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Re: [ANN][ICO]🇨 Crypterium - Digital Cryptobank with Credit Token & Open Platform🇨
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traderspit
on 31/01/2018, 20:54:36 UTC
Also the token model is different, some % of CRPT is going be burn everytime you making transaction. Imagine if people start to use it the value of CRPT is going to explode.

The burned CRPT tokens will be mostly back transfered to the CRPT token holders with large amount of CRPT in the pocket and as we saw, there are +50m unplaned CRPT deployed to someone else and not to the investors or the community. CRPT will not be destroyed on transactions, they will just change the owner.
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Re: [ANN][ICO]🇨 Crypterium - Digital Cryptobank with Credit Token & Open Platform🇨
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traderspit
on 31/01/2018, 20:31:14 UTC
Naga (NGC) announced today a master card debit card to cash out your cryptos on ATM or buy stocks in their eco system.
Why the world needs Crypterium now ? I don't see any advantages for CRPT and Naga has a solution now and not only on misty papers.
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Re: [ANN][ICO]🇨 Crypterium - Digital Cryptobank with Credit Token & Open Platform🇨
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traderspit
on 29/01/2018, 20:11:25 UTC

Your research sounds interesting.
But what if we wait for CMC to adjust CRPT Circulating Supply?
And then this discussion will become more grounded.

It doesn't care or change things, what's declared on coinmarketcap, because Crypterium itself announced the total supply of +99m CRPT. How many are circulating or not, does not make a difference for me, because these "not circulating" CRPT still exists and can be thrown to the market without announcements.


Have you added the bonuses and referrals into your equation for the total supply of CRPT?

I read the site here https://crypterium.io/#ca and calculated 1 and 1. Maybe I'm wrong, help us.
Can you explain, how this 99 millions of token are distributed and how this match with the printscreen picture below ?


http://up.picr.de/31672771wo.jpg


specially I'm interested, why nobody is able to answer this simple questions, I wrote (or why it does not care anyone to clarify if its scam or not).

correct me if I am wrong. on https://crypterium.io/ is showed, that for $51m was sold for tokens during the ICO for a price of 0.0001 BTC (or ~$1.6 per CRPT based on the price of ~$16000/BTC). First of all, why are $51m in the room, when the hardcap was $47m (what is additional 10% from no where)? Okay, lets forget this ~$4m more, it's only one of the misty things. This are additional ~2.5m CRPT. who owns it ?

There was sold to investors $51/$1.6= around ~32m CRPT. If they say.. okay the BTC price dropped to ~$11k, the price per CRPT now is ~$1.1 (0.0001 BTC), they adjusted the amount to $51m/$1.1 to around 46m CRPT (but the ICO investors got only ~32m CRPT based on the price during the ICO). where are this (46m - 32m) additional ~14m CRPT, who owns it ?

Next.. these 46m adjusted CRPT must be equal to 70% of all existing tokens. If we add these 30% of CRPT for owners/bounty/reserverd etc, we have now adjusted total of 60m existing CRPT and not ~99m, this are additional 39m CRPT, who owns it ?
You see, there are many numbers in the room which I can't explain. What I see is, that there are additional ~50m CRPT which I didn't expect

In general.. ~32m CRPT was sold to investors and now we see a total supply of ~99m. That mean, 70% catched the owners and 30% investors (and it should be in other way).
Sorry in case if I'm wrong and spreading not correct understandings around, but someone have to clarify this.

my motivation is (I sold everything instantly when I read about 99m tokens), that I re-buy CRPT in case of being a serious story on the level of 25 cents, when it reaches the price, given by the amount of  CRPT.
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Re: [ANN][ICO]🇨 Crypterium - Digital Cryptobank with Credit Token & Open Platform🇨
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traderspit
on 28/01/2018, 21:08:01 UTC

Your research sounds interesting.
But what if we wait for CMC to adjust CRPT Circulating Supply?
And then this discussion will become more grounded.

It doesn't care or change things, what's declared on coinmarketcap, because Crypterium itself announced the total supply of +99m CRPT. How many are circulating or not, does not make a difference for me, because these "not circulating" CRPT still exists and can be thrown to the market without announcements.



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Re: [ANN][ICO]🇨 Crypterium - Digital Cryptobank with Credit Token & Open Platform🇨
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traderspit
on 28/01/2018, 18:20:52 UTC
correct me if I am wrong. on https://crypterium.io/ is showed, that for $51m was sold for tokens during the ICO for a price of 0.0001 BTC (or ~$1.6 per CRPT based on the price of ~$16000/BTC). First of all, why are $51m in the room, when the hardcap was $47m (what is additional 10% from no where)? Okay, lets forget this ~$4m more, it's only one of the misty things. This are additional ~2.5m CRPT. who owns it ?

There was sold to investors $51/$1.6= around ~32m CRPT. If they say.. okay the BTC price dropped to ~$11k, the price per CRPT now is ~$1.1 (0.0001 BTC), they adjusted the amount to $51m/$1.1 to around 46m CRPT (but the ICO investors got only ~32m CRPT based on the price during the ICO). where are this (46m - 32m) additional ~14m CRPT, who owns it ?

Next.. these 46m adjusted CRPT must be equal to 70% of all existing tokens. If we add these 30% of CRPT for owners/bounty/reserverd etc, we have now adjusted total of 60m existing CRPT and not ~99m, this are additional 39m CRPT, who owns it ?
You see, there are many numbers in the room which I can't explain. What I see is, that there are additional ~50m CRPT which I didn't expect

In general.. ~32m CRPT was sold to investors and now we see a total supply of ~99m. That mean, 70% catched the owners and 30% investors (and it should be in other way).
Sorry in case if I'm wrong and spreading not correct understandings around, but someone have to clarify this.




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Re: [ANN][ICO]🇨 Crypterium - Digital Cryptobank with Credit Token & Open Platform🇨
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traderspit
on 28/01/2018, 15:35:03 UTC
How much do u guys think a good entry point on this??

i have a feeling that crypterium will cost under $1 at some point..
I bought during ico some for $1,5 each
And I am considering risk and cut some possible losses.

What do u guys think?

This are my thoughts also. There was many orders filled below the ICO price, investors are selling for cheap prices because they won't lose money. I personally think, this story looks like a scam and I sold it with a moderate +40% to save my investment and spend it other projects with less suspect behaviour and transparent communication. I don't trust them any more since they doubled the amount of tokens and filled their bags with shortly created assets (instead of burning them) coming from no where. In example from the "real world".. you can't bring a stock IPO to the stock market and after weeks double the stock amount without asking the existing shareholders. This action changes the value and scam the existing shareholders. There is no communication and PR to explain us what and why this happens. You cant behave with millions of investors with that poor investor relations.

The only response from crypterium to this question (see https://twitter.com/crypterium/status/956785955465322496 ) is, to update the total supply on Coinmarketcap soon. Are they kidding me ?

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Re: [ANN][ICO]🇨 Crypterium - Digital Cryptobank with Credit Token & Open Platform🇨
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traderspit
on 28/01/2018, 13:35:51 UTC
I feel so scammed, they released 99,983,677 CRPT and no words about during the ICO hard cap.
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Re: [ANN][LSK] Lisk | Blockchain Application Platform for JavaScript Developers
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traderspit
on 13/01/2018, 17:35:21 UTC
I think price go to 100+ till 20 FEB

Would be great! The trend development is very nice. A very hard pump, than dump to half way so net net an increase. Hodll!  Grin

why do you think, LSK could be @100$ ? Are there any fundamentals to proof this message ? For me, it looks like a snowball system because only the 100 delegates earns something, and they have to be voted to be on top of the 100 winners (which paid a lot of LSK to be in the voters list). On the other side, each transaction has a very expensive fee for 0.1 LSK for the chain operators and 0.1 LSK on the deposit place. That mean, a transaction costs 0.2 LSK. With a price of 100$ you have tp pay 20$ fees/LSK (20%) what's huge on the price level of 100. I don't see any future if this rules and fees consists and I no longer see much value for LSK because other projects with similar focus has made a good progress. Ethereum is the leader in that side chain biz today and still growing with real business cases and easy to use blockchain adaption. I can't imagine, that lsk has the same potential because the current circumstantes, which are in my personal opinion wrong.

I'm in LSK since 2$ and sold them today for good money.

just my 2 satoshis. correct me, if I'm wrong.
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Re: The new Naga coin and the story of the Hitbtc exchange
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traderspit
on 01/01/2018, 21:44:12 UTC
Naga (NGC) now at 2.80 and rising. Are there any rumors about other Exchanges than HitBTC for the Naga Coin ?
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Re: Koliko nas ima?
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traderspit
on 25/12/2017, 20:17:39 UTC
Pozdrav iz Velike Gorice