Since three weeks has passed and greenplastic doesn’t seem inclined to post the transaction id or the messages from the scammer in this thread (or in PM?), I feel I can withdraw my offer for some reimbursement of the allegedly stolen coins.

I truly wish all of you all the best, even if this wish isn’t reciprocal. Live well!

If I (or my poor opsec) truly is to blame for greenplastic doing a fraudulent transaction (which he has yet to be prove), I might actually be willing to compensate him to some extend, yes, depending on the final deal he allegedly made with the scammer.

This would of course require undoubtful public proof of him being scammed:

- A transaction with reasonable value within the timespan of the hack and my first warning. Undoubtful proof would of course be him signing a transaction with these private keys.

- This transaction must naturaly match the shared private messages between him and the scammer. Undoubtful proof would be admin confirming these PMs were exchanged.

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I will not be as active in this forum going forward, as it's all been quite exhausting, but I will check in once in a while; and if greenplastics posts the proof I will reimburse some of the damage. There might be a easy answer to all of this, but the ambiguity has taken its toll on me (I would now be compensating a stupid mistake from a senior for the sake of truth). I would also like to apologize once again to every participant here including greenplastics and all the other senior members I trusted, and at some point perhaps trusted me. This is not how I intented this to end.

If this indeed is true, why not prove it? It would be so easy... You haven't actually answered a single one of my questions! If you do that I will leave you in peace for ALL eternity and there would be absolutely no doubt. You're just saying vague shit instead, that doesn't prove anything. Why dont the other senior members require that you post the txtid at least? Is there any reason not to?

If you really did send the funds to someone on the Godwine account I'm deeply sorry for doubting you, I will eat all my words and HUMBLY apologize. Again, all this requieres is a simple proof from you.


No, you wont.

I'm really sorry for casting doubt on a trusted community member, and I fully understand why you are very skeptical of my claims. You're probably right about no one wanting to buy the coins anymore, but thats not really why I'm still here either: I'm still here to prove I didn't scam anyone (as I've been accused of numerous times now), and I would love to get the truth as to what really happened from greenplastic.

I mean by posting the txid with a preferably signed transaction would undoubtedly be proof of the scam payment. The transaction should be similar to what he discussed with the scammer, and he should provide these messages either to me in private or publicly. He claimed he lost a shit ton of money, and some people here claimed i scammed him, why aren't he bothered to prove it?

If any of you trusted users (Lutpin, Zepher, minerjones) want to somehow talk with me (videomessage) or meet me IRL, I'm more than willing to.


Okey, thanks a lot. I didn't know.

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Alrigh guys, this is just turning in to namecalling and distrust, but please, please understand I'm only staying here to get a clarification, and find out the truth as to what happened. I will wait for greenplastic or Zepher to publicize the txid and the messages from the scammer and we can take it from there...

Thank you for stepping up and at least partly believing me realediston!

I really just want to know the truth here as well. The theory you posted as "4)" might actually be what really happened here, or something close to it. I doubt greenplastic has direct control over my account, but at least someone does! Who here has the power to change/reset passphrases? I honestly want me to be wrong, and greenplastic to be right in this matter, I just still really doubt he sent lots of BTC to a untrusted first time seller.


I'm looking forward to him posting the tx as well, I have been requesting this txid for nearly 24 hours now.


Do you still think he is willing to honor the deal? I might be prone... I'm getting so frustrated here I really want to prove to the greater community that I didn't try to scam greenplastic or anyone else. How would that even be possible with my low trust rating? I'm sure no one here would send me payment first without escrow. If minerjones and greenplastic still are willing I will highly consider sending minerjones the coins, and he can check that they are as advertised. If they are, he can in turn sell them to greenplastic at the original bid. This will be a 100% safe process for both the buyer and me, the seller. If he truly want the coins at the rate he offered, he would accept this offer, as there is literally zero risk for him.



I know of the phishing attempt you and realediston are talking about (a PM message with a link allegedly reffering about one of my posts or something). I did not click that link, and quite certain I have been compromised in a different way.


I really try to not be a trash member by warning the other members of this community of a possible hacked/compromised/gone rogue account. You dont seem to have any trust rating yourself and could absolutely be a compromised account as well.

The offer I gave greenplastic stands for you as well. If you accept my minerjones offer and pay him your last bid in this auction, you would also prove you're not compromised/sockpuppet.

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If either user here (greenplastic or teeGUMES) accepts my offer I want all dealings to be done in public, including btc addresses, shipment details etc. Would also be nice if minerjones would chime in here.


Oh dear. If you say what is true, I'm really sorry for causing so much concern here. At this point I'm mostly interesten in the thruth to be honest. If you are capable of getting that txid, please do it, and please post it here publicly for everybody to see. I would also love to see the messages sent by the alleged scammer from my account. If this is posted, and especially if the admin confirms these messages were sent from my account, greenplastic was scammed, he is indeed telling the truth and my allegations can be dismissed entierly.

Like I've said earlier, I understand I'm the weaker, and less trusted part, in this situation. It truly is a David versus Goliath battle. Therefore I please ask you to look at the facts at hand, and not only the reputation of the userhandle. I could have just left if I really scammed someone, or tried to and was exposed, but I'm not and are never going to. I stay because I want senior members to stay careful while dealing with greenplastic in the future, at least until he disproves my allegations.


This! This is what I can't fathom as well. Why would he ever do that?


That's the central question, and if he can answer that I will believe he was indeed scammed, as he is trying to make the community believe. The way I see it there are now three possibilities:

1) greenplastic tried to scam me. Even with an escrow, the escrow would probably have sided with him, and not released any funds to me, if I sent the coins and he claimed I didn't. He got cold feet when I suggested we used minerjones reshipping service (as this would make such a scam attempt impossible).

2) greenplastic is compromised. Someone else is in possesion of his account as of typing. This would explain the silence and reluctance to give answers to very simple questions.
 
3) greenplastic was indeed scammed, and I'm making a shit load of drama out of nothing. In this case it should be easy for him to publicly disclose the used btc address as well as the messages he recieved from a scammer. These allegations could be disproven so easily, why aren't they?

Well, I might be reaching, I'm truly not sure, that is why I'm letting you guys decide. Believe me, I'm doing this for you guys, not for myself.
But dont you agree its weird if greenplastic has sent several bitcoin to a completely new member without an escrow?
I'm off for the night as well. I hope greenplastic will have answered the very simple questions he has avoided many times when I get back. If he does this to a satisfying degree, I will log off and never bother anyone here again. Until then I feel some form of explanations is needed.

Well, thats what I'm asking for proof of! A simple txid + the original messages from the scammer. If admins here can check inbox messages and confirm this then the case would be "solved". Why would greenplastic claim he sent the BTC if he didn't? Not necessarily to guilt trip me into sending him coins, but to get out of this deal when he got cold feet for some reason.

I think this is a very good sum up of the situation. As you say, I doubt anyone has the intention of trading with me here anymore, so I'm mainly staying to explain the way I see things. I've also spent a lot of time and attention to these forums lately, and it saddens me that nothing came of this auction, and it would end in such a way. For that I apologize to all participants.

I know the suspicions I raised earlier are extremely serious. That is why I want senior participants to be aware of them, and give greenplastic a chance to give brief answers/proofs to the issues I raised.

I at least get the feeling greenplastic didn't want to do the transaction for some reason or another. Me requiring a trusted set up with minerjones might not have been that reason.

Well, I honestly hope I'm wrong about that. That means my coins really are worth that much...


Backup is always nice But could you please give some fast replies to my two points outlined above. I'm probably overreacting. But if you were scammed by my old account I feel you should be honest and open about it. You also casted doubt over the genuinity of my new account (in this thread) after I sent you proof in PM, why?

Yes, I'm sure I'm just getting emotional and fired up after getting hacked. I understand greenplastic is a deeply trusted member here unlike me, and I'm the first to admit I might be wrong and causing a lot of drama over nothing. There are, however, some simple points I would hope greenplastic could clarify for me:

- Did you send the payment as you stated earlier in this thread? How many and to what address? Did you use an escrow? If you didn't; why on earth would you just send the btc directly to a first-time seller without any guarantees?
- If there was a scammer (like you claim), posing as me, sending you a btc address, can you please release these messages either to me in private or to the public?

I dont do that and thanks for finally giving a sign of life.

But please tell me you didn't send any funds like you stated earlier? This is my biggest worry!

Hello everyone! PLEASE READ THIS
(And correct me if I'm wrong)

I'm posting this publicly, so other trusted members can chime in here for the sake of transparancy.

Silence is a very strange way of doing buisness, greenplastic. Can't you publilcly prove it, if you payed for the coins through some escrow? At least there should be a btc address? Can you please post it in the forum thread for the sake of transparancy. Please answer my PM's, as I can see you have been online multiple times. Why aren't you communicating privately or publicly if you supposedly have just been scammed for thousands of dollars?

Can you please share the messages sent from my old account (Godwin) after the last real message from me, which I posted above? (If these actually exists). These messages would be the scammer, and it should be posted publicly!

The silence here is really making me prone to conspiracy: I'm starting to suspect I've been the victim of an attempted scam, which was abandoned once I wanted proper reshipping terms through minerjones. I also suspect greenplastic was bidding against a friend/sockpuppet in teeGUMES to artifically drive the price up, making me more suspectible to a fast deal without proper safeguards.

This is a warning to the other members: You should be extremely careful trading with greenplastic until he has posted the requested information publicly, and answered these allegations. I dont think they neccesarilly all are true, but again, the lack of response is making me nervous either me or greenplastic has been the victim of a scam attempt.

I really, honestly, hope you didn't send a single BTC greenplastic. Why would you even do that so fast? The last message I sent you from my old account, the one I've posted publicly, and where the deal is FAR from finalized, was sent a couple of hours before I warned you both in private message that I couldn't access my account. If what you say is true (you having payed), you have to have paid in that small timespan. Please provide that transaction id.

I dont know how my passwords keep changing. I dont want to take this conspiracy to far; but my passwords has been changed on two accounts now. The password has been changed on this account as well, so I dont think I will be able to access it after the auto-login is over. Whats happening here, mods?

No, I'm really certain the password has been changed. I even wrote it down, and someone other than me was online at some point earlier today. I now think the password on this account has been changed as well, since I apperently dont have the right password when trying to change my account mail 
I have that last copy of correspondence because it was a long message and I wrote it first in Word. I still have the window open in my computer including greenplastic's original message to me.

Can some of the mods please chime in on this? You can freely share all private messages between me (on the original Godwin account) and other members if needed, to prove the correctness of my message.

Please give an answer greenplastic. Who did you pay to and to what btc address? And which escrow did you use? You are online and dont seem to care about the payment (several bitcoins!) you supposedly just sent to a scammer.

Thank you Lutpin. I am indeed. Took some more pictures now as additional proof as well:

http://imgur.com/a/kyPX8

Since greenplastic doesn't answer my PM's I will post the last private message I sent him in pm from when I had access to my 'Godwine' account (this is the only message I think I still got, as it's still saved in my word editor, but some other trusted users on this forum will probably recognize the particular price of 4.5 BTC for the 3 BTC and/or the links included in this message), as additional proof:

I'm really worrie here. I think I just got hacked. At least someone else is 'online' on my account   Can you please post the btc address and tell me who you used as escrow so he can confirm this? Did you use minerjones as I first suggested? The real me never gave away a btc-address, and like I said, I can post pictures to prove I'm the original owner of the "Godwine" account.

To who? I assume you used an escrow?

I can't access my earlier account "Godwine" and believe I've been hacked somehow. I can see the user is logged in right now, but this is NOT the real Godwine, please be careful.

If the user "Godwine" has sent you any meesages in the last couple of hours this is NOT me.

I can prove I'm the real owner of the earlier listed NOLAcoins if anyone wants proof in the form of fresh pictures.

Is there any way to get ones account back? Would appreciate any help.