Im not a scammer. You wanted to hear what was going on with this project and i showed you. I was offered funds to put tech into a coin. The rest of the shit i didnt even know until the ICO was already under way. I should have refunded their damn BTC but it was too late they already had them.

Again - not to detract from the constructive technical discussion, but this view of the world doesn't remotely do justice to what's going on or why. By the time this project starts to deliver significant technical results, those "dumping kiddies" will have been out and back into this coin more times that most of us will have had hot dinners.

They're not dumping because they think the project has no value or no prospective promise. They're dumping because they can and because there were no more buyers at the previous price. That is appropriate market behaviour.

The reason I'm posting this is because I'm sick of "dumpers" getting a bad name. Nobody does anyone any favours by overvaluing an asset. Nor can they be accused of denying the project's technical merits because most of them are probably already back in at a far lower price than the initial offering.

If you want traders to price in future development right from the start then fair enough, but then let the buyers do it rather then the sellers. The IPO attempted to do that except from the selling side which is kind of like trying to push a brick forward with a piece of string.

I managed to grab myself some panic sells @123 which has offset my losses a little bit, but I now need to day trade this coin to death to get anywhere near back to parity. I'm not going to hang around waiting for developers to rescue me and I don't think people in my position deserve to be maligned for it either.

Enjoy the ride wherever it takes us and whether your a holder, dumper or pumper 

That will come and more. To be an "Investor" you need supreme patience and the ability to overlook the short downsides and focus on the future. This scene draws the amateurs and dreamers. Very few "traditional" investors here but, there are some, and we will wait it out and see. Just follow the cardinal rule and you will be fine:

Never, ever invest more than you can stand to loose.

Every experience should teach you something be it good or bad to make you stronger for the next round. Hang in there and take if for what it is, a throw of the dice...

Let me guess, you are looking for an investment to double your investment in one month? Dream on. Those days are over.
From now on only the smart and patience hands will make money.

No more HappyDogCoin, HappyTreeCoin, StupidNameCoin, CheeseCoin, etc...

And who dictates the price? I've invested as much as I'm going to spend here, not a dime more, if the price is the current one is because that is what everyone believes it to be, if you don't then buy up.

This is the party, a huge nerd dreamers wanna be millionaires stuck in a perpetual sausage fest forum where we exchange money for dreams. A giant lottery monopoly fed by anger and fake optimism, and I am here among you all.

Looking good... just woke up... gnna download the new wallet and give it a go... I may even need to stack up more bay....

anyone know when the markets will be up and running??

Yep. That's the spirit 
About Bay I'm afraid that ICO was too expensive, so rising now is not easy.