call me naive or foolish if you want, though some of the companies listed have shipped product before. what that tells me is they have some sort of idea of what is required to give accurate ship dates and are not flying by the seat of their pants as was the case with BFL, but lets not talk about them. I will admit that I've got a pre-order for a BA X-1 and thinking about a 2nd unit if I see progress and a finalized design but at the same time I'm only spending money that I know I won't miss in case things go really south. the biggest problem is people are stretching themselves and aiming to be dependent on the money that they should be bringing in with the miners and if you ask me that's just asking for trouble.