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Re: Tell me why Satoshi Nakamoto didn't spend a Satoshi from his 1 Mio BTC
Re: Tell me why Satoshi Nakamoto didn't spend a Satoshi from his 1 Mio BTC
Did Satoshi think that quantum computers will exist? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5172573.0
Did Satoshi think that quantum computers will exist? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5172573.0
Satoshi did know about it. Quantum was a thing before year 2000. Don't tell me the man who created Bitcoin does not know what quantum is.
If we look at the history of quantum computers, it started around 1980's, so definitely, Satoshi have known and think about quantum computers because it is already existing and developing even before Bitcoin was created.
Why did he not move his early mined P2PK Bitcoins to quantum resistant P2PKH addresses?Satoshi knew that one day quantum computers will exist and will be able to move the early mined coins (P2PK) and created an unofficial prize competition to accelerate the development.
Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition and the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain.
Our guess is that he knew that the early mined coins will be moved one day. So he created a 'prize competition'. Otherwise he could move the coins to quantum resistant P2PKH addresses, but he did not and is not doing.
The only question is:
Nobody can stop that race.
The only question is:
Who will win the race and get the early coins?
Quantum computing or solving the "Satoshi Prize Competition".
Quantum computing or solving the "Satoshi Prize Competition".
Nobody can stop that race.
Satoshi did know about it. Quantum was a thing before year 2000. Don't tell me the man who created Bitcoin does not know what quantum is.
If we look at the history of quantum computers, it started around 1980's, so definitely, Satoshi have known and think about quantum computers because it is already existing and developing even before Bitcoin was created.
Why did he not move his early mined P2PK Bitcoins to quantum resistant P2PKH addresses?Satoshi knew that one day quantum computers will exist and will be able to move the early mined coins (P2PK) and created an unofficial prize competition to accelerate the development.
Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition and the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain.
Our guess is that he knew that the early mined coins will be moved one day. So he created a 'prize competition'. Otherwise he could move the coins to quantum resistant P2PKH addresses, but he did not and is not doing.
The only question is:
Nobody can stop that race.
The only question is:
Who will win the race and get the early coins?
Quantum computing or solving the "Satoshi Prize Competition".
Quantum computing or solving the "Satoshi Prize Competition".
Nobody can stop that race.
⭐ Merited by o_e_l_e_o (1)
If we look at the history of quantum computers, it started around 1980's, so definitely, Satoshi have known and think about quantum computers because it is already existing and developing even before Bitcoin was created.
And he did not move his early mined P2PK Bitcoins to quantum resistant P2PKH addresses.
I guess when quantum computing becomes a threat to bitcoin that all miners will move to it too..
They will move to quantum computing to get Satoshi's early mined coins. Satoshi knew it and knows it. He could stop it through transfering these coins to P2PKH addresses today, but didn't and doesn't. He supports the better technology.
Do you remember what happened when people developed ASICs? They moved from PC mining to ASIC mining as it was better.
Bitcoin is a pure competition platform where the better devices win and Satoshi rewards the first quantum computer owners with his early mined coins.
4 Million Bitcoins Worth $40 Billion in Danger from Quantum Attacks
https://cryptonewspipe.com/4-million-bitcoins-worth-40-billion-in-danger-from-quantum-attacks/
https://bitcoinist.com/bitcoin-worth-usd-40-billion-vulnerable-to-quantum-attacks/
'How can BTC be Protected from Quantum Computers? Simply put, p2pkh addresses that were not previously used for spending Bitcoin should be perfectly safe. Their public keys were not revealed to the public, meaning that not even quantum computers can use them to derive a private key. All that people need to do is transfer their BTC to a new p2pkh address, and their funds should be perfectly safe.'
Nobody is asking why he is not moving the early mined unmoved P2PK coins:
These early mined unmoved P2PK coins are intented for an unofficial prize competition
https://bitslog.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175996.0
But Satoshi had mined more than the above mentioned coins. He had several computers to mine and his own coins are unknown. Some say these coins decrease the total number of coins as they can't be used. But in 2009 we had an agreement that the supply limit is 21 million BTC and that limit won't be changed. They will become active and all coins will be used.
https://cryptonewspipe.com/4-million-bitcoins-worth-40-billion-in-danger-from-quantum-attacks/
https://bitcoinist.com/bitcoin-worth-usd-40-billion-vulnerable-to-quantum-attacks/
'How can BTC be Protected from Quantum Computers? Simply put, p2pkh addresses that were not previously used for spending Bitcoin should be perfectly safe. Their public keys were not revealed to the public, meaning that not even quantum computers can use them to derive a private key. All that people need to do is transfer their BTC to a new p2pkh address, and their funds should be perfectly safe.'
Satoshi knew that one day quantum computers will exist and will be able to move the early mined coins (P2PK) and created an unofficial prize competition to accelerate the development.
Nobody is asking why he is not moving the early mined unmoved P2PK coins:
These early mined unmoved P2PK coins are intented for an unofficial prize competition
https://bitslog.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175996.0
But Satoshi had mined more than the above mentioned coins. He had several computers to mine and his own coins are unknown. Some say these coins decrease the total number of coins as they can't be used. But in 2009 we had an agreement that the supply limit is 21 million BTC and that limit won't be changed. They will become active and all coins will be used.
Satoshi knew all this. He has been testing Bitcoin for two years before we could use it.
Fortunately, so far all the issues raised have been things I previously considered and planned for.
He knew that a HDD can fail, and all other forms of privatekey storage can be useless for some reason. That is why he put the privatekeys of his early mined coins somehow into the blockchain. All these coins are P2PK addresses and he did not transfer them to P2PKH addresses although they are more secure. (quantum resistant)
Nobody is asking why he did not move and is not moving these early mined unmoved P2PK coins:
https://bitslog.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175996.0
Indeed, there are people out there, who are trying to solve this and hopefully someone will be able to move the first coins.
Open letter/question to Satoshi https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5159185.0;all
Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150688.0
Satoshi could move some of these coins and and show how the privatekeys were implemented into the blockchain. This is the only possibility to prove that he is the real Satoshi as nobody else could know it. Even if someone else finds a privatekey (or a bunch of eg 10 privatekeys) of these coins, this person can't show another one. But the real Satoshi can, as he knows for all these coins the solution. But he will not, he is waiting that someone finds it and moves the first coins, others will follow.
How long have you been working on this design Satoshi? It seems very well thought out, not the kind of thing you just sit down and code up without doing a lot of brainstorming and discussion on it first. Everyone has the obvious questions looking for holes in it but it is holding up well 
Since 2007. At some point I became convinced there was a way to do this without any trust required at all and couldn't resist to keep thinking about it. Much more of the work was designing than coding.Fortunately, so far all the issues raised have been things I previously considered and planned for.
He knew that a HDD can fail, and all other forms of privatekey storage can be useless for some reason. That is why he put the privatekeys of his early mined coins somehow into the blockchain. All these coins are P2PK addresses and he did not transfer them to P2PKH addresses although they are more secure. (quantum resistant)
SHA256 is not going to be broken by Moore's law computational improvements in our lifetimes.
Nobody is asking why he did not move and is not moving these early mined unmoved P2PK coins:
https://bitslog.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175996.0
Our guess is that he knew that the early mined coins will be moved one day. So he created a 'prize competition'. Otherwise he could move the coins to quantum resistant P2PKH addresses, but he did not and is not doing.
Indeed, there are people out there, who are trying to solve this and hopefully someone will be able to move the first coins.
Open letter/question to Satoshi https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5159185.0;all
Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150688.0
December 2015 a Bitcointalk member discovered a puzzle transaction while playing around with his bot:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg13381244#msg13381244
At that time nobody declared such a puzzle transaction which was created January 2015 until the creator of that competition came out 2 years later:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg18765941#msg18765941
As of 01/10/2019 there are still more than 100 BTC to win. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166284.0
We think that the early mined coins of Satoshi are also a prize competition and that Satoshi is waiting this coins to be moved. We also think that he will not respond after somebody moves the first coins but it will be a message to the Bitcoin community that the private keys are somehow on the blockchain. If Satoshi disagreed with that conclusion he would have moved the coins to other addresses.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg13381244#msg13381244
At that time nobody declared such a puzzle transaction which was created January 2015 until the creator of that competition came out 2 years later:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg18765941#msg18765941
As of 01/10/2019 there are still more than 100 BTC to win. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166284.0
We think that the early mined coins of Satoshi are also a prize competition and that Satoshi is waiting this coins to be moved. We also think that he will not respond after somebody moves the first coins but it will be a message to the Bitcoin community that the private keys are somehow on the blockchain. If Satoshi disagreed with that conclusion he would have moved the coins to other addresses.
Satoshi could move some of these coins and and show how the privatekeys were implemented into the blockchain. This is the only possibility to prove that he is the real Satoshi as nobody else could know it. Even if someone else finds a privatekey (or a bunch of eg 10 privatekeys) of these coins, this person can't show another one. But the real Satoshi can, as he knows for all these coins the solution. But he will not, he is waiting that someone finds it and moves the first coins, others will follow.
One day these posts will become very valuable. They are like Bitcoin in 2009.
What else should we base on who the real Satoshi Nakamoto is?
There is almost no way to prove who he is unless he wants to be revealed.
As I wrote, Satoshi knew all this.
December 2015 a Bitcointalk member discovered a puzzle transaction while playing around with his bot:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg13381244#msg13381244
At that time nobody declared such a puzzle transaction which was created January 2015 until the creator of that competition came out 2 years later:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg18765941#msg18765941
As of 01/10/2019 there are still more than 100 BTC to win. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166284.0
We think that the early mined coins of Satoshi are also a prize competition and that Satoshi is waiting this coins to be moved. We also think that he will not respond after somebody moves the first coins but it will be a message to the Bitcoin community that the private keys are somehow on the blockchain. If Satoshi disagreed with that conclusion he would have moved the coins to other addresses.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg13381244#msg13381244
At that time nobody declared such a puzzle transaction which was created January 2015 until the creator of that competition came out 2 years later:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg18765941#msg18765941
As of 01/10/2019 there are still more than 100 BTC to win. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166284.0
We think that the early mined coins of Satoshi are also a prize competition and that Satoshi is waiting this coins to be moved. We also think that he will not respond after somebody moves the first coins but it will be a message to the Bitcoin community that the private keys are somehow on the blockchain. If Satoshi disagreed with that conclusion he would have moved the coins to other addresses.
Satoshi could move some of these coins and and show how the privatekeys were implemented into the blockchain. This is the only possibility to prove that he is the real Satoshi as nobody else could know it. Even if someone else finds a privatekey (or a bunch of eg 10 privatekeys) of these coins, this person can't show another one. But the real Satoshi can, as he knows for all these coins the solution. But he will not, he is waiting that someone finds it and moves the first coins, others will follow.
If it is necessary, he can show how the privatekeys were implemented into the blockchain and prove that he is the real Satoshi. But he will not, he is waiting that someone finds it and moves the first coins, others will follow.
Satoshi knew all this. He has been testing Bitcoin for two years before we could use it.
Fortunately, so far all the issues raised have been things I previously considered and planned for.
He knew that a HDD can fail, and all other forms of privatekey storage can be useless for some reason. That is why he put the privatekeys of his early mined coins somehow into the blockchain. All these coins are P2PK addresses and he did not transfer them to P2PKH addresses although they are more secure. (quantum resistant)
Nobody is asking why he did not move and is not moving these early mined unmoved P2PK coins:
https://bitslog.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175996.0
Indeed, there are people out there, who are trying to solve this and hopefully someone will be able to move the first coins.
Open letter/question to Satoshi https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5159185.0;all
Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150688.0
Satoshi could move some of these coins and and show how the privatekeys were implemented into the blockchain. This is the only possibility to prove that he is the real Satoshi as nobody else could know it. Even if someone else finds a privatekey (or a bunch of eg 10 privatekeys) of these coins, this person can't show another one. But the real Satoshi can, as he knows for all these coins the solution. But he will not, he is waiting that someone finds it and moves the first coins, others will follow.
How long have you been working on this design Satoshi? It seems very well thought out, not the kind of thing you just sit down and code up without doing a lot of brainstorming and discussion on it first. Everyone has the obvious questions looking for holes in it but it is holding up well
Since 2007. At some point I became convinced there was a way to do this without any trust required at all and couldn't resist to keep thinking about it. Much more of the work was designing than coding.Fortunately, so far all the issues raised have been things I previously considered and planned for.
He knew that a HDD can fail, and all other forms of privatekey storage can be useless for some reason. That is why he put the privatekeys of his early mined coins somehow into the blockchain. All these coins are P2PK addresses and he did not transfer them to P2PKH addresses although they are more secure. (quantum resistant)
SHA256 is not going to be broken by Moore's law computational improvements in our lifetimes.
Nobody is asking why he did not move and is not moving these early mined unmoved P2PK coins:
https://bitslog.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175996.0
Our guess is that he knew that the early mined coins will be moved one day. So he created a 'prize competition'. Otherwise he could move the coins to quantum resistant P2PKH addresses, but he did not and is not doing.
Indeed, there are people out there, who are trying to solve this and hopefully someone will be able to move the first coins.
Open letter/question to Satoshi https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5159185.0;all
Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150688.0
December 2015 a Bitcointalk member discovered a puzzle transaction while playing around with his bot:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg13381244#msg13381244
At that time nobody declared such a puzzle transaction which was created January 2015 until the creator of that competition came out 2 years later:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg18765941#msg18765941
As of 01/10/2019 there are still more than 100 BTC to win. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166284.0
We think that the early mined coins of Satoshi are also a prize competition and that Satoshi is waiting this coins to be moved. We also think that he will not respond after somebody moves the first coins but it will be a message to the Bitcoin community that the private keys are somehow on the blockchain. If Satoshi disagreed with that conclusion he would have moved the coins to other addresses.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg13381244#msg13381244
At that time nobody declared such a puzzle transaction which was created January 2015 until the creator of that competition came out 2 years later:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg18765941#msg18765941
As of 01/10/2019 there are still more than 100 BTC to win. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166284.0
We think that the early mined coins of Satoshi are also a prize competition and that Satoshi is waiting this coins to be moved. We also think that he will not respond after somebody moves the first coins but it will be a message to the Bitcoin community that the private keys are somehow on the blockchain. If Satoshi disagreed with that conclusion he would have moved the coins to other addresses.
Satoshi could move some of these coins and and show how the privatekeys were implemented into the blockchain. This is the only possibility to prove that he is the real Satoshi as nobody else could know it. Even if someone else finds a privatekey (or a bunch of eg 10 privatekeys) of these coins, this person can't show another one. But the real Satoshi can, as he knows for all these coins the solution. But he will not, he is waiting that someone finds it and moves the first coins, others will follow.
Re: Is 'saatoshi_rising' Satoshi wanting to tell us something?
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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136880.msg53164590#msg53164590 There is strong evidence that Satoshi had multiple Bitcoin code repositories with prototype development and research that never saw the light of day.
How long have you been working on this design Satoshi? It seems very well thought out, not the kind of thing you just sit down and code up without doing a lot of brainstorming and discussion on it first. Everyone has the obvious questions looking for holes in it but it is holding up well
Since 2007. At some point I became convinced there was a way to do this without any trust required at all and couldn't resist to keep thinking about it. Much more of the work was designing than coding.Fortunately, so far all the issues raised have been things I previously considered and planned for.
Satoshi knew that one day quantum computers will exist and will be able to move the early mined coins (P2PK) and created an unofficial prize competition to accelerate the development.
Satoshi:
However, if something happened and the signatures were compromised (perhaps integer factorization is solved, quantum computers?), then even agreeing upon the last valid block would be worthless.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5136880.msg53164590#msg53164590True, if it happened suddenly. If it happens gradually, we can still transition to something stronger. When you run the upgraded software for the first time, it would re-sign all your money with the new stronger signature algorithm. (by creating a transaction sending the money to yourself with the stronger sig)
Nobody is asking why he did not move and is not moving these early mined unmoved P2PK coins:
https://bitslog.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175996.0
Our guess is that he knew that the early mined coins will be moved one day. So he created a 'prize competition'. Otherwise he could move the coins to quantum resistant P2PKH addresses, but he did not and is not doing.
The only question is:
Nobody can stop that race.
The only question is:
Who will win the race and get the early coins?
Quantum computing or solving the "Satoshi Prize Competition".
Quantum computing or solving the "Satoshi Prize Competition".
Nobody can stop that race.
Hi,
All below addresses were emptied this year. Most of them in Sept. 2019. Around 2982 BTC in 21 addresses.
All addresses were first used in 2011, and dormant until now.
BCH is still there except 1 address.
No spending transactions on them so the public key was not known.
The owner he suddenly remembered after 8 years that he had some BTC?
12CpK8apTJfaMSiPYhGMDdaRRFYoS721Px
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What are your opinions?
All below addresses were emptied this year. Most of them in Sept. 2019. Around 2982 BTC in 21 addresses.
All addresses were first used in 2011, and dormant until now.
BCH is still there except 1 address.
No spending transactions on them so the public key was not known.
The owner he suddenly remembered after 8 years that he had some BTC?
12CpK8apTJfaMSiPYhGMDdaRRFYoS721Px
13GUJutC6GKgJQTcGzCtznDDYFQKVJFVwp
13Sa73PU9Ar5sE4SdFcBdbg9ntbNcMQhaA
14k4GhqA1svNZPbssdAjgdnfzWTpAigZVH
14nppk7sMVv91n1Nch6DQKaFto3wVmh8yT
16KVwFVDfU3DKrvnGGSM7hsGp3MnvHczuB
17tXBRCQzQz87zYetp3wwJRms4fcWN4a8v
18ws2qaW2xBRWGCmfjnDiDHa55A5iSJogP
18xEu7DB8u58ivNa3VwEFeEc4ZbjtMVtPD
19w2MURRz5LsjNHCckmp65YX4WCc7kJdJF
1APGxVLKXhXepeaAjV6z3s4d7xCYXXDwmj
1Aw7mXtLMDjTBNcaqjv6cT935BEQQr5vRF
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1MtUY5R3xixWfthqrprVPWMMTwR5A7GU2x
1nYrmtXVjX9G3Q86tdKcKQRCq2MPVvNp9
What are your opinions?
Maybe someone solved a puzzle.
Re: Bitcoin treasure https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146858.0
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Hi,
All below addresses were emptied this year. Most of them in Sept. 2019. Around 2982 BTC in 21 addresses.
All addresses were first used in 2011, and dormant until now.
BCH is still there except 1 address.
No spending transactions on them so the public key was not known.
The owner he suddenly remembered after 8 years that he had some BTC?
12CpK8apTJfaMSiPYhGMDdaRRFYoS721Px
13GUJutC6GKgJQTcGzCtznDDYFQKVJFVwp
13Sa73PU9Ar5sE4SdFcBdbg9ntbNcMQhaA
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What are your opinions?
All below addresses were emptied this year. Most of them in Sept. 2019. Around 2982 BTC in 21 addresses.
All addresses were first used in 2011, and dormant until now.
BCH is still there except 1 address.
No spending transactions on them so the public key was not known.
The owner he suddenly remembered after 8 years that he had some BTC?
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What are your opinions?
Maybe someone solved a puzzle.
Re: Bitcoin treasure https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146858.0
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Given that Satoshi's coins are in Pay to public key outputs, the pubkeys are publicly available already. So if we assume Satoshi is dead or otherwise gone, his coins moving would actually be an indication that Quantum computers exist because the only way for them to move (assuming he is no longer around) is for someone to have been able to compute the private keys to those exposed public keys, presumably via quantum computer. In general, it would mean that the ECDLP is has been broken in some way (regardless of QCs) and should no longer be relied upon (i.e. we should move off of ECDSA and Schnorr).
His coins or the 'Shalecoins' (coins with no owner ' https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134441.0) moving would actually be an indication that
1. Quantum computers exist
2. ECDLP has been broken in some way
or
3. Satoshi created the greatest prize competition and the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150688.0 and someone solved it
Nobody is asking why he did not move and is not moving these early mined unmoved P2PK coins:
https://bitslog.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175996.0
https://bitslog.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175996.0
Our guess is that he knew that the early mined coins will be moved one day. So he created a 'prize competition'. Otherwise he could move the coins to quantum resistant P2PKH addresses, but he did not and is not doing.
The only question is:
Nobody can stop that race.
The only question is:
Who will win the race and get the early coins?
Quantum computing or solving the "Satoshi Prize Competition".
Quantum computing or solving the "Satoshi Prize Competition".
Nobody can stop that race.
"We will know when quantum computers exist when Satoshis coins move." https://marketrebellion.com/why-quantum-computing-is-not-a-threat-to-bitcoin/
Satoshi:
Nobody is asking why he did not move and is not moving these early mined unmoved P2PK coins:
https://bitslog.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175996.0
Satoshi knew that one day quantum computers will exist and will be able to move the early mined coins (P2PK) and created an unofficial prize competition to accelerate the development.
Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition and the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150688.0
Satoshi:
However, if something happened and the signatures were compromised (perhaps integer factorization is solved, quantum computers?), then even agreeing upon the last valid block would be worthless.
True, if it happened suddenly. If it happens gradually, we can still transition to something stronger. When you run the upgraded software for the first time, it would re-sign all your money with the new stronger signature algorithm. (by creating a transaction sending the money to yourself with the stronger sig)Nobody is asking why he did not move and is not moving these early mined unmoved P2PK coins:
https://bitslog.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175996.0
Our guess is that he knew that the early mined coins will be moved one day. So he created a 'prize competition'. Otherwise he could move the coins to quantum resistant P2PKH addresses, but he did not and is not doing.
The only question is:
Nobody can stop that race.
The only question is:
Who will win the race and get the early coins?
Quantum computing or solving the "Satoshi Prize Competition".
Quantum computing or solving the "Satoshi Prize Competition".
Nobody can stop that race.
Satoshi knew that one day quantum computers will exist and will be able to move the early mined coins (P2PK) and created an unofficial prize competition to accelerate the development.
Satoshi:
However, if something happened and the signatures were compromised (perhaps integer factorization is solved, quantum computers?), then even agreeing upon the last valid block would be worthless.
True, if it happened suddenly. If it happens gradually, we can still transition to something stronger. When you run the upgraded software for the first time, it would re-sign all your money with the new stronger signature algorithm. (by creating a transaction sending the money to yourself with the stronger sig)Nobody is asking why he did not move and is not moving these early mined unmoved P2PK coins:
https://bitslog.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175996.0
Our guess is that he knew that the early mined coins will be moved one day. So he created a 'prize competition'. Otherwise he could move the coins to quantum resistant P2PKH addresses, but he did not and is not doing.
The only question is:
Nobody can stop that race.
The only question is:
Who will win the race and get the early coins?
Quantum computing or solving the "Satoshi Prize Competition".
Quantum computing or solving the "Satoshi Prize Competition".
Nobody can stop that race.
Re: Satoshi's Fortune lower bound is 100M USD(DEBATE GOING ON, DO NOT TWEET!)
Sergio, maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition and the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain and that each 'black branch' in the picture of your wonderful work https://bitslog.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/ represents one solution.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150688.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150688.0
* 100% sure that it is a prize competition
* 100% sure that you can solve it only with the blockchain
* still trying to solve it
* one day someone will solve it
* 100% sure that you can solve it only with the blockchain
* still trying to solve it
* one day someone will solve it
Sergio says that the slope in the picture (This is Satoshi) https://bitslog.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/ is caused by restarting the application to mine (wallet) but it is possible that each 'black branch' represents one solution. That would avoid that only one winner gets the whole coins.
Yes, for sure Satoshi is one of the genius people
He would try to distribute the prize but let it still huge.
* 100% sure that it is a prize competition
* 100% sure that you can solve it only with the blockchain
* still trying to solve it
* one day someone will solve it
* 100% sure that you can solve it only with the blockchain
* still trying to solve it
* one day someone will solve it
Sergio says that the slope in the picture (This is Satoshi) https://bitslog.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/ is caused by restarting the application to mine (wallet) but it is possible that each 'black branch' represents one solution. That would avoid that only one winner gets the whole coins.
Satoshi knew that one day quantum computers will exist and will be able to move the early mined coins (P2PK) and created an unofficial prize competition to accelerate the development.
Nobody is asking why he is not moving the early mined unmoved P2PK coins:
These early mined unmoved P2PK coins are intented for an unofficial prize competition
https://bitslog.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175996.0
But he had other computers to mine and his own coins are unknown (P2PKH or P2PK not included in the above mentioned coins)
Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition and the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain.
Our guess is that he knew that the early mined coins will be moved one day. So he created a 'prize competition'. Otherwise he could move the coins to quantum resistant P2PKH addresses, but he did not and is not doing.
The only question is:
Nobody can stop that race.
The only question is:
Who will win the race and get the early coins?
Quantum computing or solving the "Satoshi Prize Competition".
Quantum computing or solving the "Satoshi Prize Competition".
Nobody can stop that race.
Nobody is asking why he is not moving the early mined unmoved P2PK coins:
These early mined unmoved P2PK coins are intented for an unofficial prize competition
https://bitslog.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175996.0
But he had other computers to mine and his own coins are unknown (P2PKH or P2PK not included in the above mentioned coins)
Satoshi knew that one day quantum computers will exist and will be able to move the early mined coins (P2PK) and created an unofficial prize competition to accelerate the development.
Nobody is asking why he is not moving the early mined unmoved P2PK coins:
These early mined unmoved P2PK coins are intented for an unofficial prize competition
https://bitslog.com/2013/04/17/the-well-deserved-fortune-of-satoshi-nakamoto/
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=175996.0
But he had other computers to mine and his own coins are unknown (P2PKH or P2PK not included in the above mentioned coins)
Satoshi knew that one day quantum computers will exist and will be able to move the early mined coins (P2PK) and created an unofficial prize competition to accelerate the development.
Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition and the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain.
Our guess is that he knew that the early mined coins will be moved one day. So he created a 'prize competition'. Otherwise he could move the coins to quantum resistant P2PKH addresses, but he did not and is not doing.
The only question is:
Nobody can stop that race.
The only question is:
Who will win the race and get the early coins?
Quantum computing or solving the "Satoshi Prize Competition".
Quantum computing or solving the "Satoshi Prize Competition".
Nobody can stop that race.