they WERE doing wash trading and after it stopped (probably after being notified by exchanges that they are aware of what they are doing), volume dropped around 80 times!

 - Reason I am writing again is because team and company has 4 millions of tokens in their possession that are unlocked now! Now, IF or WHEN they get next big news, exchanges come to mind, you will experience them dumping one last reason to care about token value.

For all the people here thinking, dont care about all this, they said big exchange is coming soon I wil make some profit, I say:

Once they get on big exchange, I believe they will use that news / hype to dump their tokens on you and after that, they will have 0 reason to use tokens, add to their value or even pretend to care!

Edit: Got banned from telegram chat for asking these questions again. Too bad, many dont read whitepaper, let alone these posts.

Something not clear? They removed most important part of whitepaper ("tokenomy" that deals with token value in their system) from the website.

After exposing their scam, they removed the link to tokenomy part of whitepaper:

Website before:

https://imgur.com/quQBp1d

Tokenomy listed alongside the whitepaper

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Website now:

https://imgur.com/E35s2HH

Original tokenomy PDF for everyone to see:

https://ufile.io/e3tnv

Website before:

https://imgur.com/quQBp1d

Tokenomy listed alongside the whitepaper

------------------------------------------------------------

Website now:

https://imgur.com/E35s2HH

In case you want to put tokenomy back on website, but do a sneaky move of re-writing said paper, I uploaded original tokenomy PDF for everyone to see:

https://ufile.io/e3tnv

Dirty move B2B!

Coin? You are just making fun of your self, I am not even trying...

 Are you sure you know if you have a coin or a token? If you had a coin then yes, giving it more liquidity on its own would make it more valuable, but since you have a TOKEN  it needs utility. Gonna guess you are not the one who wrote whitepaper cause that one understood this hence why he made points for adding value (in "TOKENOMY" part of whitepaper) to TOKEN (you have a token btw) by giving 20% of commission share to token holders and having brokers buy tokens to pay for commission (both of these most important points you downgraded to non-obligatory and the second one to non-existent).

Finally, what did I tell you people?! They REMOVED the "tokenomy" link from their website (main paper that explains 6 points of adding value to the token, link was just next to WHITEPAPER, now its gone... see next post for images / proof)! This is how they operate, they dont solve problems just remove evidence of scam...

I didnt see anyone here, including myself, denying you have a working product or company. What you are doing is scamming people who invested so you can develop that product. You were supposed to make the token worth something and not just benefit yourself. That is exactly what you have been doing. You gathered a nice sum of money in ICO, developed your self a product and when it came to give something back to people who invested in your project, you decided that you should keep more to yourself.

It is pointless to keep spouting non-sense as you do, you are not fooling anyone. If you want your message heard, reply to issues raised with proof and explanation.

Been in this project for some time and wash trading is not the worst part. Thing is, if you look at this token`s price, you will notice it didnt change much. Only small breakthrough came in January (22nd and 23rd) when they actually said they will start accepting commission fees EXCLUSIVELY in B2B tokens.
What is exceptionally alarming here, until I made this post there was no care given to the value of the token itself. After my post and up to this day, price jumped 80%. Whoever thinks this is just coincidence (when in past 2-3 months price didnt move at all) is just ignorant. If you look at historic chart, you wont get the whole picture. If at some dates price closed at 6000 or 7000 sats, it was 50 - 100 USD worth of trading volume. These days we are seeing some volume at 80% price increase which is good. I just hate the fact it took someone to expose them publicly to force them to start doing what they promised in whitepaper. Fear remains that after this cools down, they will proceed with their greedy scam ways.

@gdm41 What is hilarious is that a company allows my posts to go unanswered on their ANN page! I expect them to remove ANN page from their coinmarketcap link cause it would seem they are prone to such solutions rather than actually stop scamming people.

B2BX company with token B2B, website: https://www.b2bx.pro/ is a scam and below you will find proofs of it.
They collected money during ICO to develop a software which will in the end serve to create income for the company and increase the value of the token.

In their whitepaper there are 6 points on how the value of the token is to be increased. Here I will talk about only 2 main ones (none are fulfilled but these are main ones):

-   In their whitepaper it is stated: "Starting from January 2018 the payment of commissions by all participants - members of the B2BX ecosystem will be accepted exclusively in B2BX Tokens." For over a month now there has been a daily volume of 1 – 3 million USD and no change in price. I made this post 3 days a go on their ANN page and token price is up 50-60%. To explain what happened: They have been doing wash trading and while accepting commission in fiat, they were buying tokens only from them selves. Check out this image (one of many) it shows they trade tokens in large quantities just below the organic seller price:

https://imgur.com/HxQt7Sg

They dont buy from organic market hence it has no effect on price of the token. After I made this post on ANN page, they started buying at least bits on organic market and price went up 50 – 60% overall.

-   In their whitepaper they stated they will setup “active participants” club for anyone with 1000 tokens or above with different roles and 20% of net profit from commission will be distributed to these holders.
They officially changed this, so they are no longer obligated to accept anyone into “active participants” club and even if they do, they are not obligated to share 20% of net profit with them. Further more, entrance bar has been raised from 1000 to 20.000 tokens.
This mechanism was there to increase the value of token over time. Meaning, with this in order they would have less and less tokens in their hands and price would eventually go up.

Here is what their admin said about this when asked why arent there “active participants” roles for 1000, 5000 and 10.000 token holders:

https://imgur.com/G0N8BXf

Finally, even though I made a post on their ANN page, they have so far failed to respond in any serious way or dispute these claims. All they did was to start buying at least parts from organic market, thus making price jump by 50-60% ( thats something at least).

I would like to say that this company HAS a working product and this is not the part where they committed the fraud I talk about. They used investors money to develop the product with clear promise in whitepaper what they will do to add to the value of the token. Not only that they didnt fulfill their promise, they even changed parts of whitepaper so they dont have to share net profit with investors. Pure SCAM!

After I wrote a wall of text with pictures and explanations, your only reply is this?

All the images I have of your trading practices are not what they seem to be? I should believe you and not my own eyes...right.

For almost 2 months no movement in the price and after I made a post this token goes up over 50% ? That is just coincidence too or you started to buy from organic market at least a bit?

Wont waste my time with you any more, I gave you ample time to respond in serious manner, but in lack of counter argument you post above quoted comment.

I am sure my actions wont affect your business in any way, but I will do my best to expose you for what you are...

If you check my posts, you will never see me saying they dont have a working product, but to explain why it is a scam... You invest money in ICO or support them by buying tokens on exchange and holding them. In doing so, you are guided by what was officially promised to you in their business plan / whitepaper / yellowpaper or whatever.

In this case, company used the received funds to develop a product / software solution but refuses to follow through on their obligation to investors. Their promise is to add to the value of token, make it more and more desirable.

So when you say they have a working product, I agree but that working product is for their own benefit not investors. If investors dont benefit the fruits of said "working product" that makes it a scam because it is opposite of what they promised in their whitepaper.

Hope I clarified this matter.

Finally, as far as the answers to questions go, you can clearly see they keep quiet on this. There are no answers from their side cause the answers would be worse for them than keeping quiet.

So you liked my posts that much, you decided to do this:

https://imgur.com/GHng79L

Well, if anything kudos for spending few thousands on buying from actual people rather than your self. Doesnt it feel good to be less selfish? Now keep it up!

P.S. Still waiting for your reply on 3 points above.

99.99% of their 3 million volume looks like this:

https://imgur.com/HxQt7Sg

but we should not believe our eyes cause...what? you said so?