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I confirm its a fucking scam i cant even take my 3% of the day
On the first page of the website https://trustcapital.ltd/home you can see the cash in, its accruate i saw my name yesterday, poor guys some are putting 5 BTC in it
The cash out are fake in reality
On the first page of the website https://trustcapital.ltd/home you can see the cash in, its accruate i saw my name yesterday, poor guys some are putting 5 BTC in it
The cash out are fake in reality
Re: [SCAM] trustcapital.ltd - Ponzi scheme and Plagiarized content
@Slow death, yes, normally i can withdraw tonight the 3% everyday, so i will not wait to have the capital now i knwo its a scam
@stompix
Thank you, the patent its a golf club, i am so stupid, i should have checked this
I suppose they are the golf club and i am the ball
@stompix
Thank you, the patent its a golf club, i am so stupid, i should have checked this
I suppose they are the golf club and i am the ball
Re: [SCAM] trustcapital.ltd - Ponzi scheme and Plagiarized content
I involved no one 
Too much paranoia, i am just a normal guy who thought he found a good plan... nothing else
That is not "a good" plan, that is "too good to be true" plan, there is a huge difference between them. And I don't believe in normal guys who registered two years ago and still can't recognize a ponzi scheme.Too much paranoia, i am just a normal guy who thought he found a good plan... nothing else
You pretend to be a naive newbie, but that doesn't give you a right to promote very likely scams without consequences even if you invested in them yourself.
You continue your paranoia, i am not invested in, i came here to share and have insights, nothing more nothing less
Re: [SCAM] trustcapital.ltd - Ponzi scheme and Plagiarized content
If you or corrupt journalists you mentioned have involved enough people into that scheme, trustcapital.ltd will still be alive after month and you might get back your investments. For your referrals, it is going to be difficult to withdraw anything.
I involved no one
Re: [SCAM] trustcapital.ltd - Ponzi scheme and Plagiarized content
I read every article and in a way they (trustcapital.ltd) have a lot of information, but take into account that the freelance writer Leah Hutton was unable to enter the trustcapital.ltd office
according to Leah Hutton she verified that the algorithm patent is real, but for her to verify that she had to do it at the UK Intellectual Property Office that was open
My question:
The UK Intellectual Property Office was open, but the trustcapital.ltd office that I think has few employees is closed? something is not right here
Here are the big points that Leah Hutton didn't check:
1 - who are the oxford scientists who created this algorithm in 2000?
2 - where is this proof of the algorithm in action?
and this:
Quote from: https://trustcapital.ltd/
The unique RJV12 algorithm allows our company to predict the behavior of financial assets with a probability of 97.6% and consistently pay dividends to our partners!
if someone has that then they don't need other people's money. think, it would not be easier for them to make a loan at the bank and with this algorithm they would be millionaires, they would not need other people's money
In the article its written the office is closed because of the virus
The guy behind the algo seems to really existing, Caleb Hill
And the need of this kind of website its the leverage, if you have an algo that do 6% byday, you give 3% and you keep the rest, it will be more rewardful than an loan with interest
Anyway now i am in i will keep you posted on what's going on in the futur
Re: [SCAM] trustcapital.ltd - Ponzi scheme and Plagiarized content
OK ok, thank you for your insights, its a cartel, journalist and youtube ok i got it
I cant take back all the capital its blocked, all i can do its get my 3% by day until all the thing blows up, hopefully i put only 1k, at end of the month i get back the capital at least
Thank you for your advises
Cheers
I cant take back all the capital its blocked, all i can do its get my 3% by day until all the thing blows up, hopefully i put only 1k, at end of the month i get back the capital at least
Thank you for your advises
Cheers
Re: [SCAM] trustcapital.ltd - Ponzi scheme and Plagiarized content
Here are my reasons how can I said you're not asking but promoting this scam website :
I could be wrong too, let's wait other members comment and share his thought
- Create topic title of offering the advantages of this website " TRUST CAPITAL LTD - 3% Every Day "
- Suggesting people to use this websites "If you decide to test please use this referral link:"
- You're not new user, from your old post, seems you know how to create thread in right section. But, you create this thread on Bitcoin discussion ( to get more traffic )
I could be wrong too, let's wait other members comment and share his thought
I did both, i did promotion and i warned that maybe its a scam and if it was a scam one of you was going to tell it, that's my "ask"
I created in the bitcoin section because i thought it was the best place as its part of the ecosystem bitcoin as its described in the title section, i didnt see the scam part
I clearly warned that may be a scam but if not, yes why not use my link ? It may work. Except if in the forum's rules its forbidden to promote referal link
1) Official registration
2) Check out the address
3) Unique patented RJV12 algorithm
4) Guaranteed income
5) Checked ourselves.
Source
Point number 1,2, and 3 check this thread Certificate of Incorporation- what it is and why it shouldn't be trusted!. There is so many project has manipulated and using fake address, registration, companies house, or license.
Point number 4 and 5, how can you trust his said? What if the journalism is the scammer from that's project? Have you verify it?
What i checked its the articles that the journalist published and they are many and very old comparing to the TRUST CAPITAL LTD's creation date
I dont think that the journalist and the project are linked you can verify it by clicking on the journalit's name
https://tokenhell.com/author/leah-hutton/page/8/
Re: [SCAM] trustcapital.ltd - Ponzi scheme and Plagiarized content
HI there
Dont put me in it, if its a scam i am gonna be scammed also, i put 1000$ in it
I came here to share the website and have your thoughts on it, not to be treated as a scammer.... so unflag please
Its seems that they developped an algo that do the works RJV12 algorithm
The company is regitered and journalist did the test in this article they say its OK
https://tokenhell.com/trust-capital/
I will give it a try
Dont put me in it, if its a scam i am gonna be scammed also, i put 1000$ in it
I came here to share the website and have your thoughts on it, not to be treated as a scammer.... so unflag please
Its seems that they developped an algo that do the works RJV12 algorithm
The company is regitered and journalist did the test in this article they say its OK
https://tokenhell.com/trust-capital/
I will give it a try
Hi there
I hope you are fine
I just come accros this site https://trustcapital.ltd/
They offer 3% by day when you do deposit on their website
I am not affiliate to this site, i discover it on youtube just now, its new, i do not know if its sam or not, i am testing it
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb_HA7qs8Auxi9ZiWBZ8ztQ
If you decide to test please use this referral link:
https://trustcapital.ltd/?ref=tjsop
I read some articles its seems legit at first sight
Thank you
I hope you are fine
I just come accros this site https://trustcapital.ltd/
They offer 3% by day when you do deposit on their website
I am not affiliate to this site, i discover it on youtube just now, its new, i do not know if its sam or not, i am testing it
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCb_HA7qs8Auxi9ZiWBZ8ztQ
If you decide to test please use this referral link:
https://trustcapital.ltd/?ref=tjsop
I read some articles its seems legit at first sight
Thank you
Re: [ANN][GDT] Gold Token - Bretton Woods is back - Ultimate Crypto - Liquid Gold
Thank you for your reply
Both actually, the story explains why we need to start this project
Sorry for my bad english its not my first langage that's why maybe its not clear enough
I would love create this project but i need the team first and i told myself that this forum was the best place to start
Both actually, the story explains why we need to start this project
Sorry for my bad english its not my first langage that's why maybe its not clear enough
I would love create this project but i need the team first and i told myself that this forum was the best place to start
Re: [ANN][GDT] Gold Token - Bretton Woods is back - Ultimate Crypto - Liquid Gold
All altcoins will be banned this year : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=951_newJ29g
Its funny because two days ago i told here in my first post that there were a scam, not bigger scam than dollar or euro be reassured
The only one crypto that should be existed is the one i described, all others are useless, who cares about smart contract ? The first thing i want as a customer its to have my savings in a sage heaven a stoped being stolen by the inflation
Why nobody is answering ? Am i in the wrong part of the forum to talk about new project ?
Yes my project is not a coin that will do 1000 x but in the other hand my crypto will save the world and the system
Nobody is interrested by building a team and create the GDT ?
To kill the system we need to enter in it, like the Trojan horse that's why we need to create a bank first before imploding the system of their fake currency from the inside
Its funny because two days ago i told here in my first post that there were a scam, not bigger scam than dollar or euro be reassured
The only one crypto that should be existed is the one i described, all others are useless, who cares about smart contract ? The first thing i want as a customer its to have my savings in a sage heaven a stoped being stolen by the inflation
Why nobody is answering ? Am i in the wrong part of the forum to talk about new project ?
Yes my project is not a coin that will do 1000 x but in the other hand my crypto will save the world and the system
Nobody is interrested by building a team and create the GDT ?
To kill the system we need to enter in it, like the Trojan horse that's why we need to create a bank first before imploding the system of their fake currency from the inside
[ANN][GDT] Gold Token - Bretton Woods is back - Ultimate Crypto - Liquid Gold
Dear all,
I hope you are all fine
I will begin to present myself, give my opinion on the crypto today and then explain why i bring you GDT, the Gold Token
I am 38 years old and i work in computer science, i am a developper since 13 years
Maybe i am all wrong because i am not a crypto expert and that's why i open this topic to have your view on the project
If i am wrong nothing will happen, i will just be educated by you, but if i am right this crypto will be the one and all banks will go bankrupt soon for the sake of humanity
So the global idea is to bring back Bretton Woods thanks to the crypto, i will explain how below
I discussed a lot with my brother who is a finacial mathematician about crypto and he told me that Bitcoin will not make it for multiple raisons, neither others crypto and here is why
Bitcoin is deflationary, as the circulating supply is blocked you will never be able to use it in the real world because the prices will always move. No retailers can work with a currency which has this kind of fluctuation. And as the circulating supply is blocked the BTC's price will never stopped to rise and you will prefer keep your bitcoin hopping a higher price tomorow instead of spending them and the effect of this is that the sales will plummet as everybody is just watching the price going higher and higher and not buying anything with it, if Bitcoin is only used its the end of the economy, that's why we saw stable coin coming in, but the stable coin are also a scam as they are backed by fiat scam monopoly money
Let's be clear here, i own myslef bitcoin and i see bitcoin as the most revolutioanry thing after internet but as a financial assets bitcoin wil stay as it is, a strange asset of store of value which carry the risk to go back to zero one day, especially if energy becomes almost free thanks to the nuclear fusion for example because the price of a BTC is 70% cost of energy
So now, what is the only one real money in the world ? Its gold, nothing else, all others things are debt, but gold has a problem, its heavy, so lets tokenise it to make it liquid
I invit you to watch this documentary of Mike Maloney, Money vs Currency - Hidden Secrets Of Money, to understand difference between real money and currency
https://www.youtube.com/user/whygoldandsilver
If fiat currency was unlinked from the gold its to give them the possibility to print fiat like monopoly for wars especially and in the same time make us all poor because of the inflation, its why the houses worth 300K
When you put 100 000$ in a normal bank account with a rate of 3% inflation by year, you lose 30% of purchasing power in 10 years that's why all currencies are for slaves and that the only real money is gold because gold protect you against inflation so after 10 years with gold you are 30% richer with no risk to back to zero
The only way to get out of the slavery its to have a crypto backed by gold that we can spend
I checked if this idea was already done by the commnunity and i saw a lot of problem, or the token is not yours, or you cant ask for the gold regarding the token you have
And the most important thing you cant spend them, no credit card or app to do so !
So finally there is no real project crypto with gold really working in the real world today from what i saw
Here is my idea
1 - Create a real bank
2 - Create an exchange to have zero fees
2 - Each time someone put dollars in his account we automatically buy god with the money and securise it in a vault which will be audited
3- We tokenize the amount of the gold in GDT and put it in the crypto adress of the user
4 - When the user spend GDT with their phone or credit card we sell the GDT against dollars thanks to our exchange and we make the payment
Conclusion, eveybody is now backed by gold and can spend them and all that could be only possible thanks to crypto
All banks will close because everybody will open an account in our bank gold crypto because it will be the only bank who makes you really richier with time, you just has to look at the gold charts, if this was already existing we have should trippeld our savings in the last 10 years, lets dont miss the next 10 years
I had the idea and when i proposed it to my brother he tolds me that we will be my first client so i really have faith in this project
I dont know if what i said is technically possible but if it is its the real solution
And it will be decentralised, the nodes will take care of the transactions and the accounts
For me this project it totally valid as i saw credit card which gives you the possiblity to spend crypto, i imagine there is an exchange that transform the crypto in dollars before the payment
Everything is existing, the bank, the crypto, the gold, the exchange and the credit card to spend the crypto, all we need to do is to put everything together but its only my view and as i am not crypto expert i cant really know if we can make it or not
If we can lets begin the work, the ICO will help to create the bank and all the rest
And if we cant sorry to have to have bored you
Thank you for reading
I hope you are all fine
I will begin to present myself, give my opinion on the crypto today and then explain why i bring you GDT, the Gold Token
I am 38 years old and i work in computer science, i am a developper since 13 years
Maybe i am all wrong because i am not a crypto expert and that's why i open this topic to have your view on the project
If i am wrong nothing will happen, i will just be educated by you, but if i am right this crypto will be the one and all banks will go bankrupt soon for the sake of humanity
So the global idea is to bring back Bretton Woods thanks to the crypto, i will explain how below
I discussed a lot with my brother who is a finacial mathematician about crypto and he told me that Bitcoin will not make it for multiple raisons, neither others crypto and here is why
Bitcoin is deflationary, as the circulating supply is blocked you will never be able to use it in the real world because the prices will always move. No retailers can work with a currency which has this kind of fluctuation. And as the circulating supply is blocked the BTC's price will never stopped to rise and you will prefer keep your bitcoin hopping a higher price tomorow instead of spending them and the effect of this is that the sales will plummet as everybody is just watching the price going higher and higher and not buying anything with it, if Bitcoin is only used its the end of the economy, that's why we saw stable coin coming in, but the stable coin are also a scam as they are backed by fiat scam monopoly money
Let's be clear here, i own myslef bitcoin and i see bitcoin as the most revolutioanry thing after internet but as a financial assets bitcoin wil stay as it is, a strange asset of store of value which carry the risk to go back to zero one day, especially if energy becomes almost free thanks to the nuclear fusion for example because the price of a BTC is 70% cost of energy
So now, what is the only one real money in the world ? Its gold, nothing else, all others things are debt, but gold has a problem, its heavy, so lets tokenise it to make it liquid
I invit you to watch this documentary of Mike Maloney, Money vs Currency - Hidden Secrets Of Money, to understand difference between real money and currency
https://www.youtube.com/user/whygoldandsilver
If fiat currency was unlinked from the gold its to give them the possibility to print fiat like monopoly for wars especially and in the same time make us all poor because of the inflation, its why the houses worth 300K
When you put 100 000$ in a normal bank account with a rate of 3% inflation by year, you lose 30% of purchasing power in 10 years that's why all currencies are for slaves and that the only real money is gold because gold protect you against inflation so after 10 years with gold you are 30% richer with no risk to back to zero
The only way to get out of the slavery its to have a crypto backed by gold that we can spend
I checked if this idea was already done by the commnunity and i saw a lot of problem, or the token is not yours, or you cant ask for the gold regarding the token you have
And the most important thing you cant spend them, no credit card or app to do so !
So finally there is no real project crypto with gold really working in the real world today from what i saw
Here is my idea
1 - Create a real bank
2 - Create an exchange to have zero fees
2 - Each time someone put dollars in his account we automatically buy god with the money and securise it in a vault which will be audited
3- We tokenize the amount of the gold in GDT and put it in the crypto adress of the user
4 - When the user spend GDT with their phone or credit card we sell the GDT against dollars thanks to our exchange and we make the payment
Conclusion, eveybody is now backed by gold and can spend them and all that could be only possible thanks to crypto
All banks will close because everybody will open an account in our bank gold crypto because it will be the only bank who makes you really richier with time, you just has to look at the gold charts, if this was already existing we have should trippeld our savings in the last 10 years, lets dont miss the next 10 years
I had the idea and when i proposed it to my brother he tolds me that we will be my first client so i really have faith in this project
I dont know if what i said is technically possible but if it is its the real solution
And it will be decentralised, the nodes will take care of the transactions and the accounts
For me this project it totally valid as i saw credit card which gives you the possiblity to spend crypto, i imagine there is an exchange that transform the crypto in dollars before the payment
Everything is existing, the bank, the crypto, the gold, the exchange and the credit card to spend the crypto, all we need to do is to put everything together but its only my view and as i am not crypto expert i cant really know if we can make it or not
If we can lets begin the work, the ICO will help to create the bank and all the rest
And if we cant sorry to have to have bored you
Thank you for reading
I solved with this site https://eosauthority.com/ Free trx here
72 hours to unstack and then this error
4 days for nothing and research to understand how to do a simple trx wtf
I sold every EOS and went back to BTC
In fact this shit of blockchain 2.0 is not working after 10 years... Its way too complicated for normal people to use. In 10 years we will still be there while the FED will laught at us with the US digit dollars
Its Game over
72 hours to unstack and then this error
4 days for nothing and research to understand how to do a simple trx wtf
I sold every EOS and went back to BTC
In fact this shit of blockchain 2.0 is not working after 10 years... Its way too complicated for normal people to use. In 10 years we will still be there while the FED will laught at us with the US digit dollars
Its Game over
Re: [ANN] [LIFE] Token | Card | Reward | Simply for everyday people | Launched
So if i buy now ( example $1000) , how much profit do i get for 6 month later ?
2 lambos and two houses approximately, ho ya and i almost forgot, certainly one or two horses also
Re: [ANN][XRB]Cryptocurrency's killer app: RaiBlocks micropayments
Hi There
I wanted to do all in on XRB so i made some research and i came accross all these posts
What are your thoughts please on this ?
Those words are in quotes though it is not factually a quotation.
Perhaps American English is not your native language? I did not quote you. If I did, I would have used the normal forum quoting as I always do. Placing a phrase between double quotes can also mean that the quoted description is an example of how someone might say it (not specifically any person, since the quote was not attributed to any person)
According to the writer's handbook https://writing.wisc.edu/Handbook/QPA_quoting.html Quotations are literal quotations and should cite references, Adding Clarification, Comment, or Correction requires square brackets around what you're modifying.
http://www.apastyle.org/learn/faqs/use-double-quotes.aspx
http://www.scribendi.com/advice/when_to_use_double_or_single_quotation_marks.en.html
I warned you not to write condescendingly to me again. Now I will more forcefully state the facts.
I can see I am dealing with a pedantic Dunning-Kruger jackass who has too limited understanding of the technical field to discern technobabble from expertise.
Arguing with someone who is not knowledgeable enough in the field to know whey are acting as a Dunning-Kruger jackass, ends up being an enormous waste of time and effort for the expert.
When you are ready to come down from your ignorant high horse and learn, let me know.
Note most readers here are not knowledgeable enough to discern that you are not an expert. Thus you can probably convince them to invest in your project. The proof of failure will come down the line. No need for me to educate you beforehand, given your attitude.
Monsterer and I have been having discussions and you may not be in as much agreement as you believe.
I will wait to see a public post from monsterer if he disagrees with my assessment. Are you referring to private discussions with him? Because in my quick perusal of his public posts in this thread, they seem to be congruent with my points. Feel free to point out a case where you think his points are not congruent with mine.
Those words are in quotes though it is not factually a quotation.
Perhaps American English is not your native language? I did not quote you. If I did, I would have used the normal forum quoting as I always do. Placing a phrase between double quotes can also mean that the quoted description is an example of how someone might say it (not specifically any person, since the quote was not attributed to any person).
There is no such thing as Byzantine fault tolerance since the byzantine problem is stated in terms of separation of communication a.k.a. network partitioning. Only after partitions have been merged can a final conclusion be reached for instance bitcoin isn't tolerant against partitioning since if the network was partitioned and each separate segment was generate separate block chains, a conclusion as to which is the longest couldn't be reached until the partitions were merged and the results compared, hence it would no longer by a byzantine problem. Please read up more on the topic before commenting on them.
Do NOT again write an absurd condescending remark that assumes I hadn't yet researched the fundamental concepts.
Try to remain respectful please (and leave the ad hominem diarrhea aside) as we had been up thread.
I have no idea what rational basis you have told yourself to justify assuming I don't understand the definition of Byzantine fault tolerance. How could I possibly be commenting with so much technical knowledge in your thread if I hadn't yet researched the fundamental concepts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_fault_tolerance
Your understanding of Byzantine fault tolerance is incorrect. Per the definition above, Bitcoin delivers the same expectations (symptoms) for CAP (consistency, access, and partition tolerance) to all observers which are participants in the longest chain partition. The probability of a failure decreases probabilistically over time as the number of confirmations on the longest chain increases. There are degenerate cases such as the 51% attack where Byzantine failure occurs.
Note the double-spending on a minority chain is not a Byzantine failure, because by definition the minority chain is invalid.
There is no such thing as absolute anything in the universe, thus arguing that Byzantine fault tolerance is not universal is a vacuous assertion. Byzantine fault tolerance is defined for a system and the defined objectivity of the system, not for universal absolutism.
Again, the CAP theorem states that all three states cannot simultaneously be achieved so by the nature that RaiBlocks, in addition to any crypto currency, does not claim it can operate while partitioned, this means at most we're claiming 2 out of 3 which by definition satisfies the CAP theorem and no cryptocurrency out there is violating it. Please read more before commenting.
This ad hominem noise again.
Yet another vacuous argument demonstrating that you do not understand that Bitcoin is partition tolerant within its Byzantine fault tolerant objectivity. Byzantine fault tolerance doesn't mean that CAP has to be fulfilled for those observers who are ignoring the longest chain rule or who are unwilling to accept the probabilitistic nature of the expectations (and thus the fault tolerance). Within Bitcoin's objectivity of the longest chain, all three of the CAP attributes are attained. And my criticisms of your design are about its ill-defined objectivity.
Let this technical rebuttal be instructive to you on the fact that my skills/expertise/research in this area are higher than you apparently assume (given your condescending remarks and your continual unwillingness to accept that 3 experts gmaxwell, monsterer, and myself have come into your thread and graciously tried to explain that your design has serious flaws).
The rest of your reply really seemed to start going off the rails of rational logic. But I will try to find the desire to reply to it point-by-point after I cool down from the lashing of your condescending assumptions above.
So at the very least, nodes which are syncing would accept my fork as truth? Also possibly online nodes if my fork was presented within some window of time?
Sounds right I think, bootstrap poisoning is one attack vector. One way to address this would be to bootstrap to your representative or whoever gave you your wallet code. Presumably if you trust them enough to download and execute a program that manages your private keys, you can trust them to bootstrap you correctly.
Another option is to bootstrap to someone you're interested in sending to, a merchant perhaps, because in the end the only thing that matters is if they'll accept your payments as valid and they'll tell you what they're accepting through bootstrapping.
Another problem would be if almost everyone simultaneously changed their representative while forks were occurring. This would would require every account to be online and simultaneously signing a change to their representative; interesting but I don't see that actually happening.
But after reading all this i concluded that XRB is not finally secure and that i needed to stay away of it, that's why no exchanges is selling it, its because they understood that its gona be a big mess no ? I see multiple experts of this forum telling that its XRB is faulty so i do not understand why this hype...
Thank you for your help if maybe i am not understanding well the situation
I wanted to do all in on XRB so i made some research and i came accross all these posts
What are your thoughts please on this ?
It appears (from the writeup) that you are unaware of sybil attacks?
The graph of transactions in bitcoin already functions like what you describe (except 'accounts' are single use txouts); Bram Cohen likes to call Bitcoin without the blockchain "bitpeso". In Bitcoin the blockchain is overlaid on top of "bitpeso" to resolve "complex forks" (using your language) in a manner that allows someone to join the network and know which resolution is authoritative in a way which is both robust to sybil attacks and does not require membership (because a membership process would create control over the system).
In your description you appears to liberally conflate forks and double-spending. In Bitcoin, double spending a traditional txout requires malicious behavior, just as you describe. Blockchain forking in the absence of double spending is benign and no different to the "multiple resolution rounds" you mention from your resolution protocol but fail to describe detail sufficient to permit any analysis.
The graph of transactions in bitcoin already functions like what you describe (except 'accounts' are single use txouts); Bram Cohen likes to call Bitcoin without the blockchain "bitpeso". In Bitcoin the blockchain is overlaid on top of "bitpeso" to resolve "complex forks" (using your language) in a manner that allows someone to join the network and know which resolution is authoritative in a way which is both robust to sybil attacks and does not require membership (because a membership process would create control over the system).
In your description you appears to liberally conflate forks and double-spending. In Bitcoin, double spending a traditional txout requires malicious behavior, just as you describe. Blockchain forking in the absence of double spending is benign and no different to the "multiple resolution rounds" you mention from your resolution protocol but fail to describe detail sufficient to permit any analysis.
afaics you have not definitively stated the frame-of-reference—employed by your ("every UTXO output has its own block chain")
Those words are in quotes though it is not factually a quotation.
Perhaps American English is not your native language? I did not quote you. If I did, I would have used the normal forum quoting as I always do. Placing a phrase between double quotes can also mean that the quoted description is an example of how someone might say it (not specifically any person, since the quote was not attributed to any person)
According to the writer's handbook https://writing.wisc.edu/Handbook/QPA_quoting.html Quotations are literal quotations and should cite references, Adding Clarification, Comment, or Correction requires square brackets around what you're modifying.
http://www.apastyle.org/learn/faqs/use-double-quotes.aspx
Quote
Observe the following guidelines for uses of double quotation marks other than in material quoted directly from a source.
to introduce a word or phrase used as an ironic comment, as slang, or as an invented or coined expression. Use quotation marks the first time the word or phrase is used
to introduce a word or phrase used as an ironic comment, as slang, or as an invented or coined expression. Use quotation marks the first time the word or phrase is used
http://www.scribendi.com/advice/when_to_use_double_or_single_quotation_marks.en.html
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n much specialist writing, including linguistics, philosophy, and theology, terms with particular meanings that are unique to that subject are often enclosed in single quotation mark
I'm sure you'll have no problem writing up another post
I warned you not to write condescendingly to me again. Now I will more forcefully state the facts.
I can see I am dealing with a pedantic Dunning-Kruger jackass who has too limited understanding of the technical field to discern technobabble from expertise.
Arguing with someone who is not knowledgeable enough in the field to know whey are acting as a Dunning-Kruger jackass, ends up being an enormous waste of time and effort for the expert.
When you are ready to come down from your ignorant high horse and learn, let me know.
Note most readers here are not knowledgeable enough to discern that you are not an expert. Thus you can probably convince them to invest in your project. The proof of failure will come down the line. No need for me to educate you beforehand, given your attitude.
I'm afraid I largely agree with TPTB_need_war; without a voting history, I find it hard to see how there can be a reliable, unforgeable consensus for 'now'.
This is true in the real world because time travel is impossible. Cryptocurrencies must strive to make time travel, voting on past history, or presenting fraudulent histories very hard, or the 'now' won't be reliable or consistent.
That's not correct, the consensus now is all that matters. For instance as humans we don't have a record of all governments and all decisions going back to the beginning of time yet we have a consensus about what we agree to at this moment. A historical record can be interesting but the only thing that matters is consensus at this current point in time, only historians care about anything else and currency isn't about a history lesson.
This is true in the real world because time travel is impossible. Cryptocurrencies must strive to make time travel, voting on past history, or presenting fraudulent histories very hard, or the 'now' won't be reliable or consistent.
As monsterer and I have been alluding to up thread
Monsterer and I have been having discussions and you may not be in as much agreement as you believe.
I will wait to see a public post from monsterer if he disagrees with my assessment. Are you referring to private discussions with him? Because in my quick perusal of his public posts in this thread, they seem to be congruent with my points. Feel free to point out a case where you think his points are not congruent with mine.
afaics you have not definitively stated the frame-of-reference—employed by your ("every UTXO output has its own block chain")
Those words are in quotes though it is not factually a quotation.
Perhaps American English is not your native language? I did not quote you. If I did, I would have used the normal forum quoting as I always do. Placing a phrase between double quotes can also mean that the quoted description is an example of how someone might say it (not specifically any person, since the quote was not attributed to any person).
design—for Byzantine fault tolerant consensus
There is no such thing as Byzantine fault tolerance since the byzantine problem is stated in terms of separation of communication a.k.a. network partitioning. Only after partitions have been merged can a final conclusion be reached for instance bitcoin isn't tolerant against partitioning since if the network was partitioned and each separate segment was generate separate block chains, a conclusion as to which is the longest couldn't be reached until the partitions were merged and the results compared, hence it would no longer by a byzantine problem. Please read up more on the topic before commenting on them.
Do NOT again write an absurd condescending remark that assumes I hadn't yet researched the fundamental concepts.
Try to remain respectful please (and leave the ad hominem diarrhea aside) as we had been up thread.
I have no idea what rational basis you have told yourself to justify assuming I don't understand the definition of Byzantine fault tolerance. How could I possibly be commenting with so much technical knowledge in your thread if I hadn't yet researched the fundamental concepts.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_fault_tolerance
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Byzantine fault
Any fault presenting different symptoms to different observers
Byzantine failure
The loss of a system service due to a Byzantine fault in systems that require consensus
Any fault presenting different symptoms to different observers
Byzantine failure
The loss of a system service due to a Byzantine fault in systems that require consensus
Your understanding of Byzantine fault tolerance is incorrect. Per the definition above, Bitcoin delivers the same expectations (symptoms) for CAP (consistency, access, and partition tolerance) to all observers which are participants in the longest chain partition. The probability of a failure decreases probabilistically over time as the number of confirmations on the longest chain increases. There are degenerate cases such as the 51% attack where Byzantine failure occurs.
Note the double-spending on a minority chain is not a Byzantine failure, because by definition the minority chain is invalid.
There is no such thing as absolute anything in the universe, thus arguing that Byzantine fault tolerance is not universal is a vacuous assertion. Byzantine fault tolerance is defined for a system and the defined objectivity of the system, not for universal absolutism.
, so I have now expended the time to research, think, and hopefully correctly define it. Your design's frame-of-reference for Byzantine fault tolerant consensus is majority of the vote by the "voters" which have locked a suitable amount of coins (value). We must determine the (game theory) objectivity of this frame-of-reference and the impacts within the CAP theorem.
Again, the CAP theorem states that all three states cannot simultaneously be achieved so by the nature that RaiBlocks, in addition to any crypto currency, does not claim it can operate while partitioned, this means at most we're claiming 2 out of 3 which by definition satisfies the CAP theorem and no cryptocurrency out there is violating it. Please read more before commenting.
This ad hominem noise again.
Yet another vacuous argument demonstrating that you do not understand that Bitcoin is partition tolerant within its Byzantine fault tolerant objectivity. Byzantine fault tolerance doesn't mean that CAP has to be fulfilled for those observers who are ignoring the longest chain rule or who are unwilling to accept the probabilitistic nature of the expectations (and thus the fault tolerance). Within Bitcoin's objectivity of the longest chain, all three of the CAP attributes are attained. And my criticisms of your design are about its ill-defined objectivity.
Let this technical rebuttal be instructive to you on the fact that my skills/expertise/research in this area are higher than you apparently assume (given your condescending remarks and your continual unwillingness to accept that 3 experts gmaxwell, monsterer, and myself have come into your thread and graciously tried to explain that your design has serious flaws).
The rest of your reply really seemed to start going off the rails of rational logic. But I will try to find the desire to reply to it point-by-point after I cool down from the lashing of your condescending assumptions above.
Nodes take the first block they receive or which ever block is winning in votes as observed by vote traffic coming off the network compared against the set of stake holders currently in the ledger.
So at the very least, nodes which are syncing would accept my fork as truth? Also possibly online nodes if my fork was presented within some window of time?
Sounds right I think, bootstrap poisoning is one attack vector. One way to address this would be to bootstrap to your representative or whoever gave you your wallet code. Presumably if you trust them enough to download and execute a program that manages your private keys, you can trust them to bootstrap you correctly.
Another option is to bootstrap to someone you're interested in sending to, a merchant perhaps, because in the end the only thing that matters is if they'll accept your payments as valid and they'll tell you what they're accepting through bootstrapping.
Another problem would be if almost everyone simultaneously changed their representative while forks were occurring. This would would require every account to be online and simultaneously signing a change to their representative; interesting but I don't see that actually happening.
But after reading all this i concluded that XRB is not finally secure and that i needed to stay away of it, that's why no exchanges is selling it, its because they understood that its gona be a big mess no ? I see multiple experts of this forum telling that its XRB is faulty so i do not understand why this hype...
Thank you for your help if maybe i am not understanding well the situation