Yeah, it would work great for everyone but the miners who bought their equipment for, let's say $1k, knowing that it would generate a maximum of, say 60-100 bitcoins over its lifetime due to increasing difficulty.  Not cool if BTC drops to 33 cents.  Ie. in order for the miners to stick around, there has to be some sort of reasonable ratio of difficulty to price.  At the very least to cover electricity (I get it cheap but it's quite possible that I'll spend half of my earnings on the utility bill this month at the current market prices and a difficulty increase).

Yeah, I'm not surprised that you'd take that as a compliment because I'm surely not the first person to say Jesus Christ, do we really all have to stare at the face x6 every time you open your mouth?  And I understand that there are all types of people, and one of them is the type that loves to annoy other people.  :|

Well, good points.  I'm more in it for the short-term gain right now, simply because I bought my miners with money that should have gone towards bills and food.    But also, I think this is a valid point of view because if the miners don't make a profit, there's not much incentive to mine, and thus the hash rate and security will drop.  But yeah, let's get it over with. 

No.  Way more likely they're leaving because they can't get work/connections.  I like the payout system the way it is.  I only left because my miners were idle.

And Chick, wtf is wrong with your signature?  Is that your face?  Why would anyone want to see your face x6 every time you say something?  Don't say anything cause I don't want to see it again, but seriously, that's the ugliest, most annoying sig on the site. 

Pardon me if this is obvious but...  I feel like one of the main reasons that the price of bitcoins is hovering around 14, rather than at IDK, 30, 100 , is that there are massive sells every so often.  I'm not entirely sure that it's just one seller at a time, but it sure looks that way when I look at the charts.  The price will be fairly stable, and then there's like $100K sold in one minute, and the price will drop 50 cents or a dollar.  It will slowly recover, surely greatly helped by massive buys at some point.  But I feel like it can't get too high because these massive sells always sweep out all of the buy orders. 

So it seems to me that there are a few players, whether they're early adopters or big speculators, who are keeping the market a lot lower than it would be otherwise.  Mostly because they can't be bothered to sell small amounts at a time.  And if any of them read this, please spread out your sells a bit. 

I like this pool a lot and wish it would work better.  I don't even care so much about the lack of fees.  I just like the site, the design, the philosophy, and the fact that it's in Sweden.    So I hope these issues get sorted out.  +1 on the previous comments.

Oops, sorry for taking forever to notice this reply.  I have an XFX.  I have it now at 970.  Seems to crash at 975 or 980.  Were I to do this all over again, I wouldn't have bought XFX cards. 

Oh well.  Yeah, I didn't realize it was such a poor efficiency.  For reference, this is what you're talking about, I think:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carnot%27s_theorem_%28thermodynamics%29.

Well, it seems like that's enough energy to power a liquid cooling system, so that you could have a self-contained cooler requiring no extra juice, powered solely off of the waste heat.  It'd be cool.  Not terribly useful but pretty badass.

Oh yeah.  I can't wait till winter.  I use so little heat in the winter, that I think what I'm generating right now by mining will be plenty.

Haha, yeah, I know.  You probably spent more money than I did and got higher quality equipment.   

Still though, my stuff goes down.  Sometimes the power goes out momentarily.  Sometimes one card freezes up on my shitty dual card motherboard.  So then all of that work that I did before the crash goes to you guys, who don't have downtime, on the assumption that, because I'm disconnecting, I must be scamming. 

Sorry if I came off like a jerk, I'm sick and recently quit smoking and getting mad at everything.   Not trying to say slush is doing a bad job, I just think he and the other score-based pool operators need to change the scoring system, IMO.

I also feel like I made substantially less for a period of a few days than I should have, even when I was up and running full-time.  Not sure though at the moment, but that was fueling my irritation.

But also though, slush, IMO, your update on pointing miners to the new URL looked so much like the old update on that that I just plain didn't see it until I happened to read this thread.  Make it blue or green next time.

Yeah, I was thinking stirling too.  There's also some pretty swanky new steam engines out there.  It *would* look freaking amazing.    There's just so much juice going into my cards, and so much heat going out, it's such a shame to not boil something with it.

Because of the score-based system, I keep losing a lot of my earnings when a miner crashes for whatever reason.  It's pretty frustrating to have 100-200 shares and have a score of 80.  I guess, now that I read this, it's because of a DDOS (nothing on the site that said this, just a barely noticeable item saying point it to api2, which btw, since you had that old one saying point to api, I didn't even see it for the longest time.) 
So I appreciate all the earnings, but I also don't like getting punished b/c of the score system, when my disconnects are not because I'm trying to scam the pool.  They're just routine crashes.   
Couldn't you change the score system--why should I have a score of 80 with 100 shares, and have my other miners have scores of 10ks or whatever they are, and have like 150 shares?  Ie. be much kinder for disconnected miners.

I'm hoping someone can do the math on this: 

What if you liquid cooled your GPUs with hexane or water that heats up the hexane?  Make hexane steam (it has a boiling point of about 60C, depending on the type) to power a steam engine.  How much psi do you think you could get for an average high-end ATI card's waste heat?  I'm wondering how much electricity you could generate off of that heat.  I figure 1kw off of 150psi, just from looking around at kits and diy projects, which is roughly how much I'm using with my 4 gpus.  I'm rounding off a lot of numbers here though.

Hey, you're awesome, man.  Thanks for doing this.  I can't think of anything that's not corny to say but it really warmed my heart to see that you were on top of this, saving the wallets.   

Yeah, it is disappointing that nothing else is happening, like proteins being folded, cancer cured.  

I'm thinking though that more namecoin like projects will arise.  (I'm not too hip so I don't know about them yet.)  I'd like to see some way of doing the folding/seti@home type stuff with the bitcoin network (or rather people moving to it from bitcoin), a way in which people get paid for their work, but I'm not sure why that currency would have value.  Saw mention of a possibility of piggybacking onto the bitcoin blockchain for security? for other *coins. 

Like imagine there's an AI network, crunching away at finding better AI (sounds fishy but I'm just trying to summarize instead of spending 4 pages explaining ).  Maybe if the miners are getting paid in shares, like stock, that can be traded for btc.  Like this AI company is going to use the power of the network to make really well-evolved stuff, and so is going to pay them to do it (in future dividends per share?), and the better it is, the better the company will be in the marketplace.  Possibly some small percentage of the power of that network would go to finding hashes for their currency or distributing the payments a la bitcoin, but it would be a very small difficulty, and hopefully could somehow piggyback on something else just for the security.

But the point here is that the bitcoin network is amazingly powerful, and it could very well funnel a lot of that power into related projects, just because everyone's sort of actively involved--more likely to see it and go there, being on bitcoin, than if they were just sitting in their quiet house, watching hulu, oblivious.  Which is where I was a month ago, with no hashing power.    Now I have a gig.  And I approximately multiplied my total instructions per second in this house by 1000.  And possibly the decibels. 

Wow, I think the cards are rated to somewhere like 90C.  100C is really hot.  I personally don't like my cards at 80C.  I'm new to this but I never use the stock fan control.  I either set it manually in windows with the catalyst control panel or use AMDOverdriveCtrl in linux.  Especially in a laptop, I think you're going to burn something up, like your cards.   And yes, underclock memory to reduce temps.   Too low will also reduce hashes so experiment or use other people's values.  If I don't turn the fan speed up, my cards will rocket to high temps very fast.  Yeah, I'm stressing out the fans more but I've also read on here that higher temps shorten the life of your chips (just as higher fan speeds shorten the fan life)

I've fried CPUs, and GPUs by having a poorly secured cooler or a broken fan on the cooler.  I've heard there is a failsafe on ATI cards, but I wouldn't personally try it.  But you'd definitely get a fried card before you got a fire, unless your power supply was faulty, which can happen but it's rare.

Solution!  Service Pack 3.

Hey, I came across this problem again and was helped out on another thread.  Having service pack 3 solved the No OpenCL Devices Found problem.  I also needed .NET 2.0 (for catalyst) and python 3.2 for guiminer (solved the Application couldn't start, incorrect application information problem with guiminer).  (And I've done this from a scratch a few times so I'm fairly sure those are the minimum requirements on top of the catalyst drivers)

Service Pack 3 worked!!  For the record, the latest python is also necessary.  Thanks!

Linuxcoin:  I use it on another rig but this one won't boot a usb stick.  Just donated today--I love it. 

Well, it worked for 10 minutes, then I got a popup ATI error report (saying the card was no longer responding), requesting to send it.  Hashes showed like it was going but no activity in the control panel and low temps.  So I restarted guiminer, it went for 2 seconds, then the computer powered off.    And not in a gentle way.  I am letting it sit for a bit.

squirral: wow!  Wow.

eramus:  Sure all of the miners are doing independent tasks, but the whole process is a brute force search for some really unlikely things.  So they all have to work independently, sort of, it's the nature of the task.  It's still a giant task.

First off, I'm sorry and almost sure this has been answered before, but I've looked for a while and tried a bunch of things, and I give up.

I have a 6870 that I'm trying to get mining on Windows XP 32 bit.  Got the catalyst drivers and stream sdk installed.  Tried 11.6 and 11.5  GPU-Z says that I don't have opencl installed.  Guiminer says the same thing.   I am using the card for the display, and the catalyst control panel launches (ie. the card is working).

I had the same problem trying to get a 5830 to work on a different xp 32 machine, but I got it to work on windows 7 64 super easily.  (windows 7 not an option on this--just a via nano with 1 gig)

For this computer, it's either xp 32 or linux.  I might go back to linux, but I followed one of the really popular guides to mining on ubuntu on here, and a couple hours later, after a reboot, my linux got hosed.    And the stupid default ubuntu installer hosed my windows xp boot-capability.  So I started all over and figured windows should be easy. 

Thanks for any help!