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Re: MultiMiner & MobileMiner: Your Coins. Your Pools. Your way. Win/Mac/Linux/Mobile
Alright I finally made the point to try and switch over my machines to MM v2+ with bfgminer again and it still is such a PITA. I still can't get it to reliably start or restart my workers without failing to start or restarting infinitely due to low hash. This is an issue I have had on all three of my machines no matter how or when I try and use bfgminer. Any ideas or how I can help you nwoolls, I really want to use anything newer than 1.3.5 lol but bfgminer is such a crapshoot with my machines (two are win 7, the other 8.1) I have been forced to stick with the now ancient version of MM.
Edit: As I finally was pissed off enough to write that it automagically started to work and actually mine. The other main issue I am seeing is once it finally decides to mine it works fine. It is only at startup and when switching coins, making MM almost useless in a multi mine perspective that it fails over and over again.
Edit: As I finally was pissed off enough to write that it automagically started to work and actually mine. The other main issue I am seeing is once it finally decides to mine it works fine. It is only at startup and when switching coins, making MM almost useless in a multi mine perspective that it fails over and over again.
Re: [ANN][Pool][Profit-Switch][Optional Auto-Exchange per Coin][Vardiff] ~ Hashcows
I never back pedaled, just stated that they still have failed to follow through with what they proposed weeks ago, but leading up to this they have been doing a good job.
I am sitting here laughing my ass off at how you two handle yourself when you feel accosted. What I love is neither of you can provide one real piece of constructive material other than "troll" or "fuck of you immature bitch" yet say others like me have nothing constructive to say lol. When most of what I have been stating is facts not opinion.
Arguing on the internet is like winning the special Olympics, even if you win your still special. Keep trying to be right I am having a ball over here.
I am sitting here laughing my ass off at how you two handle yourself when you feel accosted. What I love is neither of you can provide one real piece of constructive material other than "troll" or "fuck of you immature bitch" yet say others like me have nothing constructive to say lol. When most of what I have been stating is facts not opinion.
Arguing on the internet is like winning the special Olympics, even if you win your still special. Keep trying to be right I am having a ball over here.
Re: [ANN][Pool][Profit-Switch][Optional Auto-Exchange per Coin][Vardiff] ~ Hashcows
You wouldn't have lost any profits if the pool you admin was secure, not pointing fingers just stating facts. If the pool makes roughly .007 for example BTC per Mhs and you get for example 2% of that per Mhs on a site with 1000 mhs your making good money per day. Its pretty easy to see if you were not making a good profit you wouldn't do period, nobody works for free or for little to no profit no matter how good of person you make yourself out to be.
Secure? How secure is secure? What world are you living in? - some bubble world where everything goes according to plan all the time? Maybe you're too young to appreciate that the world isn't always going to be how you hope it will be? Maybe you're old enough to know better but just want to have a moan?
Whichever it is, you really need to chill out and stop pretending that you're the expert and that everything would have been fine if people had only listened to you - you're such an expert after the fact, aren't you?
Organisations get compromised all the time, even organisations that spend massive amounts on technology and security, so you need to take a reality check, climb out the basement for a minute and if you can't manage to take a walk, get some fresh air and clear your head, then just point your browser here:
http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/14/news/companies/jpmorgan-target-hack/
Haha another butthurt fanboi. I never once said that or portrayed myself as an all knowing expert, you came to that conclusion yourself big guy.
I just stated the fact that the pool/site they run was attacked and as the admins that responsibility lies with them. Every business that has these issues that wants to remake themselves takes responsibility for what they run and follow through with what they claim.
I also never once said someone should have listened to me? Where did you read that as I am sure its a good read that I missed somewhere.
As a business owner myself I find I sort of insulting that this takes a back seat to life. If this was my site my family holiday plans would have been cancelled along with all of my other plans until I fixed my business that makes me money everyday it runs and has customers (miners). To me and many others responsibility doesn't end at a certain time of day or with certain days of the year.
Using your own words that you put so eloquently, once you grow up and move out of your mom's basement I'm sure you'll learn what responsibility means :-).
It's too bad things aren't going as you'd like them to go. So what do you do 'as a business owner? - you complain and moan and pretend that this wouldn't have happened on your watch. Really? That's simply hypothetical, isn't it? It's all very well to complain and claim that 'as a business owner' blah blah blah, cancelled holiday blah blah blah talking out your arse.
If you're that angry about it, go on, fuck off, take your miners and your self-righteous, know-it-all attitude and piss off. There's plenty of people here who are very happy with the pool and the pool operators given the circumstances of the hack - if you're not, take a hike and quit bitching like a little girl.
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"as a business owner" - muahahahahahahaha, you fucking arsehole, imagine that giving credibility to your argument when you're squealing like a stuffed pig?
Maybe you think that things are going to change just because you jump up and down? Wake up to yourself, you're just a fucking arsehole.
You're the one that's butthurt, aren't you? Time for you to cry and moan a little more... life is so unjust... "as a business owner", hahahahaha!!!!!! What a lifenoob.
I couldn't have proved your ignorance or lack of responsibility any better than you showed the world here yourself haha.
Again all I stated were facts and what responsible business owners would do in this situation. Nearmiss and atriz have done a good job so far but are failing to follow through with many things that help put peoples mind at ease that they laid out weeks ago. I continue to keep an eye on this for the sake of seeing if they do follow through with what they said.
Watching you get this emotional over this does bring a smile to my face so thanks for that ;-). Keep being manic it really helps build your cause and gives me a chuckle every time I read yours and catswold's butthurt posts.
Edit: I love how people think a business that earns money is extra curricular, once you graduate high school you'll realize there is a difference.
Re: [ANN][Pool][Profit-Switch][Optional Auto-Exchange per Coin][Vardiff] ~ Hashcows
You wouldn't have lost any profits if the pool you admin was secure, not pointing fingers just stating facts. If the pool makes roughly .007 for example BTC per Mhs and you get for example 2% of that per Mhs on a site with 1000 mhs your making good money per day. Its pretty easy to see if you were not making a good profit you wouldn't do period, nobody works for free or for little to no profit no matter how good of person you make yourself out to be.
Secure? How secure is secure? What world are you living in? - some bubble world where everything goes according to plan all the time? Maybe you're too young to appreciate that the world isn't always going to be how you hope it will be? Maybe you're old enough to know better but just want to have a moan?
Whichever it is, you really need to chill out and stop pretending that you're the expert and that everything would have been fine if people had only listened to you - you're such an expert after the fact, aren't you?
Organisations get compromised all the time, even organisations that spend massive amounts on technology and security, so you need to take a reality check, climb out the basement for a minute and if you can't manage to take a walk, get some fresh air and clear your head, then just point your browser here:
http://money.cnn.com/2014/01/14/news/companies/jpmorgan-target-hack/
Haha another butthurt fanboi. I never once said that or portrayed myself as an all knowing expert, you came to that conclusion yourself big guy.
I just stated the fact that the pool/site they run was attacked and as the admins that responsibility lies with them. Every business that has these issues that wants to remake themselves takes responsibility for what they run and follow through with what they claim.
I also never once said someone should have listened to me? Where did you read that as I am sure its a good read that I missed somewhere.
As a business owner myself I find I sort of insulting that this takes a back seat to life. If this was my site my family holiday plans would have been cancelled along with all of my other plans until I fixed my business that makes me money everyday it runs and has customers (miners). To me and many others responsibility doesn't end at a certain time of day or with certain days of the year.
Using your own words that you put so eloquently, once you grow up and move out of your mom's basement I'm sure you'll learn what responsibility means :-).
Re: [ANN][Pool][Profit-Switch][Optional Auto-Exchange per Coin][Vardiff] ~ Hashcows
"We'll give people another day or two, and then re-enable Payout Threshold payments."
Yeah, right. The same message has been there for a week now and threshold payments are still disabled?
"Worker additions or modifications are currently disabled. These will be enabled again very soon."
Yea, right. Same story.
WTF is going on with the pool?
Maybe they should just put up the old site and code that got hacked instead? Seriously, I'd rather have things done right than to have them vulnerable to another SQL injection or whatever.Yeah, right. The same message has been there for a week now and threshold payments are still disabled?
"Worker additions or modifications are currently disabled. These will be enabled again very soon."
Yea, right. Same story.
WTF is going on with the pool?
This site is their business which makes the admins a very good chunk of money. Its pretty sad to keep hearing the same old excuses of not having enough time.
It would be great if you could follow through with what you planned out a month ago. Its not like your not being paid hansomly for running the pool or anything....
What is pretty sad is to think that we make a good chunk of money. I would love to see your logic behind that considering we have given ALL of our profits away to recover lost funds.
Eventually will we make money? Yes we will but we both have full time jobs and have families to support. Any free time we have is devoted to hashcows and we both love what we do here at hashcows but the time spent running and rebuilding the pool from scratch and all the headaches, the pay is no where near what you are thinking.
You wouldn't have lost any profits if the pool you admin was secure, not pointing fingers just stating facts. If the pool makes roughly .007 for example BTC per Mhs and you get for example 2% of that per Mhs on a site with 1000 mhs your making good money per day. Its pretty easy to see if you were not making a good profit you wouldn't do period, nobody works for free or for little to no profit no matter how good of person you make yourself out to be.
Re: [ANN][Pool][Profit-Switch][Optional Auto-Exchange per Coin][Vardiff] ~ Hashcows
"We'll give people another day or two, and then re-enable Payout Threshold payments."
Yeah, right. The same message has been there for a week now and threshold payments are still disabled?
"Worker additions or modifications are currently disabled. These will be enabled again very soon."
Yea, right. Same story.
WTF is going on with the pool?
Maybe they should just put up the old site and code that got hacked instead? Seriously, I'd rather have things done right than to have them vulnerable to another SQL injection or whatever.Yeah, right. The same message has been there for a week now and threshold payments are still disabled?
"Worker additions or modifications are currently disabled. These will be enabled again very soon."
Yea, right. Same story.
WTF is going on with the pool?
This site is their business which makes the admins a very good chunk of money. Its pretty sad to keep hearing the same old excuses of not having enough time.
It would be great if you could follow through with what you planned out a month ago. Its not like your not being paid hansomly for running the pool or anything....
Re: [ANN][Pool][Profit-Switch][Optional Auto-Exchange per Coin][Vardiff] ~ Hashcows
... The way the stolen funds were handled was extraordinary but the way the lack of information and the excuses as to why you don't have time to fix your thousands of dollars a year business are getting old. I hope things get better as a long time supporter but being left in the dark for this long is for the birds and a waste of my money and time.
more drama than a cable tv channel.
is it *so* difficult to leave quietly?
Is it so hard to read another opinion with out being butthurt by your fanboyism? Everybody is entitled to their opinion, nothing else. You'd be wise to learn that.
Re: [ANN][Pool][Profit-Switch][Optional Auto-Exchange per Coin][Vardiff] ~ Hashcows
Been mining here through all of the mess and made a decent profit too. The last three days with 5.7 mhs has given me .067~ BTC. I don't know what happened but if that keeps through the next few days I am going to have to leave. I honestly think there is an error somewhere but with absolutely no info still after weeks of excuses of why there is no time to fix your business, which is exactly what this pool is it is leaving me and obviously many others very disheartened and left wondering if we have been taken for a ride.
I have been mining with nearmiss on his pools for almost a year now and love the fact that he has always given prompt answers and solutions to problems being presented. The way the stolen funds were handled was extraordinary but the way the lack of information and the excuses as to why you don't have time to fix your thousands of dollars a year business are getting old. I hope things get better as a long time supporter but being left in the dark for this long is for the birds and a waste of my money and time.
I have been mining with nearmiss on his pools for almost a year now and love the fact that he has always given prompt answers and solutions to problems being presented. The way the stolen funds were handled was extraordinary but the way the lack of information and the excuses as to why you don't have time to fix your thousands of dollars a year business are getting old. I hope things get better as a long time supporter but being left in the dark for this long is for the birds and a waste of my money and time.
Re: [ANN][Pool][Profit-Switch][Optional Auto-Exchange per Coin][Vardiff] ~ Hashcows
12 hours of mining on 6 MH/s and Current Balance = 0.00340932
Are you kidding?...
10x more just mining any new coin and change it on https://coinedup.com or https://coinex.pw/
Are you kidding?...
10x more just mining any new coin and change it on https://coinedup.com or https://coinex.pw/
You only get paid once a day and only for the coins they have actually traded for you. Any still untraded gets rolled over to tomorrows payment.
Re: [ANN][Pool][Profit-Switch][Optional Auto-Exchange per Coin][Vardiff] ~ Hashcows
I don't quite understand what the "Profitability: 31.161" stat means and my search has failed. can somone explain please or link to explanation?
According to the hashcows profitability formula it is 31.161 times more profitable than BTC.
Re: [ANN][Pool][Profit-Switch][Optional Auto-Exchange per Coin][Vardiff] ~ Hashcows
I am really happy things are working out. I never needed the coins but i would like to at least login to my account and see how my machines have been doing since I haven't stopped mining on hashcows throughout this ordeal. I am sure as soon as you guys can we will be able to login so thanks for the update and cant wait for it all to be up and running 100% again. Great work you guys, much appreciated.
Re: [ANN][Pool][Profit-Switch][Optional Auto-Exchange per Coin][Vardiff] ~ Hashcows
There should be a nice red bolded announcement on website saying that login is temporarily disabled, so we can get rid of this users spamming forum with "omg, I can´t login".
I thinks it's a lot less "Omg I can't log in" vs "Omg why can't I have access to my account to even see what happened". That is truly annoying since some of you obviously still can. I hope the admins fix this soon now that X -mas is over, because I know if there was a major breach like this at my own business X - mas wouldn't matter, my clients finances are very important so I would have spent Xmas at the office fixing this as a business I can't spend even a day down losing my clients trust.
Re: [ANN][Pool][Profit-Switch][Optional Auto-Exchange per Coin][Vardiff] ~ Hashcows
Am I the only one that wants to login and see if I have any coins left, but gets:
Account match found.
Followed by:
Database Failure - Unable to change password
It seems that the new random password gets sent to my email, but it doesn't change it in the database, therefore I cant use my old password and I cant set the new password to login and see if any coins are left.
Wondering if I should continue mining, not knowing what is happening in my account as far as earnings :/
Account match found.
Followed by:
Database Failure - Unable to change password
It seems that the new random password gets sent to my email, but it doesn't change it in the database, therefore I cant use my old password and I cant set the new password to login and see if any coins are left.
Wondering if I should continue mining, not knowing what is happening in my account as far as earnings :/
That's kind if where I'm at. I have and want to continue mining here through these issues as nearmiss has been a great guy but I can't even log in to see "if" I lost something. I never leave much BTC here for just this kind of incident but being locked out is kind of annoying since I can't even see if my headless miners are still mining correctly.
Re: [ANN][Pool][Profit-Switch][Optional Auto-Exchange per Coin][Vardiff] ~ Hashcows
NEWS:
1. Site is currently in lockdown, NO LOGINS or WITHDRAWALS for now.
2. You can continue to mine with Hashcows if you choose, you will be paid.
3. We will not be making any quick, hash decisions, I understand that many of you are upset/angry, but nobody wins if we do not take our time in this matter and look at all avenues. The only thing I can assure you is we are both working on MULTIPLE ends to figure out what happened and how we are going to rectify this.
The community behind hashcows is truly amazing, from the bad times to the good, most of you have stuck by our side, we appreciate all the support you all have shown.
Merry Christmas,
Hashcows Team
Hopefully will have some more updates within the coming days.
1. Site is currently in lockdown, NO LOGINS or WITHDRAWALS for now.
2. You can continue to mine with Hashcows if you choose, you will be paid.
3. We will not be making any quick, hash decisions, I understand that many of you are upset/angry, but nobody wins if we do not take our time in this matter and look at all avenues. The only thing I can assure you is we are both working on MULTIPLE ends to figure out what happened and how we are going to rectify this.
The community behind hashcows is truly amazing, from the bad times to the good, most of you have stuck by our side, we appreciate all the support you all have shown.
Merry Christmas,
Hashcows Team
Hopefully will have some more updates within the coming days.
Thanks for a small update but I hope you have an answer about the lost coins sooner than a few days. I can't even log in to see "if/what" was stolen. At this point the lack of info from admins about what's going on doesn't help out trust in the pool. I can't even find out if my account was hacked.
Re: [ANN][Pool][Profit-Switch][Optional Auto-Exchange per Coin][Vardiff] ~ Hashcows
I just switched to this pool today and my miners keep going back and forth from my backup pool. Is this normal?
Yes, it happens when pool switches to another coin.
If using CGMiner make sure the version is 3.3.1 or earlier (or it will be 5min before it switches back when pool is ready again).
That should be 3.5.0 or earlier. The 5 minute failover switchback was introduced in 3.5.1 to combat DDOS pool recovery behavior and make makes multi coin pool users pull out their hair.
Your right but 3.3.1 seams to be the most stable for scrypt.
3.2.1 has better Hashrates with Lantis' bin scrypt files for me with my 7950s.
Just correcting the failover statement though based on what you said.
Ill have to give 3.2.1 a try. Any place I can find these bin files you speak of? Also what makes those bins give you a higher hashrate versus the ones created by cgminer when you set the parameters yourself? Just curious so I can compare them objectively.
Re: [ANN][Pool][Profit-Switch][Optional Auto-Exchange per Coin][Vardiff] ~ Hashcows
I just switched to this pool today and my miners keep going back and forth from my backup pool. Is this normal?
Yes, it happens when pool switches to another coin.
If using CGMiner make sure the version is 3.3.1 or earlier (or it will be 5min before it switches back when pool is ready again).
That should be 3.5.0 or earlier. The 5 minute failover switchback was introduced in 3.5.1 to combat DDOS pool recovery behavior and make makes multi coin pool users pull out their hair.
Your right but 3.3.1 seams to be the most stable for scrypt.
Re: MultiMiner & MobileMiner: Your Coins. Your Pools. Your way. Win/Mac/Linux/Mobile
I would like to add my 2 cents. I was hesitant to upgrade from 1.3.50 to the newest version that only supports Bfgminer. I have been monitoring the thread to check on other peoples experience. Well last night I decided to give the newest version a try. I have 3 rigs and my personal PC that have a total of 12 MSI 7950 Twin Frozr giving me about 7.5 MH. All I ever mine is scrypt. I installed Version 2.2.2 directly over the top of version 1.3.50. All of my settings were imported to the newest version and all of my cards hash at the exact same rate. Not sure if it matters or not but my scrypt setting for the card have never been in the arguments box under Advanced Backend Strategies, I have always left that blank. My settings are in the coin configuration under Miner Arguments on each coin. On fast coins I use:
-w 256 -v 1 -I 18 -g 1 -l 1 --expiry 5 --scan-time 5 --queue 0 --thread-concurrency 21712
and on slower coins I use:
-w 256 -v 1 -I 20 -g 1 -l 1 --expiry 20 --scan-time 20 --queue 0 --thread-concurrency 21712
I am very happy with the newest version and honestly would have never known that it is using Bfgminer instead of CGMiner. I do have one question though. When I go to Add/Remove columns on the Detail view of each card I cannot get the Rejected column to show up even though it is checked. Is this a known issue?
-w 256 -v 1 -I 18 -g 1 -l 1 --expiry 5 --scan-time 5 --queue 0 --thread-concurrency 21712
and on slower coins I use:
-w 256 -v 1 -I 20 -g 1 -l 1 --expiry 20 --scan-time 20 --queue 0 --thread-concurrency 21712
I am very happy with the newest version and honestly would have never known that it is using Bfgminer instead of CGMiner. I do have one question though. When I go to Add/Remove columns on the Detail view of each card I cannot get the Rejected column to show up even though it is checked. Is this a known issue?
I have a very similar setup to you (10 7950s) and when I get home tonight I am going to delete and uninstall mm and all its versions and start from scratch again with your settings since they are known to be working for you at least and see if I can get this to work. I really love the UI changes and some of the other features added to 2.x so I would love to get this working.
Re: MultiMiner & MobileMiner: Your Coins. Your Pools. Your way. Win/Mac/Linux/Mobile
Ive downloaded v1.4 as i want to use cgminer, bfgminer gives me such low hash rates its rubbish, i use cgminer in guiminer-scrypt and get 10X higher hash rates than bfgminer.
That's the same problem I have been having. The only thing that I can find that's weird is a "T" argument at the end of the command string that Idk what It's for. I really wish I could get it to work but just haven't had the time to dedicate a night to making something work when cgminer works fine.
I have always used CGminer too, and I tried BFGminer today on one rig, as I want to continue using multiminer, but the hash rate was about 40 kh/s less per card with the same settings. I didn't spend much time tweaking, but I reverted back.
Sad to see with so many coming into Scrypt mining now that we're stuck with no more updates. Hoping that the Scrypt fork gets off the ground, wish I still had some programming skills.
Sad to see with so many coming into Scrypt mining now that we're stuck with no more updates. Hoping that the Scrypt fork gets off the ground, wish I still had some programming skills.
Okay folks, I'm calling out atomicchaos, skyhigh2004, and techstorm2 specifically. Please get in touch with me if you get better scrypt performance with cgminer than you do with bfgminer so I can investigate. I'm going to be digging into the scrypt code in bfgminer and I need some sort of lead on the performance difference you guys are seeing.
Each time I've asked for more details on this I've been met with silence. I really would like to get this reproduced and fixed.
I will gladly help you narrow it down nwoolls I just haven't had any free time other than to check this forum once in awhile for the last few weeks. This time of year I'm working 50-55 hrs a week depending on how much snow we have so hopefully soon I can get in touch with you and try and reproduce this.
Re: [ANN][Pool][Profit-Switch][Optional Auto-Exchange per Coin][Vardiff] ~ Hashcows
I heard about this recently and decided to give it a try. The profitability charts looked really nice, for example. Anyway, here's my 24-hour review of Hash Cows vs. Litecoin. I'm going to keep it going for another day, but so far things aren't looking all that good compared to other mining options.
"every time they switch coins, my miners all seem to swap over to my secondary pool for several minutes"
did you use cgminer <= 3.5.0?
if not, you should redo your tests.
Why is that?
because >3.5.0 has a delay of 5 minutes when a pools fails, thus you loose a lot of mining on hashcows, due to coin switches.
earlier versions have a much shorter delay, so are more suited to multicoin pool mining.
Ah ok. Two questions though:
1) Is there maybe a config switch in >3.5.0 to manually set a shorter delay? If yes, would 1 minute be a safe number to set this to?
2) Are you not sacrificing some other possible benefits when not using the latest GPU-scrypt cgminer (3.7.2)?
Thanks!
Anything over 3.3.1 and cgminer starts to get worse for scrypt. You'll get the best hash rate and least amount of disconnection time from it.
Re: MultiMiner & MobileMiner: Your Coins. Your Pools. Your way. Win/Mac/Linux/Mobile
Help
Im just trying to start using this. been usinbg cgminer guiminer-scrypt for months with various rigs, all over 500khash, tried multiminer with bfgminer and only get 15khash per card, pitifully lower than on cgminer.
anyone help with this as id love to start using it, it looks great.
Im just trying to start using this. been usinbg cgminer guiminer-scrypt for months with various rigs, all over 500khash, tried multiminer with bfgminer and only get 15khash per card, pitifully lower than on cgminer.
anyone help with this as id love to start using it, it looks great.
That's the same problem I have been having. The only thing that I can find that's weird is a "T" argument at the end of the command string that Idk what It's for. I really wish I could get it to work but just haven't had the time to dedicate a night to making something work when cgminer works fine.