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I'm glad Steamboat has come through with the next leg of our trip. I'll take the refund as offered, and will remove my scam tag when the coin hits my wallet. Thanks SB. (hows that for not too gushy?)
I feel the same. If he refunds asap as promised, it's a done deal for me. Time passes, steam builds, full consequences shall be applied. The sting is there though: a 34% promised refund received today = content disdain.
I'm scanning for the formula in this 200+ page thread for exactly how to count this claim... What formula are you using to compute the amounts? Including hardware kits unseen, shipping cost unused, assembly fees unspent, and maybe margin between paid chip value and that refunded? My figures are for fully assembled.
My notes from looong ago show:
$35 parts per board
$98.5 full assembly labor
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$133.5 full assembly per board, at the quoted refund rate of btc@$126.61 = 1.05441908 BTC full assembly per board?
Plus shipping, in my case $45.95 overnight for 80 chips, or .36292551 BTC?
Does this math jive with others?
I think we should try to all have the same math applied to our claims. Thanks
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Y'all need to make it official on this forum with trust ratings (SB's last login 1/23): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=15737
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Link to SB's promised refunds: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192916.msg3803998#msg3803998
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Found the best summary of the promised refund from SB:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192916.msg3808613#msg3808613
My notes from looong ago show:
$35 parts per board
$98.5 full assembly labor
======
$133.5 full assembly per board, at the quoted refund rate of btc@$126.61 = 1.05441908 BTC full assembly per board?
Plus shipping, in my case $45.95 overnight for 80 chips, or .36292551 BTC?
Does this math jive with others?
I think we should try to all have the same math applied to our claims. Thanks
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Y'all need to make it official on this forum with trust ratings (SB's last login 1/23): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=15737
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Link to SB's promised refunds: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192916.msg3803998#msg3803998
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Found the best summary of the promised refund from SB:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192916.msg3808613#msg3808613
A short trip to the BFL thread(s) should yield plenty of links and information on this situation. Funny enough, all the BS from these group buys and pre-orders has resulted in thousands of people know what the laws are.
Re: help me understand this part of the chart on Bitcoinwisdom
empoweoqwj, or someone else, please explain the cropped portion of flygys image. What is the green and red shaded sections (above and below) in relation to the yellow median line?
Re: Bitcoint-qt wallet removed from windows. What should I do now?
Quote from: steamboat
The refund will include 25% of the assembly costs, and 100% of the shipping and hosting fees, as well as 100% of the assembly fees for those customers that purchased the Fully Assembled unit finish option.
Okay, I'm trying to figure out the numbers on this. Hopefully, SB can chime in with clarification. Let's take a Fully Assembled Unit with Hosting as an example:$ 95.00 Assembly ($35 PCB + $60 PCB Assembly)
$123.50 DIY Kit (so Fan, Heatsink, etc. is $28.50 ($123.50 - $95))
$133.50 Full Unit (assembly of all parts and testing is therefore another $10)
$ 15.00 Hosting Setup
I'm a bit confused as to what are "assembly costs" (refunded at 25%) and "assembly fees" (refunded at 100%). A couple of possibilities:
Scenario 1:
25% of $95.00 (where assembly is defined as the $35 PCB + $60 PCB assembly cost)
25% of $28.50 (fan/heatsink/etc.)
100% of $10.00 (full unit assembly)
100% of $15.00 (hosting setup)
Total $55.875
Scenario 2 (PCB and fan/heatsink costs not included as part of assembly costs, since they are purchased parts):
25% of $60.00 ($60 PCB assembly cost only)
100% of $10.00 (full unit assembly)
100% of $15.00 (hosting setup)
Total $40.00
Scenario 3
Other permutations? Am I making this more complicated than it really is or something?
Quote from: steamboat
While we are not responsible for fluctuations in the exchange rate, we have chosen to lock the rate to that of Sept. 11th, the day we announced we would be accepting assembly refund requests, in order to attempt to help ease the BTC losses of our customers. The exchange rate will be $126.61 per BTC, based on the price history of Coinbase.
If I understand this correctly, this is indeed epic. Using numbers above:
Scenario 1: $55.875 / $126.61 = 0.441315852 BTC refunded per hosted miner
Scenario 2: $40.00 / $126.61 = 0.315930811 BTC refunded per hosted miner
-dmc
Please, steamboat/unacceptable: A confirmation of which scenario will be honored, or what the case will be. I wonder if scenario 3 might be that $60 assembly cost would be 100% refund. Thank you kindly.
I'm with cardcomm and stringchains. The shipping should be refunded entirely, in BTC. We bent over the barrel to use/support BTC under a tight timeline, and I believe that same commitment to BTC should be honored with 100% shipping refund.
Even though I had my chips refunded, I'm hoping to hear what is available for purchase now that everything is working. Is it looking like a miner can be purchased with instock chips? Patience, I know, patience.
Personally I'd like to see the option to receive assembled boards without asics and no assembly/shipping refund. This is the only way I can see the parts being useful to me - I don't see anyone taking the time to divide the parts up and return them individually.
Once the gen2 chips come out, assembled boards without asics may well have some resale value, hopefully more than the current potential assembly refund offer (which I personally accept as reasonable under the circumstances).
Once the gen2 chips come out, assembled boards without asics may well have some resale value, hopefully more than the current potential assembly refund offer (which I personally accept as reasonable under the circumstances).
This sounds like it would be a good option.