So yourself coming from academia (a professor or physics researcher in Canada) where you are paid by socialism to do your profession, your vision of how work gets done is we all have a job paid for by the government and there is no proprietary intellectual property any more. This is a Communist delusion and it always ends in megadeath due to economic collapse. The Socialists were in control the Weimar Republic that lead to Hitler's rise. There are so many examples that litter the history of mankind.

Btw, I never advocated that my idea wouldn't be open sourced. I posited that it would be better for an altcoin to implement my idea and then later announce it for peer review when they were very close to launching it, so they would have first mover advantage. Besides there isn't really much need for peer review on the idea, because I am already so expert on anonymity technology that I am the person who should be peer reviewing it.

If I can get some compensation in return for the 4 years of day in and day out technical research effort I have devoted to crypto-currency, then that is capitalism.

We all know that the altcoin arena is a gambler's paradise and that is all that it is. You Monero folks seem to think you are holier than thou, but even your own community is only here because they want to make money from speculation. Please stop with the ideological dogma. Admit reality.

Open source is not Communism, because no one forces anyone to do anything. But viral copy-left free software licenses that forces those who contribute to open source to not be able to create proprietary derivative works, is in fact Communism. It purports to create a world where everything is non-profit. Eric Raymond, Linus Torvalds, and other non-insane people prefer permissive open source licences. I prefer the Unlicense which allows anyone to do what ever they want with my code. They don't even need to attribute me!

Let me give you an example so this isn't all just abstract.

Here is the open source:

https://www.nativescript.org/

Here is the for-profit derivative work by the same people (and that doesn't mean they open source all their server code):

http://www.telerik.com/platform/appbuilder


You are a guy who would say that musicians can't charge money for their downloads. And you advocate illegal decentralized file sharing systems wherein it is impossible to for the copyright holder to have the illegal content removed. You want to create a society of theft, which is precisely what Socialism is.

There is no need to enforce DRM in order to have people pay for songs. I will show you how to do it when I launch JAMBOX, which will be an open sourced decentralized platform. But it won't support having people standup file server nodes on their home Internet connections as a way to subvert copyright law.

You Commies are entirely out-of-touch with where the prosperity is going to come from in the fledging Knowledge Digital Information Age.

I am going to continually kick your ass in the market and in technology, because I have 30 years experience doing that successfully. And because I am a capitalist.

Smooth has affiliated with the wrong crowd. Hopefully he will wise up eventually as he sees that Monero is stuck in the mud and everyone  else is steaming ahead.

Look Ethereum and Dash have both already moved a lot more money through their ecosystems than Monero.

That doesn't mean I endorse concentrated distribution wherein the insiders can manipulate the float/market cap/price nor the preselling of vaporware, and I personally wouldn't do especially the ICO aspect because I think it is very illegal for me to do that because I am an expat US citizen. But that is the reality of the altcoin ecosystem. Everyone is here to gamble. The market gives what is demanded. Period. We can complain until we are blue in the face, but it will not remove the market demand for P&D. Eventually the SEC will crackdown (perhaps this DAO thing) but for now they are letting it run wild. So instead of dogma, it behoves each person to deal with the reality of the situation. Which is what I am doing. I personally am not going to launch an ICO. But if someone wants to pay me for my technical work, then why should I withhold my work from the marketplace.

You guys are so braggart, yet you can't even afford to fund your developers to work full time.

Lately I had recognized that there are individuals such as fluffypony that worked very hard on Monero and that Monero has perhaps the best distribution of any altcoin. So I had become more supportive of Monero, in spite of the fact that some members of the Monero community remain abusive to me. I still have a very bad taste in mouth from the Reddit discussions I had with your condescending jerk cryptographer Shen-noether last year. If your community simply respected others, then they (at least I) could respect you. But you disrespect the work of others. And that really pisses me off.

I do think it is important to inform speculators and the coin developers/controlling entities about the securities laws. I do think virtuall all altcoins are some sort of "mine the speculators" model. But lately I've realized that it is not my job to tell the marketplace it is wrong. The marketplace is what it is. This is nature doing its thing. I would be a Communist if I tried to tell nature it is wrong. The SEC might end up cracking down at some point, and that will be nature doing its thing.

Yes I believe in open source (not free software because nothing is free!) and I believe in creating a profitable corporation in order to fund the open source. This is what Eric Raymond understood and why he targeted his marketing to the Fortune 500 and he revolutionized the open source paradigm from a failure lead by Richard Stallman, to a successful paradigm adopted by mainstream capitalist society and business.

ArticMine, I don't dislike you as a person, but frankly you smoked too much pot up there in Canada.

I have no speculative position in cyrpto-currency.

I have not consulted with anyone else on this technological idea who does have a speculative position on Monero or Dash, other than what I have communicated here to all of you thus all of you with equal opportunity to speculate on what I wrote.

I am not here in CC to play silly games. I don't speculate in CC. I work on technology. That is all I do. Day in an day out.

I had my head deep in creating a new programming language and I stopped suddenly because an idea popped into my head. Then I realized I had a mistake it wasn't fully formed, so I deleted the post I had made about it. Then noobtrader attacked my reputation with his snide quote of a post I deleted within 60 seconds of posting it.

So then later the next day, I thought about it again for a another minute or two, and I realized I could actually make it fully formed and prevent all the trust in the system in terms of making sure that no party can steal funds and that no party can jam the protocol.

So then I realized I had stumbled onto a way to remove the simultaneity requirement (and jamming problem) that plagues CoinJoin. I got excited. I posted about it again here and specifically to take revenge on noobtrader for disrespecting me and being a jerk.

And so what I have received so far is more of the same shit attitude from the Monero community.

Now you guys will learn that I am legit. I have no idea why you think I am not legit. If you even took the time to understand my technical research over the past 3 years, you'd realize I had made major technical insights.

Whatever! Fuck.


Not really. I removed the simultaneity requirement in CoinJoin. Since when has CoinJoin been similar to Cryptonote.

No smooth there is another problem.

Monero has this attitude that they are the shit and every one else is shit. And your community disrespects those who have supported Monero.

I took so much abuse from Shen-noether, iCEBREAKER, and various other members of your community.

Now it is time for payback. Do you really think I would post that I have a technical solution to eliminate the simultaneity in CoinJoin if I don't. Sheesh. You need to teach your community that I am legit. I am really disappointed with your shit community.

So now I am shopping around for someone who can take my technical idea and make it a Monero-killer asap. So I can teach your community a lesson that they deserve.

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No smooth there is another problem.

Monero has this attitude that they are the shit and every one else is shit. And your community disrespects those who have supported Monero.

I took so much abuse from Shen-noether, iCEBREAKER, and various other members of your community.

Now it is time for payback. Do you really think I would post that I have a technical solution to eliminate the simultaneity in CoinJoin if I don't. Sheesh. You need to teach your community that I am legit. I am really disappointed with your shit community.

So now I am shopping around for someone who can take my technical idea and make it a Monero-killer asap. So I can teach your community a lesson that they deserve.

No smooth there is another problem.

Monero has this attitude that they are the shit and every one else is shit. And your community disrespects those who have supported Monero.

I took so much abuse from Shen-noether, iCEBREAKER, and various other members of your community.

Now it is time for payback. Do you really think I would post that I have a technical solution to eliminate the simultaneity in CoinJoin if I don't. Sheesh. You need to teach your community that I am legit. I am really disappointed with your shit community.

So now I am shopping around for someone who can take my technical idea and make it a Monero-killer asap. So I can teach your community a lesson that they deserve.

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MoneroMoooooo and noobwhatever, you may want to read this "Edit":

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.msg14859813#msg14859813

Fuckers.

Monero is a wonderful community of braggart assholes:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.msg14860890#msg14860890

Monero haters might like this:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=753252.msg14860890#msg14860890

What is the Lambda Cube? Dumb ass.

I am not hyping you retard. If you had the ability to even understand what I am writing at the Rust forum, you'd shut your trap.

Bye!

I am out of this retarded thread.

It is because of aholes like you, that I will destroy Monero. Just because you piss me off.

Smooth I never expected anyone here in this thread to pay me anything. I never insinuated that. Reread the past few posts.

I was responding to MoneroMooo's implied demand for proof of my claim. Just because I don't provide proof to him, he feels that makes me fair game for him to make snide remark about me. Fine. Hopefully he will get his proof in terms of a new Dash feature announcement. We'll see. Last year I offered my Zero Knowledge Transactions to BBR (for free!), and zoid never replied. So maybe Dash won't contact me, which will prove they aren't really serious at all.

Everyone back to your regularly scheduled programming. I have work to do and will exit again.

The Communism is attacking someone's reputation when they don't provide you proof for free. Tactics. Cripes, I was just letting you all know I had discovered something. Next time why bother to alert you, when it means I will be attacked for not giving away my work for free.

MoneroMooo doesn't seem to know how to read my thread and learn a little bit about who I am. Does MoneroMooo even know what the Lambda Cube is. He belittles me because he doesn't know my capabilities. Fine. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

I don't see why Monero would want to pay me to fix Dash.

And I don't see why I owe anyone a proof. Everyone is free to ignore my claim.

The personal snide insults crap turns me off. (not from you smooth, but Shen is not a person I would want to collaborate with based on my last interaction with him ... actually I had forgotten about him and this issue reminded me of the very grrrrr feelings I have about him...)

Also why would Monero pay me to provide an idea? First they would want to vet the idea before paying, but then they wouldn't need to pay for the idea.

Monero is pay some measily amounts maybe $1500 or so for many man-hours of work. I have more important priorities than that.

If Dash wanted to pay me something for the idea, and it was worth my time to explain it to them, then we'd have a no hassle deal. Otherwise, I'll just hold it close to my chest and offer it to one of my angel investors who has funded me.

The idea didn't take me very much time (although one could say it is a product of all the vast effort I put into studying). So I don't expect that much. If Dash offers me a reasonable token amount, I'll offer it to them. My angel investor gets it for free (and he is a prolific coder in crypto), because I owe him results which have been slow to come to fruition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b17ggwkR60#t=675 (make sure you listen to 14:15 and learn something about how anti-productive your attitude is)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43baAbAZhFM ("marketing...")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGnbw1QF1e8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69ZyX5sN2NA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bw58LZTuZjA (Linus thinks you are clinically insane)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1b17ggwkR60#t=561

Enjoy your snobbery (just like your xerox copies Shen-noether and Gmaxwell). It won't help you. You only make me hate Monero more when you do that.

I am moving too fast to worry about your need for a proof. You think I care what you think. Why would I? Are you offering me anything. Can you help me create a programming language. Can you help me code a crypto-currency. Will you pay me anything for providing a proof. No.

Monero = Communism.

Actually there is only an activity threshold above which offchain mixing can be just as fast as onchain. Actually to do ring mixing correctly so that rings never can overlap in ways that allow combinatorial unmasking, Monero should require activity, but I was apparently never able to get Shen-Noether to understand this during our Reddit discussions last year (because he is a condescending prick in the same mold as Gregory Maxwell who thinks he is too smart, actually they appear to hobknob together sometimes), so afaik Monero remains "broken" (suboptimal). The advantage of adopting my idea for preventing combinatorial unmasking, is it would also make the block chain entirely prunable, not just compressable (which afaik is what Monero and BBR erroneously label "pruning").

The key breakthrough is to remove the simultaneity requirement (lol, I am the one who fixes Gregory Maxwell's broken CoinJoin in 10 minutes of my spare time while my head is deep in designing a programming language), and on further thought I've decided I want to embarrass noobtrader (to show my appreciation for his disrepect) so I went ahead and I think figured out how to eliminate the simultaneity requirement in CoinJoin! I figured out how to eliminate the short-term trust aspect! Another advantage is it can radically improve the robustness of decentralized exchange as well.

It will reduce the block chain size considerably. I also see how to put a viewkey in it. And the mix anonymity sets can be huge, say 50 or 100 transactions per mix (or more!). The disadvantage is the masternode can see the correlation of inputs to outputs. But just like any mixing method, if mix over and over, the probability of your anonymity set being known to any one party diminishes in probability.

You'd still need stealth addresses to achieve the delinking from the recipient's public key.

Another potential advantage may be that this technique I've just invented gives you IP address obfuscation inherently, which is one of the big weakness of Monero. Monero adds I2P integration to attempt to overcome this weakness.

My apologies to ArticMine. I am rushing so much, that I mistakenly (cross-eyed) attributed the above quoted disrespect to him.

Edit: my discovery for offchain mixing (fixing CoinJoin) to remove the simultaneity requirement, is essentially something like a ring signature, but the signers don't need to include the other signers in their signature. The ring is formed by the masternode. It is quite clever. I don't know why I didn't think of it before! The reason Gmaxwell didn't think of this, is it because it requires the knowledge I did for the fixing the atomic DE protocol of TierNolan. The insight comes from the work I did there.

If I bring my design to fruition, the intent is that it can't be centralized, because the power remains in the hands of the each spender to choose where they sent their unprofitable PoW share. But the bottom line is that Iron Law of Political Economics guarantees that in effect the global elite control the minds of the people, e.g. which wallet software the spenders choose, etc..

You'll never create a protocol that is immune to political economics. Not even the base protocols of the Internet are immune.

But yeah, I'd attempt to give us the best that can be achieved in terms of decentralization.

I am just being honest. I don't want to fool people with ideological bullshit.

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I believe perhaps the global elite will kill off any system which doesn't mandate a viewkey on each mixed transaction, wherein some elected foundation or body is given responsibility for whom has the private key(s) to the viewkey. Better perhaps a multisig viewkey would be best where these would be given to multiple authorities (e.g. each of the major powers or regions national security agencies), and then a quorum of them would have to agree in order to view a transaction.

Thus I think the level of mixing (above 0) is irrelevant.

I just don't believe you snub the global elite and expect to not get your ass wiped in the mud.

I had hoped for an absolute technological immunity, but I studied all the technology deeply and I am very, very confident to tell you that it is impossible. The global elite will remain in control of the Iron Law of Political Economics.

Mass privacy is very important and Monero should stop being delusional and realize how they have to structure their system in order to be accepted.

I guess they might just attack the users and catch them at the on/off ramps and destroy interest in coins that obscure the blockchain from the authorities.

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There will exist no such place. Name one. Just one.

Moreover, the protocol is controlled by the Chinese mining cartel, so all the regulation can be done from China. Your coins can be confiscated China regulates their ASIC mining farms. If Monero scales up, it will also be captured by the Chinese cartel.


The Internet will be regulated. China is the model. They will assume the throne of the financial capital of the world in 2033.

You can waste your time disbelieving (and end up in jail and/or all you wealth confiscated). Meanwhile I will get my ducks aligned so I am congruent with the reality.

There will exist no such place. Name one. Just one.

Moreover, the protocol is controlled by the Chinese mining cartel, so all the regulation can be done from China. Your coins can be confiscated China regulates their ASIC mining farms. If Monero scales up, it will also be captured by the Chinese cartel.


The Internet will be regulated. China is the model. They will assume the throne of the financial capital of the world in 2033.

You can waste your time disbelieving (and end up in jail and/or all you wealth confiscated). Meanwhile I will get my ducks aligned so I am congruent with the reality.

I believe perhaps the global elite will kill off any system which doesn't mandate a viewkey on each mixed transaction, wherein some elected foundation or body is given responsibility for whom has the private key(s) to the viewkey. Better perhaps a multisig viewkey would be best where these would be given to multiple authorities (e.g. each of the major powers or regions national security agencies), and then a quorum of them would have to agree in order to view a transaction.

Thus I think the level of mixing (above 0) is irrelevant.

I just don't believe you snub the global elite and expect to not get your ass wiped in the mud.

I had hoped for an absolute technological immunity, but I studied all the technology deeply and I am very, very confident to tell you that it is impossible. The global elite will remain in control of the Iron Law of Political Economics.

Mass privacy is very important and Monero should stop being delusional and realize how they have to structure their system in order to be accepted.

I guess they might just attack the users and catch them at the on/off ramps and destroy interest in coins that obscure the blockchain from the authorities.

I believe perhaps the global elite will kill off any system which doesn't mandate a viewkey on each mixed transaction, wherein some elected foundation or body is given responsibility for whom has the private key(s) to the viewkey. Better perhaps a multisig viewkey would be best where these would be given to multiple authorities (e.g. each of the major powers or regions national security agencies), and then a quorum of them would have to agree in order to view a transaction.

Thus I think the level of mixing (above 0) is irrelevant.

I just don't believe you snub the global elite and expect to not get your ass wiped in the mud.

I had hoped for an absolute technological immunity, but I studied all the technology deeply and I am very, very confident to tell you that it is impossible. The global elite will remain in control of the Iron Law of Political Economics.

Mass privacy is very important and Monero should stop being delusional and realize how they have to structure their system in order to be accepted.

I guess they might just attack the users and catch them at the on/off ramps and destroy interest in coins that obscure the blockchain from the authorities.

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There will exist no such place. Name one. Just one.

Moreover, the protocol is controlled by the Chinese mining cartel, so all the regulation can be done from China. Your coins can be confiscated China regulates their ASIC mining farms. If Monero scales up, it will also be captured by the Chinese cartel.


The Internet will be regulated. China is the model. They will assume the throne of the financial capital of the world in 2033.

You can waste your time disbelieving (and end up in jail and/or all you wealth confiscated). Meanwhile I will get my ducks aligned so I am congruent with the reality.

I had to speak the magic words to @keean in order to get him to see I am thinking of something very different:

https://users.rust-lang.org/t/high-order-function-with-type-parameter/3112/229

If I bring my design to fruition, the intent is that it can't be centralized, because the power remains in the hands of the each spender to choose where they sent their unprofitable PoW share. But the bottom line is that Iron Law of Political Economics guarantees that in effect the global elite control the minds of the people, e.g. which wallet software the spenders choose, etc..

You'll never create a protocol that is immune to political economics. Not even the base protocols of the Internet are immune.

But yeah, I'd attempt to give us the best that can be achieved in terms of decentralization.

I am just being honest. I don't want to fool people with ideological bullshit.