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Yes everyone counts. The more there are in, the more power we have. And since it doesn't cost anything until there is a refund it should not be a problem for anyone to join.
The haircut would be much better than the one TF was offering btw.
..so ..yes!
The haircut would be much better than the one TF was offering btw.
..so ..yes!
Should those with a single BTC at CL even bother with this?
332.2162344:CL
I am interested
Thank you!
EDIT:
Just read trough the site of imf. They do work in asia as well.
It won't cost if there is no success.
They will get 25-45% success fee of the recovered amount.
If they freeze the assets that do belong to him and maybe the btc adresses which we can figure out are his.
Don't know how much they know about working on btc though.
if WE ALL WORK TOGETHER we are at about 5m aud.
I think that sounds better than waiting for TF to maybe talk again one day.. and it wont cost if there is no refund
I am interested
Thank you!
EDIT:
Just read trough the site of imf. They do work in asia as well.
It won't cost if there is no success.
They will get 25-45% success fee of the recovered amount.
If they freeze the assets that do belong to him and maybe the btc adresses which we can figure out are his.
Don't know how much they know about working on btc though.
if WE ALL WORK TOGETHER we are at about 5m aud.
I think that sounds better than waiting for TF to maybe talk again one day.. and it wont cost if there is no refund
Who does still have coins in cl and is willing to do something about it?
I have about 300 in there. Where are the other ones with many coins? ..Lets work together! I already got some information.
PM me
I have about 300 in there. Where are the other ones with many coins? ..Lets work together! I already got some information.
PM me
Re: CoinLenders Script :: Bitcoin Bank (Borrow+Deposit) Software :: Demo Available
I REALLY whis this would be possible in any way.
I think the effort would be worth it and the site would have many users after a while.
Just thinking about that a "demo" site already had so many btc in it. A licensed run site would be able to manage a lot more and get a lot more users working with it.
Anyway TF is just not willing to give any detail on anything within CL so far. This is just sad. He could have done much better using a real id and holding his head up!
..instead..THIS mess is what we are all in now..in need to decide if we are leaving with about 10% of a partly big and still growing investment..
I think the effort would be worth it and the site would have many users after a while.
Just thinking about that a "demo" site already had so many btc in it. A licensed run site would be able to manage a lot more and get a lot more users working with it.
Anyway TF is just not willing to give any detail on anything within CL so far. This is just sad. He could have done much better using a real id and holding his head up!
..instead..THIS mess is what we are all in now..in need to decide if we are leaving with about 10% of a partly big and still growing investment..
I've read the stories here and feel sorry for anyone who has lost money/BTC.
Anyway....Some quick background on us:
We, and not (TF or coinlender) are part of a company with an "Australian Credit Providers Licence" (allows us to provide credit/LOANS) and we would like to make the following commentary to those affected or otherwise by the coinlender saga.
We believe the coinlender business has/had merit, with albeit inept execution/security floors.
For this reason we wish to speak to you that have lost funds using this system, to get your reactions to our request/proposition, before any formal commitment from our end.
As an Australian company we feel that if we can offer our assistance then we will do so.
So here are the initial thought/requests to consider/debate/chat about.
1. We would like to request to negotiate with TF to purchase coinlender/TF database/website and all intellectual property/domains etc and take over management of the current loans.
2. The cost to us will be $0, in fact we want $50,000 or 100 BTC from TF, to buy it and manage it from TF.
3. The $50,000 will be used to a) setup a company owning the intellectual property and b) issue shares in the new company to be split among both our company and that of you that lost money/BTC, along with some funds towards manegemnt of the current/new loans.
2. TF to work with us for up to say 12 months (at no cost) on an ad hoc basis as needed to benefit the site/business. This will include a shareholding to him at the conclusion of 12 months, if we (collectively) so choose to do so based on his 12 months help.
3. Anyone who has lost funds/BTC will be rewarded by holding shares in the company in some way by using the service again (unsure at this point what that will be, but some form of monetary reward for commitment back to the site. You have to commit, make BTC available to receive shares. (unsure how this will work at this point but just a comment for now)
4. We would keep similar functionality and business concept with some required changes.
5. We are to be provided a complete breakdown by TF as to who has lost what amount so that we can make sure those that have been affected receive a shareholding.
6. Shareholders to receive dividends prorated each year.
Could go on forever, but in essence, we will take the inherent risk associated with buying a website/IP with a tarnished name with the acceptance of terms to the above by TF (we are negotiable) but more importantly it must be acceptable to the majority of you.
This by no means stops any action by you against TF for lost BTC, however we are trying to help you move forward in the meantime with this proposal/idea/concept.
PS: We personally do not believe TF is/was a scammer, however that is a moot point at this stage, the important thing is to find a solution to move forward that can benefit all past users/ new users and Bitcoin.
Happy to take questions/ ideas/ comments by any of you or TF.
Anyway....Some quick background on us:
We, and not (TF or coinlender) are part of a company with an "Australian Credit Providers Licence" (allows us to provide credit/LOANS) and we would like to make the following commentary to those affected or otherwise by the coinlender saga.
We believe the coinlender business has/had merit, with albeit inept execution/security floors.
For this reason we wish to speak to you that have lost funds using this system, to get your reactions to our request/proposition, before any formal commitment from our end.
As an Australian company we feel that if we can offer our assistance then we will do so.
So here are the initial thought/requests to consider/debate/chat about.
1. We would like to request to negotiate with TF to purchase coinlender/TF database/website and all intellectual property/domains etc and take over management of the current loans.
2. The cost to us will be $0, in fact we want $50,000 or 100 BTC from TF, to buy it and manage it from TF.
3. The $50,000 will be used to a) setup a company owning the intellectual property and b) issue shares in the new company to be split among both our company and that of you that lost money/BTC, along with some funds towards manegemnt of the current/new loans.
2. TF to work with us for up to say 12 months (at no cost) on an ad hoc basis as needed to benefit the site/business. This will include a shareholding to him at the conclusion of 12 months, if we (collectively) so choose to do so based on his 12 months help.
3. Anyone who has lost funds/BTC will be rewarded by holding shares in the company in some way by using the service again (unsure at this point what that will be, but some form of monetary reward for commitment back to the site. You have to commit, make BTC available to receive shares. (unsure how this will work at this point but just a comment for now)
4. We would keep similar functionality and business concept with some required changes.
5. We are to be provided a complete breakdown by TF as to who has lost what amount so that we can make sure those that have been affected receive a shareholding.
6. Shareholders to receive dividends prorated each year.
Could go on forever, but in essence, we will take the inherent risk associated with buying a website/IP with a tarnished name with the acceptance of terms to the above by TF (we are negotiable) but more importantly it must be acceptable to the majority of you.
This by no means stops any action by you against TF for lost BTC, however we are trying to help you move forward in the meantime with this proposal/idea/concept.
PS: We personally do not believe TF is/was a scammer, however that is a moot point at this stage, the important thing is to find a solution to move forward that can benefit all past users/ new users and Bitcoin.
Happy to take questions/ ideas/ comments by any of you or TF.
I'll be happy to take up the lawsuit from USA. I have his contact information and have contacted an attorney and an australian private investigator.
I'd be interested in continuing pursuing a lawsuit as well. I'm from the US and had ~116 BTC at coinlenders.I am not in the us but will be in australia soon.
Is there anybody from germany or australia who wants to join me with a lawsuit? I talked to some lawyers already and will be in australia soon to get in personal contact with the australian authorities. PM me
Hey,
I just got registered to write about this topic.
There are about 300 coins sitting in my coinlenders account. I worked very hard for this and these are not only my own coins. This is sad and frustrating and this is a hard time for all of us.
I am just shocked and don't know what to do next.
Inputs was supposed to be so "secure" and still I never choosed to use it. And now we on cl might need to feel the pain of what happened.
I really hope for the best. And did not give up the hope and faith in this working out for the best in the end.
Also I think a sliding scale is not fair if that should be the fact in cl as well. Some people only put a small part of what they have in there. Others put ALL they have in there. There should be the full Pricipal or the same % for everyone be refunded.
Another thing is. Does anybody know how many actual inputs users there were? The numbers here do not measure up at all. So I guess there were many more using it and haveing a small balance in there.
And if cl really had xx,xxx btc running it should not be too much of a loss for each individual account if splitted up.
For the update TF said in about a week I think, which does not mean on monday, or am I missing something. So the e mail update is still in time..?!
Thank you so much for putting this together..I still don't know what to think and say to all what is just happening .. Sad
I just got registered to write about this topic.
There are about 300 coins sitting in my coinlenders account. I worked very hard for this and these are not only my own coins. This is sad and frustrating and this is a hard time for all of us.
I am just shocked and don't know what to do next.
Inputs was supposed to be so "secure" and still I never choosed to use it. And now we on cl might need to feel the pain of what happened.
I really hope for the best. And did not give up the hope and faith in this working out for the best in the end.
Also I think a sliding scale is not fair if that should be the fact in cl as well. Some people only put a small part of what they have in there. Others put ALL they have in there. There should be the full Pricipal or the same % for everyone be refunded.
Another thing is. Does anybody know how many actual inputs users there were? The numbers here do not measure up at all. So I guess there were many more using it and haveing a small balance in there.
And if cl really had xx,xxx btc running it should not be too much of a loss for each individual account if splitted up.
For the update TF said in about a week I think, which does not mean on monday, or am I missing something. So the e mail update is still in time..?!
Thank you so much for putting this together..I still don't know what to think and say to all what is just happening .. Sad
So yeah finally I'm registered 
I am following you guys on this forum for about a year now and I'm very thankful for all the know-how I did get so far.
I startet out on btc in spring and spend a lot of time within this fascinating new thing!
So now I finally got to the point where I think I could join some discussions actively.
I think and hope btc is going to be a important part of my life for the next years. So one day I want to say to my children: look at that..thats what I did to support it and thats what made our life much mure fun for now.
Yeah thanks for reading and letting me join this forum!
Cheers to all bitcoiners!
I am following you guys on this forum for about a year now and I'm very thankful for all the know-how I did get so far.
I startet out on btc in spring and spend a lot of time within this fascinating new thing!
So now I finally got to the point where I think I could join some discussions actively.
I think and hope btc is going to be a important part of my life for the next years. So one day I want to say to my children: look at that..thats what I did to support it and thats what made our life much mure fun for now.
Yeah thanks for reading and letting me join this forum!
Cheers to all bitcoiners!