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Re: Limited in every bookmaker
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pop3r5
on 20/04/2023, 14:28:01 UTC

If you bet an opening line there is also a chance the market goes in the other direction and you bought a worse line.

You said it yourself, you play smaller leagues, these lines don't come out many days in advance. Of course they come faster than for example NBA because most leagues only have 1 game per week (where for example NBA has like 3 games a week for each team) but not really several days in advance. The other thing about smaller leagues is that you can only bet a limited abound of $ there since many bookies have automated limits on these leagues, doesn't matter who the customer is.


If you want to take a look into it, search for RAS, right angle sports, they do free release shows often apart from their vip stuff. Open an account somewhere, brand new account without bet history on it. They only send ncaa men march madness, nba and nfl, only sides and total, no props/small shit, so only huge markets. And I can guarantee your account won't last more than 3 picks, betting on ncaa men or nba, maybe just maybe nba playoffs you can stick a few more than 3 picks.

Of course the market can go the other direction sometimes, he beat clv by 5.3% over 2000picks = 2-3 picks and sayonara

Same as small markets football, they both last about as long but one of course has way higher than 5% clv.


I'm not originating any plays but I know where to find em.
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Re: Limited in every bookmaker
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pop3r5
on 20/04/2023, 02:31:31 UTC


its not difficult
i pass the KYC in every bookmakers
but they still limit me too because i bet on small football markets
only one crypto bookmaker never limit yet for now since 2 years with 35k++ profit but all the other can bet only between 0.01 to 10 dol
if u have skills in sports betting, they will limit you
u should just loose money in this world

I cannot send you a pm since I'm new here, please send me message, I'll share you some legit bookies non-famous ones which let us win decent 4-digit amounts with all markets needed, I'd love to know which book still letting you bet.  

And for all people saying if you guys are winning, why don't you ask your family and friends to place your bets?

Reason if how big is your family and friends circle, I've killed probably 50accounts past 12months, if your good, each account goes out very very quickly.
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Re: Limited in every bookmaker
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pop3r5
on 14/04/2023, 01:54:36 UTC


And "my industry", what are you talking about? I am old enough to have an over 20 year experience. Yesterday you wrote me a PM because you saw I commented I am as well limited at many sites. Back in 2001 Bwin (my first real bookie)  limited me to 100$ , then to 25$ and then to 0.10$. That's when it started. In other words, I know this business.

In your message this all sounded a little different: "I'm quite new to the crypto game and thought maybe this could be a good out to place bets. I'm betting mainly niche markets and low tiers league."

Of course if you bet niche markets and small leagues you are more likely on their radar. Still not after 1 bet.

Anyway, hope you keep winning, good luck.


I'm new to crypto bookies, i'm trying to find new outs cause I can't bet shit anywhere, since yesterday, been limited from 2 crypto ones already. The thing is you can either destroy small markets at a 15-20% clip or main ones at 3%. I still do all my main ones on asian bookies brokers where they don't limit but betting my monthly  turnover on a 2-3% yield versus on a 20% yield isn't exactly as profitable so everytime I'm out of accounts, I go back to sportmarket asia and stake there.

Anyway, no clue why I try to explain OP problem, i guess it just pains that these bookies pratices aren't exposed and people still think bookies allow people to win.

From what you wrote it seems you know what are talking about. Why don't you use local bookies (shops or terminals) to take value ?
You use Sportmarket agent as I understood? If yes good choice, just be cautious with some asians there that are known for voiding bets (I assume you use Pro).


Sportmarket the best asian broker for sure, no deposit nor cashout fees, 2nd choice betinasia, all others have big fees either on money in/out or fees on turnoverso easy choice. As far as the void bets, SingBet have been turn off a long long time ago, yet I still got fucked 2500$ in void bets on 2-3 bets I just couldnt pass on cause it was money on the floor but whatever, I knew there was a void chance before placing those bets.


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Re: Limited in every bookmaker
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pop3r5
on 13/04/2023, 13:56:31 UTC


And "my industry", what are you talking about? I am old enough to have an over 20 year experience. Yesterday you wrote me a PM because you saw I commented I am as well limited at many sites. Back in 2001 Bwin (my first real bookie)  limited me to 100$ , then to 25$ and then to 0.10$. That's when it started. In other words, I know this business.

In your message this all sounded a little different: "I'm quite new to the crypto game and thought maybe this could be a good out to place bets. I'm betting mainly niche markets and low tiers league."

Of course if you bet niche markets and small leagues you are more likely on their radar. Still not after 1 bet.

Anyway, hope you keep winning, good luck.


I'm new to crypto bookies, i'm trying to find new outs cause I can't bet shit anywhere, since yesterday, been limited from 2 crypto ones already. The thing is you can either destroy small markets at a 15-20% clip or main ones at 3%. I still do all my main ones on asian bookies brokers where they don't limit but betting my monthly 200k turnover on a 2-3% yield versus on a 20% yield isn't exactly as profitable so everytime I'm out of accounts, I go back to sportmarket asia and stake there.

Anyway, no clue why I try to explain OP problem, i guess it just pains that these bookies pratices aren't exposed and people still think bookies allow people to win.
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Re: Limited in every bookmaker
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pop3r5
on 13/04/2023, 13:21:53 UTC

I could send you 5 good sharp bets, you place them on your Stake account, and I guarantee you 100% you get limited and banned.

In general you are right. You win and you look like what you are doing and not like a degen gambler you will most likely get flagged as a "non profitable player" .

Getting limited for 5 "sharp bets" is nonsense I think.
If your bets are so sharp then you should be a rich guy then.

First of all it always depends on your overall +/- for deposits and withdrawals if an account gets limited. Also of course your recent gameplay, but not 5 bets only.

If you don't withdraw your winnings after every win then you won't get flagged that easy.

When you only bet 2 or 3 sports like I did in the past they will also think you are more than a recreative player. Gamblers bet on everything that's available while people that take it serious specialize on a handful of sports where they have knowledge about.

Bookies want recreative players, that's how it's always been.

This is not your industry, it's okay not knowing the in and outs of this business.

I sometimes get limited at the first sharp bet, not even 5 bets, new account without profiling or history, first one, rip, hello BetVictor, hello Bwin, hello Sportsbet, one good bet and you're out already so there's is no withdraw/deposit parameters nor there's is multisports criteria.

Almost impossible to become rich cause you can't stake anything anywhere, we're chasing new bookies everyday.

The things you did in the past doesnt matter, you did shit bets on random events, of course they won't ban or limit you even if you win 100 000$. It's all about beating the CLV, closing line value, if you do, whether or not you win the bet you're out. You can lose the said 1st bet and limited while on the red. You won't get limited ever if you win by beating them while betting the over under on Nba 3minutes before the match, cause the odds and lines has been sharpened out by the good players in the previous hours and days.

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Re: Limited in every bookmaker
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pop3r5
on 12/04/2023, 19:16:56 UTC
There's no rule violation.

You get limited as soon as you aren't a braindead sportsbettor, that's it.

If you beat the closing line value, your account is dead instantly.

Only exchanges and pinnacle won't limit you but they don't offer that many markets to bet on.


I've been limited from probably 100+ betting accounts, this isn't mafia, rule violation, scam or whatever, I just have better odds models and quicker to adjust than the bookies, so they shut you down cause they don't want any profitable bettor.

Yes, they'll let you win if you're lucky and win betting on dumb stuff, but you're out if you beat their closing odds, even if your bet lose.
That can't be said for the trusted bookies like Stake or many others that are operating out there, they wouldn't limit a gambler only because they win their bets, but they will surely do it if they suspiciously win every single bet that they place which surely raises a red flag about the player, and not every single casino will limit the same player for that one issue you mentioned.

OP has probably violated some rule that every casino has in their terms and conditions and that is the reason why he is limited in almost all of the platforms. Helping him in anyway would only get the helper in trouble if suspected.

You don't know enough about this industry, Stake will limit you too if you win on good bets, not if you win on lucky random bets. If I bet over 210pts on a Nba game the day before the match and the final closing line is 216 over under. You get limited and kick off any bookie in the world not named Pinnacle or exchanges.

I could send you 5 good sharp bets, you place them on your Stake account, and I guarantee you 100% you get limited and banned.
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Re: Duelbits limiting winners on minor leagues
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pop3r5
on 12/04/2023, 15:14:48 UTC
I had always thought that it's the odds provider that limits the player, not the website. Maybe I'm wrong. Either way, I think sites would be better off removing minor leagues from available bets and save themselves from these threads.

I can easily get an account limited within 1 or 2 bets on Nfl or Nba main handicap line or over under. They don't care even if biggest market in the world, if you bet on a early line and you manage to beat the closing odds you're out.
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Re: Limited in every bookmaker
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pop3r5
on 11/04/2023, 20:39:24 UTC
Wow, an offer I can't refuse? That sounds too good to be true! Let me just check my list of things to do today: go for a run, do some laundry, oh, and help a complete stranger engage in illegal activity by placing bets on their behalf. Wait, what?!

I'm sorry, but I have to keep myself a great distance from you. Offering to use someone else's betting account is not only unethical, it's also against the terms of service for most online bookmakers. And if you're already limited by almost every platform out there, that's a clear sign that something isn't right.

Rather than bypassing the rules, how about unraveling the reasons you're on those blacklists to begin with? Maybe it's a miscommunication or an error that can be fixed. Or perhaps, just perhaps, you've dipped your toes into some dubious dealings that are haunting you. In any case, it's best to tackle the repercussions and march on with integrity.
Well, he probably have tried to deal with the situation himself first before coming in here asking for someone else's help for placing bets by making an offer that no one can refuse but ironically, the offer is being refused by almost every single gambler out there without even bothering to ask him if what the offer actually is, lol.

The fact that he is limited in almost all gambling platforms give it all away, and someone would probably not get involved in helping someone who might have done something very wrong, or at least have violated a universal casino rule which has caused him being in this state.

It is something very delicate, but I think that the kyc process does something good here and it is to determine who does or does not do activities that are fraudulent, in this case the casino systems have blacklists and they pass them on to everyone? Is it like in real life in a normal casino that is not online? Because this surprises me, because the only way for someone to be totally banned is if they have passed their data among all the casinos to take care of people like him, if he is betaed it is because he does things that go against the terms and conditions.



Take a look on the links he send if you want to learn about how bookies operate :
https://www.theguardian.com/society/2022/feb/19/stake-factoring-how-bookies-clamp-down-on-successful-gamblers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABj7peI_R2M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJEM2_3QJSs



You get ban very very fast if you're good, you get limited for making good bets. But you can win on shit bets cause that's luck and they'll get you in the long run so they don't mind.


For example, if 2 days ago you bet the Lakers to win vs Timberwolves at 1.70 odds. The game is tonight and now the odds are now 1.25, bookie will limit you no matter what is the result for the game, cause they see you made a good bet and beat the closing line odds.
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Re: Limited in every bookmaker
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pop3r5
on 11/04/2023, 16:06:52 UTC
There's no rule violation.

You get limited as soon as you aren't a braindead sportsbettor, that's it, it's quite simple.

If you beat the closing line value, your account is dead instantly.

Only exchanges and pinnacle won't limit you but they don't offer that many markets to bet on.


I've been limited from probably 100+ betting accounts, this isn't mafia, rule violation, scam or whatever, I just have better odds models and quicker to adjust than the bookies, so they shut you down cause they don't want any profitable bettor.

Yes, they'll let you win if you're lucky and win betting on dumb stuff, but you're out if you beat their closing odds, even if your bet lose.