hmmm, all makes sense, i guess i joined at a really shit moment and got screwed by the 600% block, thanks for all the info. Ill stick around and see how it goes. Someone mentioned to me to calm down but Im here asking questions because I am here for the long run so Im going to stick around for the long run.

so am i safe to assume that i am waiting on more payments for this block over the course of the next few blocks mined? the amount of payments depends on the luck, i get that much.

Yeah i guess I'll stick around and see what happens with the next few blocks. since im almost out of the ramp up period, im probably better off not leaving at this point. hopefully we have some good luck. i do still have a feeling that the 5nd and ramp up period and combination of a 600% block screwed me over though and I'm not happy with the outcome but theres no going back.

BTW, thank you to all the people here who were helpful. I'm not satisfied with the outcome but even so... but at least I have a better understanding of how this works now

i see, so its down to my failure to understanding the wording correctly. the average is of the entire 5nd timeframe. so am i correct in saying that I am also just waiting for a few more blocks to hit to get paid the rest of the amount? i understand that its not what I expected but it still seems awfully low. I guess ill wait it out?

https://i.imgur.com/4gn1TZ1.jpg

here is the shift graph that shows that the average is incorrect

problem is, if you look at my actual hashing rate, how was the 35th/s calculated? i can send more pics of the rest of the shares for the rest of the block, the average should have been at least double that. will the other 4 payments over the course of the next few blocks be greater than that first payment? is that just the average hash rate for the 1st 1/5th of the payments?

https://i.imgur.com/9RhwwnW.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/8KUaPSP.jpg

Block   Block UTC   Miner Reward   N Diff   N Range   Pool N Avg   Your %   Your N Diff   Your N Avg   Your BTC
508425   9/Feb 20:11   12.44363511   14.378T   366hr 33m 46s   46.80PHs   0.07%   9.925G   32.30THs   0.00858980

however i pointed about 70th/s at the pool since then, and about 5 days in, increased my hash rate to about 87.

also, thank you for explaing the 5nd thing, that makes a little bit more sense but it still doesn't explain the extremely low payout.
I included the 2nd pic to show the start of my mining and the hashing rate. It wasn't exactly 10 days, it was less but the point remains and it seems off

and all that makes sense if I only had 1 s9. I have average 90th/s and all i got was 0.00086 for 10 days? Wtf?

edit: does nobody see why I'm pissed? This is literally a waste of time on kano if this is all im going to get. Seriously, wtf. Thats why I am asking because this doesn't seem right. What am i not understanding?

I understand this already but my point is being missed. When looking at the shifts, the reward stated was about 0.086. When looking at the payment section, the reward was 10% this amount. I had mined for about 10 days. I hadn't mined since the start of the block but that should be irrelevant because the payout method doesn't base anything on time but rather shares submitted. Has my reward gone missing? Why is there a major difference in the stated reward and the actual payout. Am i not understanding something here? Can someone please actually just explain it instead of telling to the read links that I have already read or copy and pasting something from kanos site?

From what i understand, I had been mining for about 10 days when the block was found but if its a ramp, shouldn't the yield but proportional to the time spent on the ramp. I received 10% of my shares. Does this mean kano stole 90% of my hashing power's yield? 0.08 btc is not an insignificant amount and this is 10 days of mining that i could have been getting paid elsewhere to do. Also, although it has a ramp down, there is no point in that because if you leave the pool, why would you earn anything if you didn't hash anything. This concept on the surface only seems to be a deterrent for people to bounce back and forth between pools but is ultimately just a costly deterrent for the typical user. A lot can be earned in 13 days and I spend a lot on electricity so this ultimately cost me a lot of my profitability because now, a good portion of time must be spent to make up for the lost resources in the days past that were spent on not earning anything while wasting electricity.

I wasn't sure by what it meant ramp up. So essentially pay is held until this time frame has passed?

Whats the point of a ramp up period? It says to reduce variance but how does it accomplish that?

You mention that its uncommon to have unpaid shifts but looking at my shift reward, it says 0.08655 and going into my payments after the block matured, i received 10% of what was rewarded at 0.0085898. I am also not even sure if that was the shift that was paid. In my payments, that amount appeared before the block matured but payment was only sent out after the block matured however the reward information tells me that I only had about 40% my actual hashing. Someone please tell what to do. I have been thwarted.