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I remain unconvinced of the flat earth "buoyancy" theory of gravity because of the inconsistencies and contradictions, and because of the inability of proponents to explain it. I wonder if this one would be more suitable: Le Sage's theory of gravitation
From where ever you are on earth up is up: plants grow up in the material world.. its where we are on this earth...or this density... things above this density are of less density and things below us are of more density in relation to AetherBut if you are up in America, Chinese and Aussies are down. Of course, they don't know it.
I remain unconvinced of the flat earth "buoyancy" theory of gravity because of the inconsistencies and contradictions, and because of the inability of proponents to explain it. I wonder if this one would be more suitable: Le Sage's theory of gravitation
From where ever you are on earth up is up: plants grow up in the material world.. its where we are on this earth...or this density... things above this density are of less density and things below us are of more density in relation to AetherHe got alot of Faith.!................... but only in nasa.
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(and certain artists)
I sometimes dig for buttered rolls,
Or set limed twigs for crabs;
I sometimes search the grassy knolls
For wheels of hansom-cabs.
And that's the way" (he gave a wink)
"By which I get my wealth--
And very gladly will I drink
Your honor's noble health
I heard him then, for I had just
Completed my design
To keep the Menai bridge from rust
By boiling it in wine.
I thanked him much for telling me
The way he got his wealth,
But chiefly for his wish that he
Might drink my noble health.
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(and certain artists)
I sometimes dig for buttered rolls,
Or set limed twigs for crabs;
I sometimes search the grassy knolls
For wheels of hansom-cabs.
And that's the way" (he gave a wink)
"By which I get my wealth--
And very gladly will I drink
Your honor's noble health
I heard him then, for I had just
Completed my design
To keep the Menai bridge from rust
By boiling it in wine.
I thanked him much for telling me
The way he got his wealth,
But chiefly for his wish that he
Might drink my noble health.
What do you think? Does notbatman know Hebrew? How about Ancient Hebrew? How about enough to translate the Bible better than all the English Bible scholars who have studied Ancient Hebrew for years?
Just another flaw in flat Earth thinking, that you can use the Bible to determine the shape of the earth.
Notice his first paragraph, above. He's talking about flat Earth. Since all the things happen that he is talking about, but he says they don't, he is simply stating that FE doesn't exist.
People like you say lots of ignorant things. So, what?
I certainly don't know as much about the flat Earth fiction as notbatman does. But why would I want to? It's hard enough keeping up with all the factual findings on factual globe Earth, and the factual universe.
Why would you think that NASA can speak? People and a few animals speak, not corporations.
NASA doesn't explain anything. People explain things... even about waters.
So, you show that you are deceitful by trying to trick us all into thinking that NASA speaks and explains.
What do you think? Does notbatman know Hebrew? How about Ancient Hebrew? How about enough to translate the Bible better than all the English Bible scholars who have studied Ancient Hebrew for years?
Just another flaw in flat Earth thinking, that you can use the Bible to determine the shape of the earth.
Notice his first paragraph, above. He's talking about flat Earth. Since all the things happen that he is talking about, but he says they don't, he is simply stating that FE doesn't exist.
People like you say lots of ignorant things. So, what?
I certainly don't know as much about the flat Earth fiction as notbatman does. But why would I want to? It's hard enough keeping up with all the factual findings on factual globe Earth, and the factual universe.
Water droplets alone can't produce the rainbows we see in the sky. For me a concave mirrored firmament is something I know, this is because a rainbow can't be created inside with only an artificial light source. However, once a mirror is added to the equation the indoor rainbow becomes a reality.
BADecker tries to use the English translations as the root of his argument instead of looking up what rāqîaʿ means. He continuously makes intellectually dishonest arguments, he's permanently cucked on the heavenly spheres.
"The celestial spheres, or celestial orbs, were the fundamental entities of the cosmological models developed by Plato, Eudoxus, Aristotle, Ptolemy, Copernicus, and others. ..." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celestial_spheres
BADecker tries to use the English translations as the root of his argument instead of looking up what rāqîaʿ means. He continuously makes intellectually dishonest arguments, he's permanently cucked on the heavenly spheres.
"The celestial spheres, or celestial orbs, were the fundamental entities of the cosmological models developed by Plato, Eudoxus, Aristotle, Ptolemy, Copernicus, and others. ..." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celestial_spheres
What do you think? Does notbatman kbnow Hebrew? How about Ancient Hebrew? How about enough to translate the Bible better than all the English Bible scholars who have studied Ancient Hebrew for years?
Just another flaw in flat Earth thinking, that you can use the Bible to determine the shape of the earth.
Notice his first paragraph, above. He's talking about flat Earth. Since all the things happen that he is talking about, but he says they don't, he is simply stating that FE doesn't exist.
verse 6. God placed the materials for making the sun and stars, yes, and even the moon, into the sky that He made when He separated the muddy waters.
??I think ive found your problem.!
You are reading the wrong book.!!!!, or you must have a bad copy.
This is verse 6
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
But you haven't explained what my problem is, why you think that I am reading some wrong book. Rather, you have agreed with me by quoting verse 6.
"Firmament" is "expanse" or "sky." Although it isn't generally interpreted this way, it might mean the aether. Depending on which part of the firmament one is talking about, it could be the atmosphere area, inner space like where the ISS circles, or outer space where the stars exist.
You didn't quote verse 6 of genesis.!! Thats why i dont agree with you.!.... Where did the mud come from.? Which verse.?
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Not only but also the word "sky" isnt even mentioned till.
Deuteronomy 33:26
There is none like unto the God of Jeshurun, who rideth upon the heaven in thy help, and in his excellency on the sky
I put it to you sir. That you are reading the wrong book and that therefore you have no basis or frame of reference on which to make claim in this world.
1 Samuel 2:8
He raiseth up the poor out of the dust, and lifteth up the beggar from the dunghill, to set them among princes, and to make them inherit the throne of glory: for the pillars of the earth are the LORD'S, and he hath set the world upon them.
So what happened to the waters from above the firmament that were so.?
And where did the universe come in or is that the same thing in your book?
The waters are still there. Keep in mind the standard understanding of the universe as astronomy describes, and read your answer here:
Since you seem to enjoy twisting what the Bible says, you aren't any different than the anti-God atheists.
You skip right on by the place where God made the sky... verse 6. God placed the materials for making the sun and stars, yes, and even the moon, into the sky that He made when He separated the muddy waters.
Because God was working with the waters on Earth, He simply calls them the waters under the sky. He never says that he left the waters above the sky together in one sea, or that the waters above the sky were not in other parts of the sky. After all, if you were on one of those spheres of water, it would seem that all the other spheres of water were above the sky, as well.
The Bible isn't there for its description of the shape of the earth. But you can tell that the earth is something like a sphere if you read all the parts together. Then, modern (and some not so modern) technology proves that the Bible is right.
Besides, if you were so Bible inclined, and such a righteous person, you would at least give me the benefit of the doubt, for saying things that are easily right, even if they are not. You treat me like I am a sleazebag, something a Bible person wouldn't do. So, you prove that you are misusing the Bible when you do this, because you are being unrighteous.
With regard to this link, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5222193.msg53798756#msg53798756, The heavens are God's throne. You sit on a throne, like God sits on the heavens... outside of the universe, sitting on the shell of the universe. But the earth is His footstool, because He has made Himself to exist within the universe, and to walk upon the earth with men... in the form of Jesus.
You are missing it quite badly.
You skip right on by the place where God made the sky... verse 6. God placed the materials for making the sun and stars, yes, and even the moon, into the sky that He made when He separated the muddy waters.
Because God was working with the waters on Earth, He simply calls them the waters under the sky. He never says that he left the waters above the sky together in one sea, or that the waters above the sky were not in other parts of the sky. After all, if you were on one of those spheres of water, it would seem that all the other spheres of water were above the sky, as well.
The Bible isn't there for its description of the shape of the earth. But you can tell that the earth is something like a sphere if you read all the parts together. Then, modern (and some not so modern) technology proves that the Bible is right.
Besides, if you were so Bible inclined, and such a righteous person, you would at least give me the benefit of the doubt, for saying things that are easily right, even if they are not. You treat me like I am a sleazebag, something a Bible person wouldn't do. So, you prove that you are misusing the Bible when you do this, because you are being unrighteous.
With regard to this link, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5222193.msg53798756#msg53798756, The heavens are God's throne. You sit on a throne, like God sits on the heavens... outside of the universe, sitting on the shell of the universe. But the earth is His footstool, because He has made Himself to exist within the universe, and to walk upon the earth with men... in the form of Jesus.
You are missing it quite badly.
??I think ive found your problem.!
You are reading the wrong book.!!!!, or you must have a bad copy.
This is verse 6
And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
^ rāqîaʿ
"...the firmament is the vast solid dome created by God on the second day to divide the primal sea (called tehom) into upper and lower portions so that the dry land could appear..." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament
"...the firmament is the vast solid dome created by God on the second day to divide the primal sea (called tehom) into upper and lower portions so that the dry land could appear..." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament
Possibly the most solid thing in the universe is the dome. The dome is, essentially, empty space. It reaches throughout all material into the emptiness where material barely exists. It is many light-years "high," and contains all material things, flowing through them.
This is what is said in Genesis chapter 1, especially verses 6 thru 9. How do we know that Genesis says this, even though Genesis doesn't talk about light-years? Because we have found that it is light-years in fact. So, that is what Genesis is saying.
KJV
Gen 7 And God made the firmament and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament and it was so
Gen 8 And god called the firmament Heaven and the evening and the morning were the second day.
Gen 9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
So your saying Heaven is light years high?
In answer to your question, kinda no. What I mean is, if you are standing at the North Pole, the heavens are light-years high above you and the North Pole. But they aren't light-years high above the South Pole, because the South Pole is "under" you almost 8,000 miles, and the heavens that are light-years away in the direction of the South Pole, are light-years "low"... at least until you go to the South Pole. Then the heavens are light-years high above you.
Remember that St. Paul talked about being caught up to the third heaven. We have 3 heavens in simple general. The first is a layer that is the atmosphere above Earth, and it includes what we call inner space where the ISS orbits. The second is the thing that we call outer space.
The third is God's heavenly home: Heaven is God's throne; the earth is His footstool. His heavenly home is a "space" outside of the universe, that essentially "surrounds" the universe.
So what happened to the waters from above the firmament that were so.?
And where did the universe come in or is that the same thing in your book?
^ rāqîaʿ
"...the firmament is the vast solid dome created by God on the second day to divide the primal sea (called tehom) into upper and lower portions so that the dry land could appear..." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament
"...the firmament is the vast solid dome created by God on the second day to divide the primal sea (called tehom) into upper and lower portions so that the dry land could appear..." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmament
Possibly the most solid thing in the universe is the dome. The dome is, essentially, empty space. It reaches throughout all material into the emptiness where material barely exists. It is many light-years "high," and contains all material things, flowing through them.
This is what is said in Genesis chapter 1, especially verses 6 thru 9. How do we know that Genesis says this, even though Genesis doesn't talk about light-years? Because we have found that it is light-years in fact. So, that is what Genesis is saying.
KJV
Gen 7 And God made the firmament and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament and it was so
Gen 8 And god called the firmament Heaven and the evening and the morning were the second day.
Gen 9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
So your saying Heaven is light years high?
There's no puzzle, no riddle, we are on a stationary plane inside an engineered structure. Organized crime has subverted all of society with their bullshit, it's not a case of scientists being mistaken, they're corrupt.
You realize god in the bible talks about the other stars right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bK9h12Qdvs
I think I've identified a pattern here.
You did, good job. Next up - object permanence. We'll get to astrophysics in no time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLhN__oEHaw
Flat earthers only have talk.
Ball earthers only have fake photo's and video's. Always using those fisheye lenses.
But I still believe the earth is a sphere because it seems much more logical.
Ball earthers only have fake photo's and video's. Always using those fisheye lenses.
But I still believe the earth is a sphere because it seems much more logical.
Can you expand on that? Why is it more logical, any examples?
The flat earth's sun is much smaller compared to the spherical earth's sun. Would it be logical for such a small sun to emit so much energy? My answer would be no.
The outer part of the plane (south) would be too large. You can see this by the squares of some flat earth maps, look it up. Each square represents the same amount of distance.
According to flath earthers everything falls down because of mass, they deny the existence of gravity. That's not logical to me.
Flat earthers say many weird things like the moon creates it's own light. But everytime when I see the moonlight it's the sun who's shining it's light on the moon. It's never from an other direction.
Flat earthers only have talk.
Ball earthers only have fake photo's and video's. Always using those fisheye lenses.
But I still believe the earth is a sphere because it seems much more logical.
Ball earthers only have fake photo's and video's. Always using those fisheye lenses.
But I still believe the earth is a sphere because it seems much more logical.
You are asleep in the poppy fields.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aRY03RtwHQ