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Re: Warren Buffet saids: “Stay Away From Bitcoin”
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pr472
on 01/06/2015, 22:38:30 UTC
Who cares about Warren Buffet? He made money with Berkshire only because he was lucky. I am sure that his IQ is much lower than that of an average investor. And we can expect similar statements from low IQ people.

You don't become one of the richest men in the world by being "lucky". And to say "his IQ is much lower than that of an average investor" is laughable.
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Re: Everyone who's going to hear about bitcoin has heard about it
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pr472
on 10/05/2015, 23:21:24 UTC
The problem, as I see it, is that you have to give people a reason to take time to understand or show interest Bitcoin. I hear all the time, "I like using my credit card" or "I like using my debit card". They like the convenience. You have to move them out of that convenience, if that is possible.

For example, I have a PMA package with Wells Fargo. My credit and debit cards cost my nothing each year. If someone ever uses my card numbers, I get reimbursed completely. Convenience. This is what Bitcoin is up against, and Bitcoin needs many more people to use it if it is to grow.
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Re: Bitcoin or stockmarket?
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pr472
on 19/01/2015, 22:47:17 UTC
I've been invested in the stock market for 20+ years. When I started, the market was at 6,000. Now the market is at 17,000+, so the stock market has been very good to me. But the most important thing about the stock market is that it is a long term investment. You don't go into the market for months; you go into it for years, and if you do, you will make money.
Fees are pretty low, in my opinion. It is best to get help with your investment--I have Wells Fargo Advisors and it has been excellent.

Did your average yearly returns over 20 years outpace inflation? (To calculate inflation use the CPI formula that accurately reports food /fuel and healthcare and not the FUD they normally propagandize- 5-10% compounded annually per year should need to be beat)

My returns easily outpaced inflation. I'm currently living off these returns!
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Re: Bitcoin or stockmarket?
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pr472
on 18/01/2015, 22:52:36 UTC
Bitcoin.

Not enough ammo for stock market being profitable. Yet.

Also too much fees for stock market stuff, specially if you invest abroad. And you are not allowed to buy fractions of a stock.


And right now the fundamentals for the stock markets are not the best, in my opinion

I've been invested in the stock market for 20+ years. When I started, the market was at 6,000. Now the market is at 17,000+, so the stock market has been very good to me. But the most important thing about the stock market is that it is a long term investment. You don't go into the market for months; you go into it for years, and if you do, you will make money.
Fees are pretty low, in my opinion. It is best to get help with your investment--I have Wells Fargo Advisors and it has been excellent.
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Re: Bitcoin revealed: a Ponzi scheme for redistributing wealth - Washington Post
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pr472
on 15/01/2015, 22:40:14 UTC
Instead of trashing the Washington Post, does anyone have any intelligent critique of the author's points/ideas?
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Re: If Bitcoin fails..
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pr472
on 04/01/2015, 23:32:39 UTC
the reason bitcoin could fail is that only nerds and drug dealers use it .. the mom and pops around the world don't give a fuck

even young people I talk to could care less about bitcoin .. they love their paypal and credit cards .. stupid little shits


You are on to something. Bitcoin will only succeed if there is adoption by society. Right now, people seem satisfied with debit/credit cards, paypal, etc. People don't see why they should change what they are currently using and move to Bitcoin, especially since Bitcoin continues to fall in value.
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Re: Do you think 1.00 BTC will worth more than $10,000.00 USD at any time in 2015?
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pr472
on 26/10/2014, 22:39:33 UTC
Not a chance. If it came back to $1000 I'd call it a huge sucess. Honestly I expect not more than $600 next year.

This is one of the more realistic comments I have seen in this forum.
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Re: need to stop gambling
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pr472
on 09/10/2014, 23:36:21 UTC
lost 2btc out of the few that i own the other night gambling on bitcoincasino.io..

i hate my life

just wanted to share

So sorry to hear of your loss, but please don't "hate [your] life" ! Man, we all do things we regret. Pick yourself up, dust yourself off, and say "I'm moving forward!". Forget the past, just don't repeat the same mistake. I understand that you feel bad. But one mistake does not define you. Move forward!
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Re: Newbie, decided against mining, where is safest place to buy coins with visa
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pr472
on 01/10/2014, 22:49:33 UTC
started making an account with circle until they asked for my birth date and social security number

I would never give my social security number to a web site like this.
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Re: I am pretty confident we are the new wealthy elite, gentlemen.
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pr472
on 26/09/2014, 22:49:20 UTC
The time is coming...

We are only 3-6 months away from the next massive spike... and it will exceed all of your wildest dreams.

Is this a fortune cookie?
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Re: Why some people say Bitcoin has reached its "maximum exposure" level?
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pr472
on 25/09/2014, 23:10:53 UTC
I don't think "maximum exposure" level is the issue. Of all the people I know, only two have ever heard of bitcoin. And the both said the same thing, "it's used by crooks".
The problem is how bitcoin is viewed by the general public. There has been a lot of bad press, you know.
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Re: How to get benefit of btc price drop and make free btc quickly?
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pr472
on 21/09/2014, 23:28:22 UTC
I'm HODLING for the long term since Bitcoin will go to Moon, if you have savings account
in bank withdraw all fiat and buy bitcoin

The worst advice I've seen this year.
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Re: Take a lesson from Yahoo
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pr472
on 15/09/2014, 22:57:28 UTC
I agree with the general investment ideas and advice, but the fundamental flaw in the OP's statement is they omit the intrinsic properties of Bitcoin.

Bitcoin is deflationary by nature but not a deflationary spiral like a traditional monetary system:

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"Elaborate controls to make sure that currency is not produced in greater numbers is not something any other currency, like the dollar or the euro, has," says Russ Roberts, professor of economics at George Mason University. The consequence will likely be slow and steady deflation, as the growth in circulating bitcoins declines and their value rises.

The 21 million Bitcoins cap and block reward halving come into play as well.

With scarcity and a supply limit as known properties of Bitcoin, the price in theory should go up.



Anytime you make an investment, you believe "in theory" that it will go up. But in reality, prices go up or down because of factors that are unforeseen or unexpected. Bitcoin is no different.
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Re: Take a lesson from Yahoo
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pr472
on 13/09/2014, 17:07:43 UTC
By the way, I never said Bitcoin is "like" Yahoo, I said, "Take a lesson from Yahoo" -- the lesson being that anything you put money into will rise and fall. Yahoo's value of over $100.00 was artificial, and it fell quickly. As I said before, a lesson I learned is that "past results do not guarantee future results".
Do not "expect" that Bitcoin will have great value in the future. It might, but don't "expect" it.

I did not read right I appolgize for that.  Your don't invest more then you can lose is a good philosophy in general.   

Past results do not guarantee future results is also fair.   

I think we are still early on in bitcoin and future will show us who invested right.  I think bitcoin will have a value but I honestly agree no one can say how much.  We can guess and go from past.  I personally think with more adoption of it will rise.   It seems more and more are adopting it so i think future is bright personally.  But again I could be wrong anyone could.

Thank you! We agree.
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Re: Take a lesson from Yahoo
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pr472
on 12/09/2014, 13:23:54 UTC
By the way, I never said Bitcoin is "like" Yahoo, I said, "Take a lesson from Yahoo" -- the lesson being that anything you put money into will rise and fall. Yahoo's value of over $100.00 was artificial, and it fell quickly. As I said before, a lesson I learned is that "past results do not guarantee future results".
Do not "expect" that Bitcoin will have great value in the future. It might, but don't "expect" it.
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Re: Take a lesson from Yahoo
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pr472
on 11/09/2014, 23:07:57 UTC
I agree never invest more then your willing to lose.  But comparing bitcoin to yahoo is horrible really.  Bitcoin is currency, you could make a argument its a industry but not a single buisness.  And Yahoo had competition.  Bitcoin does not really have competition as main crypto.

I disagree. Bitcoin is a currency that many, many people buy as an investment. All you have to do is read this site to find that out.

Whether an "investment" has competition does not mean much. An "investment" has to be shown as trust worthy and a future. It is too early to say that Bitcoin is either trust worthy or that it has a future. I'm not saying that it does not, but what I am saying is that Bitcoin will follow the principles of an investment for success or failure.
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Re: Take a lesson from Yahoo
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pr472
on 09/09/2014, 21:17:55 UTC
Good advice in this thread. Only "invest" what you can afford to lose. And the first thing I learned when I got into the stock market (because it was pounded into my head) was, "past performance does not guarantee future results".
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Take a lesson from Yahoo
by
pr472
on 08/09/2014, 18:06:13 UTC
It seems that there a good number of people have bought Bitcoin as an investment. I'm not going to judge whether it is a good idea or not. But perhaps I can speak of one of my experiences with investments that you may want to consider.
In the year 2000, Yahoo stock was worth about $118.00. But the tech bubble burst, and in 2001, Yahoo stock fell to $8.11.  (I bought some at $8.90).
The good news is that Yahoo stock is now worth about $40.00-41.00. Yes, Yahoo stock has grown the past 13 years, but the growth has been gradual. The important word is "gradual". Most investments are like that. They usually grow over a period of time.
That is why I think it is unrealistic to think that Bitcoin will be worth $10,000 any time soon, or ever. There is nothing magical about Bitcoin that will make it like any other investment that has ever existed. Bitcoin will rise and fall, gradually. It just doesn't make sense to me that it will suddenly "shoot up" and stay there.
In other words, if you are invested in Bitcoin, you have to think long term. No one knows how any investment will turn out. I have been invested in the stock market for some time. The market has been good to me, but I have had some bad years too. All of my investments have grown, but grown gradually.
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Re: $10,000 when?
by
pr472
on 27/08/2014, 22:55:33 UTC
To be honest, nobody even knows if it can get past $800 again.

$10K is just too small of a chance.

Finally, a realistic opinion!
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Re: $10,000 when?
by
pr472
on 03/08/2014, 23:44:51 UTC
I don't get it. Some people are predicting that bitcoin may go up more than any investment in the history of the world. Seriously ?
One person said that bitcoin  will go up when it goes "mainstream". I agree 100 percent. When bitcoin is  easy to use, when it seen seen as safe, when it is stable, then I see bitcoin rising. You have to give the "ordinary joe" a reason to use bitcoin. Right now, people are happy to use their Visa cards. The "ordinary joe" does not care about the philosophy of bitcoin. Bitcoin will rise if it is seen as a safe, stable, good alternative to what people have  and use now. That might happen some day, but I don't see it in the near future.