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Re: ponzigame.pw | 140% Return | + 30 BTC payment | No list of reset all receive
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the_game1224
on 14/01/2015, 15:03:34 UTC
Maybe the 1.4BTC belongs to him!  I can't see anyone else complaining about it, my 0.05 was also skipped

No it is mine. 
Address 1EVssmccqXYLyKmCpxYPzdnM8jibBGRY1T

Pm'd him a day and a half ago and he told me that I needed to stay calm and he was going to start going down the list in order.
I haven't posted since then to give him a chance to make good on his word. That hasn't happened.

There is enough balance to pay me now and I will update this post when I am paid.
Until he makes this right he is nothing more than a liar.


Well i hope you get paid, and i totally agree that payments should be in the listed order. I think this guy runs a few Ponzi's. I've had a good look around and think he might own this one also http://btc-pyramid.com

Ok so he just pulled a total scum move and has updated the website to say that I was paid yet I was not as you can see from the blockchain.
https://blockchain.info/address/1QB5cSvnWFQiEUV6ojx6sYEFkeRYKNFmBx

If he makes this right I will update to say so.




Wow that is bad. Angry
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Re: ponzigame.pw | 140% Return | + 30 BTC payment | No list of reset all receive
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the_game1224
on 14/01/2015, 13:23:13 UTC
Seeing lots of action in the blockchain but the 1.4BTC has still not been paid out.
What is going on OP seems pretty dishonest to not pay the 1.4BTC to that investor first.

Also my .07 payout was skipped over

Here is the link if you want to watch and see the balance
https://blockchain.info/address/1QB5cSvnWFQiEUV6ojx6sYEFkeRYKNFmBx

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Re: ponzigame.pw | 140% Return | + 30 BTC payment | No list of reset all receive
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the_game1224
on 14/01/2015, 13:22:36 UTC
Seeing lots of action in the blockchain but the 1.4BTC has still not been paid out.
What is going on OP seems pretty dishonest to not pay the 1.4BTC to that investor first.

Also my .07 payout was skipped over
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Re: ponzigame.pw | 140% Return | 30 BTC payment | No list of reset all receive
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the_game1224
on 13/01/2015, 20:34:23 UTC
My doge investment never showed up - nor paid (yet)
tx id: 4b6d7d9bda582150b88862392200de9a3d9b5d880e68636577ecaa78f12c4f3c

Hello friend send me a PM with your address dogecoin I'll check and found error sending already do.

I got them, thanks!  Cool

Creede I found your deposit in dogecoin and performed his payment now.

Had another deposit in dogecoin 220 Doge, as the minimum value of deposit and 20,000 Doge this amount was returned to the address you sent.

Crap I didnt even realize you could do doge too  Cheesy
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Re: ponzigame.pw | 140% Return | 30 BTC payment | No list of reset all receive
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the_game1224
on 13/01/2015, 19:23:44 UTC
Goodmornig on blockchain ( https://blockchain.info/address/1QB5cSvnWFQiEUV6ojx6sYEFkeRYKNFmBx)
I see a Final Balance of 1.61080162 BTC is that right ?

That's what I see for a final balance.  Isn't that enough to pay out the 1.4BTC and get things moving again?
I think maybe people are waiting to see if that gets paid out before depositing again?

To answer your doubts. Why worry about all depositors and especially those applicants. I want to pay not only the 1.4 BTC, but also smaller too. Even why taking two big investors, we see that are the ones that make smaller deposits that are keeping the turnover of the site.
As this explained the due date varies by the amount of deposits being made, if we are getting somewhere around 2-3 BTC time each payment would not take more than 15-20 minutes with the new maximum of 0.5BTC of deposit. What I see and that a great competition of ponzis, and I repeat it or not automated it makes no difference. I follow the other pages and I see big problems and delays even getting many deposits and volume.

Thank you for the answer.
The problem is if you are going to not pay whoever the 1.4BTC in the order it should have been who is to say that you will not choose to skip over my .07BTC payment when its my order in the queue?
Also those big depositors make it so you can pay a lot more people so for you to skip paying them and pay others does not encourage other big depositors to join in.  
Do you understand how this is really bad?
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Re: ponzigame.pw | 140% Return | + 30 BTC payment | No list of reset all receive
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the_game1224
on 13/01/2015, 18:41:32 UTC
He's been banned for 5 days.
Anyway i've been paid out. This is a good ponzi and the admin is very helpful . Keep supporting it I am Smiley

Anyone know why he hasn't paid out even though there are enough funds available (1.6BTC) to cover the next payout (1.4BTC)??
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Re: ponzigame.pw | 140% Return | + 30 BTC payment | No list of reset all receive
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the_game1224
on 13/01/2015, 15:13:07 UTC
Goodmornig on blockchain ( https://blockchain.info/address/1QB5cSvnWFQiEUV6ojx6sYEFkeRYKNFmBx)
I see a Final Balance of 1.61080162 BTC is that right ?

That's what I see for a final balance.  Isn't that enough to pay out the 1.4BTC and get things moving again?
I think maybe people are waiting to see if that gets paid out before depositing again?
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Re: ponzigame.pw | 140% Return | Bitcoin and Dogecoin |30 BTC Volume | 1% Referral
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the_game1224
on 13/01/2015, 04:07:04 UTC
For some who are asking when will be made the next round of payments. We need more 0.7 BTC and we will do the rest of the outstanding payments. After this the other payments will be faster because they are smaller amounts and I decrease the maximum that can be invested at a time.
We also have the problem of having many similar schemes and some say are automated and thereby being polls.
False information makes no difference if there is no balance you can spend 2-3 days with money stuck to mention here that you know they are being paid. With the other we do not know the situation. WeeklyPonzi came to pass more than 2 days without pay and the NextPonzi this a few hours in the same situation and also will reset the list ie who was not paid lost.

How many confirmations do you require before you pay out those funds? 

OP PM'd me with an answer really quick, waits 3 confirms.  For those that don't know I was worried because I saw some other sites paying without confirming the funds risking a double spend
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Re: ponzigame.pw | 140% Return | Bitcoin and Dogecoin |30 BTC Volume | 1% Referral
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the_game1224
on 13/01/2015, 03:10:08 UTC
For some who are asking when will be made the next round of payments. We need more 0.7 BTC and we will do the rest of the outstanding payments. After this the other payments will be faster because they are smaller amounts and I decrease the maximum that can be invested at a time.
We also have the problem of having many similar schemes and some say are automated and thereby being polls.
False information makes no difference if there is no balance you can spend 2-3 days with money stuck to mention here that you know they are being paid. With the other we do not know the situation. WeeklyPonzi came to pass more than 2 days without pay and the NextPonzi this a few hours in the same situation and also will reset the list ie who was not paid lost.

How many confirmations do you require before you pay out those funds? 
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Re: ponzigame.pw | 140% Return | Bitcoin and Dogecoin |30 BTC Volume | 1% Referral
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the_game1224
on 13/01/2015, 02:39:05 UTC
Sometimes the payments are a little slow but it works.
I've made 5 successful trades so far.

You've been paid 5 times already? 
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Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
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the_game1224
on 01/12/2014, 18:26:30 UTC
What's interesting to me is how they've moved PayCoin from a cool, sexy idea that had a lot of appeal, but also a lot of experimental components, into one that's not very innovative, but much more likely to be functional out of the gate.

I thought the initial idea was pretty slick, with the tiered system and blockchain compression for the lowest tier of miners. The whole thing looked like something that could actually pull off nearly instant transactions without the blockchain overload for new miners and wallet holders. A lot of that was very new, however, and probably wouldn't have worked perfectly right away.

Now, it's a PoS coin that can support different kinds of value transfers. They could really just clone the NXT codebase with a minor tweak and come up with something that matches the new description. The big difference between PayCoin and NXT is the large fund providing price support. That's really critical. Instead of giving new functionality as well as price support, they're now counting on just price support to pull in consumers and merchants. That's a big advantage, but there isn't the level of new tech they first described.

I'll stick with it for now. Price support is a big deal. But I sure felt a lot better supporting actual innovation, too.

So how can we know anything about that price support? Have you seen any details on where the money came from or that they actually exists?

So far I have only seen claims of 100M$ investments, I have a hard time believing that

a) Big investors would have put big money into this without any solid plans, as so far the plans on this project change daily and according to what people are asking for on hashtalk

b) Why have none of those investors come out in the public to "hype" this project? It should be in their best interest to get as many as possible on board.

c) Why would those investors let us small timers make a 100% guaranteed 500% profit on the money you put in? With this I am referring to the hypothesis that mining 400 hashpoints costs 4 $ today, that you can sell into the buy-wall for 20$

My take on this is, if it sounds too good to be true....

a)  Yep no investor with $100M to invest would give that money without solid plans and any major change in those solid plans would likely spook them. 
b)  I'll give them this one.  IF there actually are investors I can see a quiet phase now since in the public's eye paycoin is not actually anything more than a few webpages and forum posts as of now.
c)  This is the biggest red flag to me.  As the plans continue to change and the delays stack up more and more people have no intentions other than to dump their paycoin earned from hashpoints ASAP.  I don't see them being able to handle the dump that would occur if they put up that buy wall.

Its exactly as you said and as I tell everyone I know,  if it sounds to good to be true....it is.


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Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
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the_game1224
on 24/11/2014, 17:05:06 UTC

The point still stands though. If 30% of the "average" people that have received no mining income in the last few months decides they want to actually break even, then that is an $80 hit to the market.

Personally, I think a 400% profit in 4 weeks is quite generous. Unbelievable so (clearly). You are really going to hold out for that extra 5% per year or the hope that Paycoin keeps going up?

That is exactly what concerns me.  People have been "mining" with the impression that 400HP=1HC=$20 all while taking no other profits at the same time.
Sure it may be valued at $20 when first released to the public, however do you really think they are going to let everyone who wants to sell at that price do so with a buy wall to keep that value?
Not a chance.  Hope I'm wrong but I will be shocked.
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Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
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the_game1224
on 21/11/2014, 20:58:08 UTC
What are your thoughts on the current state of GAW/Paycoin?

It's already been proven many times that I cannot share my complete thoughts because people come running with pitchforks and accusations from one end or GAW coming at me from the other end. So, I mostly just keep to myself these days. I will say this though... Even if I don't like everything about it, or the way it's being handled, I believe that PayCoin will be successful because Josh is determined to make it successful.

Yeah I honestly didn't figure you were in a position to share what you really think but figured I'd ask.  Thanks.

Yes he is determined to make it successful.  However having said that, the question is does he have the ability to pull it off and is there truly room in the market for it or is the hype all false?
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Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
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the_game1224
on 21/11/2014, 20:45:16 UTC
Is this a name change on Top 10 Prime Users, getting ready to dump??

10   Top10Finally   3852.00 MH

Its funny when volder started selling primes, a lot of others started selling too then the next day an announcement was made and the price of primes went up (he didn't sell 1 because people panicked and started selling for less)

Well.. it's common knowledge Volder uses insider knowledge for financial gain. Most likely what he did was induce panic selling to pick up cheap accounts.

Funny story, you guys give me too much credit. When the market came out the same/next day, people sold for WAY cheaper anyways. So this makes no sense. I was really trying to sell my account because I wanted the capital for another business venture, but didn't feel it was necessary to explain that at the time.

I used to know quite a bit, however Josh and I don't talk AT ALL anymore and haven't for some time. I've also NEVER gained financially from any knowledge about GAW. Most of the stuff I knew about was from ideas that I created for GAW. There is a lot of stuff that I've done behind the scenes that nobody knows about to help the community grow, as a whole, and I have never taken credit for it.

I'm glad that I'm no longer in the Top 10. I shouldn't have let people know I was there in the first place. Some people are a bit too stalker(ish) and creepy. Now I can buy/sell the way I want to without people watching what I'm doing.


What are your thoughts on the current state of GAW/Paycoin?
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Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
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the_game1224
on 21/11/2014, 18:14:30 UTC
That's bad and the hashtalk strict censoring is perhaps one of the biggest red flags IMO.  
As of late anyone who provides any constructive criticism, asks a legitimate question (such as yourself) or lets just call it what it is, isnt a GAW cheerleader is banned/shadow banned or has their comments deleted.

Listen even though we all have our suspicions nobody truly knows if this whole "Paycoin" campaign is legit or not.
-It could be the next big thing.
-It could be a great idea but ruined by incompetence/arrogance (most likely in my opinion)
-It could be a huge scam.

But when you censor anyone who provides any sort of doubt or raises legit questions it screams stay away or get the hell out while you can.
 

It actually is not a red flag, at least to me. The forum is not a requirement, only an option and you have to know and accept their rules when going there.
If you don't like the restriction you can use it to read the announcements and don't have to write anything.

What if I made a forum that had in the rules "posting pictures is not allowed" and you started arguing that all other forums allow it and I banned you for it? Would that be my fault or your fault? Cheesy

You don't think addressing your customers concerns by removing their posts is a red flag? 
Does it say in their rules that you must agree 100% with what they are doing and never question anything?

I'm not talking about people who are just blasting GAW or are doing nothing but trying to spread FUD.  Yes those type of posts need to go. 
I am talking about people with legitimate concerns who are voicing them in a constructive manner and their posts are being deleted or their are banned.
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Re: GAW Zen Hashlet PayCoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
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the_game1224
on 21/11/2014, 17:13:07 UTC

  • I never heard of a company that needs to silence their customers, there must be something seriously wrong with the company to have to do that. - There is plenty of criticism levelled at Josh and how he runs the business at hashtalk, however, the people that are disrespectful and resort to using terms that are accusatory of crimes aren't allowed (it's posted in the rules of the forum). If you do that, you're banned, generally. The hashtalk forums are owned by GAW, so you play by the rules they state when you are there. I don't see a problem with that. If you want to post accusatory stuff you have these forums to do so without being banned.


Man..I was shadow banned by Josh for asking if it was CNN or CCN or both since he made a typo. I've been a member of this community for a few months and always helped people out there, reported bugs instead of abusing it, made translations of his announcement for the people who don't speak english..and now i get slapped in the face.. Not fair if you ask me.



That's bad and the hashtalk strict censoring is perhaps one of the biggest red flags IMO. 
As of late anyone who provides any constructive criticism, asks a legitimate question (such as yourself) or lets just call it what it is, isnt a GAW cheerleader is banned/shadow banned or has their comments deleted.

Listen even though we all have our suspicions nobody truly knows if this whole "Paycoin" campaign is legit or not.
-It could be the next big thing.
-It could be a great idea but ruined by incompetence/arrogance (most likely in my opinion)
-It could be a huge scam.

But when you censor anyone who provides any sort of doubt or raises legit questions it screams stay away or get the hell out while you can.
 
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Re: GAW Zen Hashlet Hashcoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
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the_game1224
on 17/11/2014, 16:32:17 UTC
This.   I love how market cap numbers are just being thrown around like they are something you can just create and maintain out of thin air.

Which reminds me: https://twitter.com/gawceo/status/533476714928951296

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It's going to be much easier to manage the market cap of a coin then pools and hardware



Boy is he in for a rude awakening when the market goes live
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Re: GAW Zen Hashlet Hashcoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
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the_game1224
on 17/11/2014, 16:17:22 UTC
Let's get this straight.

Satoshi works on bitcoin code since sometime in 2007 and releases bitcoin live in early 2009.  It takes a to mid 2010 for coins to be worth more than electricity cost to generate them.  Almost 6 years into bitcoin, bitcoin has a market cap of $5 billion.  The bitcoin code is validated and updated by a decentralized community.

Josh / GAW creates a 'Hashcoin' in the last few months, it solves no major problem but to generate 'value' for the people creating hashcoins.  The code is unknown.  The whitepaper is being changed almost daily.  Hashcoin is suppose to go live in a few weeks with 'major companies' accepting it and giving Hashcoin a market cap of a few hundred million to few billion.


This.   I love how market cap numbers are just being thrown around like they are something you can just create and maintain out of thin air.

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Re: GAW Zen Hashlet Hashcoin unofficial uncensored discussion. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
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the_game1224
on 17/11/2014, 13:22:41 UTC
Looking at the hash market seems people are finally catching on that he may be full of it and tired of unfulfilled promises.
Previously when he made an announcement such as this primes would go over $50.  This time they are low $40s and many more were placed for sale.

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Re: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :-)
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the_game1224
on 05/11/2014, 21:38:20 UTC
If you were GAW and the intention was to run a large Ponzi, wouldn't you keep inflating the payouts and charging $49.95 per MH for Prime? Instead they discontinued selling Hashlets for now. Certainly all our questions will be answered in the next month. Do they have the partners they claim? Will Hashcoin launch with the value they are predicting? It certainly is going to be entertaining to watch.

Stopping hashlet sales (not just Primes; you can't buy any new hashlets on ZenCloud although Solos might be available from gawminers.com) is a bit puzzling, but it might make sense depending on how active the Market is. Selling new hashlets would require them to spend more and more on daily payouts and/or add more hardware - depending on how you imagine their business model - whereas in the current situation they can take 10% of all Market sales without increasing anything in their backend. And the best part is that the 10% comes in the form of cash (BTC), while daily payouts are being forced into HP.

Yep, GAWs best bet to keep increasing revenue at this point is try to drive the market prices and trading activity up........