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Re: 8GB MSI Radeon RX 570 ARMOR 8G OC // Too much watt usage - not enough hash
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shynepapin
on 14/06/2018, 04:53:54 UTC
I will like to second the fact that this cards are shit, the MSI ARMOR's. Their performance vary across the board and I know this because I've been mining with 21 of this, 7 per rig, all with different memory and batch production dates. I can't remember when last I put the second rig on, I think the production batch does matter as the quality of chips would definitely depict the performance of the card. Anyone of them could start crashing the rig randomly, I've tried all I can at this point, but will soon get back to the rig that's not running.

They second rig runs, but would but as soon as you have an overclock and undervaluing that works with mining ETH without any issues, the moment you try to mine something else, you gotta find what works with that coin you want to mine.

Other then other hand, I have the ASUS STRIX ROG RX 570's too, the rigs never shuts down and all cards give the same hashrates, give or take .500mhz max different. All doing 29 even with undervolt. So, definitely MSI cards are shit regardless of the memory chip, it's just based on pure luck and or the production batch.
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Re: Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread!
by
shynepapin
on 04/04/2018, 11:58:27 UTC
⭐ Merited by Moondoggie (2)
Well on better news, i just finished my first 7 days with my latest bot addition to add to my other 3 bots i currently run... some damn good results for 7 days, i installed it on my Raspberry Pi and just left it alone with 0.25btc to trade with for 7 days...
7 days of trading...
68 trades...
0.044btc profit
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That image is super small. How much trading commission did you pay in total? I used to write algo trading in stock markets.

In stock market, buying 500 shares of a $100 stock ($50k) costs like $5 comission. In crypto it costs $125... and another $125 to exit the position. Huge negative edge and spreads are large in crypto too.

With the coin markets now so volatile ... its actually perfect for bots to roam free because the spread its extraordinary big.

Storx -- why don't you clone 100 of those Raspberry Pis and let the army run riot ?  Grin

Afternotes:
I can fund a few of them Pis seeding/capital BTCs and we can share the profits  Grin

This is actually a double edge subject for me, i have always been into bots... i have never lost a lot of money with them, usually the first 15 or 30 days of owning the bots i typically make my cost of buying the bot back along with a little extra, but it seems to always fall on its face or profits drop to a sludging crawl after that. I swear these companies somehow use the fact you have to communicate with thier servers to verify product key for the bot to continue to function, that they are implementing some sort of scale back on how the bot functions after the honeymoon period of getting your initial investment back...

So my plan is to continue to test this bot, i have spent countless hours studying this one before purchase and doing technical analyst on all the pairs its trading to set custom settings for each single pair it uses that i hope this one stays on track after the honeymoon period, in a few days ill have what i payed to purchase it all back in return, so we will see if the profits keep rolling in.

In regards to running a bunch of them, the issue with that is your only allowed to run so much traffic on an exchange before they ban your account from trading, its happened in the past.. so i can only do so much, so the real way of doing it would be to run the bot on multiple exchanges, but the issues with that is fees and volume of traffic are the 2 biggest hurdles, currently i have bots running on all 4 of the top volume exchanges, so im kinda tapped out at the moment and running multiple bots on the same exchange account just confuses the heck out of them.

If this one continues to pan out like its been i plan to add a few BTC to the account and up its trade amounts per trade over time, just right now im testing the waters and not trying to jump the gun, bots can make you money and they can loose it just as quick. I have test 13 different bots over the past 2 years and so far only 3 of them were stable enough to trust with actual money i am willing to trade with, other bots ive bought they run so random and unstable that you cant trust them or once you load them up with more than a few pairs to trade they get so confused and slow to respond that they just become useless at trading. That is what happen to me with gunbot, its turned into my direct mining conversion bot now, stupid bot does well with like 1-3 pairs, but anything above that the code over time starts logging errors and misses trades, then you get stuck with bags of drowning assets.. just got to bipolar for me to deal with, so now all it does is run 24/7 on cryptopia and bittrex auto exchanging everything i dump into those wallets into btc through its panic sell mode... basically turning it into my own autoexchanging mining pool in a way...

Its done ok today, managed 0.00782325btc ($55) of profit in the past few hours trading small amounts, think ima bump up the trade amount a little after this post
https://farm1.staticflickr.com/878/26256966707_8bd1eeabdc_z_d.jpg

@Storx, Those results are impressive, I also run the bot as well but on the ETH. The way to go is the per pair setting based on TA and trading limited pairs. Just started using the bot some days ago not up to a week. As regards to the honeymoon period, I think that can only happen if this bot was actually connecting to a server but in PT's case it connects only to your exchange using your API's, hence why there are some many extra add-on's developed by others being sold. There's an update, the V2 coming soon which takes away the need for some add-on but one I will ask you to look into is PTMagic, which gives you the ability to change settings based on market conditions and changes, which is the biggest drawback of this bot.

I run on raspberry pi too, works perfecting and chilling with the miners. You said you run 3, that's 3 licenses according to you use case, 3 exchanges because you can run 1 license twice on each exchange. And I'll like to ask if you run all 3 on 1 raspberrypi? Looking for a way to remove all unnecessary files on the Pi.

I plan on staying away from V2 as long as they can not stop the functionality of of V1.26, because V2 stop owners license but offers subscription license and there's also talks of it not being self-hosted and installed anymore, meaning it will actually need to connect to a server they own and run, which leaves room for potential vulnerability, which could lead to stolen api's. But, I understand the need to control usage and put limits which in turn will lead to more profit. I might grab another license soon just for keeps sake and leave room to expand from one exchange to more.

@citronick You can pay fees using the exchange crypto, gives you 50% off the trade fees and for spread, you can control that within the bit using the max spread percentage and buy minimum volume to control low cap coins, and minimum buy price to stay away from p&d coins.

Don't wanna derail the thread, sorry if I did @philipma1957.
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Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v11.5 (Windows/Linux)
by
shynepapin
on 27/03/2018, 02:39:05 UTC
Same issue with me 2 of my rigs since v11.1. Found no resolution as some of the recommendation suggested it's due to rig instability but I've never had such issues before, this is on RX570 armor, brought them down to stock roms, also tried stock rims with just timing changes, would be lucky to get 2 days of stable running.
 


Exact same problem here....  Completely befuddled???

Hello Guys,

I have several rigs and I'm getting similar errors on most of the. Sometimes they restart, sometimes they simply hang and need to restart them manually.

Any tips?


Code:
13:33:03:419 1984 watchdog - thread 15 (gpu7), hb time 500
13:33:06:419 1e90 buf: {"id":0,"jsonrpc":"2.0","result":["0x07bbac4cfde74aee05eeabf4c393517fc8c272ec99c9cb25f044c88aeb8a62a9","0x3c08da512cf85dc7dd15483f1ebf529b55eb2c4ebc2182a808eebe109eab0e5c","0x0112e0be826d694b2e62d01511f12a6061fbaec8bc02357593e70e52ba","0x5140b5"]}

13:33:06:419 1e90 ETH: 03/26/18-13:33:06 - New job from eu1.ethermine.org:4444
13:33:06:419 1e90 target: 0x0000000112e0be82 (diff: 4000MH), epoch 177(2.38GB)
13:33:06:419 1e90 ETH - Total Speed: 254.834 Mh/s, Total Shares: 546, Rejected: 0, Time: 02:22
13:33:06:419 1e90 ETH: GPU0 31.831 Mh/s, GPU1 31.888 Mh/s, GPU2 31.904 Mh/s, GPU3 31.585 Mh/s, GPU4 31.909 Mh/s, GPU5 31.903 Mh/s, GPU6 31.911 Mh/s, GPU7 31.904 Mh/s
13:33:08:982 1e90 ETH: checking pool connection...
13:33:08:982 1e90 sent: {"worker": "", "jsonrpc": "2.0", "params": [], "id": 3, "method": "eth_getWork"}

13:33:09:013 1e90 buf: {"id":3,"jsonrpc":"2.0","result":["0x07bbac4cfde74aee05eeabf4c393517fc8c272ec99c9cb25f044c88aeb8a62a9","0x3c08da512cf85dc7dd15483f1ebf529b55eb2c4ebc2182a808eebe109eab0e5c","0x0112e0be826d694b2e62d01511f12a6061fbaec8bc02357593e70e52ba","0x5140b5"]}

13:33:18:999 1e90 ETH: checking pool connection...
13:33:18:999 1e90 sent: {"worker": "", "jsonrpc": "2.0", "params": [], "id": 3, "method": "eth_getWork"}

13:33:19:030 1e90 buf: {"id":3,"jsonrpc":"2.0","result":["0x07bbac4cfde74aee05eeabf4c393517fc8c272ec99c9cb25f044c88aeb8a62a9","0x3c08da512cf85dc7dd15483f1ebf529b55eb2c4ebc2182a808eebe109eab0e5c","0x0112e0be826d694b2e62d01511f12a6061fbaec8bc02357593e70e52ba","0x5140b5"]}

13:33:20:608 196c GPU0 t=48C fan=80%, GPU1 t=46C fan=80%, GPU2 t=49C fan=80%, GPU3 t=44C fan=82%, GPU4 t=50C fan=79%, GPU5 t=49C fan=80%, GPU6 t=50C fan=79%, GPU7 t=47C fan=79%
13:33:20:937 176c checked ETH share on CPU, spent 9ms
13:33:20:937 176c sent: {"id":10,"method":"eth_submitWork","params":["0x0f4c22081b1b7612","0x07bbac4cfde74aee05eeabf4c393517fc8c272ec99c9cb25f044c88aeb8a62a9","0x3ff1330d0d7dfbd8a7106f2d6656164f25e0ba7339b9ebe808229b08f2957cbe"]}

13:33:20:937 176c ETH: put share nonce f4c22081b1b7612
13:33:20:952 1e90 ETH: 03/26/18-13:33:20 - SHARE FOUND - (GPU 0)
13:33:20:983 1e90 buf: {"id":10,"jsonrpc":"2.0","result":true}

13:33:20:983 1e90 ETH: Share accepted (47 ms)!

13:33:22:343 1e90 sent: {"id":6,"jsonrpc":"2.0","method":"eth_submitHashrate","params":["0xf306cad", "0x00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000a30ad63b"]}

13:33:22:374 1e90 buf: {"id":6,"jsonrpc":"2.0","result":true}

13:33:29:016 1e90 ETH: checking pool connection...
13:33:29:016 1e90 sent: {"worker": "", "jsonrpc": "2.0", "params": [], "id": 3, "method": "eth_getWork"}

13:33:29:047 1e90 buf: {"id":3,"jsonrpc":"2.0","result":["0x07bbac4cfde74aee05eeabf4c393517fc8c272ec99c9cb25f044c88aeb8a62a9","0x3c08da512cf85dc7dd15483f1ebf529b55eb2c4ebc2182a808eebe109eab0e5c","0x0112e0be826d694b2e62d01511f12a6061fbaec8bc02357593e70e52ba","0x5140b5"]}

13:33:36:235 1984 em hbt: 15, fm hbt: 109,
13:33:36:235 1984 watchdog - thread 0 (gpu0), hb time 562
13:33:36:235 1984 watchdog - thread 1 (gpu0), hb time 265
13:33:36:235 1984 watchdog - thread 2 (gpu1), hb time 94
13:33:36:235 1984 watchdog - thread 3 (gpu1), hb time 390
13:33:36:235 1984 watchdog - thread 4 (gpu2), hb time 94
13:33:36:235 1984 watchdog - thread 5 (gpu2), hb time 390
13:33:36:235 1984 watchdog - thread 6 (gpu3), hb time 109
13:33:36:235 1984 watchdog - thread 7 (gpu3), hb time 406
13:33:36:235 1984 watchdog - thread 8 (gpu4), hb time 390
13:33:36:235 1984 watchdog - thread 9 (gpu4), hb time 94
13:33:36:235 1984 watchdog - thread 10 (gpu5), hb time 94
13:33:36:235 1984 watchdog - thread 11 (gpu5), hb time 390
13:33:36:235 1984 watchdog - thread 12 (gpu6), hb time 390
13:33:36:235 1984 watchdog - thread 13 (gpu6), hb time 94
13:33:36:235 1984 watchdog - thread 14 (gpu7), hb time 94
13:33:36:235 1984 watchdog - thread 15 (gpu7), hb time 390
13:33:39:032 1e90 ETH: checking pool connection...
13:33:39:032 1e90 sent: {"worker": "", "jsonrpc": "2.0", "params": [], "id": 3, "method": "eth_getWork"}

13:33:39:064 1e90 buf: {"id":3,"jsonrpc":"2.0","result":["0x07bbac4cfde74aee05eeabf4c393517fc8c272ec99c9cb25f044c88aeb8a62a9","0x3c08da512cf85dc7dd15483f1ebf529b55eb2c4ebc2182a808eebe109eab0e5c","0x0112e0be826d694b2e62d01511f12a6061fbaec8bc02357593e70e52ba","0x5140b5"]}

13:33:42:361 1e90 sent: {"id":6,"jsonrpc":"2.0","method":"eth_submitHashrate","params":["0xf300a98", "0x00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000a30ad63b"]}

13:33:42:392 1e90 buf: {"id":6,"jsonrpc":"2.0","result":true}

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Re: [ANN] Social Wallet Powered By WIRE [POS/MN] [Platform Complete][USA Util TKN]
by
shynepapin
on 08/03/2018, 05:55:03 UTC
Love this project, very specific in terms of goals and the purpose it's trying to achieve. But, without any proposition on how masternode are going to be rewarded, 35,000 Wire for a masternode seems to be on the high side. Buying into ICO right now and would be joining in on bounties as well.
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Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v11.0 (Windows/Linux)
by
shynepapin
on 27/02/2018, 15:29:28 UTC
Anyone here ever get Claymore EthDcrMiner64.exe stop working prompt on Windows 10? In the log, here's the last line of text before the crash. I don't know where I keep getting Claymore Miner having some kind of issue with GPU6, here's another log text below, the last 4 lines before a previous crash, this one crash actually was a full system crash not just the EthDCRMiner64.exe crashing.

Lucky for me, batch file executes after system restart but with just the EthDCRMiner64.exe, which I can't have happening because now I can trust my rig running atleast for 6 hours straight, this crashes happen time we get to Dev-Fee mining. I've got allcoins 1 and allpools 1 in my batch file, tried allcoins-1 too same thing.

I have also been getting prompts from Claymore miner V11 saying GPU6 got invalid share, make sure you did not overclock it too much, but my mem shift is 1900, without error and this I'm using to make claymore miner stable, HWInfo64 shows no single error.



try to switch riser on that gpu.
if it is a modified bios, try use another bios.
keep decreasing clockspeed and higher voltage, see if that fixes it.
you can reinstall the drivers with DDU.
use a older version of claymore miner (10.2?) it's pretty stable

if none of above worked, try to solo mine with that gpu, see if it still crashes


Thanks. I did option 3 and 4, dropped the gpu back to stock and reinstalled 17.7.2 dec 19th driver after DDU uninstall, came here to post that and saw you did recommend that as well. Thanks.
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Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v11.0 (Windows/Linux)
by
shynepapin
on 27/02/2018, 11:13:42 UTC
Anyone here ever get Claymore EthDcrMiner64.exe stop working prompt on Windows 10? In the log, here's the last line of text before the crash. I don't know where I keep getting Claymore Miner having some kind of issue with GPU6, here's another log text below, the last 4 lines before a previous crash, this one crash actually was a full system crash not just the EthDCRMiner64.exe crashing.

Lucky for me, batch file executes after system restart but with just the EthDCRMiner64.exe, which I can't have happening because now I can trust my rig running atleast for 6 hours straight, this crashes happen time we get to Dev-Fee mining. I've got allcoins 1 and allpools 1 in my batch file, tried allcoins-1 too same thing.

I have also been getting prompts from Claymore miner V11 saying GPU6 got invalid share, make sure you did not overclock it too much, but my mem shift is 1900, without error and this I'm using to make claymore miner stable, HWInfo64 shows no single error.

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04:27:38:706   187c   Setting DAG epoch #172 for GPU6
04:27:38:706   187c   Create GPU buffer for GPU6
04:38:16:443   1e1c   buf overflow: 0 10004
04:38:16:448   1e1c    KC: Connection lost, retry in 20 sec...
04:38:16:443   10e0   buf overflow: 0 12798
04:38:16:453   10e0   ETH: Connection lost, retry in 20 sec.../quote]


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03:57:52:321   1be4   Setting DAG epoch #172 for GPU4 done
03:57:52:321   edc   Setting DAG epoch #172 for GPU0
03:57:57:087   edc   GPU0 DAG creation time - 4330 ms
03:57:57:087   edc   Setting DAG epoch #172 for GPU0 done
03:57:57:087   1a80   Setting DAG epoch #172 for GPU6/quote]
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Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v11.0 (Windows/Linux)
by
shynepapin
on 23/02/2018, 02:42:31 UTC
So, I posted an issue I've been having with Claymore v11, where 2 rigs constantly restarts in 2 hours or less on one rig and on the other I'll be lucky to get 6 hours of uptime when mining ETH forks. I streamlined it down to the second dev fee mining, where the miner repopulates the dag file size on the gpu's even with the allcoin -1 option, put the most critical rig back to mining ETH and it runs 10 to 12 hours before any crash. So, definitely claymore dag issues with ETH forks. I might be still wrong.
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Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v11.0 (Windows/Linux)
by
shynepapin
on 21/02/2018, 06:10:57 UTC


I almost thought I was going to be the only one having this issue but its good to see I'm not the only one. But, one fear is the issue would get swamp with all this pool and verge talk that Claymore might not see it and no suggestions would be made as to how to resolve it. I do have my .bat file in my startup folder so whenever rig crashes and restart I can get back to mining but unfortunately that is not enough to undermine the issue as sometimes rig crashes and restart gets stuck.

Anyway, I'll be working continue on the issue and as soon as I find a stable enough solution, I will share with you, because for me this has been happening for a while and I have always thought it was due to undervolting or overclocking and I have basically  had my 14 GPU's on these 2 rigs back to default and still no improvement.

Will try to reinstall windows 10 entirely soon and hope that helps but can't get to that till probably the weekend.

I presume you are mining ETC ? I ask since you state you use allcoins-1 which is for the forks
If it is ETC then try "-allcoins etc"




Not mining ETC but mining other forks.
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Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v11.0 (Windows/Linux)
by
shynepapin
on 20/02/2018, 22:06:19 UTC
I don't know if anyone is having the same issue as I have with Claymore V11.0. Miner crashes and causes Rig to restart when the next DEV Fee mining starts creating DAG. I use allcoins -1 to help combat this but to no avail, which does create ETH Dag file when claymore miner starts, mines dev fee only then before crashing at next dev fee mining.

I've also tried the -eres 3 option, so memory is allocation for 3 dag file buffers before memory reallocation, still the same problem at the 2 hour mark or less some times, miner crashes with random GPU memory errors. I have reduced my memory clock drastically to figure out what's really causing this, if it's overclocking, but rig runs stable without any memory errors until dev fee mining returns and then rig crashes with any random gpu memory error.

Any help with this would be appreciated as this is a plague on 2 of my RX570 rigs.

I was update to 11 few weeks a go, but same problem only started from today. After Dev fee, speed just drop, and after half hour restart.
Wondering what can be a problem?

I almost thought I was going to be the only one having this issue but its good to see I'm not the only one. But, one fear is the issue would get swamp with all this pool and verge talk that Claymore might not see it and no suggestions would be made as to how to resolve it. I do have my .bat file in my startup folder so whenever rig crashes and restart I can get back to mining but unfortunately that is not enough to undermine the issue as sometimes rig crashes and restart gets stuck.

Anyway, I'll be working continue on the issue and as soon as I find a stable enough solution, I will share with you, because for me this has been happening for a while and I have always thought it was due to undervolting or overclocking and I have basically  had my 14 GPU's on these 2 rigs back to default and still no improvement.

Will try to reinstall windows 10 entirely soon and hope that helps but can't get to that till probably the weekend.
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Re: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v11.0 (Windows/Linux)
by
shynepapin
on 20/02/2018, 19:06:06 UTC
I don't know if anyone is having the same issue as I have with Claymore V11.0. Miner crashes and causes Rig to restart when the next DEV Fee mining starts creating DAG. I use allcoins -1 to help combat this but to no avail, which does create ETH Dag file when claymore miner starts, mines dev fee only then before crashing at next dev fee mining.

I've also tried the -eres 3 option, so memory is allocation for 3 dag file buffers before memory reallocation, still the same problem at the 2 hour mark or less some times, miner crashes with random GPU memory errors. I have reduced my memory clock drastically to figure out what's really causing this, if it's overclocking, but rig runs stable without any memory errors until dev fee mining returns and then rig crashes with any random gpu memory error.

Any help with this would be appreciated as this is a plague on 2 of my RX570 rigs.
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Re: Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread!
by
shynepapin
on 09/02/2018, 01:24:15 UTC

That pdu has 4 jacks each one uses c19 to c20 cables.

Each jack can handle 12 amps . But the master circuit is 24 amps.


If your psu are 240 volt and use c19 to c20 you can do four of them . Each one can pull 1350 watts no issue.



So a eight card 1070 rig set to 120 watts a card will pull 1050 watts. Using 4200.
That is 32 1070 set to 80% tdp.

No extension bar limits you to four psus but if you set to 120 watts you are all good

If you push to 135 watts or 90% for each card

It is 1170 a rig.  That is 4680 watts

Stupid question, In both your previous post, your calculation did target 5400Watts almost and why is that so?

I know with a 30A is derated 24A to avoid overloading the socket, hence why people opt for the 240V to create room for the maximum amount of rigs or GPU's. Please kindly clarify any information I might have misunderstood.

So are you implying that I can't use all the available wattage on the 24A PDU, because on a 30A circuit the 24A PDU is derated already to give room for the 80% max load on the circuit. I may be wrong 100%, I'm just trying to learn about as much as a can when it comes to Mining and its best electrical practices.

On a side note, I found a similar PDU with 6 C19 outlet, where each bank of 2 outlet can support up to 13A. Here's the link for the PDU

https://www.ebay.com/p/HP-Power-Distribution-Unit-Module-24a-Intelligent-Modular-PDU-Contr-572203-001/10011378865?iid=272816280678&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D47301%26meid%3D70b29b8d2f644b6f85250c29274cfaff%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D192343684408%26itm%3D272816280678&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851

My hopes is to find a way to use almost all the wattage I  an get from the 24A 240V and if that would mean going for a PDU that's 30A 240V but derated to 24A as long as let's me use 23.8A, that would be totally cool. I don't have more that one of that 30A 240V in my apartment, so I'll definitely like to leave as less on the table for waste out of the 24A that's the safety limits.

My PSU's are EVGA, I read in your fifth thread that they'll take either 120 or 240. Also, trying to work out how i can fit the HP or Dell Server PSU in a 4u case rather than standard ATX PSU, suggestions are welcome and needed.  
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Re: Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread!
by
shynepapin
on 08/02/2018, 07:59:54 UTC


Okay  You can do 20 1080ti's set to 200 watts of tdp and pull 4000 +say 500 = 4500 watts

my 6 card 1080ti rigs do 1275 watts so 4 go on a good 30 amp  240 volt pdu. and pull about 5200 watts.

the 7898 is 3 phase 208 volt not good.

the 9560 is designed for 120 volt  it has a circuit breaker  I would not try to run 240 volts as I do not know what the circuit breaker is rated for.

try to get this unit


https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-EO4501-Modular-Power-Distribution-Unit-228481-002-24A-200-240VAC/152870314174?


with this


https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-572210-001-Power-Distribution-Unit-PDU-Extension-Bar-Dumb-Stick-5-Outlet-C13/273043986093?



I really appreciate your feedback and guidance always. So I see you talked about the 1080ti's, did you just use them as a reference for capacity to wattage calculation. Though, I know most, if not all of your GPU rigs are now 1080ti waterblock. You run a bigger farm and have been doing this for years.Right now, I'm interested in the best Sol to Wattage ratio and also maximizing my budget. I have only been doing this for 8 months now and everything is paid for with savings so far, so I want to be careful.

With 20 1080ti at 200 watt TDP, that's running at 100% and total 4000watt and 500watt overhead for Mobo, CPU, Risers and other components in a rig, like you said 4500watt which still give me room for another rig that's about 1100watt in total, assuming my calculation is right.

24A x 240V = 5760.

Tried to pick up the Ebay linked products but the actual PDU was gone but search and found the same model, with the extension bar that's still below $100 without considering shipping or Tax. But, I don't think I would be needing an extension, why did you recommend that?

Thank you so much for taking time to respond, very well appreciated.
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Re: Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread!
by
shynepapin
on 07/02/2018, 21:26:12 UTC

maybe  the apc9560 is good for you

I need to go to website and check

Busy  maybe tonight

No problem Sir..., take your time, appreciate the quick feedback already, I just don't want to take any risk with the basic PDU 9560 because I'll have no way of monitoring my usage in wattage.

And since I'm expanding my operations gradually, smaller home farm going in my former office. I'm still sticking with the 4U case and will be sticking them into the 42U, hopefully I can mount at least 8 4U case in there. All 4U case are fitted with 7 GPU's; the scarcity in GPU's have slowed me down as I'm not going to pay over MSRP for them.

Got all my Ethash Algo build done already with RX570s now trying to pick up a lot of Nvidia cards. For Veteran miners, will anyone of you support 8 1060 4U case build over 7 1070's in the same build. I do understand that with the 1070, they are bulkier and the Rosewill L4500 4U case might not fit 7 of those.

To add, I also like to keep about 3/4 to 1/2 inch space between each GPU in the case to allow room for better air circulation, coupled with the 3700rpm 153cfm Delta fans upfront for intake and 1500rpm 82cfm AeroCool Sharkfin fans right behind the GPUs to help exhaust the all the way back, where I left the 2 80mm fans to help exhaust stale hot air that might hover around the CPU.

Any advice with this setup would be appreciate as I'm not familiar with Nvidia cards but being learning a lot from all Philipma's thread. I'm scared I might not be able to fit up to 20 1070's or more on one 30A breaker, which should be 5760 Watts. Hence why I'm looking at the 1060's as because my goal is to get the best Sols/Wattage per rig.
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Re: Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread!
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shynepapin
on 07/02/2018, 19:39:03 UTC
I would like to get some advice from experienced mining farm owners on this. I recently came into possession of 3 PDU's that came with a used 42u server rack I bought from a data center. The models are APC7898 and APC9560, the 7898 is rated for 208V, 35A/~ input and output is 208V and up to 60A, 20A per bank and it's metered and monitored but with a Hubbell CS8365C plug that's rated for 50A.

Is there anyway this is useful for me? I have a 240V 30A electric setup. Also, with the 9560, which is a basic 1U rackmount PDU, that's rated for 120V 24A, I tested with the 240V, it works and was providing 240V, confirmed with my Kill-A-Watt P4400.01 as shown on Philipma1957 on one if his Youtube video. With the APC9560, I would like it metered and so I can monitor is always since it's not rated for 240V originally which is a great risk to take.

I would appreciate any feedback on this and if anyone can share a link to good metered PDU that's not expensive and rack-mountable, will be appreciated. Been stalking Ebay for one for days now and nothing so far.
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Re: Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread!
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shynepapin
on 26/01/2018, 10:14:28 UTC

I have had clients that ran huge grow ops in Bell Air and would run 10 gauge extension cords throughout - I think the lights only pulled like 1200 watts or something each.

I did a couple tours through some of these mansions and I still can't believe or understand how they would get away with gutting these multi million dollar homes. Rent was 25k-30k on some of these homes and they didn't even hire an electrician to wire things...  people amaze me.

Long story short, heavy duty extension cords do work. Probably not the smartest thing to do, but I had these clients for about 8 years doing their financials and they didn't burn down a single house. Luckily.

Only one extension cord that'll bring the 30A 240V connection from the dryer socket adapter to the PDU and it's 10 gauge.
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Re: Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread!
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shynepapin
on 26/01/2018, 07:57:30 UTC

 Should be able to run *5* rigs if they are only pulling 1050 watts each.

 Extension cords to run a miner = VERY BAD idea, even the heavy-duty ones tend to heat up a lot at the connections.


Only one extension cord that'll bring the 30A 240V connection from the dryer socket adapter to the PDU, no other one other than that; and it's a 10/3 gauge wire. I'm keen on safety too, I don't own the property and my insurance covers only my four wall. Thanks for the advice, will monitor the connection once it's set up and gradually put load on it.
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Re: Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread!
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shynepapin
on 25/01/2018, 06:17:30 UTC

First question is, what does the 20Amps derated mean to 30amps PDU's?
 I am looking to see if I can run 4 rigs on a 30amp PDU from my Dryer connection. I live in an apartment and I have no other of changing anything, so I'm sacrificing my washer and dryer, I can do laundromats.


 It depends on the PDU - a few are "continuous rated" in which case they will probably be listed as "24 amp", most are not in which case a 30 amp unit should be derated to that 24 amps.

 The drier circuit is ITSELF probably a 30 amp circuit, in which case you would have to derate to 24 amps continuous usage ANYWAY.

 If your rigs eat 1320 watts "at the wall" or less, you should be fine with 4 of them.
 If your voltage at the outlet is higher than 220 volts, you can go proportionally higher on the wattage per rig safely.



Very well clarified, so you saying I can run 4 rigs if I pull 1320W from the wall, I truly was hoping to run 4 rigs off this one dryer outlet, so I can have run for expansion cos I see my incinerator runs on a 20Amps breaker but only rated for 5.6Amps, thinking of running an extension cord from the other outlet its plugged into.

Each rig running right now pulls 1050 and 980 respectively, still plan on dropping down the power draw on the 1050 one, letting it run because it gives me 204mh/s with 1150/2020 core/mem with 1500 straps and top at 110W, will revisit the rig and see if I can trade 10W on each card that's 70W for 1mh/s, 7 total, will bring the rig down to 197.
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Re: Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread!
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shynepapin
on 25/01/2018, 06:03:08 UTC

First question: On a 30amp pdu with a 30amp breaker you need to keep everything within that 20-24 amps or 80%. Anything more youll have a high chance of overloading the breaker and pdu

Second question:  I am running 23 rx470 cards with 1500 strap mod on a 1050/1800 (core/memory) the cards run around 23-26 mhs mining ether at ethermine.org https://ethermine.org/miners/31C1C0Fec59CEB9cBe6ec474C31C1DC5B66555B6 with that i bring in around .05 ether per day. my monthly power bill for the cards runs in the 220-300$ range mostly depends on outside temps in florida

you can put 24-26 cards on a 30 amp breaker safely
now heat ill be an issue so make sure you have somewhere for the heat to go
its winter right now so its nice but summer is coming...


Though, I am not very familiar with the RX 470 but I know they run 30W less than the 570's in terms of power consumption. I checked your ethermine.org stats, I'm so impressed by the what I see with the results you get with 1050/1800 mod. Your average and current effective are way higher than your reported hashrate, which is affected by the amount of shares you've submitted.

With my two rigs, 390mh/s it's been opposite of that, shares definitely lower than yours and average and current effective are never even close to what I'm reporting https://ethermine.org/miners/f8339952A224A228F2f8C58A5666a8Ff1EDdeBFb Was thinking of trying Nanopool sooner for a week as well to see if there's a difference, not after I ping both US servers at ethermine again. Connected to the US2, which is for the west, I'm in Texas and I don't know if it should be the US1.

Ordered the 10-30P to 6-30R adapter that I'll be using to connect the PDU to the dryer outlet. For heat control, I plan on running a box fan on window to take the hot air out, as my rig rack is just in front of the window, going to be moving that forward a little to create ample space behind cos I almost had a bad ordeal with the rain last weekend, never happened before but good I decided to go check the rigs.

I use the Rosewill L4500 4u case for my rigs with a little modification with a 1200W EVGA PSU and the Delta 3500rpm 153cfm fans up front, some cards in the first rig go up to about 77 degree Fahrenheit and the second never surpasses 74, so I definitely need to work on moving air more.

 
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Re: Happy New Years! Seventh alt coin thread!
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shynepapin
on 24/01/2018, 21:20:06 UTC
⭐ Merited by Last of the V8s (1)
I'm not really sure if this is my first post but I'm so sure this is one of the thread I've actually sat down to read through all of its post and I can't find the perfect word to qualify it, rather than say impressive and encouraging. This thread is all about managing farms both from big or small and the information shared in addition to help offered and suggestions given have really turned up more light in my head. And all I can say to OP...Philipma1957 is that you are awesome and have managed to put together a small community within an actual community for like minded individuals, to all others who have posted and shared valuable information and also gotten detailed responses as well to your questions, I will like to say Thank You as I have taken a lot away from this one thread than the whole internet itself, on mining and having a mining farm mentality.

Though, I don't use the Onda boards or Nvidia graphic cards, but it is on my list as the next 21 cards I'm going for. I want to have an equal competitive mining setup but since my startup budget was just 10k USD, I decided to go for the most cost efficient set up. I started putting funds into mining equipments last year, I did managed to get 21 RX570 4GB cards, 7 of which are the ASUS STRIX OC, which have been flawlessly running not until the latest drivers AMD 17.2.2 and recent versions of Claymore 10.3 and 10.4 had I had issues with it, looking at other mining programs, found PhoenixMiner but it seems it ain't stable yet on some cards or Mobo's but I'm going to give it a test run for a week, hopefully this weekend assuming it's stable and would last that long.

The other 14 RX570 cards are MSI Armor OC 4GB as well, I would encourage anyone who's looking towards buying AMD cards to move away from this guys, I read in this thread as well someone saying they aren't working as other brands of cards they have. It is so true, that the second 7 card rig is not running and every time I try to running it it constantly crashes, and the other rig is running but with error constantly popping up on 2 of the cards. This cards have been frustrating, trying to mine other ETHASH algo other than ETH crashed the rig and some of the card even in compute mode would not do more than 25MH/S, 187MH/S total for 7 RX570 4GB with 980Watts power draw from the wall, I know that's ridiculous by standards. This cards were bought in the batch released November/December and since they were a rushed batch to meet demands at well then, I'm afraid the batch coming out next to meet then recently higher demands would be rushed, but since I would be picking up Nvidia cards, I certainly hope for the best and no MSI, if I have no choice then it would be the GamingX and Titanium ones only.

Here are a few questions for the Vets in here, going to be using my dryer connection for RIGS, finally found a 10-30P to 6-30R Adapter other than on EVSE who after 48hours refunded and cancelled my order, you need to have bought an EVSE product before they'll sell you any other products including adapters.

First question is, what does the 20Amps derated mean to 30amps PDU's?
 I am looking to see if I can run 4 rigs on a 30amp PDU from my Dryer connection. I live in an apartment and I have no other of changing anything, so I'm sacrificing my washer and dryer, I can do laundromats.

Second question would be general, what advice would anyone give as to how I can keep my earnings at the 1/3 ratio in terms of cost of running to profits? What should I look for, what should I aim for and what strategy would be best to use when trying to achieve this.

FYI..my electricity cost $0.13/KwH and also this is what my full time job is now since I started late last year, my goal is to try and aim for Hodling 60% of my earnings and creating a portfolio in different cryptos I have faith in, because when regulations start to hit the crypto world not all of the cryptocurrencies would be here. So apart from Hodling 60%, they rest 40% I want to go back in cost of operation, expansion and my day to day runnings.

Any ideas and advice, reads and suggestions are very much welcomed. Good to have found this thread, would go look for others in the series.