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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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on 25/04/2015, 04:56:45 UTC
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on 23/04/2015, 20:34:03 UTC
it would make perfect sense miavitor. to gain back his control
i hope team xpy contacted fbi etc to find out for real if its connected


on a additional note:
anyone notice that the supposed hack source is running coinstand 0.1.0
the first time it was launched to the public on the official coinstand.com domain was 0.0.9 which can be seen in archive.today. is this the old dev server Mr. Garbanzo had (and forgot to remove page testing after giving it to some hacker to use) and is running the last version supplied to him by Adam? can you shine some light which was the last version your devs worked on

the current iteration doesnt have any version numbering

http://52.11.137.127/#/aboutus was this address in the original beta release? if i remember right there was no contact info in the public beta. if that is correct then that should narrow the possible hack sources down to handful of people. my memory could be wrong tho. maybe someone archived the 0.0.9


The FBI has been contacted.

In terms of the version number the 0.1.0 was the second devs work. And as for who had direct access to that account and AWS... the account was not setup by us nor did we own it.


I am issuing a challenge to Team XPY (or whoever the hell is in charge this week.)


1.You recently mentioned "Security Team", seeing as how you've never publicly discussed having one before, when did this team come into play? Who are they?
2. How many security audits have been performed by an EXTERNAL entity? ie NOT a person otherwise associated with this project in any way shape or form? If ANY have been performed, there should be reports? How on earth did a "malicious SSH key" remain behind on your server? Please enlighten us.
3. What measures are being taken to secure the web app? The infrastructure? Nothing has been published as far as following industry best practices, least privilege, credential accountability, defense in depth, NOTHING. Security isn't a marketing tactic, it's a way of doing things right. EXAMPLE.
4. What insurances are in place for the seemingly inevitable occasion that an attacker cleans out the entire hot wallet or wreaks havoc on the application databases?

Please, answer these questions, not for me (because I have nothing at stake in your scheme), but for the last remaining folks who are TRUSTING YOU with their "money".


Feel free to answer here or here.
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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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on 23/04/2015, 18:49:33 UTC
It is safe to assume, however, that the angle of the camera and or lack of proper lighting may have been used to conceal the true scale of the (actual) mining operation.

As someone else mentioned, what is so amazing is how many of the educated guesses, "FUD", and speculation on this thread turned out to be 100% spot on (including the fact you mentioned above).

Eric, prior to the 5 Ph/s (or was it 4.5 Ph/s? whatever ..) order from Bitmain, what was the actual scope of the scrypt and sha256 operation?  That is an important question and nowhere in any of the email leaks or elsewhere have I seen any firm numbers.  Assuming you are coming clean as you now seem to be, you must have some pretty good idea about the hash rates that were in existence in September/October/November while the whole hashlet thing was getting pumped.

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prior to the 5 Ph/s (or was it 4.5 Ph/s? whatever ..) order from Bitmain, what was the actual scope of the scrypt and sha256 operation?

I honestly have no idea. I was never given those numbers nor were they available to me. At this point, it would make no difference to me to share them if I did know so I have no reason to withhold it.

What I do know, from things he said internally, is that JG's "strategy" did not involve a 1:1 ratio of 'hash rate sold' versus 'hash rate in stock'. Fractional Reserve, as it's called.


EDIT: If I had to GUESS, I'd guess about 1 to 1.5 PH at the peak of the operation.*


*This is a GUESS and is strictly based on my own indirect observations.
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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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on 23/04/2015, 18:03:12 UTC


Actually, no. Despite all the chatter about that video, Joe Mordica was actually standing among real, hashing, heat-generating miners. Prior to the Hangout going live, Joe's audio was enabled and it was literally just a wall of noise coming through from his end so he decided to mute himself for the live call. Retroactively, that didn't help the case much.

It is safe to assume, however, that the angle of the camera and or lack of proper lighting may have been used to conceal the true scale of the (actual) mining operation.
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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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recon_eric
on 23/04/2015, 16:56:46 UTC
Ok this is just hysterical... Not sure how I missed the OP, but it's gone now (as in deleted) but the thread remains.

http://i.imgur.com/vj1FJA5.png

As many intelligent people know, Hashtalk user Paybase has always been Josh (or someone directly reporting to Josh.)

However, this post made by Paybase was mysteriously deleted shortly after and thread left intact.

Then, in true JG fashion, the denial comes into play.

http://i.imgur.com/OJUgADd.png

Even HT'ers know who's behind it.
http://i.imgur.com/tzP4wmZ.png




If that doesn't make you laugh, then this should.
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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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on 23/04/2015, 15:47:45 UTC
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eric, are we selling the 10k a day ?
I never did oblige his demands for me to dump XPY on his behalf and that pissed him off. I also resigned the next day.

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Our scoping of this was delayed yesterday by Evan quitting.    I
    talked to him and he is staying.   It took some time.   His reasons
    were about the same as Joe and Eric so I explained everything to him.

Yep. I was very vocal internally about my findings. Once I knew the truth, I shared it with anyone that would listen, Josh even emailed me on one of my last days asking me to stop talking to any employees. His curtain of deception was coming down.

Joe left shortly after I spoke with him and so did many others.
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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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on 23/04/2015, 14:51:20 UTC
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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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on 23/04/2015, 14:44:38 UTC
The irony of getting caught in a lie...

http://i.imgur.com/zffZNmS.png
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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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on 23/04/2015, 14:41:28 UTC
loudmouth talk and make people astray again
at the point of waste


https://hashtalk.org/topic/36929/last-night-video-upside-for-coinstand
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I was the one that personally that lent Coinstand the money for this (not GAW).

I guess he still doesn't realize that he will forever be associated with GAW and vice versa. Trying to distinguish between the two is just silly.

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Since the price has been so low for a few weeks, I have not been able to recover any additional funds. In other words, about 70% of the personal cost to me still outstanding.

Sort of how ~99% of the 'personal cost' to everyone that "invested" in Paycoin is still outstanding?

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For the past few weeks, as mentioned in a previous post, we have not sold any paycoin (since that post) and will inform everyone if we do.

You mean this post from 10 days ago? That's barely over a week ago. Let's not mislead anyone now Wink
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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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on 22/04/2015, 21:53:45 UTC
Surely you guys already figured this out... but sharing anyway for posterity. cross posting from GH...


In reference to GH user Processor,

Unless someone can vouch for this guy or otherwise produce evidence of the true motivation here, I'd advise not inputting any information into the website located at gawlawsuit[dot]com

This has shady written all over it and sounds like a reconnaissance mission to me.

Spread the word guys. As much as I'd like to see a collaborated effort, one scam won't end another. (example: ZenCloud converting over to PayBase)

Anyone interested in something like this should be talking to @Allen1980s. He's a trusted member of the community and already has the ball rolling with a lot of fire power.


Thus far they haven't asked for much. Collecting names is a good way to convince a big firm or big agency that they should act on your behalf. I think the irony is crushing that so many are saying that these guys are wrong, but all the while we're talking about how someone needs to do exactly this.

I say anyone who fills out that form, don't put any information you wouldn't put anywhere else. If you feel like you're better off pursuing the legal action as an individual, do that. But for God's sake do not take legal advice from a web forum.


Thus far they haven't asked for much. Collecting names is a good way to convince a big firm or big agency that they should act on your behalf.

Agreed, however collecting names may only just be the start of it. Something as harmless as just collecting names will cause more people to participate without sending up any flags. Once you've farmed that much information, scaling up to gather more later becomes as simple as creating a MailChimp list with fantastic claims of "We're making progress! Now we only need everyone to submit their addresses and credit card numbers to make a one time donation to the cause!" etc..... Ignore the obvious scammy nature of the example, but you get what I'm saying.

I think the irony is crushing that so many are saying that these guys are wrong, but all the while we're talking about how someone needs to do exactly this.

Again, I agree with you, but this isn't the way to do it. If someone is to champion this, it should be someone not hiding in the shadows and dodging questions from the community. Allen1980s is known by many, has already launched a campaign and, most importantly, has already secured an attorney with relevant experience.
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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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on 22/04/2015, 21:32:58 UTC
Surely you guys already figured this out... but sharing anyway for posterity. cross posting from GH...


In reference to GH user Processor,

Unless someone can vouch for this guy or otherwise produce evidence of the true motivation here, I'd advise not inputting any information into the website located at gawlawsuit[dot]com

This has shady written all over it and sounds like a reconnaissance mission to me.

Spread the word guys. As much as I'd like to see a collaborated effort, one scam won't end another. (example: ZenCloud converting over to PayBase)

Anyone interested in something like this should be talking to @Allen1980s. He's a trusted member of the community and already has the ball rolling with a lot of fire power.
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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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recon_eric
on 22/04/2015, 20:40:06 UTC

What gave it away? Smiley The fact that the following posts were made within 3 hours of each other and happen to be the ONLY posts made by the 4-day-old user?


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The new team owns zenCloud, what are they going to do about our hashlets?
Time to stop looking to joshypoo for answers to our hashlets. They now own ZWENCLIUD, they need to step up and provide something of value to all of us.

i'M SICK AND tired of the other two teams looking to Joshy to do something. tHEY NOW own 2/3 of ZEN and XPY they are the majority owners. What are they going to do to increase value for all of us?

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WE heard otherwise. That joshy was locked out and you were making ALL the decisions on ZEN hash-lets primes and stake primes? Also you make the rules on the market and conversions.
 why u iz misrepresenting facts?

You are solely deciding to convert primes to wallets. that means you own them.
 What are you going to do about our hashlets? you can make them mine again. forget about josh, you already took control. You own 2/3 of everything time to do something now. You wanted control you got it, now you have to answer to us.

You can't just look to JOSHY to fix it, you took control, step up and do something positive.
 Or did you just want to dump XPY?

You gave Joshypoo a hairuct and cut his stakerate. You didn't take a haircut, you gave yourself a stake promotion. Nice to sacrifice someone else and claim you did good by all of us. Fine, now what are you going to do with your newfound power?


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Read what joshy poo has said. Also in the cam interview that hombre that was not josh was telling us what HE was going to do with teh market conversion and primes. He is the new owner.

dID YOU GET the memo? But i will say this, i understand that it is confusing. What i am trying to say here is that joshy does not own this and the other groups need to step up. No more free passes for them. they took control, now they need to step up.

They can't use the WE got JOSHED paycoined excuse forever. They took control, now they need to do something useful.

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Is IT iLLEGAL to open a tax return?
open a password protected return?
 read someones credit report?
 publish their SS number?
 Post pages from the tax return?
 Hack private email and hack a password protected tax return?

You aren't suppose to tamper with tax returns and what about mail fraud, or identity theft?

Regardless of what you think of joshypoo are any of these things illegal? because a bunch of people have admitted to doing all of the above and more?

I think it's too late for misdirection.
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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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on 22/04/2015, 20:26:13 UTC
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on 22/04/2015, 15:30:25 UTC
Since I mentioned Cloudflare in the OP, I thought I'd note this here: I just learned that Cloudflare's "keyless SSL" feature still allows them to undetectably MITM all traffic. How it apparently works is that you keep the HTTPS key, but session keys are generated in a special way that allows both you and Cloudflare to decrypt the HTTPS traffic. Pretty sneaky, and not at all widely known. My suspicions that Cloudflare exists to spy on encrypted Internet traffic continue to rise.

+1 I noticed that last year... I never bothered with it since that feature was clearly targeted towards "easy mode" types, or those who don't understand how to pass the certificate data into CF.
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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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on 21/04/2015, 20:20:54 UTC
About the question who knew what: I have deleted the email dump, but while I was skimming it, I did see an email in -- August? if not August, then late July or early Sept. -- from Josh Garza to Joe Mordica, with the subject line 'Dan Pease'. In it, Garza basically says: whoa, did you actually tell Dan Pease how our "mining" works? [Scare quotes mine, of course.] Mordica says: yes, he said you wanted me to. Garza says: well, yes, I wanted you to fill him in a bit, but not *that* much. Do NOT do that again!

Since Dan Pease was pretty heavily involved, the idea that he didn't know that the mining was virtual, and that Garza was horrified to learn that he'd been told, says a lot. On the other hand, what it does not say is that Joe Mordica didn't know.

I believe that was Capuano, not Mordica, IIRC.

It was Mordica. From July 27. Josh Garza: (Subject: Dan Pease): "He said you explained to him how zenminer works?"

Joe Mordica: "Yes sir. He said you wanted him involved enough to run it. Is this correct?"

JG: "I did, but I never told you to tell him.

Things are fine, but I want you to know for the future. Disclosing confidential information, even to another staff, is in breach of our confidentiality.  Do yourself a favor and just to don't talk to anyone with out specific direction from me to do so. I don't want to have an issue Smiley"

JM: "Sorry about that. I now understand the scope of the situation. If it was anyone but Dan I would not have. But now I see what your saying. Thanks for letting me know this way."

JG: "It's good Smiley"

[Edit: I have no dog in this fight; just wanted to make sure I didn't have early onset Alzheimer's or anything.]

See bolded text. THIS is what I'm talking about about. If he succeeded at anything, it was making sure that not even a staff member could figure out the entire plan.

Dan Pease has been with "GAW" for several years, far longer than Joe. He started out as a tech support member for GAW High Speed Internet IIRC long before GAW Miners even existed and worked his way up the chain there. Then, after coming over to GAW Miners, he assumed the title of "General Manager" or "CFO" depending on which pretend organizational chart you look at. Yet he's still he's not to be trusted with "proprietary knowledge?" Yeah bullshit. Hell, I've known Josh over 15 years and I was intentionally left out of many of the "strategic planning" or "business strategy" talks. In my last week at GAW I finally asked why I was constantly kept in the dark on those plans, it was met with "You're good at what you do but we weren't really talking about any of that stuff so you weren't needed." Yeah bullshit. I found out later that it was because I routinely shot holes in shitty ideas and that wasn't welcome. I was told that my idea of criticism was "unproductive." Remind you of anything? Yeah, I was basically Shadow-bannedTM even inside the organization.

The fact that Dan Pease "couldn't be trusted" with the secrets of ZenCloud has less to do with confidentiality and more to do with compartmentalization. We use the same methods in the government, except it's to protect the nation from harm. The point of compartmentalization is that no one person or entity could be compromised and reveal enough to cause significant damage.

Since when was "fractional reserve mining" as sensitive as protecting national secrets? More like, JG wanted as few loose ends as possible.

I can't believe I haven't received another GAW legal threat yet.... I guess one will probably come soonTM
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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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on 21/04/2015, 15:51:20 UTC

Explain the concept of the "hybrid flex blockchain." How was it supposed to work, what were the benefits, what was done to make it happen, and why hasn't it been implemented?


I have no idea what "hybrid flex blockchain" really means, and I pride myself in being fairly knowledgeable in (real) blockchain theory. My opinion? Marketing bullshit. Anyone internally who asked "the creator himself" for explanations on some of the published concepts was met with, "um read the whitepaper." Well the whitepaper was practically an excerpt from a science fiction novel so eventually, people just stopped asking.


Also explain the amps that were used on hashlets and how they worked without being a ponzi scheme.


Wait, Hashlet's weren't a Ponzi scheme? I didn't know anyone was still arguing that. As far as how the amps worked, you'd have to ask a developer. My primary focus was security of the wallets/coin daemons, web application, and infrastructure.


Everyone on the inside should be able to explain those things and how they worked, or exactly how someone else on the inside lied to you about those things and how they worked or you are just as guilty as Josh.


See the "hybrid flex" explanation above. If you've paid attention to my prior posts, I outlined how communication (or lack thereof) typically flowed through the company. Nobody was privy to more information than was absolutely necessary to do their job. Any question that was sent up the chain of command seeking 'better understanding' was dismissed. It was completely frustrating at the time. In hindsight, it makes sense why he did that as half of us would have (and should have) left much sooner than we did.


In my opinion Eric has proven (and has been proven through documents I've read) he was one of the clean ones involved in the company and got out when he realized the big picture.  Joe on the other hand sits on the council of Primes. Off the top of my head he owns 5 PC's and is leasing some out to XPYtrust.

Eric your word goes a long way of restoring Joes reputation imo. some of the emails are damning but we do not know what was said behind closed doors which seems like Mr. Garbanzos modus operandi. the fact that he is not willing talk about paycoins future in a recorded setting (even if its behind closed doors but recorded to avoid misunderstandings etc) speaks VOLUMES

I sincerely appreciate your kind words. I've never tried to sell any illusions of being "the one who did nothing wrong." I've admitted (publicly and via official channels) that I certainly made some mistakes and I still kick myself for my ignorance and naivety. Most importantly, I've spent the last 4 months  doing everything in my power to make it right.

To Eric and Joe back away from PayCoin 100% and destroy your coins. Prove it.

Actions speak louder than words. Publicly state that PayCoin is a pre-mined scam coin and the whole enterprise, and anyone involved with its development, promotion, or sale is a scammer.

I do not, nor have I ever, owned a single Paycoin.

I was never issued any by the company, nor have I ever purchased one from the company nor any person or exchange.

The only time I've ever interacted with Paycoin was building the company wallets and initial prime controller daemons.

TL;DR, I have no coins to destroy, kind sir.
I believe you, but why not?  Wouldn't that have been a good idea at some point?

I'll answer that, but hopefully it doesn't start a war for the altcoin fans out there. The truth is, and many ex-employees can confirm this, I never believed in the coin. Even when it was first proposed, my question internally was "what the hell is wrong with Bitcoin?" I do not care for alts other than their "collectible" value... meaning, I've only dabbled in alts that had a 'fun' reason to be around. Examples being, Doge because of it's awesome community and lovable memes or Bottle Caps because I'm a total Fallout junky. I've never used alts for trading (who has time for that?) and I've never taken an alt seriously as a viable global currency as much as I do Bitcoin. That's why I had zero interest in owning Paycoin from the start.
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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion. Paycoin XPY CoinStand Mineral. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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on 21/04/2015, 15:15:24 UTC
To Eric and Joe back away from PayCoin 100% and destroy your coins. Prove it.

Actions speak louder than words. Publicly state that PayCoin is a pre-mined scam coin and the whole enterprise, and anyone involved with its development, promotion, or sale is a scammer.

I do not, nor have I ever, owned a single Paycoin.

I was never issued any by the company, nor have I ever purchased one from the company nor any person or exchange.

The only time I've ever interacted with Paycoin was building the company wallets and initial prime controller daemons.

TL;DR, I have no coins to destroy, kind sir.
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on 21/04/2015, 15:04:18 UTC
First, prove to me that GAW owns Paycoin. Tell me how much, and where it is stored and why you believe it belongs to them, and then explain  why taking property from a corporation is different than taking it from an individual. Secondly, explain why you think it is ok to take property away from either GAW or Josh Garza. What is the EXACT criteria by which you conclude that it is fair, just and legal, to take property from someone else. You either respect property rights or you don't.

I don't think anyone is proposing taking property away from anyone. What is being proposed is a fork of the coin which is identical other than that certain coins don't exist in the fork; the current coin (XPY) continues to exist, and a new coin (XPY2) is created which is functionally identical, only without the GAW coins. Is that theft? I don't see how.

As an existing holder of N XPY, I would also have N XPY2 (unless presumably I was GAW). I could choose to trade my XPY2 for "real" XPY, or vice versa, depending on which of the two I wanted to hold. They would both be listed on exchanges, and their prices would move independently of each other.

If there's general agreement that the fork is a good idea people would sell their XPY, pushing the price towards 0, while buying more XPY2, increasing the price. GAW still have their millions of XPY, nothing has been stolen, but the free market has set a more appropriate price for their out-of-thin-air gains and decided that they value a coin without the pre-mine (or whatever it is - I've not been paying attention) more highly.

This.

XPY2 would cut at least 50% of the coin and all hyperinflation.

EDIT: Cut all prime controllers and their coins + any remaining premine which is not in the hands of customers.

I am inclined to agree that with some modifications to this approach, XPY has a greater chance of survival upon successful implementation.


LMFAO look what the cat dragged in
Eric I have respect for after reading some of the emails as it seems like he has some conscience.
Jonah was a trusted member of the community way before Gaw.
YOU? I would trust you as much as I would trust Josh, Don't Let The Door Hit You On The Way Out!
Hope you get the jail time you deserve.

I pushed a lot of buttons and levers. I also take responsibility for my actions. I will continue truthfully answering questions asked by 3 letter agencies even if it means an undesirable outcome for myself. I enjoy working in this industry and I stay closely in touch with Eric and Jonah. Like Eric, when I became very uncomfortable working in the environment, I stepped down from my role.

I can take a forum beating and completely understand the justification to do so.

I may have not stepped down from my role quick enough in order to properly display my character and integrity as a business leader, and that is something I regret. Hopefully time will heal and mend some of the professional and personal relationships I have built over the last few years. I'm also willing to help out where I can and be more available to do so.

Thanks.

For anyone who cares about my opinion on the matter.... ^ This is all true

A few days after I resigned, I drove from CT to MS on my way home to TX. I stopped in Hattiesburg and had a long face-to-face talk with Joe. It was then that I shared the hard truths I had learned in CT, some of which he had familiarity with, some of which was definitely news to him. I also know that he began his exit very soon after that talk, just not as quickly as I had dropped everything in CT and left.

For anyone that cares what I think, I've gotten to know Joe really well over the past 10 months and I have nothing but respect for him. He's of sound character, but shares a common weakness with the rest of us that "fell for it" and did this guy's dirty work. We had a passion for crypto-currency and 'building cool shit' (not saying that any of the final products ended up being 'cool shit' at all). Our biggest fault was trusting a manipulative and deceitful person that conned us into thinking he shared the same values. In the end we learned that there were very different motivations at the top of the food chain, we were just too focused on our individual jobs to realize the bigger picture. I also know that Joe has mirrored my efforts in the past few months to help "shine some light" on the operation, and yes I am being intentionally vague due to the ongoing "situation."

I have nothing really to gain by stepping in and speaking on Joe's character, I'm just sharing my 648 XPY (or however many equals two cents). FWIW, Joe and I (as well as several others) are still working with the appropriate 'parties' to bring all of this to an end.

Regardless, I respect everyone's right to their own opinion. It's criticism and free speech that keeps the world honest.
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on 16/04/2015, 21:57:44 UTC
A common theme I am seeing in these emails from Josh is that whenever he is challenged on his views, or when someone criticizes something he has done, Josh immediately turns to super sympathetic retorts like "I can't believe you are acting this way" or something like "I really don't like the way you are handling this" or "Are we not friends?"

It's really sad that he has to use this childish manipulation to get people on his side, rather than clearly explaining why something is right/wrong or why it will/won't work. Then again, it's the only tactic he has because he's clearly wrong every time.

I don't expect the feds will be as sympathetic as his business partners victims.

THIS.
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on 16/04/2015, 21:37:35 UTC
Yikes... Watch out for round two...

https://hashtalk.org/topic/36593/time-for-team-btclend-members-to-vote-now-open-to-all

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We introduce a new closed sourced Coin called LendCoin (LCN) and it`s only purpose would be to utilize it as collateral and bring you in into the action.

I think the shyster Cmillian (and his partner Homero) should call this fake collateral coin "Escher Coin". No matter which way it goes, it is always going up.

http://files.harrowakker.webnode.nl/200000058-28fec29f90/EscherOmhoogOmlaag.jpg

I just figure he got ahold of GAWDs super secret book of business plans.

http://i.imgur.com/xwpR8zT.jpg