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Re: Butter Bot!: New Bitstamp, BTC-E, and MtGox EMA Trading Platform
How I can know the backtest is not faked? It would be VERY easy to code it so it will use e.g. 30 minutes later data for calculating indicators than what we really are at the moment in the test time. So it would see a little bit into the future.
As I've said multiple times; EMA alone is not enough for making profit more than loss (without very good luck) so there is something suspicious with this "butter bot". I've ran hundreds of test runs in my own software with different kind of EMA strategies with multiple different EMAs at same time or not and it never did more profit than what it would've done by just holding the coins. When using few other indicators combined, it started making profit, but configuring takes time.
This post is not just to advertise my own bot. There is something suspicious with butter bot.
As I've said multiple times; EMA alone is not enough for making profit more than loss (without very good luck) so there is something suspicious with this "butter bot". I've ran hundreds of test runs in my own software with different kind of EMA strategies with multiple different EMAs at same time or not and it never did more profit than what it would've done by just holding the coins. When using few other indicators combined, it started making profit, but configuring takes time.
This post is not just to advertise my own bot. There is something suspicious with butter bot.
I've been using this bot for one month. I bought it as goxbot and after mtgox went down he sent me xbot for bitstamp.
My own config is almost same than the default but ratio trend indicator is in more important role. Though it seems it's best to react to big movements like very long emas crossing - if we are only using these technical indocators.
Therefore the bot will be quite passive with good configuration... but it stays up all day and night. I made some profit with that drop from 670 to 620 (was sleeping) but since that it's been holding mostly.
Still waiting for bigger movement. It performed well in backtests.
My own config is almost same than the default but ratio trend indicator is in more important role. Though it seems it's best to react to big movements like very long emas crossing - if we are only using these technical indocators.
Therefore the bot will be quite passive with good configuration... but it stays up all day and night. I made some profit with that drop from 670 to 620 (was sleeping) but since that it's been holding mostly.
Still waiting for bigger movement. It performed well in backtests.
All bots perform well in backtests, because it does not have any delay or bugs.
Anyway, it is useless to buy a bot.
If it is a good bot, noone will never sell it.
And if it is a bad bot, it is not a good idea to buy it.
Hey, thanks for pointing out your doubts
The backtest works in same way than real-time trading but the bot is set into a simulation where all data it "sees" is history data and it goes trough it but I guess you talk about network bugs? The bot is quite well tested and I run it 24/7 with two different settings. One bot is only for making charts though (trading disabled): http://www.btcharts.tk/ If I find any bugs, I fix them immediately because I need the fix myself too and then I release an update. You can check updates with "checkupdates" command.
You said all bots perform well in backtests. Could you tell me atleast one which has made more profit than by holding bitcoins if we talk about 2013 for example? Chart like this is very usefull though I don't know if you can generate CSV file with other bots for doing charts with excel: http://www.btcharts.tk/xbot/chart7.png It shows your current account balance converted to usd compared to bitcoin price during the time period of the backtest.
Code:
USD_balance + BTC_balance * Last_price * (1 - fee)
Delay is never higher than API lag which is usually 1-3 seconds at BitStamp if your own connection isn't bad. The bot does it's calculations in 100-200 milliseconds with slow CPU and 1-10 ms with fast CPU. You can set "show_calculation_times" to "true" in config if you want to see calculation times.
Why wouldn't I sell a good bot? That makes no sense. I don't lose anything if others are using it too. All the money I've got from selling this bot has gone to my exchange wallet for bot-trading.
I dont get people with such a negative attitude., you have bad experiences about bot? Why not try the real-time test
All feature requests are welcome! Also requests for different kind of help files.
What do you think about scripting? The configuration would have same stuff but you could change the code which calculates the risk points. Currently it looks like this with all indicators in use but the sciprting language would be simpler: http://pastebin.com/embed_iframe.php?i=07vXxrqq
What do you think about scripting? The configuration would have same stuff but you could change the code which calculates the risk points. Currently it looks like this with all indicators in use but the sciprting language would be simpler: http://pastebin.com/embed_iframe.php?i=07vXxrqq
Version 1.530 released:
- New command "vol x" for calculating volume of last x hours
- Volume chart
- VWAP indicator
- Little bit clearer output.. still some work do to with this one
- "avg. price" is now called SMA
- New command "vol x" for calculating volume of last x hours
- Volume chart
- VWAP indicator
- Little bit clearer output.. still some work do to with this one
- "avg. price" is now called SMA
Version 1.519 released:
- Little bit faster backtesting (more optimization)
- "interval" and "delay" parameters are now in minutes
- new default config (more passive but even better results in backtests)
- clearer output for backtests
- Little bit faster backtesting (more optimization)
- "interval" and "delay" parameters are now in minutes
- new default config (more passive but even better results in backtests)
- clearer output for backtests
Version 1.516 released:
- Now you can have charts of all indicators the bot is using with your configuration (see my charts here: http://www.btcharts.tk/)
- Default config is set to real-time test and charts will be saved to "status" folder
- New config parameter: "draw_charts"
I made a video of backtesting the bot. For the video I changed code to save over 100 000 chart pictures then joined them into one video. Looks cool.
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/NaiyYtLaVkU?rel=0
- Now you can have charts of all indicators the bot is using with your configuration (see my charts here: http://www.btcharts.tk/)
- Default config is set to real-time test and charts will be saved to "status" folder
- New config parameter: "draw_charts"
I made a video of backtesting the bot. For the video I changed code to save over 100 000 chart pictures then joined them into one video. Looks cool.
http://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/NaiyYtLaVkU?rel=0
This version will draw chart of indicators' with configured interval so you can easily see "where its going at".
