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I say it is more of users fault than developers. For example, btc-e looked always very shady and unprofessional to me, compared to other exchanges. Bitcoinica was advertised as developed by 17-year-old.
I think it is great, that any kid can code a bitcoin application if he/she wants - no barriers to entry to the market. It is users responsibility to decide if they want to trust there services.
I think it is great, that any kid can code a bitcoin application if he/she wants - no barriers to entry to the market. It is users responsibility to decide if they want to trust there services.
Hm.. great? Sort of I guess, I do get your point. Your most poignant point, however, is that it is 100% users' fault that they get taken by shitty exchanges. I just wish people were a little more aggressive about calling a spade a spade with regard to shit exchanges. Really people are very upfront here about that but nobody listens. I guess my point is, I wish idiots didn't code exchanges but you're absolutely correct that it's the users' fault for falling for seedy, shitty, obviously crappy exchanges. Nobody can stop a savvy 10 year old kid from coding an exchange and advertising it and having suckers fall for it.
Stop the retardation, people, seriously.
You're coding a fucking financial application with no background in security? Prepare to have the shit hacked out of you. It's that simple.
I thought this guy(gal?) makes the most sense.You're coding a fucking financial application with no background in security? Prepare to have the shit hacked out of you. It's that simple.
i have met some good friends that are better educated on hacking then those that go to universities(nothing against the integrity of universities per se). I think its mostly due to there is the "unknowing" of certain problems and angles to hack at, so they learn about a systems vulnerabilities at all angles instead of a teacher or book lecturing a long list of ways (that tend to not burn into the memory) with the home-grown security skills you get the constant hands on learning and desensitisation of failure and patience on your belt. Of course just my view point and experience.
I believe NRF stated it the most politely and professionally tbh, if you're going to reference anyone reference that poster. I'm on a bit of a tirade this evening
Pretty well known that he's a student in Australia. Read some shit before you post. That's not to say he's not likely a pathological liar and thief (really don't know personally but his stories are pretty out there) but the signal to noise ratio around here is lousy enough as it is.
I have been reading quite a bit and I hadn't heard about the Australia thing until just now. And I can sort of understand the 'Ryan' thing, sometimes foreigners take up english names. But yea. I just felt like commenting on the fact that he bought up all the ad slots at an astronautical price like he's a baller and the auction thread is locked. Gotcha, I'm sorry, I am truly being a bit abrasive this evening but it did seem a well known fact to me from following the zillion threads relating to him. Consider this an official apology for being a dick though.
Cheers
But how will any one get a integrity in financial security if they don't make financial applications?
They could do it the way I did it, go to university, get a degree and then work in the industry for 20 years while keeping up to date, gaining certification's attending conferences, going on vendor & paid seminars.
There is no short cuts to becoming competent unfortunately.
This man speaks the truth. To anyone who can sort of hack up some scripts and figure out the bitcoind api and decides to create an exchange, I have merely this to say:
Fuck you.
Stop the retardation, people, seriously.
You're coding a fucking financial application with no background in security? Prepare to have the shit hacked out of you. It's that simple.
You're coding a fucking financial application with no background in security? Prepare to have the shit hacked out of you. It's that simple.
Here's an idea:
If you don't have an actual security background with financial applications, don't code a fucking exchange.
I know that's a bit mindblowing, but think about it mr "learn ruby/python/php/node/perl (hey a guy can dream that kids are still into perl) in 24 hrs. book" guy.
But how will any one get a integrity in financial security if they don't make financial applications?If you don't have an actual security background with financial applications, don't code a fucking exchange.
I know that's a bit mindblowing, but think about it mr "learn ruby/python/php/node/perl (hey a guy can dream that kids are still into perl) in 24 hrs. book" guy.
I like this kind of positive outlook on life. I've been in a similar situation - you see, last year I was recklesly playing with a chainsaw and hacked off my leg.
The upside? That's one less part of my body I can injure in the future!
The upside? That's one less part of my body I can injure in the future!
JeffK, I like the cut of your jib. However a more apt metaphor to OPs point would be: last year I watched my neighbor recklessly play with a chainsaw and hack his leg off. The upside? I know not to play with a chainsaw recklessly (and I'm now sleeping with my neighbor's wife)!
Speaking of jibs, yours isn't so shabby.
Here's an idea:
If you don't have an actual security background with financial applications, don't code a fucking exchange.
I know that's a bit mindblowing, but think about it mr "learn ruby/python/php/node/perl (hey a guy can dream that kids are still into perl) in 24 hrs. book" guy.
If you don't have an actual security background with financial applications, don't code a fucking exchange.
I know that's a bit mindblowing, but think about it mr "learn ruby/python/php/node/perl (hey a guy can dream that kids are still into perl) in 24 hrs. book" guy.
It's not just him, whether real or not! It's the ones pulling the strings and pressing the buttons that's got me all tearing eyed. Once Bitcoinica is out of the picture, the operators of said overseer will still be here, hawkin' a new Bitcoin thingy. That's the important part that I'm tryin' to relay.
I can believe all the named Bitcoiners who've have/had other domains using different names and addresses that don't even exist on any map on Earth. And so much of all this stems from the domain industry and the SEO gurus, along with at least one marketing guru I'll know for years.
~Bruno~
I can believe all the named Bitcoiners who've have/had other domains using different names and addresses that don't even exist on any map on Earth. And so much of all this stems from the domain industry and the SEO gurus, along with at least one marketing guru I'll know for years.
~Bruno~
Bruno, for once, I really have to ask you: wtf are you actually talking about? Stop adding to the noise. I fear you're becoming unhinged. You have some useful things to add on occasion, but this is not one of those occasions.
Or learn to code securely.
Nah, keep putting funds you can't afford to lose in a site coded in 4 days by a 17 year old. Totally solid business proposition.
Ok I realize this is totally tasteless. But I'm going to express my thoughts with a picture (it is worth 1000 words btw):
Also, I find it hilarious that this is a rule of his service "Unfortunately, we do not allow nor encourage our customers to enable WHOIS privacy." yet he uses email addresses like stevejobs804@gmail.com or whatever to try and hide his identity.
BTW: what does "Zhou Tong: A.k.a. Ryan" mean on your website https://www.zhoutong.com/ ? Living in Melbourne now? Old news? I duno.
I know "innocent until proven guilty" and I never lost a single bitpenny on his bitcoinica website so I have no reason to complain, but it aggravates me to see him among us like it never happened.
Also, I find it hilarious that this is a rule of his service "Unfortunately, we do not allow nor encourage our customers to enable WHOIS privacy." yet he uses email addresses like stevejobs804@gmail.com or whatever to try and hide his identity.
BTW: what does "Zhou Tong: A.k.a. Ryan" mean on your website https://www.zhoutong.com/ ? Living in Melbourne now? Old news? I duno.
I know "innocent until proven guilty" and I never lost a single bitpenny on his bitcoinica website so I have no reason to complain, but it aggravates me to see him among us like it never happened.
Pretty well known that he's a student in Australia. Read some shit before you post. That's not to say he's not likely a pathological liar and thief (really don't know personally but his stories are pretty out there) but the signal to noise ratio around here is lousy enough as it is.
Yup,
Bitcoin itself is just dandy and you bring up some good points. If it wasn't worth stealing, well, nobody would steal it All of the hacks so far have involved severe retardation on the part of the hackees. Survival of the fittest and all...
Bitcoin itself is just dandy and you bring up some good points. If it wasn't worth stealing, well, nobody would steal it
All of the hacks so far have involved severe retardation on the part of the hackees. Survival of the fittest and all...i don't know about severe retardation of the hackees but it seems like the lesson is being taught over and over to keep your btc in your wallet. I deserve to lose the 3.5 btc bc i should have known better. That was the first thing i thought when i saw the exchange go crazy, if i deposit coins i will lose them. But of course there's this platinum coin i've been coveting lately and if could sell 3 btc @ 55 each then i have it. This is called being a mark. All grifters rely on the weakness of greed.
Well, to be fair, losing 3.5 btc probably didn't break you and was an easily calculated risk. That's kind of a "why the hell not" amount. That's not really what I'm talking about here. You sound like you knew the risk and didn't risk anything big. I don't see any need for chastising there
i agree (although i'm still pissed about probably losing 3.5 btc but whatever). Although it really does suck that we seem to be plagued with thieves it does show that overall the currency is valuable and has a future. Its the same as when the trolls started showing up on sealswithclubs.eu lobby. They annoyed the crap out of everyone but my point was they are a sign of growth. Of course a thief is much worse than a troll and what happened on btc-e today is awful and my heart goes out to ppl who were burned for more serious amounts of money. Same way with the bitcoinica fiasco, it really sucks that ppl have the capacity to stoop so low. But big picture is that btc gets stronger.
Both bitcoinica and btc-e are (were) financial sites and on the surface looked sketchy as hell. Go figure, there were holes in both. Anyone who is severely distressed by losses from either wasn't cautious and placed funds they couldn't lose in something that looked fucking crummy with a cursory examination. Survival of the fittest refers to those who put significant sums they couldn't afford to lose in either of these as well.
Get in/get out with your funds as quickly as you can and don't ever place more than you can afford to lose in some cheeseball btc exchange. That goes for *all* of them, there isn't a single one that's not cheesy as fuck yet.
Use your brains people. At this point, the people losing funds deserve it.
Yup,
Bitcoin itself is just dandy and you bring up some good points. If it wasn't worth stealing, well, nobody would steal it All of the hacks so far have involved severe retardation on the part of the hackees. Survival of the fittest and all...
Bitcoin itself is just dandy and you bring up some good points. If it wasn't worth stealing, well, nobody would steal it
All of the hacks so far have involved severe retardation on the part of the hackees. Survival of the fittest and all...I heard they give the BEST felatio and only receive backdoor wise 
They'll bite your schlong off and not pay you for services rendered though, believe me, I know.
Confirmed by site owner as a hack so I'm re-opening.
Whaaa??? A bitcoin operation was hacked???!!!??? The currency of the future!
Nothing wrong with the currency itself
Just a bunch of fucking amateurs coding exchanges. Who thought BTC-E looked remotely reputable in the first place? I'm still shocked at the volume there. Hm... random russian exchange, looks legit...I believe so. He handled this matter very professionally and I'm going to continue recovering the fiat money from the hackers.
Zhou,
Since the Intersango team is actively blocking the recovery process, can we convince you to take care of the claims process as you originally offered?
You can calculate everything, and submit the information to Tihan / Patrick Murck for verification and actual payout.
I can do that, provided anyone from Bitcoinica can send me the data (claims platform isn't available any more) and also the written authorization. With the authorization the fund holding parties can get the frozen funds from Mt. Gox as well.
Also I suggest you to arrange this with Patrick Murck because handling claims may have serious legal implications.
This authorization will never happen!
We can, however, speed things by clearing up, who has legal authority to manage the funds at Bitcoinica, BEFORE Patrick releases the funds to them. I assume this to be legally required anyway. When we know that, the only thing missing is the database. Zhou? If you or your "friend" returned the funds, how about the database? If Consultancy has the authority and the database, things could be (optimistically) over in a week or two!
What makes you think bitcoin consultancy magically has the database now? They've stated they don't have it. You people will *never* see your money.
Sorry, my interest in this whole bitcoinica shitstorm waned a few weeks ago. Will somebody tl;dr what's been going on lately for me? Or even more to the point, just answer whether the likelihood of me getting my bitcoins back has gone up or down given the events of the past week.
The likelihood hasn't changed one iota. Just a bunch of fanciful stories from zhou tong.