Seized physicals, maybe?? (im thinking the recent young fat asian guy with glasses, whos name i cant remember and video i cant find, whos officially seized physical collection was flashed on screen for a second) ....which begs the question, what would US authorities do with these after they possibly peeled them?

Well, someone recently done just that with x6 series 2 Cas 25s....in the same block!
https://casasciustracker.com/?sort=10&flt0_balance_equals=0&flt1_type_equals=S2-COIN-25&page_size=100&desc=1

I suggest any prospective buyer to only use a trusted escrow like Minerjones on a transaction of this amount. Too risky otherwise.

From the buyer's perspective, I get it. But from the seller's perspective, it doesn't make sense to sell under face value, unless he knows it's been tampered with. And in that case, it makes no sense at all for the buyer to buy it. Long term, I wouldn't be surprised if loaded collectibles can't be sold anymore. There's no reason for the buyer to trust it if the seller accepts less than the loaded value, and there's no reason for a honest owner to accept less than the loaded value.

Any interest?

Only 20 of these made!!!

Somebody  try PM detector on their coins? Like Sigma Metalytics?

I own a pk silver Titan  coin so i do not really care if it is silver.
But gold coin bought from an individual with such a terrible feedback, mmmm i would be cautious and test it.

I was chatting with a lawyer in the EU who's familiar with this situation.  His words "Unfortunately I'm 99% sure that taking legal action is completely useless. The "damage" is relatively small and mostly for people outside of France, so this will definitely not be considered a priority.  And obviously the fact that it concerns crypto makes it even more complex.  There is no real legal framework, no customer protection legislation.  Also how in the earth is someone going to explain the concept of physical crypto to a French civil servant".

I just wanted to share.  I don't care if I see any money back from all this, I'd rather see others affected get it over wasting it trying to sue him.  My last thoughts on all this.

I knew there was an issue with credit cards purchasing crypto but whats the problem with debit cards? Debit card is whst you use on the exchange?

  For you to say that means quite alot!  LOL

   In all my years in crypto...I was able to acquire a silver 10 BTC redeemed one....and once came across a 10 BTC silver/gilt in very bad shape on ebay years ago. Since then its been pretty dead.