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Re: Anyone here got paid in Presearch
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on 03/02/2020, 18:00:00 UTC
It is a total scam.
Slow search engine, tons of ads, and they are stealing data.
Also 100% premined Token.
Scammer Colin Pape first ripped you off with his Shitcoin and now he is selling ads and userdata.
Don´t waste your time or even money to make this guy rich.


You're entitled to your opinion, but you are not correct in your assertions.

You can search many search engines through Presearch. Our own, or others such as DuckDuckGo.

Yes, sorry, it is premined. Tokens are issued as rewards and bought by advertisers to stake against terms to have their ads displayed.

You're about the only person to have called me a scammer, personally, and I don't appreciate it. I'm super accessible on Telegram, Twitter, email, etc. and anytime someone has had a real issue, I've been able to resolve it with them.

Those who call names are generally the same ones who just like to trash people and aren't looking for actual solutions.

We are DEFINITELY not selling user data, I can guarantee you that. We don't store search terms, and take privacy very seriously.

Not trying to get rich, man. I want to change the world. Google is too powerful. We've experienced it first hand.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2011-11-14/google-is-shopcity-target-for-federal-trade-commission-complaint

All the best,

Colin

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Re: Anyone here got paid in Presearch
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presearch
on 03/02/2020, 17:52:02 UTC
I worked for more than a month. It's very hard to get their withdraw limits without any refer. So I stop working. But some of my group members said they got their payments. But I saw the price is very low so I uninstall that extension.

Hi istiak2277,

Thanks for using Presearch. Please do not consider using the service as a job though. If you are not searching for information when you need it, it's possible that your account will get flagged or your level decreased.

FYI, the price was at a low toward the end of 2019, but is up a lot since then, now that we've closed the demand side of our token economy.

All the best,

Colin
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Re: Anyone here got paid in Presearch
by
presearch
on 03/02/2020, 17:49:26 UTC
This month of december you meant to get double the tokns per search. Thy make a big deal of ot and mention it every time you search bit im still getting 0.25 per search and not 0.50. I was thinking maybe they give me 2x 0.25 bit not.

I am almost at 1000 tokens so lets see what happens. They say they need to manually check your searches for cheating.

Hi Lauren,

Thanks for using Presearch! In order to get 0.5 PRE per search, you need to switch from Google to our search engine, Dsearch.

You can do so by clicking here:

https://www.presearch.org/account/switch-to-dsearch

We don't manually check anymore as we released an automated platform last February that's been working really well.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Thanks again for your support!

Colin
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Re: Anyone here got paid in Presearch
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presearch
on 03/02/2020, 17:32:21 UTC
1. He does not pay out a lot of people. Promise people to pay them and do not : SCAM
    Telling the people you ripp off it is their fault because their searches are not legit: SCUM
2. Project has nothing to do with Blockchain/Crypto. It is just a simple Webpage with multiple search engines, you can do the same with the searchbar in your browser, without fullscreen ads. BLABLA LIAR
3. Token is 100% centralized and premined and has no use at all. Only reason it exists is ripping people off and traffic for his shitty homepage, to sell ads. SHITCOIN
4. Only traded on known scam exchanges like Yobit and HitBTC.

Don´t waste your time and/or money here. Invest in real projects. DYOR
If you already have it keep it until next crypto hype, sell when pumped and don´t look back.


Hello,

Colin here. Just found out about this thread as we've been slammed rolling out our new keyword staking platform.

https://medium.com/@presearch/presearch-launches-keyword-staking-35c6cced5733

Regarding your comments:

1. We have paid out thousands of people. No, we do not pay out those who are trying to game the system. It is fully-automated from an abuse standpoint, with transparent levels that are provided to all users.

2. Rewards are blockchain-based. Keyword staking is blockchain based. Our plan is to start fairly centralized and then decentralize the platform as we gain adoption. This is all spelled out pretty clearly in our white paper if you'd like to take a look. https://www.presearch.io/uploads/WhitePaper.pdf

We are working on a revised version now as this version is currently more than two years old.

3. You're entitled to your opinion, but we have actual users, actual traffic, and are probably more focused on conferring value to our token and most projects.

Please feel free to view our blog posts containing lots of updates on the project:

https://medium.com/@presearch

4. PRE is available on HitBTC and Probit currently. Working on new venues and will have some updates this quarter.

Feel free to message me on Telegram @colinpape or email me via colin@presearch.io at any time.

I'll try to keep a closer eye on this thread.

All the best,

Colin
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Re: Presearch (PRE) - Decentralized Search Engine
by
presearch
on 31/12/2019, 20:05:17 UTC
I received my withdrawal from Presearch last month.
But it's not worth much, maybe I'll use the tokens for some advertising.

Thanks for sharing, Warfare! And for using Presearch!

The new keyword staking platform is coming in January, so holding onto them to stake a keyword for advertising, or waiting until we've closed the token demand loop should provide the best value for your effort.

All the best in 2020! Happy New Year!

Colin
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Re: Presearch (PRE) - Decentralized Search Engine
by
presearch
on 31/10/2019, 05:01:47 UTC
I am been using Presearch since July 2018, have accumulated many PRE tokens, satisfied with the service + all improvements.
Question:
Are we soon to witness mass adoption of Pre search engine?

Hey yanika1!

Glad to hear things are working for you. We have a bunch of improvements in store, and we're close to removing some bottlenecks that will enable us to really grow.

We're already more than 1.25m registered users and 11m visits per month:

https://www.similarweb.com/website/presearch.org

We really haven't even begun active marketing yet - it's all based on our referral program - because we haven't officially launched our own actual search engine and made it default yet.

This is because we have been paying $7.50 per 1,000 queries to run https://engine.presearch.org. We are days away from implementing a new cost-free search feed that will also enable us to generate fiat revenue on top of our token-denominated revenue using backfill ad inventory.

That will then enable us to open it up so everyone can use Presearch without logging in. You'll still need to sign in to earn tokens, but it won't be a requirement.

And then we can start REALLY driving traffic to the platform. We have some pretty innovative ways to do this that we'll be revealing in the coming weeks.

This will coincide with the launch of a new ad platform that incorporates keyword staking.

Whoever stakes the most tokens to a given keyword or phrase will have their ad displayed. The actual traffic will be virtually free to start - likely for the first year.

We think this will drive some substantial demand for the token and really enable us to close the loop on the token ecosystem.

It's all coming together! Thanks for your support in the meantime!
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Re: Presearch (PRE) - Decentralized Search Engine
by
presearch
on 31/05/2019, 15:32:42 UTC
Hey everyone!

"Presearch is closing the loop on its token economy, and ensuring the future viability of the project for many years to come."

More info is available on our blog:

https://medium.com/@presearch/newpresearchads-2a53b491d49

As always, we'd love to hear your feedback and what you think!

Thanks for your support!

Colin
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Re: Presearch (PRE) - Decentralized Search Engine
by
presearch
on 17/05/2019, 14:58:58 UTC
Hey everyone!

Presearch was covered on ZDNet this week!

Love this line:

"If you would like to break Google's stranglehold on your search habits, you might want to have a look at a blockchain-based startup that aims to reward you for searching the web. "

https://www.zdnet.com/article/presearch-extension-enables-private-searching-across-on-chrome-firefox-and-brave-browsers/
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Re: Presearch (PRE) - Decentralized Search Engine
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presearch
on 29/04/2019, 23:48:21 UTC
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Re: Presearch (PRE) - Decentralized Search Engine
by
presearch
on 29/04/2019, 23:33:00 UTC
Personally i see this people as doing some bullshit thing to me. I got my account demoted and I'm angry for one of the reasons they stated. All their reasons made sense but one doesn't to me: which is using the platform for the purpose of earning tokens

So what do they think?...like I'm using it for fun or what?? what at all do they do best?? nothing... it's not a search engine, it's not anything... just some portal that you use to visit a search engine lol....it's like saying you want to go to Google but will pass through presearch first....that's all they do and nothing more.

Anyways I'm a student and i only use the platform when I wanna do assignments and yes..i write down all my searches and so I'm nit using it for the beauty of it...other than that the platform is bullshit to me

if you want better user behavior, why don't you space out time of rewards??... please do something better heheee coz there's nothing unique about presearch...it's just a way used to reach a search engine...nothing more lol

Learn from how Pivot allocate rewards and checks spam..that's what we call user behavior control...and i repeat, no one is using this bullshit site for the beauty of it

Sorry for the poor experience, huhhuh18!

We are working to improve Presearch all the time, and feedback is what's driving our evolution. Appreciate you taking the time to vent and challenge us.

I've just made a post two messages above that will hopefully shed some light on things.

Regarding Presearch not being a real search engine, if you go into 'Customize' (https://www.presearch.org/account/homepage-providers), look for 'Presearch Engine' and add it to your providers. You can drag it to the left to make it your default engine.

Aside from that, the core Presearch.org model is a reward and incentivization layer and redirect engine that provides users with a federated query field they can use to type their searches and send them into the resource of their choice.

Many Members do actually appreciate this ability and use it to search not just public resources, but private resources such as company intranets, CRMs, point of sale systems, etc.

You can use our engine directly via https://engine.presearch.org if you'd prefer to just have a totally private search engine with no login. It's so basic, it doesn't even have terms or other info. It's basically a totally dumb terminal (no analytics, anything) that provides non-personalized search results.

It literally does not track a single thing and there are no ads at this time.
Thanks for the clarification and I'm sorry I was a bit harsh with my language earlier. I was furry because the system hasn't been fully upgrade to help promote good search behaviours. You know, we all have our search patterns so you should consider that as well. Anyways pertaining to your search engine, I think you should provide a feature that permits us to login so that we don't just use it in vain. By the way, good job done on your desktop extensions. It's awesome.

Thanks for the additional feedback and for your support. We'll do our best to keep improving the platform.
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Re: Presearch (PRE) - Decentralized Search Engine
by
presearch
on 24/03/2019, 07:37:22 UTC
Personally i see this people as doing some bullshit thing to me. I got my account demoted and I'm angry for one of the reasons they stated. All their reasons made sense but one doesn't to me: which is using the platform for the purpose of earning tokens

So what do they think?...like I'm using it for fun or what?? what at all do they do best?? nothing... it's not a search engine, it's not anything... just some portal that you use to visit a search engine lol....it's like saying you want to go to Google but will pass through presearch first....that's all they do and nothing more.

Anyways I'm a student and i only use the platform when I wanna do assignments and yes..i write down all my searches and so I'm nit using it for the beauty of it...other than that the platform is bullshit to me

if you want better user behavior, why don't you space out time of rewards??... please do something better heheee coz there's nothing unique about presearch...it's just a way used to reach a search engine...nothing more lol

Learn from how Pivot allocate rewards and checks spam..that's what we call user behavior control...and i repeat, no one is using this bullshit site for the beauty of it

Sorry for the poor experience, huhhuh18!

We are working to improve Presearch all the time, and feedback is what's driving our evolution. Appreciate you taking the time to vent and challenge us.

I've just made a post two messages above that will hopefully shed some light on things.

Regarding Presearch not being a real search engine, if you go into 'Customize' (https://www.presearch.org/account/homepage-providers), look for 'Presearch Engine' and add it to your providers. You can drag it to the left to make it your default engine.

Aside from that, the core Presearch.org model is a reward and incentivization layer and redirect engine that provides users with a federated query field they can use to type their searches and send them into the resource of their choice.

Many Members do actually appreciate this ability and use it to search not just public resources, but private resources such as company intranets, CRMs, point of sale systems, etc.

You can use our engine directly via https://engine.presearch.org if you'd prefer to just have a totally private search engine with no login. It's so basic, it doesn't even have terms or other info. It's basically a totally dumb terminal (no analytics, anything) that provides non-personalized search results.

It literally does not track a single thing and there are no ads at this time.
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Re: Presearch (PRE) - Decentralized Search Engine
by
presearch
on 24/03/2019, 07:30:26 UTC

This is a great write-up! Thanks for taking the time to put it together.

Please feel free to share it to https://t.me/presearch

Thank you for your interest in Presearch!

Colin

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Re: How can you review accounts if you don't save any informations?
by
presearch
on 24/03/2019, 07:28:35 UTC
I'm wondering how you can review an account about the respect of the policy if you are not suppose to collect any search data or activity data about members?

If privacy is your main concern, what data are you collecting to analyse?

How can you determine that at the withdrawal moment a report with no data??

I had the perfect answer about this question on Telegram from an admin:  "The review is based on search pattern and not what you search."

So I still believe in their privacy! Gonna HODL!!

Thanks for your support, CryptoTokenAnalyst.

We do not store or view search terms.

It is really based on your patterns, and requires a fair bit of time to identify abuse.

That is why the token withdrawal threshold (1,000 eligible tokens) is on the high side.

Time provides data to make a real-time determination of how similar your behavior is to behavior it has been trained by a human (often myself and others like Lindsay, Jeff and Thomas on our team) to identify as skewing toward 'mining' tokens or using bots.

It communicates with the Member by providing them with a 'level' that scales from 0 to 10, with 10 being the least likely to be trying to collect tokens by skewing their search intent (ex. searching more than needed for things that you aren't truly looking for information on - for example: 'aaabbbccc' or 'random word').

One of the biggest challenges with incentivized search is that if you lose true search intent, the quality of the query decreases significantly. Poor quality equals a lower signal to noise ratio, making the overall stream of queries less valuable to those who may want to target their sponsorships to the keyword being searched, which significantly improves ROI while providing searchers with a more relevant, less distracting message (which they are compensated with PRE tokens to be exposed to).

This is the real underlying magic to Google's Adwords system, which is the most successful business model in history from an ROI standpoint (for both Google and marketers).

Part of Presearch's underlying magic is the token reward system, and the fact that the action and reward are so directly related. Hit search, receive a reward visualized as a token.

To protect the magic of both models is critical to the success of the project's token economics. It is possible to run alternative monetization models, but the token is the value storage unit that aligns both Members and Sponsors. To do it similar to BAT and others are doing it does break the direct alignment, whereby a token really isn't the actual value storage unit and is an abstracted layer primarily designed for market trading and project funding.

Nothing wrong with that, but just a different level than the Presearch approach.

So, all that being said, protecting the project from abuse is extremely important. It is also extremely complex. We think we have developed a pretty solid approach, but it is one that is in the early days and will certainly evolve.

We must continue to improve our communication with Members, provide value to Sponsors, and also improve our transparency with regard to this process and others.

We are moving in that direction as we put our initial efforts out into the public for trial and feedback.

We appreciate you and others taking the time to help us learn and improve. Please keep the feedback, good or bad, coming.

Thanks for your interest in Presearch!

Colin
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Re: Presearch (PRE) - Decentralized Search Engine
by
presearch
on 12/03/2019, 16:45:24 UTC
I have been using Presearch for several days and I collect coins for searching in your browser. I would like to know if there is any time or quantity limit that I need to achieve in order to be able to withdraw collected PRE?

Hi GreatBug!

Thanks for trying it out. Smiley

Yes, we have a fairly high withdrawal threshold right now of 1,000 PRE to protect the project from abuse.

We implemented a new level-based system last month that algorithmically identifies patterns of abuse and assigns a level to each member. This level is then multiplied against the number of tokens you've collected to determine the number that are eligible for withdrawal.

The system isn't perfect, but it's been a good first effort to improve communication with members and provide us with a scalable means for protecting the project without resorting to KYC-like intrusions into privacy.

We will have 1m members before the end of the month, and hundreds of people have successfully withdrawn their tokens.

We did have some communication challenges early on, but have made significant progress in the past two months in particular.

You can read more here:

https://medium.com/@presearch/https-medium-com-presearch-new-feature-rewards-verification-system-af39d7ed648e

Please let me know if you have any questions.

All the best,

Colin
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Re: Presearch (PRE) - Decentralized Search Engine
by
presearch
on 11/02/2019, 23:13:23 UTC
The project has many competitors ranging from Google to projects on the blockchain. I would like to know how good your algorithm is? And most importantly, what is your project monetization plan after 10k daily visits?

Hi Syndrome!

You can try it yourself at https://engine.presearch.org. No sign-up required.

In particular, if you try a query for a crypto like Bitcoin or BTC, you'll see an example of our community packages.

If you do a currency conversion query like '10 USD to CAD', you'll see a member-submitted package.

Details on creating community packages are available here:

https://github.com/PresearchOfficial/presearch-packages

We have a proprietary ad platform that we're launching at the end of the month.

We've developed a token sponsorship model that enables sponsors to provide a fraction of a token to a searcher who views their ad.

Here's a sneak peak at a new video that we're releasing soon: https://vimeo.com/natelacroix/review/312878844/d19b345e43

We already have more than 250k daily active users and almost 900k registered users.
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Re: Presearch (PRE) - Decentralized Search Engine
by
presearch
on 11/02/2019, 20:10:50 UTC
Are you guys a competitor of Bitclave? Which others would you also consider being your competitors in the space?

Yes, Bitclave would be a competitor. There are a large number of alternative search engines - ex. DuckDuckGo, Ecosia, startpage.com, and many others. Google of course. We are the only one with a working search engine that actually utilizes a token tor reward members and pay for ads though. I don't expect that this will be the case forever, but right now, we are leading the blockchain/crypto search space.

Ok I confess I didn't know how far you've gotten then as I lost some interest in decentralized search a while ago. It is probably the hardest space to conquer with google being in the driving seat. The synergies they can create with all the data they have are just amazingly strong. It may take decades to get even close to them, wouldn't it?

Yes, it's a massive challenge, but also a huge opportunity. The space is so large and valuable, that you really don't need to dominate the category. We believe that due to our community-focused model and the integration of our PRE token to align everyone's interest, that we'll be able to make a significant dent over time.

And besides, we don't need to beat Google - you can search Google through Presearch. Smiley

We are just driving a thin wedge between people's existing search behaviour to minimize the friction. Once people start accumulating tokens, they have some skin in the game and are more willing to do some additional work, spread the word actively and build the network.

We're on track to exceed the early growth of both Google and DuckDuckGo already, and we haven't really even tried to expand yet.

We just did a major release yesterday of a new anti-abuse platform to prevent people from gaming the system. There's a bit of work involved to bring everyone up to speed, but so far the feedback has been largely positive. Now that it's in place, it's almost go time! Cheesy

Thanks for your interest! Please feel free to join at https://www.presearch.org if you like.

Alright, I will obviously have to take a deeper look at your stuff.

As for the skin in the game part that you mentioned, I generally agree with that. The only issue is that I read about some other platform which aims to monetize data, that the actual reward is just not really big enough to get the Western world to care about their search behavior. Are there any realistic quantitative examples you could provide?

Thanks, dzonikg28!

Yes, I think that's definitely an issue to contend with, especially during crypto winter... I think we've been fortunate that many people believe Presearch has the potential to be highly valuable in the future, and are thinking more about the future value of their rewards than the current value... It seems to help a lot...

But the other thing is that it's really about gamification - not just the monetary value... People like the real-time feedback they get when they search and the coin flips, and their balance is prominently displayed and increases constantly.

We will also be creating different ways for people to spend their PRE and are focused on making it as easy as possible for them to convert their PRE to things they value significantly.

On top of that, the platform itself does offer significant advantage for power users - we're basically providing people with a faster, easier way to search specific resources. Ex. I do domain name lookups, search our CRM system, our admin portal, etc., all from the same field, rather than having to bookmark them, wait for each site to load, click into the search field and search. Instead, I just pull up Presearch, type my query and then click the icon for where I want to direct my search.

This doesn't appeal to everyone, but we've been impressed by how many people find it valuable. It's a nice little hack.

And then there's our mobile app for voice search. Not sure if you're on iOS, but if so, you may want to check it out in the app store.

There's an invite code - 'tapandhodl'... Basically, to search, you just tap the Presearch logo and hold it down while you speak...

You can deep search various apps on your phone - ex. say 'Presearch Google Maps for buffalo, new york' and it'll launch Google Maps and run your query there.

There are currently 80 or so providers in the system, but hundreds more are on the way.

It's an exciting space to be in because it's so significant in scope and depth... Many, many opportunities to integrate tokenomics to create feedback loops that incentivize behaviour and generate value...

As long as we denominate our sponsorships / ad units with PRE and make that the central unit of account, as the platform grows, the need for tokens will also increase.

We are also seizing the opportunity to connect with people who are fed up with Google and Facebook dominating the web, and who want an alternative. We protect and respect their privacy, and so that is a significant selling feature as well.

Now, most of that was anecdotal, quantitatively, we've chosen not to install analytics on the platform to go with our focus on privacy, and that makes it a little challenging.

From our token sale, where we did collect location information, more than 60% of our more than 4,000 purchasers were located in North America.

It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out. We'll keep the BitcoinTalk community posted as things progress!

Awesome, thanks for taking the time to respond in such detail. Always good to see the people behind projects taking questions seriously. I'll pay close attention to Presearch now and will give that mobile app a try.

My pleasure! Thanks for the great questions and kind words. Let me know if you have any others or feedback on anything!
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Re: Presearch (PRE) - Decentralized Search Engine
by
presearch
on 08/02/2019, 14:34:04 UTC
Are you guys a competitor of Bitclave? Which others would you also consider being your competitors in the space?

Yes, Bitclave would be a competitor. There are a large number of alternative search engines - ex. DuckDuckGo, Ecosia, startpage.com, and many others. Google of course. We are the only one with a working search engine that actually utilizes a token tor reward members and pay for ads though. I don't expect that this will be the case forever, but right now, we are leading the blockchain/crypto search space.

Ok I confess I didn't know how far you've gotten then as I lost some interest in decentralized search a while ago. It is probably the hardest space to conquer with google being in the driving seat. The synergies they can create with all the data they have are just amazingly strong. It may take decades to get even close to them, wouldn't it?

Yes, it's a massive challenge, but also a huge opportunity. The space is so large and valuable, that you really don't need to dominate the category. We believe that due to our community-focused model and the integration of our PRE token to align everyone's interest, that we'll be able to make a significant dent over time.

And besides, we don't need to beat Google - you can search Google through Presearch. Smiley

We are just driving a thin wedge between people's existing search behaviour to minimize the friction. Once people start accumulating tokens, they have some skin in the game and are more willing to do some additional work, spread the word actively and build the network.

We're on track to exceed the early growth of both Google and DuckDuckGo already, and we haven't really even tried to expand yet.

We just did a major release yesterday of a new anti-abuse platform to prevent people from gaming the system. There's a bit of work involved to bring everyone up to speed, but so far the feedback has been largely positive. Now that it's in place, it's almost go time! Cheesy

Thanks for your interest! Please feel free to join at https://www.presearch.org if you like.

Alright, I will obviously have to take a deeper look at your stuff.

As for the skin in the game part that you mentioned, I generally agree with that. The only issue is that I read about some other platform which aims to monetize data, that the actual reward is just not really big enough to get the Western world to care about their search behavior. Are there any realistic quantitative examples you could provide?

Thanks, dzonikg28!

Yes, I think that's definitely an issue to contend with, especially during crypto winter... I think we've been fortunate that many people believe Presearch has the potential to be highly valuable in the future, and are thinking more about the future value of their rewards than the current value... It seems to help a lot...

But the other thing is that it's really about gamification - not just the monetary value... People like the real-time feedback they get when they search and the coin flips, and their balance is prominently displayed and increases constantly.

We will also be creating different ways for people to spend their PRE and are focused on making it as easy as possible for them to convert their PRE to things they value significantly.

On top of that, the platform itself does offer significant advantage for power users - we're basically providing people with a faster, easier way to search specific resources. Ex. I do domain name lookups, search our CRM system, our admin portal, etc., all from the same field, rather than having to bookmark them, wait for each site to load, click into the search field and search. Instead, I just pull up Presearch, type my query and then click the icon for where I want to direct my search.

This doesn't appeal to everyone, but we've been impressed by how many people find it valuable. It's a nice little hack.

And then there's our mobile app for voice search. Not sure if you're on iOS, but if so, you may want to check it out in the app store.

There's an invite code - 'tapandhodl'... Basically, to search, you just tap the Presearch logo and hold it down while you speak...

You can deep search various apps on your phone - ex. say 'Presearch Google Maps for buffalo, new york' and it'll launch Google Maps and run your query there.

There are currently 80 or so providers in the system, but hundreds more are on the way.

It's an exciting space to be in because it's so significant in scope and depth... Many, many opportunities to integrate tokenomics to create feedback loops that incentivize behaviour and generate value...

As long as we denominate our sponsorships / ad units with PRE and make that the central unit of account, as the platform grows, the need for tokens will also increase.

We are also seizing the opportunity to connect with people who are fed up with Google and Facebook dominating the web, and who want an alternative. We protect and respect their privacy, and so that is a significant selling feature as well.

Now, most of that was anecdotal, quantitatively, we've chosen not to install analytics on the platform to go with our focus on privacy, and that makes it a little challenging.

From our token sale, where we did collect location information, more than 60% of our more than 4,000 purchasers were located in North America.

It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out. We'll keep the BitcoinTalk community posted as things progress!
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Re: Presearch (PRE) - Decentralized Search Engine
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presearch
on 07/02/2019, 16:51:57 UTC
Are you guys a competitor of Bitclave? Which others would you also consider being your competitors in the space?

Yes, Bitclave would be a competitor. There are a large number of alternative search engines - ex. DuckDuckGo, Ecosia, startpage.com, and many others. Google of course. We are the only one with a working search engine that actually utilizes a token tor reward members and pay for ads though. I don't expect that this will be the case forever, but right now, we are leading the blockchain/crypto search space.

Ok I confess I didn't know how far you've gotten then as I lost some interest in decentralized search a while ago. It is probably the hardest space to conquer with google being in the driving seat. The synergies they can create with all the data they have are just amazingly strong. It may take decades to get even close to them, wouldn't it?

Yes, it's a massive challenge, but also a huge opportunity. The space is so large and valuable, that you really don't need to dominate the category. We believe that due to our community-focused model and the integration of our PRE token to align everyone's interest, that we'll be able to make a significant dent over time.

And besides, we don't need to beat Google - you can search Google through Presearch. Smiley

We are just driving a thin wedge between people's existing search behaviour to minimize the friction. Once people start accumulating tokens, they have some skin in the game and are more willing to do some additional work, spread the word actively and build the network.

We're on track to exceed the early growth of both Google and DuckDuckGo already, and we haven't really even tried to expand yet.

We just did a major release yesterday of a new anti-abuse platform to prevent people from gaming the system. There's a bit of work involved to bring everyone up to speed, but so far the feedback has been largely positive. Now that it's in place, it's almost go time! Cheesy

Thanks for your interest! Please feel free to join at https://www.presearch.org if you like.
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on 07/02/2019, 04:46:34 UTC
Are you guys a competitor of Bitclave? Which others would you also consider being your competitors in the space?

Yes, Bitclave would be a competitor. There are a large number of alternative search engines - ex. DuckDuckGo, Ecosia, startpage.com, and many others. Google of course. We are the only one with a working search engine that actually utilizes a token tor reward members and pay for ads though. I don't expect that this will be the case forever, but right now, we are leading the blockchain/crypto search space.
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on 07/02/2019, 04:44:14 UTC
Interesting... I have to admit you avoid kyc by using your 'sytem'. I wish you to succeed in achieving your goals anyway, I will continue to follow the advancement of Presearch.

Thanks for your support, GrosWesh! Would love to continue to count you as a member of Presearch!