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Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels.
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t-nelson
on 02/11/2015, 21:02:02 UTC
This problem appears on really fast algos. I made the dup check for this reason when i wrote the blake algo.

The full range is scanned before we get a new job from the pool.... Now, what should we do in this case... Wait but users complains about the low GPU usage

You need to work on your marketing.  Smiley  Sell it as, "saving power when the network has no work available," or something.

The biggest mistake a FLOSS developer can make is letting users drive development.  99% of users don't have the skills, experience or insight to make development decisions.  This is a prime example of why.  Of course it is ideal to keep the GPUs pegged at 100% usage. But if there is nothing productive to do, then there is zero sense in burning the watts.

Do what's right and ignore the uninformed, baseless complaints.
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Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels.
by
t-nelson
on 22/10/2015, 21:37:52 UTC
I am posting this here, because so many mining software coders gathered in arguing, just in case you are not following us on twitter or did not see it mentioned on NiceHash.

To all ccminer, sgminer, cgminer coders, kernel tweakers and code optimizers, we have plenty of jobs available for you. Please, check them out here: https://www.nicehash.com/index.jsp?p=jobs

Heh, those bounties are a joke, right?  You guys probably ROI the lot of them in <24hrs.
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Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels.
by
t-nelson
on 08/10/2015, 23:18:20 UTC
Another offtopic question: what is your most profitable card to get depending on your region?
Edit: where I live it seems the 970 has kicked off the 750 Ti off its throne a while ago.
I think you know the answer. Why do you ask?
I'm mostly curious about the significance of regional differences. So should I wait for the 980/980Ti cards to decrease in price or should I just stuck with the prices I'm given.
Mine and dump etherum(the donut coin) with the slow public kernals... works everywhere, and still profitable....
Ethereum was only profitable for exactly 2 days for me and even then only on paper since I have windows rigs and Genoil's windows miner had (and probably still have) significant issues with the dagger file with 750 Ti cards.

Yes. you seem to have inside information. No 750ti card need to load the dagger file... I leave it to the hungry radeon farms. Free lunch

Insider?  https://devtalk.nvidia.com/default/topic/878455/cuda-programming-and-performance/gtx750ti-and-buffers-gt-1gb-on-win7/
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Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels.
by
t-nelson
on 07/10/2015, 18:37:27 UTC
There is another option. Sell the compiled gpu kernals in a binary format:
(Like wolf0's sgminer .bin files)

This will be linux compatible, and the user can use a modified ccminer without gpu-code.

No Licesence issues, if the kernals are written from scratch.. (They should if you want to optimize them)

-- SNIP--


Dynamically loading non-GPL code into GPL code is legal grey area.  Not that there's any precedent for any of this stuff.

It also does nothing to address the issue of the fee being removed.
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Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels.
by
t-nelson
on 07/10/2015, 18:00:14 UTC
OK you toy lawyers... I've been in FLOSS dev for over ten years and have plenty of experience with GPL compliance.

1) ccminer is hopelessly non-compliant.  The core code is GPLv2.  It links to some dependencies which are mostly LGPLv2 system libraries.  A few of the algo kernels are licensed MIT, BSD or Apache.  So far, so good.  Now there are a couple dozen kernels with no stated license whatsoever.  The sources being public does NOT make them open.  They default copyright to the original author.  Using them in any way, without written permission from the original author, leaves you open to legal action.  ccminer linking to them breaks GPL-compliance and distributing its binaries is illegal.

2) Just because someone uses GPL'd code in some private project does not give you any legal recourse towards them.  You have to legally obtain a binary release first.  It is perfectly fine to use GPL code in something you never release to the public.  It is perfectly legal to sell a binary release privately, so long as you give the customer some means to obtain the code for that release.  The sources need not be posted publicly by the original author.  They can be sent to the customer via email, on a USB stick, CD or even printed on 100,000 pages and mailed, etc.  Additionally, purchasing a binary only gives your rights the the sources used to build THAT release binary.  The author does not have to give you SCM history and you are not entitled to future release sources without legally obtaining said future release in binary form.

3) As a continuation to #2; Anyone who legally obtains the source code to a GPL compliant project has the right to do what they want with it within the GPL licensing framework.  This includes modification and redistribution, including to the public.

So as djm34 has been saying, adding a mining fee to ccminer is a lost cause.  Even if distributed privately, it only takes one person to exercise their GPL rights to obtain the code.  That person doesn't need to even know anything about code to publish it.  Next some will remove the mining fee and use it privately.  Eventually someone will remove the fee and release fee-less versions of the code.

Taking the opposite side of this argument is untenable.  You think people will morally sit back and pay that fee if they don't have to?  Bet your ass they won't.  I'd be the first one in line to obtain the sources and strip the fee for my own use.

The only solution is a completely new, closed source, fee-based miner with completely new kernels written in isolation from the specs.  The resulting binaries would further need to be copy protected to dissuade reverse-engineering and binary patching.  How many people do you think would trust that?
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Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels.
by
t-nelson
on 05/10/2015, 19:34:35 UTC
ASROCK H81 PRO MB and DUAL VIDEO--

A number of thread-followers have mentioned that they run rigs on ASROCK H81 PRO motherboards.  These boards support Intel CPU-Integrated graphics as well as a wide variety of graphic cards.  Is it possible to drive a monitor with integrated Intel video, and mine with nVidia graphics cards (750ti SC)?

I will research the web before booting my new H81 rig, but I'd like to know if it has been done by any one of the readers.

Thank you in advance!       --scryptr

I achieve this on Linux with the following xorg.conf
Code:
Section "Device"
    Identifier "intel0"
    Driver "intel"
    BusID "PCI:0@0:2:0"
    Option "AccelMethod" "SNA"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "Screen0"
    Device "intel0"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier "nvidia0"
    Driver "nvidia"
    BusID "PCI:1@0:0:0"
    Option "ConstrainCursor" "off"
    Option "CoolBits" "28"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "Screen1"
    Device "nvidia0"
    Option "AllowEmptyInitialConfiguration" "on"
    Option "IgnoreDisplayDevices" "CRT"
EndSection

Section "Device"
    Identifier "nvidia1"
    Driver "nvidia"
    BusID "PCI:2@0:0:0"
    Option "ConstrainCursor" "off"
    Option "CoolBits" "28"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
    Identifier "Screen2"
    Device "nvidia1"
    Option "AllowEmptyInitialConfiguration" "on"
    Option "IgnoreDisplayDevices" "CRT"
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier "layout"
    Screen 0 "Screen0"
    Screen 1 "Screen1"
    Screen 2 "Screen2"
#    Inactive "nvidia0"
#    Inactive "nvidia1"
EndSection

In the "ServerLayout" section, I have the nvidia cards assigned to screens to allow NVML to work.  It costs 18MB of VRAM to X, but I noticed no performance decrease.  It is simple enough to disable this by commenting screens 1 and 2 and uncommenting the "Inactive" lines for them.  You will lose temperature, fan speed, etc though.

EDIT:  On Ubuntu, you'll also need to disable "gpu-manager" or the dumb ass thing will overwrite your xorg.conf everytime you log in.  I just commented the entirety of /etc/init/gpu-manager.conf.  Allegedly, this also can be done by passing a kernel param in newer (than 14.04) versions.  Though I don't recall the name of said param.
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Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels.
by
t-nelson
on 02/10/2015, 20:52:56 UTC
hi

one question about compiling in win 7 with cuda 6.5

this messages are in the compiling log from vs 2013 community

1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(50): warning : variable "Htarg" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(51): warning : variable "coef" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(68): warning : variable "endianmid" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(73): warning : variable "nloop" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(50): warning : variable "Htarg" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(51): warning : variable "coef" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(68): warning : variable "endianmid" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(73): warning : variable "nloop" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(50): warning : variable "Htarg" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(51): warning : variable "coef" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(68): warning : variable "endianmid" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(73): warning : variable "nloop" was declared but never referenced
         ptxas info    : 0 bytes gmem
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(50): warning : variable "Htarg" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(51): warning : variable "coef" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(68): warning : variable "endianmid" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(73): warning : variable "nloop" was declared but never referenced

ist that normal

thanks for answer

C&P FTW, I suspect.

Unused variable warnings are innocuous either way.

i asked because i getting out of the new release only 9100 on lyra2v2 with djm version i was over 10k


Could be launch params changes in a recent commit.
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Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels.
by
t-nelson
on 02/10/2015, 19:49:15 UTC
hi

one question about compiling in win 7 with cuda 6.5

this messages are in the compiling log from vs 2013 community

1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(50): warning : variable "Htarg" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(51): warning : variable "coef" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(68): warning : variable "endianmid" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(73): warning : variable "nloop" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(50): warning : variable "Htarg" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(51): warning : variable "coef" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(68): warning : variable "endianmid" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(73): warning : variable "nloop" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(50): warning : variable "Htarg" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(51): warning : variable "coef" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(68): warning : variable "endianmid" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(73): warning : variable "nloop" was declared but never referenced
         ptxas info    : 0 bytes gmem
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(50): warning : variable "Htarg" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(51): warning : variable "coef" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(68): warning : variable "endianmid" was declared but never referenced
     1>C:/compile/ccminer-windows/bitcredit/bitcredit.cu(73): warning : variable "nloop" was declared but never referenced

ist that normal

thanks for answer

C&P FTW, I suspect.

Unused variable warnings are innocuous either way.
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Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels.
by
t-nelson
on 27/09/2015, 17:25:14 UTC
I'm not sure it matters how many ways to donate we have. Miners seem to be way better at complaining than donating.  I had my all of my GPUs pointed at broken soloing for nearly a week and have only received two donations (thanks again myagui and zTheWolfz!) since the fix went in.  That's despite there being at least a half dozen people on here complaining about the issue.  It really makes me wonder whether my time would be better spent fixing ccminer or teaming up with some of the kernel guys and doing something closed from scratch...

Sorry if it came across as a complaint was only noting it wasn't working and hadn't been for quite sometime.

Thanks for your hard work, more donations to come when I get more to spare.
A few GPU's where down for a day or so and set me back some.

Cheers

Not at all.  You actually sped things up by posting output.  It saved me waiting around on my piddly setup.  We're past even by my book. Smiley

2-BITS--

I sent you 2-bits.  And, thank you!  Please communicate with the neoscrypt wallet devs.  The wallet behavior is not normal.       --scryptr

Much appreciated, sir!

Which coins are you having wallet trouble with specifically? PhoenixCoin is fixed in their master branch, so should be OK whenever they cut a new release.  I opened an issue for FeatherCoin at https://github.com/FeatherCoin/Feathercoin/issues/77.  You can use the --broken-neo-wallet flag until they sort things out.


I also wanted to clarify that by "closed," I meant "closed source."  That is the only way to enforce something like a small fee.  Generally in open source I don't care about such things because, for someone else to monetize my work, they have to put in some effort on their own.  However, with a miner its just; start program, profit!

ORBITCOIN (ORB)--

And Feathercoin.  I attempted to use release dot 69 (prior to the wallet flag) with the wallet and it just sat there, no card hashing reports.  I then used DJM34's CCminer for NeoScrypt, with debugging on and quiet off, and got this:


Error messages when attempting to solo-mine with OrbitCoin wallet (NeoScrypt).

At that point I stopped attempting to solo-mine with NeoScrypt.  I'll wait for the compiled Windows release with the wallet flag.  I have compiled on Windows, but not for a while.

--scryptr

I've updated my previous post with what I've found regarding neoscrypt wallet status.  If you're having issues with one that's already fixed, then you need a newer version of the wallet.  That may require waiting for their devs to cut a release.  Of the two that are reported, I'd suggest posting in the GH issue thread links I've posted.

As for output, did you see zTheWolfz's post a while back?  Apparently that's how it's always worked.  It could be something in the kernel.
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Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels.
by
t-nelson
on 27/09/2015, 16:43:34 UTC
I'm not sure it matters how many ways to donate we have. Miners seem to be way better at complaining than donating.  I had my all of my GPUs pointed at broken soloing for nearly a week and have only received two donations (thanks again myagui and zTheWolfz!) since the fix went in.  That's despite there being at least a half dozen people on here complaining about the issue.  It really makes me wonder whether my time would be better spent fixing ccminer or teaming up with some of the kernel guys and doing something closed from scratch...

Sorry if it came across as a complaint was only noting it wasn't working and hadn't been for quite sometime.

Thanks for your hard work, more donations to come when I get more to spare.
A few GPU's where down for a day or so and set me back some.

Cheers

Not at all.  You actually sped things up by posting output.  It saved me waiting around on my piddly setup.  We're past even by my book. Smiley

2-BITS--

I sent you 2-bits.  And, thank you!  Please communicate with the neoscrypt wallet devs.  The wallet behavior is not normal.       --scryptr

Much appreciated, sir!

Which coins are you having wallet trouble with specifically? PhoenixCoin is fixed in their master branch, so should be OK whenever they cut a new release.  I opened an issue for FeatherCoin at here.  You can use the --broken-neo-wallet flag until they sort things out.


I also wanted to clarify that by "closed," I meant "closed source."  That is the only way to enforce something like a small fee.  Generally in open source I don't care about such things because, for someone else to monetize my work, they have to put in some effort on their own.  However, with a miner its just; start program, profit!

EDIT: I checked sources for Feather, Pheonix, Orbit, UFO and Halcyon.  They're all correct except for Feather, which I already reported and UFO, which I've reported here.
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Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels.
by
t-nelson
on 26/09/2015, 21:33:37 UTC
I'm not sure it matters how many ways to donate we have. Miners seem to be way better at complaining than donating.  I had my all of my GPUs pointed at broken soloing for nearly a week and have only received two donations (thanks again myagui and zTheWolfz!) since the fix went in.  That's despite there being at least a half dozen people on here complaining about the issue.  It really makes me wonder whether my time would be better spent fixing ccminer or teaming up with some of the kernel guys and doing something closed from scratch...

Sorry if it came across as a complaint was only noting it wasn't working and hadn't been for quite sometime.

Thanks for your hard work, more donations to come when I get more to spare.
A few GPU's where down for a day or so and set me back some.

Cheers

Not at all.  You actually sped things up by posting output.  It saved me waiting around on my piddly setup.  We're past even by my book. Smiley
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Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels.
by
t-nelson
on 26/09/2015, 19:30:50 UTC
Anybody knows a proper request to monitoring API, like IP:port and command (getsummary for ex) ? A remeber cgminer has
Code:
The JSON request format required is '{"command":"CMD","parameter":"PARAM"}'
but as i understand ccminer api dosn't support Json api request and answers.

ccminer has NO control API of any kind.  It's just a config/text log app.
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Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels.
by
t-nelson
on 26/09/2015, 19:25:33 UTC
It really makes me wonder whether my time would be better spent fixing ccminer or teaming up with some of the kernel guys and doing something closed from scratch...
It makes you wonder? Definitely the latter, you guys seems to have garages full of vidcards and cheap electricity. There is seriously no question.

More like a spare bedroom, one GTX960, one GTX750Ti and 0.10USD/kWh power.  Amateur at best.
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Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels.
by
t-nelson
on 26/09/2015, 06:23:26 UTC
I'm not sure it matters how many ways to donate we have. Miners seem to be way better at complaining than donating.  I had my all of my GPUs pointed at broken soloing for nearly a week and have only received two donations (thanks again myagui and zTheWolfz!) since the fix went in.  That's despite there being at least a half dozen people on here complaining about the issue.  It really makes me wonder whether my time would be better spent fixing ccminer or teaming up with some of the kernel guys and doing something closed from scratch...
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Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels.
by
t-nelson
on 25/09/2015, 17:42:29 UTC
I guess the solo problem is totally fixed. Found of DigitalcoinX11 block.

NeoScrypt--

There is suspicion that NeoScrypt algo is still not working.  It may be due to a problem that lies in the wallet.  I haven't been able to solo-mine FeatherCoin.  I will try another NeoScrypt coin, OrbitCoin, later today.

--scryptr

sp_ just merged my PR adding a new flag "--broken-neo-wallet" to work around the known issue of the malformed data parameter.  So that will be available in 70, whenever it's cut.  There may be some other problems though, as I never saw any GPU status updates after soloing PhoenixCoin for ~1hr.
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Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels.
by
t-nelson
on 25/09/2015, 05:06:05 UTC

Yeah we worked it out on IRC.  I'm 100% sure this needs fixed in the wallets, not the miner.  I'm willing to add it based on a non-default flag for the time being though.

THANK YOU!--

You may very well be right about the wallet.  I can get DJM34's CCminer launched, and communicate initially with the wallet, but I never get any card hash reports, only an initial blue neoscrypt block number report to the console.  With sp_'s CCminer, I cannot even get that far, just a red error message.

--scryptr

https://github.com/sp-hash/ccminer/pull/57


Not sure this would be of any help, but this version of cgminer 3.7.8 works with all cards I have tested so far. From GTX260 up to GTX960.
http://cryptomining-blog.com/3715-new-cgminer-3-7-8-with-improved-neoscrypt-performance/
Only problem is the slow hashrate it gives, max is 80kh/s for a 960  Shocked around 35kh/s on a 760 and 80kh/a on AMD R270 non X model OCed. 1100/1450


That'd likely have to be on someone else's plate.  My CUDA chops are noob at best and will remain that way until I'm happy with core code.

EDIT: This dumbass forum needs markup syntax checking...
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Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels.
by
t-nelson
on 24/09/2015, 23:14:43 UTC
who here can confirm any working miner for lyra2v2 algo coin solo-mining?

LAUNCHED--

-- SNIP --

GTX 960 SSC on Win 7 x64 solo-mining VTC

I just launched my GTX 960 against my VertCoin (VTC) wallet.  I am getting card-hash reports, but no VTC block number reports (blue), at least not yet.  I need to do stuff, I'll check back in a while.  The card is hashing, like before the fix.  6.1Mh/s, it will take a while for a block.       --scryptr

IIRC the blue text is only for stratum info.  You're soloing, so no stratum.  You'll only see GPU report at the end of a round and accept/reject.  Just let it run Smiley
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Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels.
by
t-nelson
on 24/09/2015, 23:12:34 UTC

Yeah we worked it out on IRC.  I'm 100% sure this needs fixed in the wallets, not the miner.  I'm willing to add it based on a non-default flag for the time being though.

THANK YOU!--

You may very well be right about the wallet.  I can get DJM34's CCminer launched, and communicate initially with the wallet, but I never get any card hash reports, only an initial blue neoscrypt block number report to the console.  With sp_'s CCminer, I cannot even get that far, just a red error message.

--scryptr

https://github.com/sp-hash/ccminer/pull/57
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Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels.
by
t-nelson
on 24/09/2015, 22:36:59 UTC

Yeah we worked it out on IRC.  I'm 100% sure this needs fixed in the wallets, not the miner.  I'm willing to add it based on a non-default flag for the time being though.
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Re: CCminer(SP-MOD) Modded NVIDIA Maxwell kernels.
by
t-nelson
on 24/09/2015, 17:23:33 UTC
where do you see these "git numbers" ? git is not svn...
It is from github at the very top of the page where it says "#### commits ## branches ## releases ..." an example would be from your fork "git 566" is "commit fade2b74".  And yes it is very confusing.  Wink

COMMIT NUMBERS--

I usually refer to commits/builds by the commit number.  It is at the upper left of the page.  Commit numbers are sequential.  The do not, however, help with git "checkout" commands, like the hash value on the upper right.  I still do not understand git checkout syntax well, but I use the commit number when referring to a specific build between releases while posting.

--scryptr

To clarify, that is the commit count, not an index, and is a GitHub feature, nothing to do with git.  This number is mostly useless as it can be invalidated in a number of ways.  With git, generally we refer to a commit by the first 7 chars of the sha1 hash.

Example:
r69 -> 989737b6a5149f1539fa6783106dd755ebeaeb7c -> 989737b

THANKS FOR CLARIFICATION--

I use the commit number for its value as an index.  I apprecate the information, I know that the programmer needs a specific point to grab the code.  The reader needs a sequential number to see about where the stuff is between releases.

--scryptr

P.S.  I think solo-mining is still broken with NeoScrypt.       --scryptr

Do what you want, but so far as historical record goes, it's completely useless.  I could squash the entire git history to 1 commit and that counter would go back to 1.  Or rebase away some commits in the middle and reduce it by 500.  Anyone who reads that number in the future may or may not wind up looking at the same commit (nevermind the fact that you'll have to manually count commits to find it).  IMO, making up your own nomenclature only serves to confuse anyone trying to help themselves and thus is a detriment to the community.  The SHA1 is right there to c/p.