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Science is build up on observations, experimentation and evidences, in other words driven by the so called scientific method. Religion is based on faith, which by definition is believing without evidences.
Scientific theories must be falsifiable, religious doctrines cannot.
Scientific theories must be falsifiable, religious doctrines cannot.
The Bible is eye witness observations and records of things that God does among people. If you think that Bible eye witness accounts are false, then throw out all the not-known-to-be-fact science theories right along with it... theories that are known to not be known fact.
And when your bible has comments Jesus made to your God with no-one around to observe, these were somehow observed by people who then wrote about them?
Whatever Fucktard!
Can't be eyewitness observations!
The Father was there, and the Holy Spirit. So, there are two or three witness. The Holy Spirit makes known what went on to the people who pen the words by Holy Spirit direction. Witnesses, one and all.
Imaginary people don't count. They are only real to you and therefore don't exist.
I truly believe you need a better book to read, one which has more semblance of reality.
A perfect book for you, would be, "Little Miss Contrary". The story of a young child who always says the opposite of what she means.
Science is build up on observations, experimentation and evidences, in other words driven by the so called scientific method. Religion is based on faith, which by definition is believing without evidences.
Scientific theories must be falsifiable, religious doctrines cannot.
Scientific theories must be falsifiable, religious doctrines cannot.
The Bible is eye witness observations and records of things that God does among people. If you think that Bible eye witness accounts are false, then throw out all the not-known-to-be-fact science theories right along with it... theories that are known to not be known fact.
And when your bible has comments Jesus made to your God with no-one around to observe, these were somehow observed by people who then wrote about them?
Whatever Fucktard!
Can't be eyewitness observations!
Yeah, I'm full of shit. So far my life has been the same, I have never seen telekinesis. I will probably die at 80 and not see telekinesis with my eyes, you know why? Because it doesn't exist. Stop believing nonsensical garbage, is not helping you with anything, is it?
The claims you made do not follow each other and are not based in evidence: you never state that these tests are flawed, so what reason is there to reject them? Just because you were not a witness?Chain of claims made by you:
I have never seen TK.
I will never see TK.
TK does not exist.
Knowing about (the existence of) TK is not helpful or practical.
You arguments never address the science. Not one of your arguments have ever addressed the evidence, you are covering up the results of these tests because you cannot explain them. I also linked to a test where the TK was recorded on video, but you did not care to see the tests since then you would NOT be able to claim that you have never seen TK.
While I don't necessarily accept the things you say, I haven't investigated them. But...
There are several jokers on who appear in threads like this one, who claim to support science, yet believe opposite the science. They don't have rebuttals to science, yet they won't accept it.
Personally, I don't know whether they are trolls, or are simply, staunchly in favor of their religion, and don't even recognize it as religion, but call it science.
It's about time that the science community wakes up and reports the truth right out in the open... that they don't really know much of anything. After all, the science theorists aren't the ones doing most of the new science work. It is the experimenters and the engineers doing it. Then the theorists adjust their theories according to what the engineers find that reality is.
Those troll-like jokers simply stick with the old theories of the theorists rather than accepting new findings, and the thing that reality has always been.
http://i.imgur.com/i4lZXXU.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UrCSU2u.jpg
Thanks, sirazimuth, for helping to emphasize everything that I said, above.
Everything you say is pseudo-science and circular talk, there is nothing to refute because everything you say is self refuted.
At least the flat earth people come right out and say that globe earth science is pseudo-science, even though they might use other wording.
Come on. Spit it out. Say, "Cause and effect is pseudo-science," if that's what you mean. Say, "Complexity is pseudo-science," and, "Entropy is pseudo-science." Don't beat around the bush all the time. What you say is kinda useless when you keep on beating around the bush like that.
Hey Dickhead (BADecker) ........
Read what he said..... "Everything you say is pseudo-science and circular talk"
Never did he say Cause and effect are pseudo science. Once again you assume too much. That my furry little friend is your down fall.
You assume everything and prove nothing.
^^^ BADecker wishes he could slither back into the polluted womb whence he came.
Thank you for helping to support globe earth in the flat earth thread.
Welcome to the world of delusional BADecker.
Because someone says something which shows no relevance, BADecker simply assumes he wins a discussion. Unfortunately what this does is show his inability to apply any kind of rational thinking..... by stating someone has done something without evidence, shows him to be full of shit and impedes the progress of others.
Personally, I do not give a shit if the Earth is flat, a globe, triangle or even octagonal. I just enjoy reading the discussions.
I don't waste my time explaining anything to dinks that are too lazy to do their own research.
You use the internet to log on to this forum, so try using Google.
Maybe try clicking on some of the links I provide.
Then go fuck yourself, you cunt.
If you don't want to explain anything to anyone, then why do you post?
Sorry old chap, but that just leaves you as a troll.
Now I personally like the majority of the insults you post. I actually find them quite funny.
However, if you want to be taken seriously, then I recommend you rebut some of the points before you unleash your "charm" on others.
I just can not understand. What other proofs of God do you need to have in the scientific plan? This is not provable at all and I do not understand how it can be proved. Is there a god and how much religion is there in society. It already depends purely on everyone from what he believes.
If people were right in the things they believed, there wouldn't be any accidents.
Science attempts to prove many things without having people believe them. Some things it has proven. Some it hasn't proven. Not everybody understands how science proves all the things it proves.
God is the only One Who believes what is right all the time.
Maybe nobody needs scientific proof that God exists, but some people are curious.
Science proves and nature showsthat God exists:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.
If your crappy links were in fact proof of your god, pretty sure that everyone would know this as it would have been made public a long time ago.
As your links are not quoted by a single other person aside from yourself....
Your links = FAIL
I need no proof that God exists, you only need to believe in God and he will reveal himself to you in many wonderful ways.
While this ^^^ is truth, this thread is about scientific proof.
Nobody knows what you just read if you won't spell it out.
Where does the universe come from? Where does life come from? It sure isn't simplistic places like big bang and evolution.
The only working answers are, "We don't know," or, "God." Science proves and nature shows that it was God:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.
Nobody says you have to let yourself understand it... or say that you understand if you do.
Assumptions.
All your links do is lead you to assumptions.
Been debunked many times. You are the only one to not admit this.
That makes you delusional my furry little friend.
You're still too ignorant to understand the answer, I see.
EDIT: You and stats should head over to the local tavern together. The tavern patrons and the bartender would get the biggest laugh ever watching you two try to order a couple of drinks.
Maybe whilst at the tavern the entire place could discuss how ignorant you are.
We could even discuss how you believe it is appropriate for children to marry. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1969184.msg19591768#msg19591768
You are a twisted individual BADecker.
I don't really think this should pass unobserved, regardless the fact that Badecker calls anyone a troll or not. I've kept talking about the lack of morality on most apologists, but this is a little bit beyond. A creep who pretends to understands science claims that 12, for girls, and 14, for boys, is a good age for marriage. Of course, marriage implies sexual intercourse, it may also allow pregnancy, etc. Nowadays, a big majority of people who get married experience a divorce at a certain time, mostly because we still fail to communicate properly and we make really bad choices being influenced, at many times, by the chemistry of attraction. A simple relationship requires understanding, cohabitation, cooperation, and many other social 'talents' that the human being possesses, a 12 or 14 year old is not even close to behave like that, let alone the fact that such a thing would interact and ruin the beautiful and sincere process of childhood. Of course some religious people, especially christians nowadays, have no problem with having sexual intercourse with a 12 or 14 year old, they actually believe it's right and healthy. We can observe the same behavior on our friend Badecker. I'm not accusing him of molesting children, I am highlighting a lack of morality, or better said, the presence of a specifically religious immorality in his behavior. Check the link and you will see his answer after stats actually asked him 'what the fuck?'. He posted some links (typically of him) of some laws from Massachusetts, as if that would make it right. Conclusion: now we know he is stupid, most probably mentally ill and he also lacks morality, since his morality is 'God given', and as we all know, his God, the 'scientifically' proved one, only gave 10 commandments...child abuse is not part of them. Stay tuned folks, our Badkecker shows his faces with every post.
P.S. He won't ever answer to these accusations, he will just say it's 'trolling or religious talk' and he will try to go around it by claiming that this does not rebut his 'science'.
Well, that's not true. All anyone has to do is rebut the science of cause and effect, entropy, or complexity to show that God doesn't exist. That shouldn't be so hard for you multi-talented trolls. Come on now. Do some rebutting.
Since you can't, you continue to support the proof that God exists. God doesn't really thank you for this. He simply made things so that you can't. He has Himself to pat on the back for blocking you jokers.
Debunked by yourself: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088
And debunked by me: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19357376#msg19357376
Also: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19355289#msg19355289
How do you know? You cant explain the rebuttal that you are talking about. And you dont have any rebuttal of your own.
Ha ha ha ha.
The delusional one is now asking for an explanation of the rebuttal.
That just proves he has no idea.
BADecker: With his moronic statements he is the gift which just keeps giving.
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Can one of you Flat Earth believers please explain the above ^^^^^ I am curious to the FE understanding of these points.
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I'll see your crickets, and raise you.
The flat Earth model can't explain why both the Arctic and Antarctic regions experience periods of total sunlight or total darkness for complete seasons while the rest of the Earth experiences daily sun rises and sun sets during the same periods.
Nor can it explain eclipses.
Nor the behaviour of the colour banding of the sky when the sun rises or sets.
Nor celestial events that occur periodically eg. Halley's Comet.
Nor why the sun can illuminate the underside of a cloud on dry land.
Nor the differences between the stars in the sky in the Northern and Southern hemispheres.
Nor why the Sun and Moon move in relation to the Earth's sky.
Nor the other celestial bodies.
The flat Earth model can't explain why both the Arctic and Antarctic regions experience periods of total sunlight or total darkness for complete seasons while the rest of the Earth experiences daily sun rises and sun sets during the same periods.
Nor can it explain eclipses.
Nor the behaviour of the colour banding of the sky when the sun rises or sets.
Nor celestial events that occur periodically eg. Halley's Comet.
Nor why the sun can illuminate the underside of a cloud on dry land.
Nor the differences between the stars in the sky in the Northern and Southern hemispheres.
Nor why the Sun and Moon move in relation to the Earth's sky.
Nor the other celestial bodies.
Can one of you Flat Earth believers please explain the above ^^^^^ I am curious to the FE understanding of these points.
Fake/hoaxed 24 hour sunlight video in Antarctica, all the videos are cut/edited or shot at the North pole.
Eclipse are cased by the Black Sun; a 3rd hidden celestial entity in our sky.
Not sure what the OP means by colour banding but dust and crap cause those nice sunsets.
Unknown what comets are, can you provide one for study?
The shallow angle of the sun at a distance explains sun lighting up the underside of clouds.
We're under a reflective dome that distorts light, the light bends as the stars rotate.
The Sun and Moon orbit above us, I can't say much more than what is observable to everybody.
As for other orbital bodies, I really don't know what the causes the phases of Venus...
I don't have all the answers however Earth is a flat motionless plane this much I do know.
1 question....
If the videos shot of the total sunshine or darkness are faked and/or done in the arctic, how do you explain the tourists who venture to the Antarctic and witness this?
http://www.coolantarctica.com/Community/midwinter_antarctica.php
Anybody who claims they witnessed the Sun do a 360 in Antarctica is a liar.
That is a very uneducated answer without substance.
It certainly gives an achievable possibility to be tested.
You can find multiple videos on youtube that explain Antarctica and the false claim that the Sun can been seen doing a 360 like at the north pole.
Eyewitness accounts are a very different thing.
I would personally like to see a FE and GE couple visit the Antarctic for a complete viewing and see what really happens.
Episode 21: 'Chaos and randomness inside the mind of a retard named...you know the name'
Ever won an argument with a decent, intelligent human being? Things change, the argument changes from his side, he thinks about it, even if he still sustains his idea, his argumentation will take new thinks into consideration. Try the same with dumb, stupid, idiotic people and it will go like this: no matter how evident your argument is, his argument will always stay the same. He can never realize the fallacy in his thinking so he will always believe he is right, never researching further. That is what is happening with our small retard, Badecker. His answers have a randomness, many times he does not answer to what you said but to what crosses his useless mind. But no matter how random his answer is, he will always keep claiming the same stupid shit, over and over again. For him, the big bang is not real. He can't really understand that the Big Bang has been scientifically observed, its traces have been seen, they completely match the theory. He does not understand that there was first a theory and a prediction of what they would find and they found exactly the same thing the theory contained (Background Radiation). He does not understand the Big Bang was not a myth (as Gods are), it was properly defined, it obeys scientific laws, it is completely understandable and it has already been reproduced, on a very small scale. He somehow surpasses all of the facts in favor of his brainwashing fairy tale. He can not understand logic and he does not realize that cause and effect can not be a definite law since some things may except from the rule (radioactive decay, the big bang itself) because a cause has not yet been found, which turns cause and effect into an imperfect rule. He does not understand complexity, neither entropy and we can tell that just by the very own fact that he calls them 'scientific laws'. He does not understand that a God could not be proven based on the fact that cause and effect, entropy and complexity exist since all of these might (and might is the right term because of the exceptions) lead to the existence of a cause of the beginning, one that is undefined and unseen at the moment. He does not understand that because of our understanding of this universe (an understanding that works, it gets things going) science never mentions God as a possible first cause since there are an infinite more probable causes than this one. He does not understand that all religions have the same 'characteristics' of the Creator, they differ on the stories an are all man made and 90% they are historically erroneous which makes it all to seem a 'forgery' from the beginning. He does not understand that the age of our universe is an approximation, a very close one, not a theory and that it is a fact because the proofs have already been made, observations were clear, research was strongly done. All that Badecker can think of is that whatever the circumstances, God exists. No matter how hard the evidence would be, he would believe the same. That is a mental illness and a huge level of stupidity. The funny thing, the one that makes us not give a flying spit on his ideas, is that he doesn't even understand that he is stupid. Stay tuned for more, the chaotic retard will most surely come back with some new package for his own shit.
Ever won an argument with a decent, intelligent human being? Things change, the argument changes from his side, he thinks about it, even if he still sustains his idea, his argumentation will take new thinks into consideration. Try the same with dumb, stupid, idiotic people and it will go like this: no matter how evident your argument is, his argument will always stay the same. He can never realize the fallacy in his thinking so he will always believe he is right, never researching further. That is what is happening with our small retard, Badecker. His answers have a randomness, many times he does not answer to what you said but to what crosses his useless mind. But no matter how random his answer is, he will always keep claiming the same stupid shit, over and over again. For him, the big bang is not real. He can't really understand that the Big Bang has been scientifically observed, its traces have been seen, they completely match the theory. He does not understand that there was first a theory and a prediction of what they would find and they found exactly the same thing the theory contained (Background Radiation). He does not understand the Big Bang was not a myth (as Gods are), it was properly defined, it obeys scientific laws, it is completely understandable and it has already been reproduced, on a very small scale. He somehow surpasses all of the facts in favor of his brainwashing fairy tale. He can not understand logic and he does not realize that cause and effect can not be a definite law since some things may except from the rule (radioactive decay, the big bang itself) because a cause has not yet been found, which turns cause and effect into an imperfect rule. He does not understand complexity, neither entropy and we can tell that just by the very own fact that he calls them 'scientific laws'. He does not understand that a God could not be proven based on the fact that cause and effect, entropy and complexity exist since all of these might (and might is the right term because of the exceptions) lead to the existence of a cause of the beginning, one that is undefined and unseen at the moment. He does not understand that because of our understanding of this universe (an understanding that works, it gets things going) science never mentions God as a possible first cause since there are an infinite more probable causes than this one. He does not understand that all religions have the same 'characteristics' of the Creator, they differ on the stories an are all man made and 90% they are historically erroneous which makes it all to seem a 'forgery' from the beginning. He does not understand that the age of our universe is an approximation, a very close one, not a theory and that it is a fact because the proofs have already been made, observations were clear, research was strongly done. All that Badecker can think of is that whatever the circumstances, God exists. No matter how hard the evidence would be, he would believe the same. That is a mental illness and a huge level of stupidity. The funny thing, the one that makes us not give a flying spit on his ideas, is that he doesn't even understand that he is stupid. Stay tuned for more, the chaotic retard will most surely come back with some new package for his own shit.
LOL!
Did you write that before my last comment? Or did you start it as soon as you saw I was online?
The scientific laws of cause and effect, entropy, and complexity, when combined, not only prove that God exists, but also prove that there is no other way. Check out the summaries here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380,
and then research it to see for yourself.
HWW, your humor is simply too much
Ha ha ha ha ha ha
You still posting your links.
Have you ever asked yourself why noone else posts your links? Its because they prove nothing.
You are the only one who believes them.
That is why i laugh at you.
It's not that other people don't believe. It's like you... don't understand. Science isn't a believing matter. It is an understanding of knowledge matter.
Of course, our small idiot will never be able to surpass his stupidity, he actually believes he is so important that someone would follow to see when he is online. He believes himself to be a small God. He also believes people were healthier before and they could all be inbred. They could, but they were not healthy and neither were the off springs...it's just a science thing, we can't expect Badecker to understand it. He always says about anyone who actually knows a bit of science that they do 'religious talk', he does not believe in the Big Bang...and then he goes telling stats science isn't a believing matter. A religious apologist who believes God exists because cause and effect exists says science is not believing matter. Not that he wouldn't be right, science really isn't a believing matter, it's just the irony of it all: he only makes false assumptions (he believes stuff) while he knows science is not about that. Understanding of knowledge? This guy does not even understand in what he believes anymore. That is indeed mental illness with a shit ton of stupidity. Stick around for episode 21!
Our subject test, badecker, believes in god, the christian god. He claims there is scientific proof for it yet he never actually posts any evidence that leads to think that the real god is the christian god, he just believes it. He doesn't believe in evolution, of course, that would require some scientific understanding of the world, something that badecker doesn't have. He doesn't believe that the earth is flat, this is a surprise because you would expect an idiot like badecker to believe in any stupid shit but he doesn't. However he does have a thread called, US cops are worse than ISIS which is just fucking retarded, again, expected from badecker.
List of beliefs by badecker:
Believes in God
Believes that cops are worse than ISIS
Believes the earth is only 6000 years old (rofl)
Believes humans and dinosaurs lived together (rofl)
Believes a God watches you masturbate
Believes that all languages originated thanks to the babel tower (rofl)
And I'm still waiting for that definition of God, badecker, I asked you like 10 times, you seem to ignore it.
XinXan and HWW both believe that by talking religion they will be able to disprove science. So, that's what they have done... above. Yet, they don't have any rebuttal for the scientific proof that God exists, except political science. Political science says that if you talk long enough, people will believe you, even if you are wrong about what you are saying.
God and the scientific proof that He exists stand, with or without any rebuttal they might think that they have.
EDIT: Btw, XinXan. Thanks for placing me in the position of authority for describing God. Anybody can Google "What is God?" But you are setting me up as authority higher than Google responses. Thank you for that honor.
Badecker: Scientifically speaking, I don't know what the Creator really is.
Badecker: At the same time, cause and effect, entropy, and complexity point towards that "Something" that we can't fathom, as being the Creator.
So you still avoid the definition I see.
You're still too ignorant to understand the answer, I see.
EDIT: You and stats should head over to the local tavern together. The tavern patrons and the bartender would get the biggest laugh ever watching you two try to order a couple of drinks.
Maybe whilst at the tavern the entire place could discuss how ignorant you are.
We could even discuss how you believe it is appropriate for children to marry. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1969184.msg19591768#msg19591768
You are a twisted individual BADecker.
There you go again, proving yourself to be a badmouthing troll.
But you still haven't shown even one rebuttal that can stand against the fact that God exists:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.
You rebutted your own proof....
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
You even stated you don't know....
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088
Sorry troll boy. Keep trying.
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Can one of you Flat Earth believers please explain the above ^^^^^ I am curious to the FE understanding of these points.
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I'll see your crickets, and raise you.
The flat Earth model can't explain why both the Arctic and Antarctic regions experience periods of total sunlight or total darkness for complete seasons while the rest of the Earth experiences daily sun rises and sun sets during the same periods.
Nor can it explain eclipses.
Nor the behaviour of the colour banding of the sky when the sun rises or sets.
Nor celestial events that occur periodically eg. Halley's Comet.
Nor why the sun can illuminate the underside of a cloud on dry land.
Nor the differences between the stars in the sky in the Northern and Southern hemispheres.
Nor why the Sun and Moon move in relation to the Earth's sky.
Nor the other celestial bodies.
The flat Earth model can't explain why both the Arctic and Antarctic regions experience periods of total sunlight or total darkness for complete seasons while the rest of the Earth experiences daily sun rises and sun sets during the same periods.
Nor can it explain eclipses.
Nor the behaviour of the colour banding of the sky when the sun rises or sets.
Nor celestial events that occur periodically eg. Halley's Comet.
Nor why the sun can illuminate the underside of a cloud on dry land.
Nor the differences between the stars in the sky in the Northern and Southern hemispheres.
Nor why the Sun and Moon move in relation to the Earth's sky.
Nor the other celestial bodies.
Can one of you Flat Earth believers please explain the above ^^^^^ I am curious to the FE understanding of these points.
Fake/hoaxed 24 hour sunlight video in Antarctica, all the videos are cut/edited or shot at the North pole.
Eclipse are cased by the Black Sun; a 3rd hidden celestial entity in our sky.
Not sure what the OP means by colour banding but dust and crap cause those nice sunsets.
Unknown what comets are, can you provide one for study?
The shallow angle of the sun at a distance explains sun lighting up the underside of clouds.
We're under a reflective dome that distorts light, the light bends as the stars rotate.
The Sun and Moon orbit above us, I can't say much more than what is observable to everybody.
As for other orbital bodies, I really don't know what the causes the phases of Venus...
I don't have all the answers however Earth is a flat motionless plane this much I do know.
1 question....
If the videos shot of the total sunshine or darkness are faked and/or done in the arctic, how do you explain the tourists who venture to the Antarctic and witness this?
http://www.coolantarctica.com/Community/midwinter_antarctica.php
Anybody who claims they witnessed the Sun do a 360 in Antarctica is a liar.
That is a very uneducated answer without substance.
It certainly gives an achievable possibility to be tested.
You're still too ignorant to understand the answer, I see.
EDIT: You and stats should head over to the local tavern together. The tavern patrons and the bartender would get the biggest laugh ever watching you two try to order a couple of drinks.
Maybe whilst at the tavern the entire place could discuss how ignorant you are.
We could even discuss how you believe it is appropriate for children to marry. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1969184.msg19591768#msg19591768
You are a twisted individual BADecker.
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Can one of you Flat Earth believers please explain the above ^^^^^ I am curious to the FE understanding of these points.
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I'll see your crickets, and raise you.
The flat Earth model can't explain why both the Arctic and Antarctic regions experience periods of total sunlight or total darkness for complete seasons while the rest of the Earth experiences daily sun rises and sun sets during the same periods.
Nor can it explain eclipses.
Nor the behaviour of the colour banding of the sky when the sun rises or sets.
Nor celestial events that occur periodically eg. Halley's Comet.
Nor why the sun can illuminate the underside of a cloud on dry land.
Nor the differences between the stars in the sky in the Northern and Southern hemispheres.
Nor why the Sun and Moon move in relation to the Earth's sky.
Nor the other celestial bodies.
The flat Earth model can't explain why both the Arctic and Antarctic regions experience periods of total sunlight or total darkness for complete seasons while the rest of the Earth experiences daily sun rises and sun sets during the same periods.
Nor can it explain eclipses.
Nor the behaviour of the colour banding of the sky when the sun rises or sets.
Nor celestial events that occur periodically eg. Halley's Comet.
Nor why the sun can illuminate the underside of a cloud on dry land.
Nor the differences between the stars in the sky in the Northern and Southern hemispheres.
Nor why the Sun and Moon move in relation to the Earth's sky.
Nor the other celestial bodies.
Can one of you Flat Earth believers please explain the above ^^^^^ I am curious to the FE understanding of these points.
Fake/hoaxed 24 hour sunlight video in Antarctica, all the videos are cut/edited or shot at the North pole.
Eclipse are cased by the Black Sun; a 3rd hidden celestial entity in our sky.
Not sure what the OP means by colour banding but dust and crap cause those nice sunsets.
Unknown what comets are, can you provide one for study?
The shallow angle of the sun at a distance explains sun lighting up the underside of clouds.
We're under a reflective dome that distorts light, the light bends as the stars rotate.
The Sun and Moon orbit above us, I can't say much more than what is observable to everybody.
As for other orbital bodies, I really don't know what the causes the phases of Venus...
I don't have all the answers however Earth is a flat motionless plane this much I do know.
1 question....
If the videos shot of the total sunshine or darkness are faked and/or done in the arctic, how do you explain the tourists who venture to the Antarctic and witness this?
http://www.coolantarctica.com/Community/midwinter_antarctica.php
No, I'm serious. There's something weird about that. Along with this:
But then, I'm still waiting for all those juicy proofs from #teamglobe. I got one comment sofar about sunlight, which was disputed by #teamflat on the grounds that you can in fact have a flat Earth with daylight for 12 hours, and night for 12 hours. So onto the next?
Or am I going to have to call this...
But then, I'm still waiting for all those juicy proofs from #teamglobe. I got one comment sofar about sunlight, which was disputed by #teamflat on the grounds that you can in fact have a flat Earth with daylight for 12 hours, and night for 12 hours. So onto the next?
Or am I going to have to call this...
I'll see your crickets, and raise you.
The flat Earth model can't explain why both the Arctic and Antarctic regions experience periods of total sunlight or total darkness for complete seasons while the rest of the Earth experiences daily sun rises and sun sets during the same periods.
Nor can it explain eclipses.
Nor the behaviour of the colour banding of the sky when the sun rises or sets.
Nor celestial events that occur periodically eg. Halley's Comet.
Nor why the sun can illuminate the underside of a cloud on dry land.
Nor the differences between the stars in the sky in the Northern and Southern hemispheres.
Nor why the Sun and Moon move in relation to the Earth's sky.
Nor the other celestial bodies.
Can one of you Flat Earth believers please explain the above ^^^^^ I am curious to the FE understanding of these points.
"Create" is a word, 'eternally' bound to the fundamental defining qualities of entities known as "human beings".
I faithfully, straightforwardly and unrestrainedly attest that I am a human being. I am also therefore a god.
However, unlike the real God, you are severely limited in your capacity to create.
Who is the real god?
You keep saying this and people keep asking for your definition yet you fail to explain.
Why do you do this? Because you are fake and a fraud. You are a troll.
Episode 21: 'Chaos and randomness inside the mind of a retard named...you know the name'
Ever won an argument with a decent, intelligent human being? Things change, the argument changes from his side, he thinks about it, even if he still sustains his idea, his argumentation will take new thinks into consideration. Try the same with dumb, stupid, idiotic people and it will go like this: no matter how evident your argument is, his argument will always stay the same. He can never realize the fallacy in his thinking so he will always believe he is right, never researching further. That is what is happening with our small retard, Badecker. His answers have a randomness, many times he does not answer to what you said but to what crosses his useless mind. But no matter how random his answer is, he will always keep claiming the same stupid shit, over and over again. For him, the big bang is not real. He can't really understand that the Big Bang has been scientifically observed, its traces have been seen, they completely match the theory. He does not understand that there was first a theory and a prediction of what they would find and they found exactly the same thing the theory contained (Background Radiation). He does not understand the Big Bang was not a myth (as Gods are), it was properly defined, it obeys scientific laws, it is completely understandable and it has already been reproduced, on a very small scale. He somehow surpasses all of the facts in favor of his brainwashing fairy tale. He can not understand logic and he does not realize that cause and effect can not be a definite law since some things may except from the rule (radioactive decay, the big bang itself) because a cause has not yet been found, which turns cause and effect into an imperfect rule. He does not understand complexity, neither entropy and we can tell that just by the very own fact that he calls them 'scientific laws'. He does not understand that a God could not be proven based on the fact that cause and effect, entropy and complexity exist since all of these might (and might is the right term because of the exceptions) lead to the existence of a cause of the beginning, one that is undefined and unseen at the moment. He does not understand that because of our understanding of this universe (an understanding that works, it gets things going) science never mentions God as a possible first cause since there are an infinite more probable causes than this one. He does not understand that all religions have the same 'characteristics' of the Creator, they differ on the stories an are all man made and 90% they are historically erroneous which makes it all to seem a 'forgery' from the beginning. He does not understand that the age of our universe is an approximation, a very close one, not a theory and that it is a fact because the proofs have already been made, observations were clear, research was strongly done. All that Badecker can think of is that whatever the circumstances, God exists. No matter how hard the evidence would be, he would believe the same. That is a mental illness and a huge level of stupidity. The funny thing, the one that makes us not give a flying spit on his ideas, is that he doesn't even understand that he is stupid. Stay tuned for more, the chaotic retard will most surely come back with some new package for his own shit.
Ever won an argument with a decent, intelligent human being? Things change, the argument changes from his side, he thinks about it, even if he still sustains his idea, his argumentation will take new thinks into consideration. Try the same with dumb, stupid, idiotic people and it will go like this: no matter how evident your argument is, his argument will always stay the same. He can never realize the fallacy in his thinking so he will always believe he is right, never researching further. That is what is happening with our small retard, Badecker. His answers have a randomness, many times he does not answer to what you said but to what crosses his useless mind. But no matter how random his answer is, he will always keep claiming the same stupid shit, over and over again. For him, the big bang is not real. He can't really understand that the Big Bang has been scientifically observed, its traces have been seen, they completely match the theory. He does not understand that there was first a theory and a prediction of what they would find and they found exactly the same thing the theory contained (Background Radiation). He does not understand the Big Bang was not a myth (as Gods are), it was properly defined, it obeys scientific laws, it is completely understandable and it has already been reproduced, on a very small scale. He somehow surpasses all of the facts in favor of his brainwashing fairy tale. He can not understand logic and he does not realize that cause and effect can not be a definite law since some things may except from the rule (radioactive decay, the big bang itself) because a cause has not yet been found, which turns cause and effect into an imperfect rule. He does not understand complexity, neither entropy and we can tell that just by the very own fact that he calls them 'scientific laws'. He does not understand that a God could not be proven based on the fact that cause and effect, entropy and complexity exist since all of these might (and might is the right term because of the exceptions) lead to the existence of a cause of the beginning, one that is undefined and unseen at the moment. He does not understand that because of our understanding of this universe (an understanding that works, it gets things going) science never mentions God as a possible first cause since there are an infinite more probable causes than this one. He does not understand that all religions have the same 'characteristics' of the Creator, they differ on the stories an are all man made and 90% they are historically erroneous which makes it all to seem a 'forgery' from the beginning. He does not understand that the age of our universe is an approximation, a very close one, not a theory and that it is a fact because the proofs have already been made, observations were clear, research was strongly done. All that Badecker can think of is that whatever the circumstances, God exists. No matter how hard the evidence would be, he would believe the same. That is a mental illness and a huge level of stupidity. The funny thing, the one that makes us not give a flying spit on his ideas, is that he doesn't even understand that he is stupid. Stay tuned for more, the chaotic retard will most surely come back with some new package for his own shit.
LOL!
Did you write that before my last comment? Or did you start it as soon as you saw I was online?
The scientific laws of cause and effect, entropy, and complexity, when combined, not only prove that God exists, but also prove that there is no other way. Check out the summaries here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380,
and then research it to see for yourself.
HWW, your humor is simply too much
Ha ha ha ha ha ha
You still posting your links.
Have you ever asked yourself why noone else posts your links? Its because they prove nothing.
You are the only one who believes them.
That is why i laugh at you.
Thanks again for helping to spread the proof that God exists, by not rebutting the scientific proof found here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.
Romans 1:20:
Quote from: Romans 1:20
For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse.
Since Saint Paul shows the logical reason for understanding the existence of God, in this and other passages, why wouldn't there be scientific proof, as well?
See? Even the devil knows that God exists. And he is way more scientifically capable than the rest of us.
Badecker also shows that cause and effect doesn't prove God existence. Then he proceeds to say that the rest of his argument doesn't prove God either because it points to ''something'' but we can't really know what that something is and then he admits he believes in God from the bible purely on faith. Then he goes full retard or maybe he has double personality and keeps posting the same links that he said didn't prove God because nothing can really prove God and he is trying now to deny that he said it. Why? It's right here, we can all see it, we can see what he wrote, why would he try to deny it now? Is there an explanation besides him being mentally ill?
You are not being logical. I don't generally us science fiction quotes, but Spock says it well in Star Trek (2009): "If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable must be the truth."
The point is that, because of cause and effect, entropy, and complexity, even if big bang were fact, then big bang would be God. As it is, we don't know if BB is fact, but the three scientific laws and principles existing together as they do, point to a something which fits what God must be.
God exists, even though we don't know much about Him from science. The fact that He exists is a scientific fact, as well as an observational understanding... from simply observing the world.
Now that we can all see it again, why not understand it?
So going on BADecker's principle which is based on assumptions and not fact..... this is a banana.
It's yellow, and bent with folded down sides and it looks look a banana...... therefore it must be a banana.
NO dipshit.... it's a dog wearing a banana outfit.
wow so glad i brought this thread back from the dead last year
but i think we need more memes folks, liven the place up a little , these walls of text are making my poor little brain cell hurt.
So anyway here ya go folks...
a video of BADecker spouting his nonsense in person!!! comedy gold!
now you may ask, so why does BADecker never link to this retarded web page seeing how he parrots all the pious drivel the site spouts.
simple ...who'd wanna be exposed on bitcointalk for being an ignorant moron? (i know this place is full of em, but whatever...)
Sorry BADecker... aka Ken Ham, i just blew your cover!! lol
http://i.imgur.com/UrCSU2u.jpg
but i think we need more memes folks, liven the place up a little , these walls of text are making my poor little brain cell hurt.
So anyway here ya go folks...
a video of BADecker spouting his nonsense in person!!! comedy gold!
now you may ask, so why does BADecker never link to this retarded web page seeing how he parrots all the pious drivel the site spouts.
simple ...who'd wanna be exposed on bitcointalk for being an ignorant moron? (i know this place is full of em, but whatever...)
Sorry BADecker... aka Ken Ham, i just blew your cover!! lol
http://i.imgur.com/UrCSU2u.jpg
Is this really legit?? I mean is this really badecker?? And wait, are thos dvd's really for sale?? And how did you mange to identify that it is really him?? I mean that's just difficult. But not impossible tho. One last thing, if that is really him, isnt that a bit too much?? I mean that can cause him serious trolling and other things now that his real identity is known..
Is that all you jokers can do? All you can do is attempt to pick on BADecker. You can't really even begin to rebut cause and effect, entropy, and complexity. You can't even begin to rebut the scientific proof that God exists. Pick a point in the proof. Rebut even one point in simple concise language if you can.
You retards belong in a funny farm, right along with the FE people.
oh jeezus!!! i just had the best belly laugh i've had in years!
oh cmon now, aren't you like totally flattered that you could be mistaken for the likes of that
god fearin, bible lovin, evolution/science denying, character KEN HAM!!!
Come on dude...he built the Creation Museum! complete with dinosaurs and humans in the same time period and Noahs Ark and Adam and Eve!!... ROFLMFAO!!!
What does Ken Ham have to do with scientific proof that God exists?
I had thought that within the Bitcointalk forum there would be a few people who understood the difference between science and religion. But here you are, another one focusing on religion rather than science.
Don't any of you jokers know even enough basic science that you can talk science rather than religion?
Science.... yes https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19350390#msg19350390
Your pseudo science bullshit..... Pffffff
Thanks again for helping to spread the proof that God exists, by not rebutting the scientific proof found here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.
And in response also by BADecker is his own rebuttal of the points above.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088
Yes it is true.... he is delusional and suffers mental health conditions.
Just to show you how flawed your thinking is, the info your, above, link makes a distinction between knowing that God exits, and the fact that we don't really know what He is, even though we know that He exists.
Here you are, posting all kinds of stuff, and you can't even see that there is a difference between knowing that something exists, and not knowing what it is made out of.
However, thank you for your post. It shows how really ignorant you are. But your greatest ignorant part isn't simply being ignorant. Your true ignorance lies in the fact that you don't want to stop being ignorant.
Your link says you dont know what it is.... and you dont have the ability to fathom what it is.
That my furry little friend means your assumption of it being your god is flawed. You yourself have stated you do not have the ability to know.
Thank you for showing your delusional and this is purely your attempt to make your assumptions as fact.
Better luck next time.
wow so glad i brought this thread back from the dead last year
but i think we need more memes folks, liven the place up a little , these walls of text are making my poor little brain cell hurt.
So anyway here ya go folks...
a video of BADecker spouting his nonsense in person!!! comedy gold!
now you may ask, so why does BADecker never link to this retarded web page seeing how he parrots all the pious drivel the site spouts.
simple ...who'd wanna be exposed on bitcointalk for being an ignorant moron? (i know this place is full of em, but whatever...)
Sorry BADecker... aka Ken Ham, i just blew your cover!! lol
http://i.imgur.com/UrCSU2u.jpg
but i think we need more memes folks, liven the place up a little , these walls of text are making my poor little brain cell hurt.
So anyway here ya go folks...
a video of BADecker spouting his nonsense in person!!! comedy gold!
now you may ask, so why does BADecker never link to this retarded web page seeing how he parrots all the pious drivel the site spouts.
simple ...who'd wanna be exposed on bitcointalk for being an ignorant moron? (i know this place is full of em, but whatever...)
Sorry BADecker... aka Ken Ham, i just blew your cover!! lol
http://i.imgur.com/UrCSU2u.jpg
Is this really legit?? I mean is this really badecker?? And wait, are thos dvd's really for sale?? And how did you mange to identify that it is really him?? I mean that's just difficult. But not impossible tho. One last thing, if that is really him, isnt that a bit too much?? I mean that can cause him serious trolling and other things now that his real identity is known..
Is that all you jokers can do? All you can do is attempt to pick on BADecker. You can't really even begin to rebut cause and effect, entropy, and complexity. You can't even begin to rebut the scientific proof that God exists. Pick a point in the proof. Rebut even one point in simple concise language if you can.
You retards belong in a funny farm, right along with the FE people.
HA HA HA HA HA HA
Ladies and gentlemen, this is our little pet BADecker at his worst.
As can be seen above he is trying to play the victim. This is quite funny as due to his own words which can be found here: [/url] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088[/url] he admits that his god cannot be proven.
Poor little fella is really angry that his world has fallen apart.
His links have been disproven by others and himself and he now has nothing left apart from the victim stage.
C'mon little fella, pull yourself together. You are embarrassing yourself.
BTW: Can't wait for the next chapter. Going to be a laugh.
Thanks again for helping to spread the proof that God exists, by not rebutting the scientific proof found here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg10718395#msg10718395
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1355109.msg14047133#msg14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1054513.msg16803380#msg16803380.
And in response also by BADecker is his own rebuttal of the points above.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=737322.msg19455088#msg19455088
Yes it is true.... he is delusional and suffers mental health conditions.