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XCP is going to #2 market cap. Give it a month or two.

The design looks very vulnerable to 51% type attacks, much more so than Bitcoin even. Wouldn't trust it with my money.

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Please add PayProCoin https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=643028.740
Exchange: C-CEX

I am pretty damn sure the existence of Silk Road has saved hundreds, if not thousands of lives, thanks to less slinging and therefore violence having to take to the streets.

Yes, sorry. Be more cautious next time!

Nice to see some buying volume in response to the premine burn. You really wanna make that news more visible. The first post in this thread should always be up to date with the latest news!

And once again - could we merge-mine PRO with BTC and other SHA-256 coins?

Can PRO be merge-mined with Bitcoin and other SHA-256 coins yet?

Also, unlimited mining is gonna make quite many people skeptic, as this guarantees inflation and loss of buying power / value over time. I suggest a block reward halving every 2-4 years and no more than 1 billion coins total (after which transaction fees should be the reward), or it can get very hard to trade PRO when it is gonna be worth less than 1 satoshi :/

Think about it!

I was the first to call bholzer out over 2 weeks ago. It's a shame people got over excited and donated even without escrow. I'm not too impressed with the way he's chosen to completely abandon any sense of accountability for his words. Doesn't inspire much confidence in any Murraycoin folks that happen to stumble upon this, either.

Why aren't you guys voting for PRO on C-CEX? Can this and the Mintpal vote be added to the first post?

It says now that ICO is to be used for
"1 Mintpal Voting (and strictly voting for them):
We know that we need to focus on just one Big Exchange entering.
We don't need to loose any time with other similar tasks for any other exchange.
That is our goal and we'll reach it as soon as possible."

But Mintpal doesn't accept paid votes anymore and after just 6 weeks (so 5 or 6 more coins I think) it will not choose any coins from the vote list anymore. Top 5 looks just too far to reach, unless there is a big give away advertised which pays people for voting us on Mintpal. If that doesn't happen, then I think we should focus on C-CEX for now because that is realistic.

Also, we could surely allocate a bit of funds for hosting a small give-away on C-CEX once it's listed, so that more people would get involved with PRO.

And one GREAT feature available for coins listed on C-CEX is this: https://c-cex.com/?id=merch

This allows any website/retailer to safely accept PRO as payment for products or services, at no cost!

This would also be the step we need to make to get listed on Coin Market Cap websites, which will bring more visibility.

I just got PayProCoin added to the voting at C-CEX, one of the most secure and respectable emerging medium-volume exchanges, where many coins (such as Minerals/MIN) made their first break and enjoyed even upwards of dozens of bitcoins in daily trade volume, before getting added to one of the big 4 exchanges. Only 170 or so votes will get us on there, next voting is over in 3 days and 15 hours!

In addition to free voting (once per day I think, but could be once, ever, for each coin you support) you can also buy pay-votes by sending bitcoins to this address: 1JS3qx5VUFuQBEaV2r7AobJbS7nUBf7GrN - every 0.001 BTC counts as one vote!
So, 0.17 BTC would probably get us listed even without accounting for collection of human votes! What do you think about that, guys?

Anyway, vote PayProCoin on C-CEX!

minerjoen: Well, my point was that for a coin that looks for longevity and stability from day one, the algo does not make much of a difference in time scales longer than a couple years, after which the same problem (ASICs!) would create loss of stability that could have been avoided by adjusting the infrastructure to a situation where ASICs support the network from day one and will continue to do so as long as mining remains profitable. See what happened to Litecoin when Scrypt ASICs came out. SHA-256 coins (and new Scrypt coins too, basically) avoid having to ever deal with such a possible disaster.

Once again - I do have a solution at hand which allows small miners to get their fair share. Therefore, SHA-256 will most likely remain a very reasonable algo choice as long as it remains safe and not easily cracked, which will be no sooner than a long, long time from now... The less gimmicks and fads surrounding the coin, the more attention can be directed at the real core values.

You do know that every X algo is also sooner or later going to have special mining hardware for it? This only delays the outcome which SHA-256 are not afraid to live with. And everyone knows it, so X coin investors have yet more incentive to dump early, because the value is guaranteed to fall at some point due to new ASICs which then erase the only advantage most of these coins have. SHA-256 coins start with ASICs at square one, so they have nothing to lose in that aspect and can focus on other priorities. This is just my observation.

Yes, small miners are out of luck here, but alternative solutions are possible - I will personally ensure a simple but effective solution allows small miners back into the game, among other key changes, if Darren hears my proposal out.

Most people look for innovation in all the wrong places, hashing algorithm being one of them. All the new ones seem to achieve is attracting pump & dump groups, while hardly affecting the difference in network security. If a coin's sole innovation is a fancy new hashing algo, that's almost a guarantee that within a month the only people still holding any of that coin will be bag holders who bought in at the top of a pump and are now puzzled over why nobody wants to buy their coins for even half of what they paid for them. Still, few people recognize what PRO can bring to the table, with the right guidance. Interesting days are coming up ahead, folks.

Hey Darren, I have sent you a private message with a tempting business proposal that all stakeholders of PayProCoin could soon benefit from.

Nice plan, lol.

I don't think identities of the people or person that controls key assets of development and/or funding should be revealed. I would in fact feel less safe as an investor if this was revealed than if everyone remained completely anonymous. There have been precedents of people who have been brutally harassed, threatened or got their funds and control over the coin extorted from them.

What is your plan for blockchain integration? What part will be integrated? How will it be verified by the network? Without this information the game is absolutely useless, you know? You must be able to at least describe the principles, the logic and reason behind it. Then people will be interested in this.