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Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
* macsga thinks it's time to refresh this into our memories... 
I personally follow and post here the UPDATED 5 rules of success for you: 1. Don't get emotional from other's people thoughts.
2. Not everyone here is a "nice person" you can trust.
3. IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO, DON'T TRADE.
4. HODL!!!
5. Until you desperately need the money follow rule #4.
Good Luck!
"Don't get emotional from other people's thoughts"
> Tells people to HODL!!!!! Like you are some kind of cryptospartan, because that isn't encouraging an emotional response at all.
The emotional mindset behind you permabulls is ridiculous.
China takes BTC to $1200+
"WE LOVE CHINA!! ARGENTINA WILL LEAD THE NEXT ONE TO $10,000 MEBE!?!??"
Bubble bursts = FUCK CHINA! CHINA DOESN'T NEED BITCOIN WE WILL CONTINUE ON WITHOUT THEM. CHINA DOESN'T UNDERSTAND HOW AMAZING BITCOIN IS ITS THEIR LOSS IF THEY SELL. WHATEVER CHINA, SELL, ILL HODL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All you hodl fuckers grind my gears.
"WE LOVE CHINA!! ARGENTINA WILL LEAD THE NEXT ONE TO $10,000 MEBE!?!??"
Bubble bursts = FUCK CHINA! CHINA DOESN'T NEED BITCOIN WE WILL CONTINUE ON WITHOUT THEM. CHINA DOESN'T UNDERSTAND HOW AMAZING BITCOIN IS ITS THEIR LOSS IF THEY SELL. WHATEVER CHINA, SELL, ILL HODL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
All you hodl fuckers grind my gears.
Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
More recent bad press:
Aussie Mum In Anti-Bitcoin Crusade After Son's Death
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2014/01/aussie-mum-in-anti-bitcoin-crusade-after-sons-death/
Investors beware of Bitcoin
http://www.livemint.com/Opinion/fEXo8r2OcAIZHWOMbZmmfO/Investors-beware-of-Bitcoin.html
Aussie Mum In Anti-Bitcoin Crusade After Son's Death
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2014/01/aussie-mum-in-anti-bitcoin-crusade-after-sons-death/
Investors beware of Bitcoin
http://www.livemint.com/Opinion/fEXo8r2OcAIZHWOMbZmmfO/Investors-beware-of-Bitcoin.html
you mean more fud? cool thanks for the repeat of old stuff
See you at 1500. Oh wait
we are very close to $2,000 mark
Huh? I'm an impatient person I guess. There has to be something that's holding it back, not allowing it to creep over that $1k mark. All is ok, since I'm just accumulating coins but it has been a while since I've sold any. When it hovered around $1k for a while I constantly sold here and there.I thought this weekend would have been it!
Purely psychological. But we are being slowly pressed closer by buying pressure as the days go by. We will definitely break over by the end of the month
Have you noticed the buying pressure is decreasing
Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
Man I wish this big dump happens finally, TERA looks desperate (as all charters after seeing charts mean heck all here are) 
I might take few coins then too.
I might take few coins then too.
I hope so too so he can rub it in your face
EDIT: YOU ARE BEING SO MEAN TO HIM
Yep, I'm mean man
No, you don't hope him to rub it in my face, you hope because you sodl
And don't you worry about me, I have some stuff to catch it all the way down. It's just getting boring seeing someone going bearish and admitting defeat twice a week, and all that while sounding like he has some reasoning for his stuff
Nup he just read the tape wrong and is back on track now. One last miserable 8-16 hour bounce (which, by the way is unlikely to push past 966ish give or take a bit on gox) might be in order before this starts to go down in flames - unless like Arepo said, there is a large volume bull push to fly us above this gaping chasm to the next safe landing as opposed to dropping off the cliff we're standing on....
#DealWithItBulls
#AgeOfKarhu
#NewParadigmBitcoinBreaksAllTimeHighAfter6WeeksOfConsolidation
#PermaBullCrap
Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion
Man I wish this big dump happens finally, TERA looks desperate (as all charters after seeing charts mean heck all here are)
I might take few coins then too.
I might take few coins then too.
I hope so too so he can rub it in your face
EDIT: YOU ARE BEING SO MEAN TO HIM
Okay dude. We get it. You bought in at a high number and are uncomfortable with the ideas some are presenting about a final capitulation. Please stop with the permabull shit lets just ride this out for the next month or two and then continue our journey to the moon.
Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)
Lol that logic is flawed.
Cheerleaders or not it was impossible for that particular board to make change happen. They could say anything and Ken just yes/no. Mostly no.
Not the board's fault. Ken's 'fault'.
Will this board of yours actually have any say in procedures or is it another advisory panel?
Cheerleaders or not it was impossible for that particular board to make change happen. They could say anything and Ken just yes/no. Mostly no.
Not the board's fault. Ken's 'fault'.
Will this board of yours actually have any say in procedures or is it another advisory panel?
Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)
And lol @ applying technical analysis to this garbage heap are you for real
Technical analysis? I don't do that. That's vodoo for day-traders that works about as much as astrology.
Sorry that wasn't aimed at you, was agreeing with your "I told you so" post.
Should have quoted the other guy before the TA part
Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)
At this point, I can't even feel sorry anymore for those of you who are losing now.
A lot of people, including me, have been trying to convince you of this scam for so long now, out of nothing but kindness. All we heard were insults.
I just hope my efforts here got at least some people out. A "thank you" would be appreciated, but I understand that's probably not going to happen.
Like I said 3 weeks ago:
A lot of people, including me, have been trying to convince you of this scam for so long now, out of nothing but kindness. All we heard were insults.
I just hope my efforts here got at least some people out. A "thank you" would be appreciated, but I understand that's probably not going to happen.
Like I said 3 weeks ago:
Many of you are going to learn a hard but valuable lesson about greed here.
They are deluded to say the least lmao
And lol @ applying technical analysis to this garbage heap are you for real
Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)
I guess no more drama for a while. They seem to be hashing stably at 400Gh/s
Since ASICMiner is doing 33.59 TH/s, and ASICMiner's 400k shares are 1.8 at the moment, that means ASICMiner is worth 720,000 BTC.
Labcoin hashing 1/84th as quickly, giving it an "ASICMiner equivalent valuation" of 8,571 BTC, or a per-share value of 0.00085.
I'm obviously not saying they're equivalent by any means, just pointing out the price you'd currently pay for shares that would get the same dividends as ASICMiner, not counting ASICMiner hardware sales.
If they can get it up to 706Gh/s they could justify their current 0.0015Btc price, and would need 941Gh/s to justify a 0.002BTC price.
Since ASICMiner is doing 33.59 TH/s, and ASICMiner's 400k shares are 1.8 at the moment, that means ASICMiner is worth 720,000 BTC.
Labcoin hashing 1/84th as quickly, giving it an "ASICMiner equivalent valuation" of 8,571 BTC, or a per-share value of 0.00085.
I'm obviously not saying they're equivalent by any means, just pointing out the price you'd currently pay for shares that would get the same dividends as ASICMiner, not counting ASICMiner hardware sales.
If they can get it up to 706Gh/s they could justify their current 0.0015Btc price, and would need 941Gh/s to justify a 0.002BTC price.
Intradesting. Plot thickens
Solylent,
Your analysis is interesting. Because the BF market is so thin, it would not take much for the price to go back up.
Ken IS bad at PR and communication, but the eASIC deal is real and the chip will be produced.
Some folk seem to enjoy taunting and causing chaos. They have no investment in ActM, but just like to throws garbage from the sidelines. ON the other hand, this is the Internet and a Forum. I remember how when VMC first was announced, Ken got attacked all the time, and his retidence, that is, his refusal to respond to the various idiots was an effective approach.
On $5700 could move the price back up. AND it is absolutely accurate that several people have sold ActM shares to get into NeoBEE. I know I have.
The current low price screams opportunity for the future and not disaster.
Once the NeoBEE hysteria is over, I will be returning my profits from that into ActM.
Your analysis is interesting. Because the BF market is so thin, it would not take much for the price to go back up.
Ken IS bad at PR and communication, but the eASIC deal is real and the chip will be produced.
Some folk seem to enjoy taunting and causing chaos. They have no investment in ActM, but just like to throws garbage from the sidelines. ON the other hand, this is the Internet and a Forum. I remember how when VMC first was announced, Ken got attacked all the time, and his retidence, that is, his refusal to respond to the various idiots was an effective approach.
On $5700 could move the price back up. AND it is absolutely accurate that several people have sold ActM shares to get into NeoBEE. I know I have.
The current low price screams opportunity for the future and not disaster.
Once the NeoBEE hysteria is over, I will be returning my profits from that into ActM.
I think for anyone to dump now is absolutely crazy. Seriously, think about it. As of this moment, it would take ~46 Bitcoins to bring the price back up to IPO. That is about $5,700 USD. I mean... I can understand maybe not wanting to buy right now, but to sell at these prices... Really?
People like icebreaker and pankkake are giving you a dose of reality. Why you guys have developed such an endearing emotional connection to a company is beyond me.
1. Money from recent IPO's never magically seeps back in to the activemining orderbook. The little bit that does never has the dramatic effect you guys predict.
2. Anyone with a clue would be running for the hills with the way this venture has been handled. Marketing is garbage and the crap sales volume proves it. On one hand you've got cointerra et al chalking up $15 mil in sales while activemining has like $1 mil? The opportunity to drum up interest, support, preorders etc was totally squandered - difference in sales volume is the result.
Good idea, shit execution.
pankkake consistently makes good points whether it concerns labcoin, activemining etc and just gets berated for it.
pankkake is an observer who shits on all mining companies not just activemining and is against the idea of "big mining". His opinion can be valuable in a sea of "lol everyone just selling cos they don't know how awesome activemining is"
Crumbs is annoying with his constant pony crap and quoting the share price but his sentiment is basically the same thing - generally sour investment opportunity.
Before you go on about "long term investing", you could make more money selling out when its obviously its going to plummet (was shocked people were dumb enough to buy into eAsic announcement), then if you thought this venture still had a chance you could buy at the bottom near IPO or IPO price.
The one case you couldn't do this is if you are sitting on so many shares that its unfeasible to demolish the order book because you're going to bust into below IPO territory.
Then again, VE didn't give a fuk - he murdered the bids - goes to show how bad it has gotten.
Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)
Hm, got it. Well, there are many possibilities even the proportional share payment common in pools could be having an effect. We need to wait at least 24 to 48 hours to really get a sense of the hash speed...
Lol its just always a little more time with labcoin isn't it
Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)
I ll just watch how the XBond "pre-IPO" unfolds... although with only 500,000 shares @ 0.0025 and 1250BTC market cap, this could easily be manipulated.
Xbond holders don't receive their shares until 3 days after the public IPVO
Re: [LABCOIN] IPO [BTCT.CO] - Details/FAQ and Discussion (ASIC dev/sales/mining)
pankkake, Labcoin is hashing with their own rig, the address has been posted back a few pages and my Active Mining investment is about vaporise.
I don't see a relation with ActiveMining.Well it does, because once Labcoin prove they are hashing Active will probably die, the two main stocks for mining companies on BTCT.co is Active and Lab, who gets there first....
(Also you frequent the Active threads as much as Labcoin threads and I know how much you think us Active holders are idiots (And probably right)
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I hope your having a better day than I am.
And yes I hold Labcoin, but no where near as much as my Active position unfortunately.
Or is this a joke I'm not getting?And yes I hold Labcoin, but no where near as much as my Active position unfortunately.
No not a joke I'm just sad and wanted to say something. Hopefully if Labcoin takes off it will counter my Active position a little, do you agree?
Dude what are you even talking about... Your holdings in active mining aren't going to magically vaporise - irrespective of labcoin's success (or lack thereof).
No shareholder of active mining is expecting active mining to beat labcoin to market. Not sure what you were thinking when you bought into active mining if you thought that was the case...
And for what its worth I don't own labcoin or active mining shares but their IPO's sure were juicy.
Ah very convenient, you forgot to mention all the holes in the Cointerra plot thus far
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=292998.msg3138976#msg3138976
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=292998.msg3138976#msg3138976
aaaaaaand ignored.
All the best with labcon.
Skeptic > blind faith
Re: [ActiveMining] The Official Active Mining Discussion Thread
What the bloody hell is happening to this company?
How can the price crash this badly, oh my god.
If two competing companies, namely Cointerra and HASHFAST can sell $17,000,000 worth of pre-orders between them then there is no excuse for us not having sold half that ammount.
So, if this is true (and should be) and Ken is saying that we have sold 8 X the ammount on pre-orders than we have spent on advertising that means Active Mining have spent $1,062,500 on advertising.
I'd suggest that the actual figure for ActM advertising spend is significantly lower than $1,062,500 and this means that we are significantly behind our competitiors in terms of pre-orders.
I'm not going to go into reasons why this is the case, but the much discussed web-site issues may be a good place to start.
I want for someone to explain to me why on Earth anyone would invest in this company right now. Because the way I see it the foundations are crumbling around us.
Get it sorted!
http://thegenesisblock.com/cointerra-and-hashfast-sell-17m-of-bitcoin-miners-open-second-batch-sales/
How can the price crash this badly, oh my god.
If two competing companies, namely Cointerra and HASHFAST can sell $17,000,000 worth of pre-orders between them then there is no excuse for us not having sold half that ammount.
So, if this is true (and should be) and Ken is saying that we have sold 8 X the ammount on pre-orders than we have spent on advertising that means Active Mining have spent $1,062,500 on advertising.
I'd suggest that the actual figure for ActM advertising spend is significantly lower than $1,062,500 and this means that we are significantly behind our competitiors in terms of pre-orders.
I'm not going to go into reasons why this is the case, but the much discussed web-site issues may be a good place to start.
I want for someone to explain to me why on Earth anyone would invest in this company right now. Because the way I see it the foundations are crumbling around us.
Get it sorted!
http://thegenesisblock.com/cointerra-and-hashfast-sell-17m-of-bitcoin-miners-open-second-batch-sales/
No sh*t dude you've been watching amateur hour marketing & promotion.
Anyone who has looked at this situation rationally and isn't holding a giant amount of shares has already cashed out. Now you're stuck with ~0.0018 asks on bitfunder... and god forbid you needed to liquidate some cash quickly.. ~0.0015 and less. Heres hoping you bought at .0005
Hopefully for the rest of you Ken will deliver in a big way come November.