sorry,I am not very good at English ,what does on crack means?

who knows...I can't have even one reason to trust BA anymore..

.there are not trust , no honor, no reputations no any good quality as a human beings. in the bitcoin world.....all here are kills ,greedy,lazy,steal....bitcoin even can make a good person to bad...

sorry to say that every bitcoiners..that is my real feel after all this from last year...
maybe I will back to bitcoin when it back to 2009...the real it is...

I finally can end this nightmare for the experience with BA...
I got my refunds by BTC the amount I paid for my order last year. yes,in my heart it's not fair,but some better than none...

I will never do preorder anymore,mining is the lessness and meaningless work in the world...
（I have to say,it's shame that I still ming...I think I will end mining when my miner can't mine any more because of the high diff..even that I can never got my money back and make any profit with the miner.）
good luck everyone! hope all you can got want you want..
for the customers here,I want to say,we all are victims...we are cheated by this bitcoin game..wake up !!!
go for your work , go for your friends and family ...forget about bitcoin if you can got out of this stuff like me now...

anyone need help or infos can contact me anyway..
regards

The police called me to check your reply..so I have to ask you again: when can you refund me?
 
please reply me as soon as possible..I have did what you tell me do and sent everything to your email even use your way of refunding BTC...for now, I don't want to argue it's fair or not now....but,just refunds me as your way..
I have accept your way of refunding..what on earth you want ?

ticket: #DJK-439-73538 and #XVG-686-30712

Hello,BA,
I have to say....I already sign my BTC address for recieve refunding and sent to your support by email as you told me from email,I aready accept your way for refunding BTC.... I am tired of this.....but why still no response and reply?and I still waiting for your refunds.....

at least, some good news come .....

hope this is true....

I think the so called backplane or some problems may be excuse...maybe they are mining bitcoins using our X3 hash modules .....

cheers, lucky to you！

BA, I think you'd better think about the huge compensation if x3 still delayed...

truly I hope you fixed the X3 and ship to me now with good compensation...

but as everybody can see here...it's impossible for now

BA,I really suggest you just refunds us...refunds us in a fair way ..
take  me as example..if you paid me bitcoin?you should refunds me BTC values 6068USD wich my order cost..of course you can refunds me through bank..if you still refuse to refund..We have to add and increase compensation for refunds...

or you may can't afford all the customers' compensation both for refunds and hashing units..if delayed still

BTW,my contact still available ..

seems no update for X3 and refunds still....
@David,why ban me still on ecoin with a new account haha123 and delete all my post?just because I said I am tracyhh?

I have updates and change my thread here at #1....so this time what excuse you can find to ban me so let me can't say anything true about BA?

BTW, BA,not just deal refunds request of mine(and just unfair refunds which I can't accept),but refunds all of your customers if they request refunds ..do as a good company do...
we still not got our products X3, still no refunds and unfair refunds for me at least...
still no updates infos from BA official....

bitmine is retarded...seems Not BA??
if your order is delayed more than 71days in Bitmine,you can request refund and they will refunds you the Btc values today's exchange rate or cash through bank plus 10% compensation...yes,many refunds delayed..but also many got their refunds and compensation,at least they refunds can accepted and they will refund you your money and lost...everyone can check their official thread website to check , I am not lying..

I of course need money.buy does not means I should accept  your unfair refunds clause..
right,China does not classify btc as money now..but it does not mean you can cheat with BTC..it's also crime,think about GBL event in China last year..customers even use cash to buy bitcoin one their web derectly..what last? the boss and manager are been sent into prison by police because they run and cheat all customers'  money...
and remember, I do the deal with you BA last year..at that time ,China does not say they does not classify BTC as money ...no documents at all..

no court will take my claims? sounds to me you know this before and so use this to cheat everyone here???
no court will take that is not true .. so that's why I post a thread to unite us,the customers as a group..
like I don't know how things work in China...I am in China

BTW,are you work for BA ? sorry for doubt that...

every other true customers , now you can see..BA with their reseller already control this thread that make us true customer can't express their own views..and can't standout to speak out the truth...

in the end,I sorry for any uncomfortable I take to any true customers or good resellers..
I just want get my money and help everyone..not BA...you already make everyone frustrated...
I will continue updates news about our actions for our customers have the right to know..
and my contact still available ..
regard

BTW, BA,not just deal refunds with me(and just unfair refunds which I can't accept ),but refunds all of your customers if they request refunds ..do as a good company do.

we still not got our products X3, still no refunds and unfair refunds for me at least...
still no updates infos from BA official

guys,you can check what the refund clause of BITMINE ...
refunds delayed but at least bitmine refund you what you paid exactly.and if paid by bitcoin ,then values in today's price of exchange rate and plus 10% as compensation.

I dout there are so many resellers and BA workers here just like on ecoin

I as customer , request my money back.no matter Btc price up or down.just values the order 6068.13USD will be accepted..
and the compensation 20% because,I am a customer for the BA's problem that until now I still not get my order..
according to 中华人民共和国消费者权益保护法 We customer deserves the compensation..

so I update and change my thread in order let them no excuse to remove my account on ecoin..
everybody can check https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=647016.0
BA just afraid us unite be a group

updates:
 guys, guess what?..I receive an email from BA：

"Dear customer,

We were unable to change your BTCs at the exchange rate that you have paid us and for this reason we still hold your BTC. For this reason, we are only able to refund you the BTC sum that you've actually paid minus the equivalent of 50 USD in BTC handling fee.

If you agree that this is enough to settle your refund in full, we will refund you. Otherwise, we are declining your refund according to the clauses quoted below from our terms and conditions and will deliver your order as agreed in our terms and conditions.
"



Does any one in our group recieved the same email?? please check your email and reply me...thanks

BA are you seriously??? are you kidding me?......
what I request the refunds are bitcoins values 6068.13 USD(5,949.15+118.98) plus 6068.13*20%=1213.626 USD as
compensation....which means totally 7281.756 USD you should pay me....not just 6.35693BTC I paid you on 10 Dec 2013. because 6.35693BTC today(June 11,2014)not values 7281.756 USD even not values 6068.13 USD in order...
in today's exchange rate that should be more than 11.3778 BTC...
or you can pay me 7281.756 USD through bank.

BA,may I ask you if today's exchange rate is very high like 10000USD/BTC, you still will refunds me 6.35693BTC?




Now, eveyone see what BA is now?....they are cheater....
BA, where is my money? where is my products,my order??

more ridiculous....
all my post on their: ecointalk.net are gone,  when I post, guess what? I recieve: "You have been restricted from posting on this community."
everyone, if you have something to say, you can say it on http://ecointalk.net/ also, because BA may more afraid on that forum...



 

we don't want trouble against anyone,but seriously. a company like BA totally refused any refunds in a forced way no matter what reason the customer request...they just ignore refunds...that's really bad..and no any limited time for delivery just let you wait ..seems when they happy then they can sent you your ordet,if not,truly.according to their so called terms
if they failed and can't give you the products or any delayed.they think they should not responsible for that and that is customer's mistake invest in them...
guys. tell me if you will trust this company and buy products from them or not in the future?

it's really hard for our customer to use our right in this community..so we should unite and support each other..
this should not be the bitcoin word:allows cheating and no rules to this cheater..if the community allows these company like BA exist...no one will benefit at last even if BA...

besides,we, The BA customers, I stand out,warning everyone who plan to  consider to do business with this company and the boss(We will know him at last in someway),be very careful,they will totally not allow any refunds and promise or guarantee to any one..they are not confidence about their products and company...they may don't have the ability to do these business at all...because hardly any company which sell miner will totally refused refunds at all and even didn't dare to guarantee anything to their partner or customer...

we,The BA customers,I stand out, hoping the admin of this forum or other customers or anyone to help us despite we have taken other actions,your help are always helpful and thankful.the BA official even hardly to their official thread to talk and discuss with their customers...so I hope anyone can contact BA and their boss to tell them to acknowledge these problems and do as reall company do ..
and I suggest personally that admin can open a official thread to update the trust Rating like https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=456691   for every company here..so we can see who is the cheater...

join us if you wish：https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=647016.0
best regard to all as customers