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In the cases where I found the maximum amount of private keys supported, I display it like "YES (3)". For example, Keystone 3 Pro.
I think we are talking about two different things, and I was talking about multiple seed phrases, not about multiple private keys.If I am not mistaken Coldcard devices can only store one seed phrase at the time.
Keystone can store 3 seed phrases in the same time on one device, and Era up to 10 seed phrases.
Maybe you wanted to combine multiple private keys and multiple seed phrases into one category, but this can create confusion.
But a seed phrase is a representation of a private key. You only need to know how many private keys can store a wallet, and that is what I am showing on "Multiple Private Keys" row. I don't have a Multiple Seed Phrases row.
Coldcard can store multiple private keys (or seed phrases) in the SeedVault.
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There is section like you said, but it is only written YES or NO, so we don't know exact numbers of seeds that can be stored devices, or at least I couldn't find that information.
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In the cases where I found the maximum amount of private keys supported, I display it like "YES (3)". For example, Keystone 3 Pro.
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In the cases where I found the maximum amount of private keys supported, I display it like "YES (3)". For example, Keystone 3 Pro.
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OP Can you consider adding information for number of seed phrases that can be stored in each hardware wallet?
For example Keystone HW can store up to 3 seed phrases, Era Wallet can store up to 10 seed phrases, etc.
For example Keystone HW can store up to 3 seed phrases, Era Wallet can store up to 10 seed phrases, etc.
There is a "Multiple Private Keys" section where you can see that information
Added Ellipal X Card
How about adding Keycard and Keycard Shell hardware wallet?They created a topic in forum few weeks ago and they are offering interesting open source products, especially Keycard Shell that recently started pre-order sale:
https://keycard.tech/keycard
https://keycard.tech/keycard-shell
Interesting origin story for Keystone Shell, from concept to prototype:
https://keycard.tech/blog/keycard-origins-shells-design-journey-from-concept-to-prototype
Thanks. I added it. Still waiting a response from the team to fill the missing info.
Earlier in the month, OneKey released a battery-free version of OneKey Classic 1S and they're calling it "OneKey Classic 1S Pure".
- Apart from being $20 cheaper and lighter due to a lack of a battery, there's no difference between the two.
Last month, ELLIPAL released "X Card Cold Wallet" for $79 [pre-order price is $69].
- Apart from the card itself, I believe the package comes with another device that'll handle the offline generation of the seed phrase.
- Apart from being $20 cheaper and lighter due to a lack of a battery, there's no difference between the two.
Last month, ELLIPAL released "X Card Cold Wallet" for $79 [pre-order price is $69].
- Apart from the card itself, I believe the package comes with another device that'll handle the offline generation of the seed phrase.
Added Ellipal X Card
Earlier in the month, OneKey released a battery-free version of OneKey Classic 1S and they're calling it "OneKey Classic 1S Pure".
- Apart from being $20 cheaper and lighter due to a lack of a battery, there's no difference between the two.
Last month, ELLIPAL released "X Card Cold Wallet" for $79 [pre-order price is $69].
- Apart from the card itself, I believe the package comes with another device that'll handle the offline generation of the seed phrase.
- Apart from being $20 cheaper and lighter due to a lack of a battery, there's no difference between the two.
Last month, ELLIPAL released "X Card Cold Wallet" for $79 [pre-order price is $69].
- Apart from the card itself, I believe the package comes with another device that'll handle the offline generation of the seed phrase.
Thanks. I added Onekey new wallet. Working to add Ellipal one.
Re: Why isn’t there a hardware wallet that can be used independently?
If you buy a hardware wallet and connect it to their official companion software, you are trusting 100% in a single company. Instead, you can improve your security, and reduce your trust in a single company by using a third-party open-source wallet instead of the official one.
So, having a single device, as you suggest, is a very bad idea. You would be trusting 100% in a vendor.
The secure setup is:
* Create the transaction in an open source thirdparty software wallet
* Send the transaction to your Hardware Wallet, in an airgapped medium, like QR or sdcard
* Review and sign the transaction on the Hardware Wallet
* Send back the transaction (now signed) to the software wallet (with QR or sdcard)
* Broadcast the transaction
So, having a single device, as you suggest, is a very bad idea. You would be trusting 100% in a vendor.
The secure setup is:
* Create the transaction in an open source thirdparty software wallet
* Send the transaction to your Hardware Wallet, in an airgapped medium, like QR or sdcard
* Review and sign the transaction on the Hardware Wallet
* Send back the transaction (now signed) to the software wallet (with QR or sdcard)
* Broadcast the transaction
I think I don't need to update the website, because the website is bitcoin oriented, and the important firmware is the bitcoin-only one. The new one is similar to the altcoin firmware for the website focus.
No problem, but than why do you have separate devices listed for multi-coin Trezor Safe 3, Trezor Safe 5 and Bitbox multi-coin?In Keystone information you listed both Altcoins and Bitcoin-Only with YES, that can be confusing.
I don't care about bunch of altcoins, but people should know they can use Keystone with Bitcoin-only firmware if they want.
Maybe Keystone should also sell separate Keystone Bitcoin device directly preloaded with bitcoin-only firmware and design.
Trezor and Bitbox sell BTC only devices as a different product. Keystone only sell one variant and then you can pick the firmware to install. That's the difference. The website is displaying a column per physical device, not per firmware variant.
On the firmware section you can see if the device supports a btc only firmware. The table doesn't have support to display all the firmware variants, and for I prefer to do not support that, because I am focusing on btc only.
Maybe you should also consider adding and/or updating something for Keystone 3 pro, since now they have 3 options for firmware,
BTC-Only, Multi-Coin, and they recently added privacy oriented Cypherpunk firmware that supports Bitcoin and privacy coins like Monero.
I think I don't need to update the website, because the website is bitcoin oriented, and the important firmware is the bitcoin-only one. The new one is similar to the altcoin firmware for the website focus.BTC-Only, Multi-Coin, and they recently added privacy oriented Cypherpunk firmware that supports Bitcoin and privacy coins like Monero.
Do you by any chance know any bitcoin wallets that work for smartwatches, or bitcoin hardware wallet in watch format?
I don't know any smartwatch wallet. I think it would be a very bad idea, like the Tangem Ring.Good point. Given that the price is different, I added a new column for the Metal variant. Thanks !!!
Another hardware wallet Era was recently released and I don't see it on TheBitcoinHole website.I think this is interesting competition for currently established hardware wallets, and I want to see someone doing honest review and testing of Era.
I think 2025 is going to be the year of Great Airgapped Wallet Battle
Working on it.
Hi thebitcoinhole.
I saw you already added Jade Plus device in your list of hardware wallets, but you might need to make one small correction.
Blockstream is offering two sets of materials for Jade Plus, once is made from metal is more expensive, and cheaper version is made from plastic.
Maybe you can correct it to Plastic/Metal for Jade Plus, or simething like that.
I saw you already added Jade Plus device in your list of hardware wallets, but you might need to make one small correction.
Blockstream is offering two sets of materials for Jade Plus, once is made from metal is more expensive, and cheaper version is made from plastic.
Maybe you can correct it to Plastic/Metal for Jade Plus, or simething like that.
Good point. Given that the price is different, I added a new column for the Metal variant. Thanks !!!
Re: Ashigaru, a fork of Samourai Wallet, has now been released
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Good work !!! Congratulations.
We added it to our software wallets comparison: https://thebitcoinhole.com/software-wallets
We added it to our software wallets comparison: https://thebitcoinhole.com/software-wallets
Re: 22 Bitcoin Software Wallets, compared feature by feature
@thebitcoinhole can you add another column on your website for wallets that support Taproot Multi-sig?
One forum member asked this question and I am not sure what wallet support that (both software and hardware).
Thanks in advance.
One forum member asked this question and I am not sure what wallet support that (both software and hardware).
Thanks in advance.
Hi, not sure if I am following you. We already have taproot and multisig rows on software and hardware wallets comparisons. What do you exactly need?
Added Deterministic nonces (RFC6979) support to the Hardware Wallets comparison.
Good catch. Thanks. I will take a look
I think that you are missing the new SecuX hardware wallets Neo and NeoGold from thebitcoinhole website.This new devices have similar design like older SecuX Nifty devices, but I think they are cheaper, especially SecuX Neo.
Maybe they have other differences but I didnt compare them in details, I just know they use the same secure element.
https://secuxtech.com/products/neo-series
Not sure if all the SecuX Neo wallets data is correct, not too much information on the official page. Still not clear for me the differences with the Nifty
@maxirosson
I just noticed something with the site that I haven't seen before or paid attention to. So, you can navigate between the different hardware wallet brands left and right by using the two arrows (<>) at the top right. You can also click and drag your mouse left and right on the different images of HWs. The problem is, when you release the mouse button, the page redirects to the hardware wallet you left your cursor on.
Maybe this is something you can take a look at and change for an even better user experience with the site.
I just noticed something with the site that I haven't seen before or paid attention to. So, you can navigate between the different hardware wallet brands left and right by using the two arrows (<>) at the top right. You can also click and drag your mouse left and right on the different images of HWs. The problem is, when you release the mouse button, the page redirects to the hardware wallet you left your cursor on.
Maybe this is something you can take a look at and change for an even better user experience with the site.
Good catch. Thanks. I will take a look
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New Trezor Safe 5 announced. Already listed on our website comparing 58 different Hardware Wallets.
Some Highlights:
- Touch and bigger screen with Gorilla Glass
- Secure Element
- BTC Only variant
https://thebitcoinhole.com/hardware-wallets
Some Highlights:
- Touch and bigger screen with Gorilla Glass
- Secure Element
- BTC Only variant
https://thebitcoinhole.com/hardware-wallets
Yes, I saw the Trezor discount after my post, but not added it because the discount wasn't for a HW.
Thanks for the bug report !!!.
There weren't any when Maxi made that comment [I double-checked to make sure he didn't miss any].
@thebitcoinhole
There's a minor bug on the table that whenever I scroll down, it changes some or all of the active links [beneath the fixed row] in either the first, second, or both of the first two rows into inactive links: Screencast
- Tested in Chrome and Firefox.
Thanks for the bug report !!!.
Pizza Day Discounts
Nothing from Trezor and legder?@thebitcoinhole
There's a minor bug on the table that whenever I scroll down, it changes some or all of the active links [beneath the fixed row] in either the first, second, or both of the first two rows into inactive links: Screencast
- Tested in Chrome and Firefox.