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As far as i know it isn't a coin at all, but correct me if i'm wrong
It is just SuperNETThere will be the coins inside of SuperNET, but SuperNET itself is not a coin. Technically it is a NXT asset
Sorry if I'm asking stupid questions... but will the SuperNET NXT asset have any utility connected to the actual project itself?
Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA
How about a roadmap (without eta) of features that must be completed first before progressing to next feature. Will you be open sourcing work as you progress given a lot of the solutions are idea's borrowed from open source projects? What is the relevance of smart contracts or Dac's to delivery of previous products such as trustless anon and onemarket?
You need to educate yourself a bit more about what *already exists* in the bitcoin protocol and where this stuff comes from as you are clearly misinformed or are operating with some faulty assumptions.Perhaps you need to educate yourself as to where some of these ideas are derived from (not bitcoin).
Scripts of course are are a basic part of the existing Bitcoin protocol. What I'm seeing them propose here is more of Etherium meets CryptoNote. Neither of which are properties of the current Bitcoin protocol.
Re: [ANN] NeosCoin [NEOS] - with Arbitrush, Multi-Algo, In-wallet trading & More
the price dump,it seems some guys wanna left
The altcoin market is full of people screaming "TAKE MY MONEY FROM ME... I'M A FOOL". This is proof positive.
Re: [ANN] NeosCoin [NEOS] - with Arbitrush, Multi-Algo, In-wallet trading & More
It's nice to see a dev who is pretty much doing everything right. Every misstep and fumble I've seen in a lunch these guys have managed to avoid. That is no small feat. Congratulations on a stellar start that will prove to be a solid foundation to build upon.
Re: [ANN] NeosCoin [NEOS] - with Arbitrush, Multi-Algo, In-wallet trading & More
I don't get it. Before the ICO started all this was known. But, now after the fact it's a big deal? Are people just not able to read or something? If you bought the ICO or anytime after it's all here in the thread. It's not like there was some promises that where broken. In fact the dev has stated they're working to deliver before their own deadline to get the wallet out. What more do you people want? The video footage of the devs last colonoscopy?
Re: [ANN] NeosCoin [NEOS] - with Arbitrush, Multi-Algo, In-wallet trading & More
Yes but we're talking abot Ico Neos. I said what I think. I don't know if this is scam, but selling below Ico is suspicious for me.
new trend in cryptos - Ico. soon there'll be too much icos, too much ico scams.
we'll see if this in one of them
new trend in cryptos - Ico. soon there'll be too much icos, too much ico scams.
we'll see if this in one of them
It's odd, but, given the overwhelming FUD on day one I'm not surprised. People are so paranoid now they'll take a loss at the slightest whiff of trouble. Also just look at the order book depths at any given hour. It take almost nothing to pull a coin down 50% or more.
Re: [ANN] NeosCoin [NEOS] - with Arbitrush, Multi-Algo, In-wallet trading & More
Yep, but this is wild west, too risky without explorer imo.
As if a block explorer is some magic oracle. Give me a break. Every time you download the blockchain to have a functioning wallet you have the whole coins history sitting on your own hard drive locally to look at. Learn some python and do it yourself if you're so worried.
Re: [ANN] NeosCoin [NEOS] - with Arbitrush, Multi-Algo, In-wallet trading & More
AFAIK an ICO is never minded. It's basically a 100% instamine that precedes actual mining used to raise capital through market distribution. If this fails it will mostly be a black eye for Trex.
Re: [ANN] NeosCoin [NEOS] - with Arbitrush, Multi-Algo, In-wallet trading & More
THE WALLET ISN'T OUT YET. Why would anyone care about about a block explorer? So you can bitch about the dev mining the coins?
Hmm.. listen noob, block explorer is Absolute, Bible and only truth of Coin.
Remember AsiaCoin scam?
Dev premined 1000% (lol:) in 1st block and hid in explorer (fake explorer or smth, i don't remeber well), people donate to another expolorer and WOW, so much coins wtf it must be bug LOL
another story with explorer scam? USB coin and lol - postmined few hundreds % haha.
So
Ico is mined?
If Ico, Ipo, (=selling huge premine to be clear) is mined, you must have block explorer. MUST
If coin is not mined yet, so you bought few letters at bittrex page lol, dust.
Wow you're sharp. Again, there is no blockchain yet. It's an ICO. That's the point. You're buying a promise.
Re: [ANN] NeosCoin [NEOS] - with Arbitrush, Multi-Algo, In-wallet trading & More
This is scam? Confirmed or unconfirmed?
Where's block explorer?
If there's no explorer, you all bought dust with promises.
Without working block explorer coin can even not exist lol.
Without bl.expl. dev if he's scammer can mine much more than ico and sell this below ico price.. This would very ugly.
I don't want to scare you but where is fucking block explorer???
Where's block explorer?
If there's no explorer, you all bought dust with promises.
Without working block explorer coin can even not exist lol.
Without bl.expl. dev if he's scammer can mine much more than ico and sell this below ico price.. This would very ugly.
I don't want to scare you but where is fucking block explorer???
THE WALLET ISN'T OUT YET. Why would anyone care about about a block explorer? So you can bitch about the dev mining the coins?
Re: [ANN] NeosCoin [NEOS] - with Arbitrush, Multi-Algo, In-wallet trading & More
Yessir that's correct.
Are any steps taken to help obfuscate the final TX? Example: Bob sends Alice 166.32 NEOS via Arbitrush. Given timing and the unique amount sent. It would be trivial to discover Bob was the origin of the transaction if Alice receives 166.32 NEOS in a single output.
As of right now the only obfuscation would be the timestamp as it purposely doesn't send it right away through to prevent matching up a certain send time/amount with another masked tx's. With PoT enabled it returns the one tx, but what I can do is modify it so that the amount sent is split up into fragments and just return an array of txids.
Regards,
syntaks
I think that would help. Also, if you want to get fancy, I would consider further obfuscation. Like random amounts of uneven divisions sent at slightly differing times from different exit nodes if possible.
Re: [ANN] NeosCoin [NEOS] - with Arbitrush, Multi-Algo, In-wallet trading & More
Looking at the list
http://cryptoasian.com/coin-list/
POD has generally helped the coins that seem to have the most to offer. In other words, it seems to do the most good for the coins that seem to bring the most to the table from the start, before the POD.
http://cryptoasian.com/coin-list/
POD has generally helped the coins that seem to have the most to offer. In other words, it seems to do the most good for the coins that seem to bring the most to the table from the start, before the POD.
POD isn't magic pixie dust. In theory it could be manipulated to some degree. There is no guarantee there isn't another person(s) hiding behind a real life sock puppet dev(s). That could be on their N'th shitcoin. It's nice to see someone trying to do some verification. But, at some point bad eggs will make it through the process.
Re: [ANN] NeosCoin [NEOS] - with Arbitrush, Multi-Algo, In-wallet trading & More
Yessir that's correct.
Are any steps taken to help obfuscate the final TX? Example: Bob sends Alice 166.32 NEOS via Arbitrush. Given timing and the unique amount sent. It would be trivial to discover Bob was the origin of the transaction if Alice receives 166.32 NEOS in a single output.
Re: [ANN] NeosCoin [NEOS] - with Arbitrush, Multi-Algo, In-wallet trading & More
I was curious if we could get any more information about off-the-chain anonymous transactions?
If you would want to send a transaction off-the-chain, wouldn't that mean that you'd already have to have the coins in some storage held by a third party? That is, if I want to send 100 coins from my wallet to account X off-the-chain, then the public ledger would still have me as the owner of those 100 coins, and therefore, I could doublespend my coins. However, if my coins were not held in my wallet, but in a third party storage, then they would be accountable for validating this transaction without the blockchain.
Is the above thinking correct or is there another way to allow off-the-chain transactions?
If you would want to send a transaction off-the-chain, wouldn't that mean that you'd already have to have the coins in some storage held by a third party? That is, if I want to send 100 coins from my wallet to account X off-the-chain, then the public ledger would still have me as the owner of those 100 coins, and therefore, I could doublespend my coins. However, if my coins were not held in my wallet, but in a third party storage, then they would be accountable for validating this transaction without the blockchain.
Is the above thinking correct or is there another way to allow off-the-chain transactions?
Sorry it seems maybe there's some confusion as to how this works so let me try to clear it up a bit. I demonstrated it on the testnet in the youtube video which should give a pretty clear picture as to what I meant if you'd like to check it out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Laq55dRPEKI
Let's use this example address we'll call NnJ13PNQaaSnPkxNlP3Ah3Aj34A You send 100 NEOS to it using the standard send. You visit the block explorer or look up the transaction on the block chain and you see that 100 NEOS was sent to NnJ13PNQaaSnPkxNlP3Ah3Aj34A. Now if you wanted to send another 100 but not show that you sent 100 to NnJ13PNQaaSnPkxNlP3Ah3Aj34A, you use Arbitrush. The coins are sent through the farm, then sent back out to the intended recipient, however on the block chain there's no record of you sending 200 coins to NnJ13PNQaaSnPkxNlP3Ah3Aj34A. NnJ13PNQaaSnPkxNlP3Ah3Aj34A might have 200 coins now, but as far as the block chain is concerned only 100 of those came from you.
It's not opening up a double-spend vulnerability because it's all technically kept on the block chain, but you, the sender are only accounted for as sending 100 to NnJ13PNQaaSnPkxNlP3Ah3Aj34A. The rest came from a random address from the farm.
I hope that cleared it up for you but if not please feel free to let me know where any confusion might be.
Best regards,
syntaks
Who is the "farm"? I have to assume it's a collection of nodes you will manage?
Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA
Look.. we know the repeat offender trolls in this thread are either threatened supporters of other coins or bored weirdos who can't get laid. Best course of action is to just ignore them and **not** engage (especially directly).
Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA
The market is properly reflecting a white paper made with crayons. The floor fell out seconds after the pdf was posted.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX-7BlRc_a0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX-7BlRc_a0
Troll harder man. It's not a whitepaper. Nor did development claim it was a whitepaper. It's a introduction for the non-technical. I assure you all your idiotic posts on this thread have exactly zero influence on anybody with a modicum of intelligence.
It's well done and great for anybody interested in learning more about Cloak, but not savvy in the space.
Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA
All of the above I consider potential Wall Street takeover candidates.
I stopped taking you seriously right there. Well played... oh how this forum is endlessly entertaining.
Re: [ANN] [CLOAK] Cloakcoin | No Premine | X13 | Decentralized Market and PoSA
Looks like uber manipulation is thwarting people away and destroying this coin. And lol to those big holders (darkproton, fearcocka & co.) telling people to hold and #cloakstrong, I bet they are selling their stash to prevent the inevitable loss 
. Well, I couldn't care less now I profited a lot too on the big pump, might as well hold and gamble my remaining stash till the end.
. Well, I couldn't care less now I profited a lot too on the big pump, might as well hold and gamble my remaining stash till the end.I'm holding. I'm not retarded. I assure you you're not some kinda genius because you got out with a profit. Check your ego please.