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Re: Can Libra Disrupt The Financial/Economic System?
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seraph_the_wise
on 15/09/2019, 00:52:57 UTC
Libra is not open selling for the public and we don't know how much effect have for other altcoin, maybe its can stop how bitcoin raised up and never have chance become the same with bitcoin position.

Indeed. One of the key factors will be how accessible/liquid it will be on the open markets. How and where will it trade vs other pairs.
If it's only available to hold in select wallets such Calibra, than very little impact.
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Re: Fed and Europe and Even Australia did rate cut but btc Still low
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seraph_the_wise
on 13/09/2019, 00:49:12 UTC
They are not net positive when it comes to stuff like gold though, I mean people do not pick the "safer" option of gold because in the end because of the rate cuts the stock investments and even other stuff becomes much more safer and since they are safer people do not go for the gold type safe options.

This is why bitcoin will not be affected by this, I mean we are talking about people who are moving from a safe option to another safe option, bitcoin is so crazy we literally went from 1k on 2017 summer to 20k on 2017 December to 3k in 2018 November to 10k in 2019 June, that is like 1.5 years of INSANE movements which means those people who prefer stuff like golds or stocks and looks for rate cuts will not be actually going to bitcoin route. These are "safe" people and bitcoin is not for them.

Indeed. The current trend is the movement to "perceived" safe assets such as gold, T-bonds and fiat currencies such as CHF and YEN. Some investors do have residuals in BTC, but these are already invested and won't move anytime soon.
This is in anticipation of a next bust of the global economy, and that capital will stay put for a while. This may or may not happen. If nothing comes to past, then the capital will re-enter the market in due time. If something does happen, well.. the same, but with a longer timeframe. Regardless investors want dry powder, and they want it now.

To put it simply, its unlikely BTC will reach a new high until the S&P500 reaches a new high.
A worldwide financial calamity may not be as positive for the health of BTC as many may think.
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Re: Cryptocurrency, KYC and Terrorism
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seraph_the_wise
on 12/09/2019, 00:59:26 UTC
Some have speculated that terrorists have discovered a way to use the platform crypto currency to gather identities from different people from all over the world. use their identities for terrorist activities. From threads that i have seen, there are people thinking that some ICOs are used to fund terrorist acts by luring investors into investing into their companies, getting KYC in exchange of money, gather a large sum of it and then run away with big bags of bucks.
IMO, these scenarios have big possibilities since there is the anonymity factor feature of crypto currency, we really do not have the knowledge as to whom and where the money will go for when it was transacted in cyberspace.

what are your thoughts on this?

That's some interesting point.
Most people worry about the use of ICOs in the context of money laundering / terrorist finance, which is quite unfounded. Those are trivial amounts compared to the big picture, and quite easy to trace for investigation purposes at high levels. Most of those activities probably use regular US dollars and plain vanilla banks (just look at the all the scandals. One after the other - https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/apr/17/deutsche-bank-faces-action-over-20bn-russian-money-laundering-scheme).

Data breaches are nothing new after all (https://www.forbes.com/sites/ronshevlin/2019/08/01/after-the-capital-one-data-breach),
but very little is said about the use of collected identification documents by ICOs (even if they never raise).
That's highly sensitive data that can be used to impersonate and do KYC in other institutions (more-so than a simple social security number). If this indeed is the case, I wonder what's the extent of the database and the price per individual.
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Re: Crypto, Universal income and cryogenics the redistribution of wealth
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seraph_the_wise
on 10/09/2019, 03:09:39 UTC


You mean as a matter of regular inflation? Presumably the base should periodically increase to account for that. I think that's how most welfare programs work.

Yes, in terms of both inflation and Purchasing power of goods.
If everyone is assumed to earn 1000 USD a month onwards, the purchasing power of 1000 USD would drop (even excluding base inflation).
Let's say I'm a business selling groceries, I may be tempted to raise prices of goods as I can assume people have a higher level of disposable income to buy. This is specially true for low-value commodity goods. Nowadays the lowest expected baseline is zero and the average is the medium salary.
Inflation-wise, this decrease in PPI has been happening already for decades (just compare the purchasing power of 1000USD in 1960 vs now).
I just think it would compound to the issue at a faster rate. I also agree there are mitigation measures that could be enacted to control rapid inflation, price & rent controls, and more. But those measures might not be universally well received by people and business alike (generating other unintended effects).

There's a wide variety of proposals out there based on different goals and principles. I think a reasonable policy would vary by region based on actual living costs. $1,000/month is enough to live well in Alabama. In California, there are homeless people living on the same amount.
Indeed, we could set a reasonable amount. If we consider 1000 USD / month in all states, then one of the incentives is for people that don't want to work to move to places where they can maximize their purchasing power (eg: countryside, away from metropolitan centres). This could actually decreased homelessness in big metropolis and decrease pressure on services & infrastructure. All states would need to agree, and some would be subsidized by the Federal Government if needed (UBI would be handed at a federal level I assume). If so, one of the unintended consequences could be an increased asymmetry between states over time (due to the change of demography and internal economic migration incentives).

It varies by proposal. This is the conventional definition as I understand it:
A basic income is a periodic cash payment unconditionally delivered to all on an individual basis, without means-test or work requirement.
Ok, this one can be tricky and I think implementation details would be critical for UBI to work.
For example, if truly unconditional per person and in absence of other welfare programs, then we create a strong incentive to have kids and maximize income per household (not necessarily provide and educate them in the best way). Assuming the best higher education remains private an unaffordable for many, a new generation could grow up with lower skills for the job market, increasing the chances they would rely on UBI and keep unemployed (another compound effect that could strain the system, as more people would draw funds). This would be great for the birth rate though and to be fair aligns quite well with the polarizing future of the job market with increased automation (very high number of non-repetitive low skills & low number of creative specialized ones).
Another issue would be foreign market distortions (assuming a single country implements it)
One could just receive their UBI, fly to Vietnam or a low-cost country and live quite well. If a sufficient number of people opt to do so, this amount to a lot of capital leaving the U.S. economy to foreign countries with no UBI policy (or one with lower thresholds). Again, I concede that this could be mitigated by travel restrictions for UBIs. Possibly withholding the freedom to travel abroad if unemployed or requiring a certain amount of funds.

Any UBI policy would need to be very comprehensively detailed, in order to be resilient, and would need to consider macro-effects on economics, internal & external emigration & immigration policy, population growth & job market prospects, services planning, business incentives and more.
Trust that the UBI policy would not fail would be the last and critical element of the whole endeavour.
If we get a politician who manages to a least try it in my lifetime, I'll eat my hat and give him a satoshi for good measure  Smiley
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Re: Crypto, Universal income and cryogenics the redistribution of wealth
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seraph_the_wise
on 09/09/2019, 22:00:32 UTC
Even if it's rent money, food money, water money, heating money, condom money, beer money that is given to somebody for free it still must be taken from somebody else. Even if we all get this minimum income, not all of us pay for it. And this is called wealth redistribution.
I agree with you, but this already happens in all Western nations to some degree or another: https://www.oecd.org/social/expenditure.htm
The OECD average is 20% of a country's GDP is spent on social welfare. USA is slightly below this at 18.7%, but there are some European countries which spend much higher amounts on welfare spending. If UBI is going to reduce the amount spent on welfare because of the reason I mentioned above (I'm not saying it will, but if it does) then surely it's worth looking in to?

Exactly, that's the discussion we need to be having. UBI is intended to replace other welfare programs that are riddled with bureaucracy and are highly inefficient. Social Security spends an incredible amount of money on lengthy application/interview processes, regular case reviews, and fraud investigations, most of which would be eliminated if replaced with UBI.

We also need to consider that minimal income will deter crime and reduce healthcare costs as it will keep people from being completely destitute and homeless. I don't know where other posters live, but the homeless problem is accelerating badly in the US. People can turn a blind eye to it and say they don't want to give these people handouts, but they will end up paying for it one way or another through the healthcare and prison systems funded by their tax dollars.

Although there are credible benefits to an UBI program as a full-scale system intended to replace all other wellfare programs, I do see some major issues at the implementation level. Assuming a private sector still exists and no full automation (not feasible in many centuries unless we get AGI):

1) If everyone earns the same minimum base, why wouldn't individual purchasing power decrease as prices increase for goods, services and rent?
Over time this would reduce the purchasing power of the UBI, unless the amount is increased (extra burden on the state) or other price control measures are implemented (creating distortions and a parallel economy).

2) How exactly does one set the fair handout value of the UBI? Lowest common denominator for sustenance, highest wellfare provided?
Does it vary by region/state? (eg: 1000 USD in NY will not get you a lot, but can be enough for a remote place in the countryside).

3) How 'universal" is it? Would it be distributed to "all" people? Whats the criteria exactly?
All citizens? All legal residents? Can one travel? Is one entitled if living abroad? What about dual citizens? (can one claim multiple UBIs?) Is there a minimum age? (eg: if one has 5 teenage kids, can they collect 5 UBIs on their behalf?). Does it stop at a certain age? (eg: how does it work with seniors receiving pensions)?

Just some food for thought  Huh
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Re: Global economic and trade crisis
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seraph_the_wise
on 08/09/2019, 22:41:25 UTC
As countries' economies face major challenges, the biggest economic crisis in history will come out in recent years. What methods will you use to avoid the biggest economic crisis in history?

It’s part of a cycle and really can't be avoided due to the underlying problems and unwillingness to solve them. Especially when nothing was really "fixed" from the last financial crisis.
But one can use the understanding that its coming to better protect and increase the chances of surviving it and prosper in the aftermath.
Many things are different since 2008, with cryptoassets and a more multilateral world.
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Re: Hong kong and China war can lead to possible Bitcoin popularity
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seraph_the_wise
on 06/09/2019, 00:09:17 UTC
We all know that China doesnt want to be involved on cryptocurrency for some reasons but after whats happening to China and Hong Kong, it seems like bitcoin would be the main option.

The two countries are currently under stress because People in Hong Kong vehemently oppose a proposed bill, which would give authorities the power to deport those suspected of crimes to mainland China.

Hong Kong people obviously engaged in a rally for them to change the leader's mind. With this, the people, most specially rich ones wanted to withdraw all their money in China or makes it anonymous that's why they are eyeing on bitcoin as the main option for transferring of wealth.

We dont want to have this kind of war between people or countries. Even though it will be a good way of boosting bitcoin, i hope it will not end in that way and resolve the problem of both countries. Its still not safe there till now. Lets pray for the people's safety.

Here's the full article
https://bitcoinist.com/hong-kong-protest-china-bitcoin-assets-offshore/

While civil unrest is certainly nothing positive and bad for HK as a business centre, I think it will lead to more awareness of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies.
From the protester's side, as a pseudo-anonymous payment method to replace cash transactions. This is key to avoid pervasive surveillance and flagging/targeting is you join or attend legal protests (eg: paying for metro rides, water, food).
Conversely it will also be used by HK residents that may be planning to move abroad due to said unrest. Although capital controls do not apply in the same way they do in mainland china, cryptocurrencies protect agains seizure of funds in the worst case scenario.
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Digital currency as a fix for a broken international monetary system
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seraph_the_wise
on 04/09/2019, 00:52:00 UTC
Interesting article on how a "synthetic hegemonic currencies" could mitigate some of flaws of our current system.
https://www-coindesk-com.cdn.ampproject.org/c/s/www.coindesk.com/a-crypto-fix-for-a-broken-international-monetary-system?amp

I strongly believe we are on the last years of the USD as a global reference currency. On the fiat-side the Yuan has been making great strides (despite capital controls), with even a proposal for a yuan-denominated crude oil barrel price. This is complemented by their digital yuan (CBDC) initiative to foster its foreign use as reserve currency in foreign markets.
The process is already underway, and if institutions continue to resist change, the less leverage they will get to enact it once they desperately need it.
The risk is replacing USD hegemony for (e)-Yuan hegemony. I would certainly prefer a more open system of interoperability.

I also believe such systems will need to be interoperable with open market cryptocurrencies at some point. Both can coexist as they serve different purposes.

What do you think?
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Re: How to Identify Good ICOs for Investment
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seraph_the_wise
on 03/09/2019, 08:29:56 UTC
In the flood of ICOs is really hard to tell which are worth investing. Sometimes is also hard to make a proper background check.
Even if it's not about scam majority of ICOs will not end well on the market so you will not make profit or it will be very little. That is why to my opinion ICOs are usually not worth time and money. Don't let greed to be your only motive.

Indeed. I tend to mostly agree with very few exceptions. Caveat Emptor rule always applies, but there is no standard way to evaluate / conduct due diligence.
Difficult to separate the marketing hype from the network value.

Team experience & profiles - Not a reliable indicator of project success
I've seen projects with teams of highly experience ppl and long resumes fail miserably while teams of humble no-names succeed and gain notoriety.
Having more tech ppl actually working full-time on the project does go a long-way.

Whitepaper - Does not represent anything other than a vision. Not to be relied for ROI purposes.

Corporate backing - Not a necessary guarantee of success, as many companies are keen to capitalize on marketing hype for stock valuation purposes or other

Clear use case - Most "clear" use cases today were only "obvious" in hindsight a few years afterwards.

The best projects are usually bland, boring stuff that takes time and effort to build, not very conductive to a media hype frenzy of revolutionizing/disrupting.
Think low-key projects raising low to medium amounts for a well-defined business-case.
Building stuff takes time, patience and hard work. Again, not rly aligned with pump&dump high-speculatory environment.

A project still alive and active after 2 years, with paying customers and revenue stream (from network, fees, etc) and a committed team.
That's the hallmark of success. That must come first so that the tokeneconomics fall in place.
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Re: CMC's new ranking approach kicks in Sep 2
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seraph_the_wise
on 31/08/2019, 03:34:43 UTC

Yeah, looking for a revamped methodology for years now. They should have tweaked it ages ago.
Liquidity should be a prominent factor for coins, as well as the number of markets served and DAU (for exchanges).
Not worried about fake volumes, as those have costs for the parties involved, cannot be kept forever and tend to fade as markets mature.
Overall a good overdue move to bring more clarity for all.
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Re: Can a Stock Market Crash affect Bitcoin?
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seraph_the_wise
on 29/08/2019, 22:27:19 UTC
I was thinking that investors would think the cryptocurrency market as an alternative to traditional investment products.
Having said that, my point was that those two markets have a reverse impact.

If the stock market goes down, then investors would start searching for alternative (more profitable) investments and turn to Bitcoin and cryptocurrencies.
The last days stock market crash seems that lead the market cap of the crypto market down.

Does the Stock Market has impact over the Bitcoin price?
I don't know but maybe it does just like what you've said if the stock market drops they might come to crypto as an alternative,
And what if they already gain profit from crypto they could justtake it all away and put it back in stock.
Who knows maybe there are some people who might have been doing it stocks to crypto or the other way around .

I see some individuals investors taking away money from stocks & bonds into cryptocurrencies.
That's for sure, but that would be tiny percentage with limited monetary impact.

Currently most institutional portfolios I've seen, cryptocurrency is less than 0.01%, as a high-risk asset to maximize returns and diversify.
Why not increase it further? Because after a point, the curve inverts and the systemic risk introduced by cryptoassets outweighs the diversification benefits. If anything, we have been slowly reducing exposure, not increasing; while also dumping GBP and increasing exposure to low volatility currencies such as Yen

When we have a severe market crash, the tendency is to flee to safer assets, not plunging into more uncertainty & risk (except for a few market contrarians, but those already made their move long ago). It's not rational but human nature.
I don't know a single institutional fund manager who would increase their risk potential in a downturn..even if its the right thing in hindsight...as they might as well lose their job in the worst time possible and a get a taint on their reputation. The scope of actions of a fund manager is severely constrained after all.. you don't get to do what you want... I wish.
Funds will probably do what traditionally has been done before and invest in safe assets with low volatility. That means fleeing to gold, US Gov Bonds, CHF, Yen, some real estate.
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Re: Bitcoin currency stability
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seraph_the_wise
on 25/08/2019, 23:57:21 UTC
To what extent will the economic war (between the US and China) affect its future impact on the bitcoin?
Will these countries resort to bitcoin to maintain their economic strength?  And avoid economic sanctions among them?
Will Bitcoin succeed in maintaining its strength and stability as it is not under central authority?

I really don't see a favourable direct correlation between economic war and bitcoin price.
Bitcoin in its current form is still too small to be used as an economic weapon between such big economies as China and the U.S.
As both trade blows, international investors would divert their portfolio to low volatility (perceived) safe assets, such as gold, Japanese Yen and the Swiss Franc.
A portion of that might actually be diverted away from BTC, diminishing liquidity, but as a marginal fraction.
Bitcoin's lack of central authority is what gives it its resilience, but at the same time prevents its stability. Nothing to do with adoption or externalities. Its pure supply and demand.
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Re: how supply of currency decided
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seraph_the_wise
on 25/08/2019, 23:41:23 UTC
how does the currency supply of a country is decided, I searched got that it should be equal to GDP is this true or it's an ideal condition

In theory it should be decided according to various economic goals, including target interest rate, inflation, expected growth, GDP, foreign trade, FX, foreign reserves and others.
In practice, as a government body / central bank you can do whatever you like (with corresponding consequences of course)
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Re: Zimbabwe government trying to push for new Zimbabwe Dollar - Surprised?
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seraph_the_wise
on 24/08/2019, 02:55:55 UTC
So basically all of us know what happened to the Zimbabwean economy at around 2007, where its hyperinflationary crisis peaked.

After that period, the government seemed to take a step back along with the central bank and say that for the interests of the economy, we're just going to not issue our own currency for the time being - but rather use USD, SA rands, CNY etc. as de facto currencies.

And then, the launched bond notes, which were supposed to be notes that have a pegged value to USD at 1:1. When I initially saw that I knew it was up to no good, since it was clear what this initiative was supposed to do in terms of being a launchpad for a new national currency.

Since then they've introduced what's called "RTGS dollars" (basically Zimbabwean dollars, except they want to dissociate from the negative connation that it brings), and removed the peg of 1:1 from bond notes (surprising, huh?  Roll Eyes)

Inflation has hit 170+% p.a. in recent days with this new currency, which is worrying since it's starting to resemble the 2007 situation all over again.

I'm interested in hearing opinions as to how the population in Zimbabwe can protect themselves given that forex is now banned essentially, and what you think the direction will be for the economy of Zimbabwe for the future.

Yes, pretty much the same hyperinflation effects as last time. Just with digital "printing", instead of a physical one.
Very sad.
Best thing for the population would be to use alternative open digital currencies for daily transactions and assume the current value of RTGS is zero.
Once a hyperinflation cycle starts all trust is broken and its only downhill from there. Might as well scrap the current national currency again and use something that works.
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Re: Fiat Money is a Bubble
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seraph_the_wise
on 21/08/2019, 23:49:03 UTC
Since many people try to convince us that Bitcoin is a bubble and how we will lose our money eventually, I wonder if money is not a bubble actually. There exist economies in which money has a positive value in spite its market fundamental is zero. That means fiat money has zero value. Fiat money is a social contrivance. We take money from other people because we know other people will take it from us. In theory and practice the fiat money is a bubble.

Indeed, for many fiat money is a "bubble" Wink
But which long-term complex economic system isn't?
Its about how long they last until they are replaced with something more intricate and complex.
So far the Bretton Woods / oil-backed USD / debt-fuelled model has held. Cracks were forming before cryptocurrencies showed up. More are showing faster than they can be fixed.
Cash is being digitally "printed" like crazy, while paper bills are being slowly discontinued. An opaque game of numbers.
With all its flaws, cryptocurrency is the path forward for greater accountability, freedom and transparency.
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Re: We need a movie about Bitcoin
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seraph_the_wise
on 19/08/2019, 23:45:39 UTC
I don't think Hollywood has what it takes to make a decent movie about the theme of Bitcoin and crypto without derailing into cliche tasteless action flick.
It would be too much to cram into a 90-minute show.

Now a Netflix (non-documental) action series on the overall theme of cryptocurrencies, that would be something else.

Lots of possibilities. Mysterious creators, enormous portable and untraceable wealth that can fit in your pocket, exotic locations, multiple government agencies competing against each other, rogue state actors, the effects of unknown technology, disruption of financial system, personal tragedy, human greed and ambition. Not even touching ICOs and many other topics

Binge-worthy for sure.  Smiley
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Re: How negative interest rates affect Bitcoin
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seraph_the_wise
on 19/08/2019, 03:59:11 UTC

Negative interest rates are spreading all over the world, and it seems this trend is here to stay.

How do you think it will affect Bitcoin value in the long term ?

Will Bitcoin rise because negative interest rates are just another form of money printing ?

Although we don't know for sure the impact on Bitcoin, one thing is sure: developed economies are stagnating and the pace of innovation is decreasing.
Negative interest rates are a form of nudge to stimulate investment, pushing towards higher risk and higher return, instead of negative yields.
BTC and other cryptos are not correlated with the performance of traditional financial assets, making it a possible attractive investment for a diversification strategy.
It can serve as a safe asset that cannot be seized, which is a key features in a multi-lateral world in turmoil (trade wars, proxy wars, sanctions).
Since BTC is decentralized and not bound to the performance of a specific economy, it's likely to be more appealing than ever.
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Re: Crypto replacing fiat?
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seraph_the_wise
on 01/08/2019, 17:27:36 UTC
Lets say crypto completely and utterly replaced fiat. Fiats don't exist anymore. All governments have seen the advantage of using digital currency and have completely changed their fiat into crypto, like dollar to dollar token(obviously not tether). How viable is this? For example anyone can see how much I am holding using the public ledger and track me down and force me into sending them the cryptos I hold. I wanna discuss in reality if cryptos actually replace fiat how life will be and what are the problems we are gonna face and the immediate effects of it.   

While it is certainly possible that will happen in the future, the question how will we get there?
From a non-investment perspective, lets focus on 4 main issues:
1) Lack of volatility
3) Acceptance by businesses
2) Acceptance by users
4) Non-interference by governments

1) Lack of volatility is a no-brainer for any successful crypto to be a reliable means of exchange in regions with economic stability and banking.
Sure, we have stablecoins (fiat-backed, gold-backed, basket-backed, algorithmic) serving as a bridge for exchanges, but at present none have enough scale to replace a regular fiat currency (liquidity-wise) nor have the transparent governance mechanisms to resist systemic shocks (trust-wise). Libra, if it works as envisioned might actually work on this front.
2) Use and acceptance by businesses (merchants) is quite a crucial factor often overlooked by our community. P2P transactions, volume and liquidity are great, but if no outlet accepts it, you still need to convert through an intermediary. Payment provider integration is likely to be the case forward here, as accepting on-chain payment is not cost-effective nor scalable to multiple chains (plus connecting to exchange to manage balance sheet).  It needs to happen at scale, ruling out small shops as enablers of scale and entering the territory of medium-to-large business. At that level the bottleneck to decision-making process is compliance department and top management. A compelling business reason needs to be presented why they should integrate a new provider, with expected revenue increase. The best way forward here is to support a crypto-payment provider that provides the best service and helping them grow. This can be done by constantly nagging your favourite business to integrate provider XYX (not a specific currency like BTC). This will be a long-term effort and the community really needs to step up on this.
3) This ties in with the previous one. If a business adopts a new payment provider and sees no usage, they will drop it and mark it as a failed experiment. Usage by mainstream users is crucial, generating "sales" volume that can maintain the option compelling. Having a great UX and consumer-friendly is also key here (think of PayPal and their refund protection. If I get scammed I want to contact someone and get my money back. If this is not possible, I'm gonna leave a bad review on the merchant and we all know business LOVE bad reviews).
4) This one is the one we can least influence, but quite important for business acceptance. If governments pass regulation clarifying their stance on cryptoassets (not all are made alike), especially payment-oriented tokens and corresponding tax treatments, this will gradually erase the negative ecosystem connotations and decrease risk of adopting new technology.

Just my 2 cents  Cool Might be wrong though  Wink
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Re: Is bitcoin volatility here to stay?
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seraph_the_wise
on 31/07/2019, 11:35:32 UTC
I am a strong believer in HODL. I expected bitcoin volatility decreases as time goes by, I totally didn't expect such big price change in the past several days.

Is bitcoin volatility here to stay and not decrease?

Yes, here to stay for a long while. Bitcoin volatility is a result of Bitcoin fundamental value drivers (varying supply and demand on an open market).
This is no stablecoin with pegged value, nor a stock tied to a company's future revenues.
How much volatility? Hard to predict. There is no reliable VIX to Bitcoin, but could change if ETFs are introduced (feel free to correct me if wrong here).
Long-term (10 to 20yr plus) is likely the volatility could be lower, due to block reward halving and stabilization of new supply vs existing supply.
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Re: Does China Control Bitcoin?
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seraph_the_wise
on 27/07/2019, 20:50:14 UTC
While currently there is no evidence of direct Chinese state interference with the Bitcoin network, this could become a credible attack vector in the future.
I believe its economic value its still too low to be of real concern, becoming more so as it grows (and likewise the same for other state actors).

There will the serious possibility of covert tampering using state-own-enteprises to control miners while disrupt non-chinese miners, using the GFW for technical interference, and undermining consensus by destabilization.
There was an excellent paper on this topic published by Ben Kaiser, Mireya Jurado & Alex Ledger (circa 2018):

The Looming Threat of China: An Analysis of Chinese Influence on Bitcoin
https://[Suspicious link removed]/2Yvlg74

Check it out if your keen  Wink