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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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vertoe
on 05/12/2015, 10:10:25 UTC
well that changed my mind! count me in the pro-garza movement. he must be totally innocent!  Shocked  Roll Eyes
and the courts are totally affected by posts in this thread   Roll Eyes


jeez

I do not care about Garza.  I care about the crimes against humanity that Suchmoon and Paul Revere promote.  If you do to think that is true then read back through the 2000 pages of this thread and read about all the people they have harmed.  I am not talking about Josh or his brother etc,  I am talking about the people that were brought into this fiasco.  A lot of people have been unnecessarily harmed by their filth and with complete disregard for the well being of those peoples families.

Now, to keep this on topic, the integrity of paul revere and suchmoon are important here, they have lied and covered up the lies with more lies to make points.  So what is true and what is not?  I have doubts about a lot of stuff they have spewed on this thread and the validity of it should be questioned
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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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vertoe
on 05/12/2015, 09:56:15 UTC

You keep repeating this as some sort of a fact. Do you have links/quotes/etc or is just one more thing that you will refuse to prove? What exactly was I part of and why is that making you so badly butthurt?

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/josh-garza-address-growing-paycoin-paybase-scam-concerns-tnabc-miami/
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Ok, can you quote the specific part(s) that you have a problem with? I have a feeling that you probably didn't read the article.

are you denying that you were a gaw fanboy?

Yes, I'm denying that. I'm about as far from being a fanboy as one can possibly be.

Then a page or two later -

did I miss anything of importance or just some personal fights?

Is it worth to read the last ~5 pages?

Not really. Here is me being a GAW fanboy:

https://bitcointa.lk/threads/in-stock-gridseed-usb-miners-189-95-plus-free-hosting-and-electricity.283675/page-10

That's pretty much the gist of it. Oh and I'm a bully so give me your lunch money.

One page he is not a Gaw Fan and then 2 pages later when the proof was given he admits he was a Fan Boy... Caught in a lie bro
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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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vertoe
on 05/12/2015, 09:49:20 UTC
You are missing the point here.  There are a lot of people that are tired of their harassment and bullying.  I jumped in when I saw others attacking Suchmoon and Paul Revere today.  I think it was MakeBelieve and Wheellocks.  And I imagine there will be many more jump in when they read his bullshit and lies and see his blatant disregard for other people.

Well, go ahead. But if you want it to stick I suggest to do that in an appropriate section of the forum. Meta, or perhaps Scam Accusations if you think I scammed you. Otherwise your posts will likely be wiped out as off topic and you'll get even more butthurt.

Nice one, OK, the post I am making are in reference to the credibility of suchmoon.  We aim to show that he is not credible and that he has blatantly lied about his involvement the GAW

You mention that your aim is to show that he is not credible... I am now sure this is being done now in the run up to the court case in an attempt to mess with the evidence. Others in this topic need to be aware of this now. If you were actually serious about discrediting suchmoon you would be doing it in a separate topic and provide a link from here so that your topic focuses entirely on suchmoon. I'm not suggesting you are incorrect but you "are" focusing only on the paycoin element when you suggest both he and paul do this for a number of other people and services so your accusation should be its own topic and be on all of his posts not limited to just paycoin.

You are simply trying to muddy the waters for a jury to attempt to give reasonable doubt.

Start a new thread link to it from here if you are serious and continue it in there.

Sorry, Suchmoon and Paul Reveres credibility is an issue on this thread.  Yes, they are asses on other threads.  None of that takes away the simple fact that they post on this thread and I want to raise concerns about their methods of obtaining information, the lies they state and the way they misdirect and misrepresent the facts.  If the courts see this, well sorry.  

I along with others are tired of them and their methods.  I see that others are starting to join the "Movement" that wheellock and I started earlier today.  I hope it continues and we become as strong as the "Anti GAW" crew.  If it happens to cause issues with the court then you can blame the ring leader.

btw- good stuff wheellock and vertoe

Thank you
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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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vertoe
on 05/12/2015, 09:23:12 UTC
Maybe you guys need to think about that, I hope they look into Suchmoon and Companies actions on this thread and take appropriate action.  Josh is already fried, he has no hope of getting off (thank god), but the way suchmoon et al are hellbent on attacking and harassing people is uncalled for and is a crime of humanity.
 
Not to mention the numerous laws broken on this thread, I am certain Josh's lawyer will have a field day with that, I only hope they do not eliminate the evidence that was posted in an illegal way.

I will be happy to show legal precedence that shows that posting stolen emails is illegal and punishable by law.  I read the claims that the emails were obtained because good ol homero left his computer on, but that doesn't negate the fact that the emails were stolen.  If a person leaves their door open, it does not mean you can walk in and steal their shit.

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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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vertoe
on 05/12/2015, 09:14:34 UTC
I'm really confused a quoted single message showing a suggestion equates to 100% fanboyism? I haven't seen suchmoon refer to Garza as GAWd or GAWsome or anything like that. You need to post more stuff that actually shows his fanboyism. On the same thought pattern I could go post something on a random forum once and be a fanboy of that... that's just silly.

Suchmoon is brainwashing people here by exposing what was always true? Honestly your mind is working in really strange ways and this kind of posting language to me has only been seen in both Joshua Garza and Carlos Garza so I am guessing the purchasing of the account was by one of them and that's who you are.

Why have you only posted 1 single extract and not all of it, it seems like threats of holding a bunch of information but only releasing what you actually have.

Also that archive site archives site links... how can it be manipulated? And if you are getting a copy of hashtalk forums how do people know that isn't manipulated, in fact in the days it was well known that Josh Garza deleted and manipulated the content in the forum....

I'm really perplexed as to the angle of this and what you hope to achieve.... is this honestly an attempt to seed this topic with some sort of misdirection as it will be referenced come the court proceedings and you are hoping to reflect the blame in some capacity to suchmoon for your scamming ways? Because you do realise that people don't post just cheery comments on all services right...? and some negative posts aren't what makes a service fail its the person that implements it particularly if its a scam..

I'm almost sure this is an attempt to discredit this forum topic for an impending court case and indeed this account is josh, carlos or someone involved that has a lot to lose.

Others thoughts?

I think you are describing Suchmoons line of thinking.  He is a master of misdirection and deception.   Use your brain and read his post about looking for the post.  It is a sarcastic reply by suchmoon because he knows he has manipulated the very archive he made.
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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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vertoe
on 05/12/2015, 09:09:29 UTC
You are missing the point here.  There are a lot of people that are tired of their harassment and bullying.  I jumped in when I saw others attacking Suchmoon and Paul Revere today.  I think it was MakeBelieve and Wheellocks.  And I imagine there will be many more jump in when they read his bullshit and lies and see his blatant disregard for other people.

Well, go ahead. But if you want it to stick I suggest to do that in an appropriate section of the forum. Meta, or perhaps Scam Accusations if you think I scammed you. Otherwise your posts will likely be wiped out as off topic and you'll get even more butthurt.

Nice one, OK, the post I am making are in reference to the credibility of suchmoon.  We aim to show that he is not credible and that he has blatantly lied about his involvement the GAW
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vertoe
on 05/12/2015, 09:07:27 UTC
Way to turn a funny thread to shit Smiley

Sorry, suchmoon thinks that collateral damage in his destruction of Josh Garza and anyone associated with it is ok.  He brought this on himself along with Paul Revere.

He is now lying about his involvement with GAW and people need to look at his motives.

I will give a little credit to Suchmoon, he often brings up good points and rarely gets on the insult train.  His problem is that he shoves the shit down peoples throats.  Now Paul Revere on the other hand is nothing short of being a Neanderthal.  
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vertoe
on 05/12/2015, 09:04:24 UTC
Actually the more I look at it, Suchmoon looks to be defending GAW in that post.

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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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vertoe
on 05/12/2015, 09:01:21 UTC
So you are saying that it is ok if Suchmoon was associated with Paycoin and he should get a free pass but others should be persecuted for their association with Paycoin.

So now I'm associated with Paycoin too? Any links or quotes?

How's that Hashtalk archive search going?

Sorry, GAW association.  
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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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vertoe
on 05/12/2015, 09:00:44 UTC
So you are saying that it is ok if Suchmoon was associated with Paycoin and he should get a free pass but others should be persecuted for their association with Paycoin.

So now I'm associated with Paycoin too? Any links or quotes?

How's that Hashtalk archive search going?

So far only this one- But I must say it is a great one- Do not worry about us finding more, I have faith that the truth about you will prevail

So this is a quote from Suchmoon:

Yes, I'm denying that. I'm about as far from being a fanboy as one can possibly be.


And this is Suchmoon as a Gaw Fanboy:





Classic -
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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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vertoe
on 05/12/2015, 08:58:23 UTC
You are missing the point here.  There are a lot of people that are tired of their harassment and bullying.  I jumped in when I saw others attacking Suchmoon and Paul Revere today.  I think it was MakeBelieve and Wheellocks.  And I imagine there will be many more jump in when they read his bullshit and lies and see his blatant disregard for other people.

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vertoe
on 05/12/2015, 08:54:25 UTC
Documents have been provided showing Suchmoon as a Gaw Boy.  Yet 1 page back he emphatically denied being a Gaw Boy. Then you say I am delusional (like the evidence is not posted).
So I responded that you are either delusional or brainwashed for not seeing the evidence put down before you.

Even if Suchmoon was a fanboy at some point, so what ? He eventually turned around and fought against the scam once it was obvious Garza had turned to blatant fraud.

Just like I used to be a BFL fanboy.

Even the best of us get scammed once in awhile. It's the voices that turn around and work to expose the scams, and try to prevent others from being harmed is ultimately what is important and valuable to this community.

The majority of altcoins are scams. If suchmoon and paul revere are putting Bitstone under the lense, there is probably a reason for it. They have developed good noses when it comes to sniffing out fraud.


Give up your suchmoon defense.  He has lied repeatedly about his Gaw involvement.  Secondly, a good nose for sniffing something out is not an adequate reason to bombard people with conspiracy theories. 

You are saying it is ok for those guys to bully people because of any reason they deem adequate.  In the case of BitStone, although they say it is not because of a Paycoin involvement, they have brought it up many many times.

So you are saying that it is ok if Suchmoon was associated with Paycoin and he should get a free pass but others should be persecuted for their association with Paycoin.

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vertoe
on 05/12/2015, 08:44:29 UTC
I would hazard a guess you have some sort of vested interest in Bitstones success, and that's why your jimmies are so unbelievably rustled.
Bro, get your head out of your ass.  Your Almighty Leader Suchmoon has failed you.  He is nothing but a lie and a cover up like Garza.

Could you kindly answer the question, instead of evading it ?

Yes, I have zero BitStone.  Not only me but a bunch of people are tired of people like Suchmoon and Paul Revere going around and bullying people on threads.  Making up lies and promoting them. 

We are like Suchmoon and Gaw - no interest in the coin and not a fanboy just tired of watching them fuck people over.  Oh wait, that cannot be true because Suchmoon was vested in GAW
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vertoe
on 05/12/2015, 08:41:21 UTC
Admit it- Suchmoon pulled a fast one on you- essentially he Scammed you into thinking he was never a Gaw Fanboy when in reality he was.
You're delusional.
No, but your blatant disregard for the facts shows that you are either delusional or brainwashed.

What facts am I disregarding, that leads you to deduce that I am either delusional or brainwashed ?

I have no interest in any cryptocurrency other than Bitcoin.

It's the drama that brought me to this thread, and special posters like yourself are one of the reasons I keep coming back.

It's a freaking comedy goldmine.

Documents have been provided showing Suchmoon as a Gaw Boy.  Yet 1 page back he emphatically denied being a Gaw Boy. Then you say I am delusional (like the evidence is not posted).

So I responded that you are either delusional or brainwashed for not seeing the evidence put down before you.
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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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vertoe
on 05/12/2015, 08:37:51 UTC
So I have Schizophrenia, and he is delusional, when did you receive your MD license?
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Or are you jsut so blind-sighted and been here too long too see the shit right in front of your eyes?

Studying and reading about psychology is a hobby to me. Has been for about 15 years now.

I get my eyes checked annually. Prescription is current, and lenses are ritualistically cleaned.

Why are you so upset that people are trolling yet another shitcoin ? Bitstone in this case ?

I would hazard a guess you have some sort of vested interest in Bitstones success, and that's why your jimmies are so unbelievably rustled.

Bro, get your head out of your ass.  Your Almighty Leader Suchmoon has failed you.  He is nothing but a lie and a cover up like Garza.
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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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vertoe
on 05/12/2015, 08:36:34 UTC
Hey wheellocks, I found that GAW thread:

https://bitcointa.lk/threads/in-stock-gridseed-usb-miners-189-95-plus-free-hosting-and-electricity.283675/page-10

Here is the fun part - you agreed with me and said it's a good advice:

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Yes that would probably be the logical choice i agree. This way I wouldn't have to rely on any unannounced or unexpected downtime from a flawed hosting system. good advice.

I don't insist on anything, I just expect people to be upfront with their issues in here if there are any, and not mislead people to think all is good, when if fact it wasn't from what i read which is all I had to go on at the time.

Just trying to protect myself from making a bad choice, that's all. and as the customer, that is my right.

I appreciate it.

It's too bad hashtalk is down or I might have to pull some of your cheer-leading to try to convince people to stay in the game for so long.

hmmmm i wonder where i can get a copy of that forum.......

https://archive.is/http://hashtalk.org/*

Good luck finding my posts there.

Your last comment makes me believe that you have already doctored those archives and your post will not be found.  Another coverup and misdirection by Suchmoon
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vertoe
on 05/12/2015, 08:28:17 UTC
Admit it- Suchmoon pulled a fast one on you- essentially he Scammed you into thinking he was never a Gaw Fanboy when in reality he was.

You're delusional.

No, but your blatant disregard for the facts shows that you are either delusional or brainwashed.
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vertoe
on 05/12/2015, 08:27:00 UTC
Who gives a rat's ass who was a GAW fanboy? Are you witch hunting the other 9,999 people that lost millions? No? Then you're enacting a personal vendetta.

Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black.
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vertoe
on 05/12/2015, 08:26:02 UTC
I think Suchmoons history as a promoter of GAW is very relevant here. 

agreed 100%

it is the basis of his entire lie here on bitcointalk.

Except you're failing to show where I promoted GAW, or acted as a fanboy, or belonged to some imaginary group or something. I've made tons of posts like the one you quoted - offering help and advice to GAW customers, among many things.

Still not quite sure what you're accusing me of so perhaps you should make it clear. I made a lot of posts about GAW and not all of them "SCAM SCAM SCAM"? Is that what you're trying to say?

It's too bad hashtalk is down or I might have to pull some of your cheer-leading to try to convince people to stay in the game for so long.

hmmmm i wonder where i can get a copy of that forum.......

I will pay for that info.
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Re: GAW / Josh Garza discussion Paycoin XPY xpy.io BTCLend LNC. ALWAYS MAKE MONEY :)
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vertoe
on 05/12/2015, 08:25:23 UTC
I think Suchmoons history as a promoter of GAW is very relevant here.  

agreed 100%

it is the basis of his entire lie here on bitcointalk.

Except you're failing to show where I promoted GAW, or acted as a fanboy, or belonged to some imaginary group or something. I've made tons of posts like the one you quoted - offering help and advice to GAW customers, among many things.

Still not quite sure what you're accusing me of so perhaps you should make it clear. I made a lot of posts about GAW and not all of them "SCAM SCAM SCAM"? Is that what you're trying to say?

I would be happy to pull the 100's of posts on this thread where you have "Helped People" with advice followed by insults and blatant disrespect for humanity from you and your "followers"

Yes suchmoon you are a wonderful humanitarian.