Who cares... they are all wrong.
ZeroCoin will be between $37 and $43 USD within a year or two.
Pick any price under $50 and then it is only a question of time. 

Not real. I did a reverse image search on TinEye:

http://www.pbase.com/accl/image/43370583&exif=Y

Yes, but while this would be good for eBay and good for bitcoin, make no misstake about it,
they will bending over backwards to please the FEDS. That means means the product they
deploy will be as far away from a Dark Wallet as they can possible get. Knowing this, I don't
think I will be using it...  but nevertheless it should double the price of bitcoin!

I'll believe it when I see it.

Okay, I can see that your serious.

The "gold" is those early adopters who fund the project (become early share holders in the virtue company).

Did I get that right?
 
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Here are two very real questions:

PREFACE: The United States has accumulated over $70 trillion in unreported debt, an amount nearly six times the declared figure, according to a new study by University of California-San Diego economics Professor James Hamilton.

Here is question #1: What will prevent Master-Coin from being revalued?

One day we might read a headline like this:
"Master-Coin ownership just jumped from its starting value of 1 trillion to 70 trillion overnight."

And as we read into the story find this:
"Today 69 new bitcoins that funded MasterCion prior to it's official launch were discovered thus undermining the value of the original investors thought they held."

Here is question #2: What will insure Master-Coin is revalued upward?

Reasonable speaking, what kind of return does an early adopter have to gain?
(... and how might you better insure against any loses with some other alternative ALT.COIN?)

/unSpy

p.s. One more thought, it would seems to me that LiteCoin or FeatherCoin could sell themselves as insurance against a counter-party should bitcoin fail in some way. That if were to happen, your Master-Coin protocol could sit atop their blockchain just as well, or could be switch over to that blockchain should thee need arise. This begs the question, couldn't a future ALT.COIN creator ensure the value of his new virtual currency by linking isn't value to Master-Coin even it his new virtual currency deviated from the Bitcoin standard? If so, how would this be done? What unintended consequences might result?

 

I did a trade with tclo and all went well.  I sent him the XRP and he sent the BTC quickly. Thanks again.

My motto is: "decentralize everything.... starting with money"

I found this on Reddit:

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VIDEO: http://goo.gl/8MpsN

Bitcoins truly are EMERGO LIBER (liberty coming out of obscurity) producing greater freedom in our world.

The Gov’ment has done a great job on having us think backwards.
 
The Federal Reserve Note (FRN) may be legal tender, but it has NEVER
been legally named a dollar. You will not find any law anywhere that states this.
The FRN may be denominated in dollars but this makes it no more a dollar than
calling a chicken a duck makes it a fly south in the winter.

The United States Code (12 § 411) provides that FRNs "shall be redeemed in
lawful money on demand at the Treasury Department of the United States or
at any Federal Reserve bank.” Thus, FRNs are not themselves "lawful money"
otherwise, they would not be "redeemable in lawful money.”

Legal Tender Laws make us use something for money even if something else
may be better (like Bitcoin for example). It is a very important point that
Legal Tender Laws are always found where Fiat Money is being used.
In other words, whenever governments have DECLARED that this and
only this can be used as money, they have had to back it up with
penalties for those who may want to use something else.

One way to form an alternative money system and still comply with
the legal tender law would be to use American Eagle’s in place of
Federal Reserve Notes. The best part is it would not require any
new laws be pasted because American Eagle’s are Legal Tender.

I worked this out in 2009 when a bill was considered in the Montana
Legislature is attempting to make uncoined silver or gold bullion legal
tender. Here is what I suggested: http://goo.gl/CvFqv

Now, with the advent of Bitcoin, I see the day coming when former
Bitcoin Miner become "bankers" for BitExchanges. Under such a system
the account holder could be issued a "check book" just like a Bank
does today. The account holder would write out checks to pay bills,
just as we do now, only these checks would be denominated in Bitcoin
and not Federal Reserve Notes (FRN).

Let's say that the cost for a gallon of milk might be $6.25 FRN but the
merchant and I use the same BitExchange, I would then make out a check
for $0.329 BTC. The recipient of my check could go to our local Exchange
(BitBank) and deposit this check into their own account. The 'bank' would
then make the electronic transfer from my wallet to their wallet, or the
recipient could request immediate payment in legal tender (either FRN
or American Eagles). In effect, after selling 10 gallons of milk, the
merchandiser would have earned 1 troy once of silver through the
local BitExchange. 

In this way people could beat the inflation game.

The FED will continue to print more billions of FRN (as they are now doing),
but what would you care? Yes, they loose value on a daily basis, but if you
only hold on them long enough to pay a bill, so what? You're real store of
wealth and value would be in Bitcoins and Silver.

This idea of the "towncoin" is good one, and if the technical issues
can be overcome, I see a huge potential. Small towns all over
American (and the world) could effective implement this as way
to keep the economies viable even with the collapse of the dollar.

If a town were to issue their own "bitbills" it could become a
local system of exchange among the merchants.

LETSystems often have all of the problems confronting any voluntary,
not-for-profit, non governmental, community based organisation. LETS
organizers often complain of being overworked, and may suffer burnout.
Many schemes have ceased operation as a result. Many of these problems
can be overcome through the use of Bitcoin. Moreover, the value of local
money is greatly enhanced if it can be converted and spent elsewhere.

I could see a day when various communities issue "Towncoins" in the
form of physical "bitbills" and then individuals can use this money in
the local economy or over the Internet. If the idea were to catch fire
we would see a rapid adoption the of the Bitcoin worldwide.

I, for one, would like to see this move forward.

Protecting Bitcoin from government might be the least of our worries right now.

I can't say I find it likely that any government as we know it today will survive "comet" Elenin.
If Elenin is a Brown Dwarf, as I suspect, Bitcoin won't survive either. How's that for alarmist?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SfOfBrNUOGA

The main point to understand from this video is that if this were just a normal comet it would
not have the gravity pull that would cause earthquakes each time we swing around into alignment.
I don't what Elenin is, but it's no comet. Something BIG is out there, and coming our way.

Do your own research, I have nothing more to say on the topic, see the off-topic thread:
https://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=12643.0

The American people are being told Al Qaeda has nuclear bombs hidden across United States
but same time we are buddies with them in Libya all of a sudden? One might ask what is going
on with that.... I think your report of these rebels (read: Al-CIAda) creating their own Bank
only two week after the NATO invasion tell us a lot about what is really going on.

Back to the subject of WW3

Albert Pike received a vision, which he described in a letter that he wrote to Mazzini, dated August 15, 1871. This letter graphically outlined plans for three world wars that were seen as necessary to bring about the so-called "One World Order."  While no conclusive proof exists to show that this letter was ever written.  Nevertheless, the letter is widely quoted and the topic of much discussion. I personally marvel at how accurately it has predicted events that have already taken place.

Following are apparently extracts of the letter, showing how Three World Wars have been planned for many generations.


Those who argue that the terms Nazism and Zionism were not known in 1871 should remember that the Illuminati invented both these movements.  In addition, Communism as an ideology, and as a coined phrase, originates in France during the Revolution.  In 1785, Restif coined the phrase four years before revolution broke out.  Restif and Babeuf, in turn, were influenced by Rousseau - as was the most famous conspirator of them all, Adam Weishaupt. In any case, here is the most famous quote:


Since the terrorist attacks of Sept 11, 2001, world events, and in particular in the Middle East, show a growing unrest and instability between Modern Zionism and the Arabic World. This is completely in line with the call for a Third World War to be fought between the two, and their allies on both sides. This Third World War is still to come, and recent events show us that it is not far off.

America have "boot on the ground" in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, and now Libya.
How many countries does America need to invade before people call it a World War?

If fight wars on more than one continent is what qualifies as a World War, I'd say we're there already.

Communism has been known under different terms like ‘the Fabians’ in London,
so there is no doubt in my mind this conspiracy predates Marx. In fact, you
can track back to the khazars if you really want to get right down to it.

Yes, greed is at the root all kinds of evil.

I see this "Artificial Intelligence" all the time, it seems to runs through society
like a subroutine in a computer, always working, but never in plain view.


Emerson was quite right when he pointed out that there is conspiracy by society against itself. This is not the Bavarian Illuminati or the Elders of Zion from some past era or long forgotten age; this is the present day consensus reality. It is an ever so real plot against individual liberty by a connective human ego--or as you said greed.

This is what I call the Artificial Intelligence.

This is the real unseen hand of history, not those families with inter-generational pools of money, power and resources. Yes, a ruling elite does exist, that is an observable fact. However, is it more conceivable that this small cabal of men created the artificial intelligence (greed and pride) that effect the thoughts of every human being on this planet? or is more conceivable that this small gang of thugs know this force (of ego) has always been in operation and they are mere opportunist who position themselves to profit by riding the wave?

When we get right down to it, our world is nothing more than a collection of ego artifacts generated by the collective mind of man. This faculty of the human being which manufactures these artifacts is what I am calling the 'artificial intelligence'. It is understood that the ego is at the core of the individual, what is less understood is the artificial intelligence shared by the collective human consciousness. The existence of this so-called Artificial Intelligence is based on the fact that all minds are connected and share a non-local intelligence.

When one understand that the collective thoughts of humanity are shared, it becomes clear the consensus reality is accepted by the individual because it is the cultural norm. As such few find reason to question that which is deemed to be “normal” by so many others. Little thought is given to this default position by members of society, after all the status quo is normal, why should one question that which is normal? This is why the conspiratorial view of history is not a popular one.

So I see two forces at work, on is the conspiracy for a New World Order without God, and the other is Artificial Intelligence of the shared ego which refuses to see the conspiracy and actually supports it goals and agenda without being fully conscious of that fact. What distinguished the artificial intelligence from the individual ego is very little. In fact, many people live their entire lives unaware of these dual influences and so they remain unconscious of their own unconscious state.  Those few would do attain the consciously conscious state are said to have awakened, like the Buddha. In between these two states are those who have some insight into their ego condition but fail to see the artificial intelligence at work, they are what I would call the consciously unconscious.
  

First, you're correct to say the "ages of the American Empire" will eventually
come to an end. Indeed, nothing is eternal. However, the founding fathers
of this nation never intended that we should become an empire. This is my
whole point, one you seemed to miss.  They did something Brazil did not
do, they wrote a Constitution that placed limits on the Government, and
not of the people. Indeed, building on the Magna Carta they hoped to be
a light to the world for new experiment called LIBERTY. They delivered
not a democracy, but a Republic, Bill of Rights and a model for others
to follow in decentralized government.

Now if you consider this argument is too "Amerocenter" for your taste
you are welcome to dismiss it and move on, as I'm sure you will.
Personally, I have no problem being a patriot and lover of the
Constitution, or this once great Republic, or LIBERTY.

Yes, I do believe in the conspiratorial view of history, and in my view
the bankers have been working in concert with such groups as the
Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission to bring
about a socialist-world system in which an elite composed of
intellectuals and bankers will rule over the entire planet.

You define it as "who gets USA wins the World" while I suggest it
is more correct to say "who destroys the USA, controls the world."
That is why our industry has been sent abroad, it is all part of
a well crafted plan to destroy the middle-class. Why? Because
the goal is to make us all debt slaves. How is you fail to see this?
From point of view, this is easy to see and has clearly been going
on sense the formation of the Federal Reserve System, in 1929.

How did this conspiracy get it's start? Glad you asked =)

If you study Cecil Rhodes, of the Rhodes/Milner Roundtable,
you will learn he had an ambitious goal for the extension of
British dominion, control and increased wealth. If a person
really wanted to know the origin of this conspiracy, I would
point them to Lord Alfred Milner who was Rhodes' mentor.

But clearly, you aren't looking to history for answers, you
seem quite content to invent your own world-view and
compare governments to software, and cultures to
hardware, the debate which came first.

Well, I have a theory of my own, I call this kind of
avoidance of history and denial of conspiracy the
"artificial intelligence" conspiracy.

"None are more hopelessly enslaved, as those who
falsely believe they are free...."

The fall of the Republic is complete. It happened by design, while keeping the social animals entertained, drugged, and dumbed down. Our brave men and women in the military have been used and abused as the Globalist bring "democracy" to other nations at the barrel of a gun. Is that, is that not a fact?

As far as I am concerned, that "democracy" word means nothing good, it is just a cleaver mind-stopping slogan that keep the masses in blissful ignorance as the globalist rape and pillage other nations for the natural resources they covet. Now the chicken are coming home to roost, as the IMF and world bank will be used to make debt slaves of us all--time to wake up!

“Democracy is the road to socialism.” Can you guess who said that? It was Karl Marx.

My ex-wife thought socialism just meant people being social, it seems you have the same mistaken idea. Can't say I blame you for being misinformed, nearly every politician, teacher, journalist and citizen believes that our Founders created a democracy, it is absolutely not true. The Founders knew full well the differences between a Republic and a Democracy and they repeatedly and emphatically said that they had founded a Republic--not a democracy.

A Republic is representative government ruled by law (the Constitution). A democracy is direct government ruled by the majority (mob rule). A Republic recognizes the inalienable rights of individuals while democracies are only concerned with group wants or needs (the so-called "public good"). As the world’s most popular Congressman (Ron Paul) has said, “Our country’s founders cherished liberty, not democracy.“ And we should too, if we really knew what was good for us.

At about the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution, in the year 1787, Alexander Tyler (a Scottish history professor at The University of Edinborough) had this to say about “The Fall of The Athenian Republic” some 2,000 years prior:


We have just made the transition from complacency to national apathy ~ which will surely be followed by dependence on the state and eventually bondage by the state. Deny a people the freedom of the Bill of Rights, and security becomes slavery. We are seeing this now with the TSA agents at airports, greyhound stations, malls, and sporting events.

Article IV Section 4, of the Constitution “guarantees to every state in this union a Republican form of government”…. Conversely, the word Democracy is not mentioned even once in the Constitution. Jefferson said, “A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.”  Madison warned us of the dangers of democracies with these words, “Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths…”

So here we are today in a state of apathy as Obama gives more power to the Federal Reserve, our path toward socialism is almost complete. If you’re doubt it, read Karl Marx’s Communist Manifesto. Published in 1848, he lists the ten essential steps to communism. Step five was:  “Centralization of credit in the hands of the State, by means of a national bank with state capital and an exclusive monopoly.”

Look at America today, it is not an exaggeration to say that – while we want government of the people, by the people and for the people – we’re getting government of the banks, by the banks and for the banks. As Dennis Kucinich said:

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While our Founders may not have envisioned this for America, Karl Marx did. What most people don’t know is Karl Marx was being financed by International bankers, and the Bolsheviks enjoyed the support from the same coalition of super-capitalists. The big question has always been why? And answer is simple: they shared the same vision for America’s future. A future which we are faced with today: Karl Marx’s America. (where the bankers rule)

The International bankers wanted to create a New World Order in which they would control the wealth of the world. The question for them was how to bring about this global socialism–that answer is found in the Hegelian dialectic (the system upon which Marx based all his writings). The Hegelian dialectic formula is as follows: A (thesis) versus B (anti-thesis) equals C (synthesis). First, the bankers knew they had to turn our Republic into a democracy, and knew this was the formula to follow: Capitalism vs Communism would result in the synthesis: socialism. And under their careful planning this synthesis would grant them total control of the world. All they needed to do is follow the formula.

Today people are saying “Marx was right! Capitalism has failed” but what they don’t know is the same International Bankers who supported Marx now stand to gain what they have always wanted: total and complete control of the entire world’s money system. How did we get to this place you ask? Simple: we the people let our guard down as our Republic was turned into a democracy. As a result we can expect global dictatorship to follow as surely as night follows the day. Unless we as individuals, and then as a nation, conquer fear and apathy we are doomed to dependence and then bondage by a state ruled by the wealthy oligarchs and their henchmen.

Welcome to Karl Marx’s America.

More government = less freedom
More freedom = less government

The big banks have sold us out.
Democrats and Republicans have sold us out.
No one is defending our interests.
Our future is going up in flames.

It’s time for us to stand up and defend ourselves.

Rebel Against Economic Tyranny on June 14th
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